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ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
March 16 2011 18:27 GMT
#1541
What happened to SKT? I know PvP is the most random matchup, but someone of Bisu's caliber should be able to win more. Fantasy seems to have dropped a level since last season, and let's not talk about Best.
MiraKul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Malaysia498 Posts
March 16 2011 19:00 GMT
#1542
am sad bout SKT recently..
ovrpwrd
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
March 16 2011 19:20 GMT
#1543
Where is the interview with Chin!? :-(
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
March 16 2011 20:15 GMT
#1544
On March 17 2011 00:07 nozaro33 wrote:
FUCK YES STATS INTERVIEW IS MINE!!!

Not translating Stats's interview because someone already claimed it.

Be patient, KT fans. Be thankful that there are people here willing to sacrifice their free time and translate. You get your interviews pretty fast since KT is a popular team, but think about poor FOX who usually never get their interviews translated. (I'm still sick, so I'm not really up to translating anything right now.)
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
March 16 2011 20:19 GMT
#1545
Starleague champion performance by Stats.
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
March 16 2011 20:29 GMT
#1546
On March 17 2011 05:15 Spica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 00:07 nozaro33 wrote:
FUCK YES STATS INTERVIEW IS MINE!!!

Not translating Stats's interview because someone already claimed it.

Be patient, KT fans. Be thankful that there are people here willing to sacrifice their free time and translate. You get your interviews pretty fast since KT is a popular team, but think about poor FOX who usually never get their interviews translated. (I'm still sick, so I'm not really up to translating anything right now.)


Ofcourse we are, but people just take awesome things in their lives for granted.

MUMMY I LOVE YOU
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
kidleader
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)233 Posts
March 16 2011 20:40 GMT
#1547
Just got home and saw the games. Stats, you total beast. Bisu and Fantasy games were off the chizzane.
Tokyo Seoul London New York \\ SlayerS, KT
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
March 16 2011 20:53 GMT
#1548
On March 17 2011 03:27 ninini wrote:
What happened to SKT? I know PvP is the most random matchup, but someone of Bisu's caliber should be able to win more. Fantasy seems to have dropped a level since last season, and let's not talk about Best.


Maybe that says something about Bisu's caliber
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
March 16 2011 21:25 GMT
#1549
Bisu failed his fangirls again.
SKT sucks.
Uninstall the game Fantasy.
and BeSt, you should change your name to WorSt.
This level of failing is not understandable.

Will not do anything BW related until Bisu wins again.
Khassar de Templari
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
March 16 2011 21:28 GMT
#1550
On March 17 2011 06:25 kamikami wrote:
Bisu failed his fangirls again.
SKT sucks.
Uninstall the game Fantasy.
and BeSt, you should change your name to WorSt.
This level of failing is not understandable.

Will not do anything BW related until Bisu wins again.

Sounds very much like fairweather fandom to me.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
March 16 2011 22:03 GMT
#1551
Third time charm doesn't seem to be working, right coach park?
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
March 16 2011 22:19 GMT
#1552
Best and Sun are a combined 5-17 in WL. Why does SKT keep playing them?
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 22:37:32
March 16 2011 22:33 GMT
#1553
On March 17 2011 03:27 ninini wrote:
What happened to SKT? I know PvP is the most random matchup, but someone of Bisu's caliber should be able to win more. Fantasy seems to have dropped a level since last season, and let's not talk about Best.


er, you sure you got the right game? ZvZ is more random lol

On March 17 2011 05:15 Spica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 00:07 nozaro33 wrote:
FUCK YES STATS INTERVIEW IS MINE!!!

Not translating Stats's interview because someone already claimed it.

Be patient, KT fans. Be thankful that there are people here willing to sacrifice their free time and translate. You get your interviews pretty fast since KT is a popular team, but think about poor FOX who usually never get their interviews translated. (I'm still sick, so I'm not really up to translating anything right now.)


and blah MBC vs STX still not translated... ACE interviews never in Chinese... you Koreans have to step it up when Kor->Chn translators don't )))
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Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
March 16 2011 23:01 GMT
#1554
On March 17 2011 07:19 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Best and Sun are a combined 5-17 in WL. Why does SKT keep playing them?

I'll re-quote what I said to someone else about Sun.

On March 16 2011 18:19 Spica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 18:14 Doraemon wrote:
why do we still send out sun. seriously

I swear, the guy's not that bad. His inexperience in games and shaky decision-making is just what makes him lose, and I find it fine that they're sending him out to gain more experience to get less nervous in games. He's shown some fine skill today and almost won; the game was really close. Can't you see that he has promising potential? I think that he will become an imposing Protoss and may be more crucial to SKT's lineup in the future. Have faith in your team's rookies; they are SKT's future after all.

I am tired of seeing all the flak Sun gets these days... BeSt will definitely bounce back soon since he has years of experience under his belt, while Sun is still developing as a player. SKT keeps on sending out Sun because they obviously have faith in him and he must have some pretty mean games in-house. If only he had won his game, then more people would recognize his skill.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 23:22:53
March 16 2011 23:09 GMT
#1555
Honestly, you're straight dumb if you think your team should stop playing its rookies just because they don't win their first games. Hell, the guy who just all killed your team? Started off his proleague career going 2-9, beating only a Woongjin Terran (Piano) and Jaehoon, who at the time was considered the worst protoss around. Now Stats is a top 3 protoss.

