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when yellow loses to boxer by a rush, his expression is just priceless.
Boxer interview after semis with Yellow - Page 4
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L!MP
Australia2067 Posts
when yellow loses to boxer by a rush, his expression is just priceless. | ||
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WhizKid77
China682 Posts
I don't understand why Yellow didn't go 6pool or 7or 8..? It's yellow's falut. He lost by SAME strat 3 in a row and didn't do anything. maybe now yellow will have to steal themarine's nickname. i haven't seen the vods, but i think even before they played, boxer knew his chances of winning were near 100%, based on yellow's style of play. given that yellow fast expos, boxer knew that, without micro mistakes, he would win for sure, as in 100%. assuming that he trained as much as he did, and that his zerg partners are as competent as yellow, he found it _completely_impossible_ for zerg to stop his build if boxer himself did not make mistakes. thus, all boxer had to rely on was his own concentration. the opponent is irrelevant. i'm not sure how the spawned map positions come into play and if boxer considered these while training, but i assume he did. thus the two key assumptions are: yellow fast expos and boxer micros well. the probability of these two can (arguably) be set at higher than 50% each. furthermore, with these two assumptions in place and actually happening, boxer wins 100%. this is a strong statement - it is saying that if these two assumptions are true during a game, yellow will lose, even if they played an infinite number of games (sorry if "boxer micros well" is not well-defined). the universe is not random (at a macro level), everything happens for a reason. every loss comes with a set of reasons, and yellow had near-zero chance based on his mindset. | ||
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froZen_wYnd
Canada270 Posts
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
On November 12 2004 16:25 WhizKid77 wrote: maybe now yellow will have to steal themarine's nickname. i haven't seen the vods, but i think even before they played, boxer knew his chances of winning were near 100%, based on yellow's style of play. given that yellow fast expos, boxer knew that, without micro mistakes, he would win for sure, as in 100%. assuming that he trained as much as he did, and that his zerg partners are as competent as yellow, he found it _completely_impossible_ for zerg to stop his build if boxer himself did not make mistakes. thus, all boxer had to rely on was his own concentration. the opponent is irrelevant. i'm not sure how the spawned map positions come into play and if boxer considered these while training, but i assume he did. thus the two key assumptions are: yellow fast expos and boxer micros well. the probability of these two can (arguably) be set at higher than 50% each. furthermore, with these two assumptions in place and actually happening, boxer wins 100%. this is a strong statement - it is saying that if these two assumptions are true during a game, yellow will lose, even if they played an infinite number of games (sorry if "boxer micros well" is not well-defined). the universe is not random (at a macro level), everything happens for a reason. every loss comes with a set of reasons, and yellow had near-zero chance based on his mindset. 12-Hatch is a very safe build. There is no reason why Yellow couldn't have fought off the rush while still expanding. He just got outplayed, simple as that. Opponent is never irrelavent. Yellow could've one if he... 9 pooled? NO 4 pooled? NO Played better? YES | ||
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bill
83 Posts
On November 12 2004 17:37 ManaBlue wrote: 12-Hatch is a very safe build. There is no reason why Yellow couldn't have fought off the rush while still expanding. He just got outplayed, simple as that. Opponent is never irrelavent. Yellow could've one if he... 9 pooled? NO 4 pooled? NO Played better? YES Since Yellow was "outplayed" three times in a roll, I see no reason "12-hatch is a very safe build", unless you are much better than yellow, which I seriously doubt. | ||
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Painbringer
Norway446 Posts
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
On November 12 2004 17:54 Painbringer wrote: or boxer much better than yellow Exactly... | ||
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ky[Z]
China1730 Posts
how about......a.. No Rush 15 mins?  | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On November 12 2004 18:00 ky[Z] wrote: i have an idea for boxer vs yellow next time... how about......a.. No Rush 15 mins? Just make them play on Fastest. All problems would be resolved. | ||
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lp
China34 Posts
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bill
83 Posts
Since boxer doesn't play zerg, nobody knows. But yellow is the best zerg player on this planet. If it is not safe for him, then safe for nobody.Period. | ||
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miniStar
Finland143 Posts
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SiS
United States753 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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NeverTheEndlessWiz
Singapore827 Posts
boxer can't screw up (god of micro pls) so therefore the odds are truly against yellow end of story =P | ||
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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
On November 12 2004 16:16 L!MP wrote: when yellow loses to boxer by a rush, his expression is just priceless. what i see is endless hour of practising what i see is he's analyzing the match in the end, what i see is disapointment about zerg's units | ||
uhjoo
Korea (South)1740 Posts
On November 12 2004 18:36 lp wrote: Hm..Looks like boxer wanna be a new bunker rush king boxer has said on a number of occasions that one of his best strategies is bunkering in zvt o_O | ||
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MaTRiX[SiN]
Sweden1282 Posts
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AMDme
84 Posts
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Eye-Lose
United States71 Posts
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