If anything, take a look at Oz. People were harping about how horrible Killer was and how Oz should never play him, but now he's one of the most consistent anchors on his team -- it's in no small part his doing that Oz has been #2 in WL.

There's a million more examples, but almost no rookie starts off their career by putting up great records in proleague. Not every rookie can be Flash.
Remember Violet.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
March 16 2011 23:36 GMT
#1556
On March 17 2011 06:25 kamikami wrote:
Bisu failed his fangirls again.
SKT sucks.
Uninstall the game Fantasy.
and BeSt, you should change your name to WorSt.
This level of failing is not understandable.

Will not do anything BW related until Bisu wins again.

So SKT loses one game and you're already complaining? Come back when they've lost 15 games in a row.
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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 23:45:52
March 16 2011 23:42 GMT
#1557
On March 17 2011 07:33 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 03:27 ninini wrote:
What happened to SKT? I know PvP is the most random matchup, but someone of Bisu's caliber should be able to win more. Fantasy seems to have dropped a level since last season, and let's not talk about Best.


er, you sure you got the right game? ZvZ is more random lol

Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 05:15 Spica wrote:
On March 17 2011 00:07 nozaro33 wrote:
FUCK YES STATS INTERVIEW IS MINE!!!

Not translating Stats's interview because someone already claimed it.

Be patient, KT fans. Be thankful that there are people here willing to sacrifice their free time and translate. You get your interviews pretty fast since KT is a popular team, but think about poor FOX who usually never get their interviews translated. (I'm still sick, so I'm not really up to translating anything right now.)


and blah MBC vs STX still not translated... ACE interviews never in Chinese... you Koreans have to step it up when Kor->Chn translators don't )))

I don't know, I actually agree with him, (on pvp being more random than zvz) There's just so many bo losses in pvp that simply can't be made up for with micro whereas in zvz you can always micro your way out of any disadvantage.
Also longer pvp games have a tendancy of being settled in one big engagement where luck simply does make a difference. Finally comparing zvz and pvp elo peaks its quite clear that people historically have dominated zvz a lot harder than they have pvp (or well there are more zergs who have zvz peaks above 2200 than there are tosses peaking at 2200+ pvp), which might imply less randomness.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 23:45:06
March 16 2011 23:44 GMT
#1558
edit
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
March 17 2011 00:02 GMT
#1559
Fantasy was a good person to send out first. His odds against Flash are not good, but his odds against the rest of KT are decent (he decisively won his last encounter with Stats); SKT sent him in a such a way as to give him a chance to rack up kills without encountering Flash until after he'd won 2 or 3 games. (And if Flash came out sooner, then so much the better for SKT --- they have good protosses who were presumably prepared to try to snipe him.)

Bisu was probably sent to eliminate Stats and pave the way for a Flash snipe. SKT coaching probably figured that Stats is consistent enough to not be worth wasting weaker players on; Bisu has good odds against Stats and slim odds against Flash, while Best has poor odds against Stats and equally slim odds against Flash. It makes sense to send a superior player against a consistent player (yes, I still think Bisu is overall superior to Stats, for now; I'd bet on Bisu in a rematch), ensuring as many chances as possible against Flash. I'm assuming that Coach Park had a lot of confidence in Bisu, and Bisu's late GG timing reflected that he was really being depended on to win the match. Bisu is a great player and has done great in WL so it wasn't unreasonable.

After Bisu was gone, SKT just had to send people that would have a shot at beating Flash. Sun is a promising rookie and Best was their last hope. All of SKT's line-up choices were defensible --- the problem was really quite simple, that SKT's 4 best players all lost. It happens.
May the BeSt man win.
Anxiety
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States650 Posts
March 17 2011 00:05 GMT
#1560
On March 17 2011 09:02 Djabanete wrote:
Fantasy was a good person to send out first. His odds against Flash are not good, but his odds against the rest of KT are decent (he decisively won his last encounter with Stats); SKT sent him in a such a way as to give him a chance to rack up kills without encountering Flash until after he'd won 2 or 3 games. (And if Flash came out sooner, then so much the better for SKT --- they have good protosses who were presumably prepared to try to snipe him.)

Bisu was probably sent to eliminate Stats and pave the way for a Flash snipe. SKT coaching probably figured that Stats is consistent enough to not be worth wasting weaker players on; Bisu has good odds against Stats and slim odds against Flash, while Best has poor odds against Stats and equally slim odds against Flash. It makes sense to send a superior player against a consistent player (yes, I still think Bisu is overall superior to Stats, for now; I'd bet on Bisu in a rematch), ensuring as many chances as possible against Flash. I'm assuming that Coach Park had a lot of confidence in Bisu, and Bisu's late GG timing reflected that he was really being depended on to win the match. Bisu is a great player and has done great in WL so it wasn't unreasonable.

After Bisu was gone, SKT just had to send people that would have a shot at beating Flash. Sun is a promising rookie and Best was their last hope. All of SKT's line-up choices were defensible --- the problem was really quite simple, that SKT's 4 best players all lost. It happens.


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