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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 12 2004 01:50 GMT
#41
On November 12 2004 10:16 ahk-gosu wrote:
can someone tell me how the crowd reacted in the third game when he did the same thing
i didnt dl the vod yet
some problem

They cheered.
It wasn't the usual eardrum blowing banshee shriek they usually put up (I guess the only people cheering were the fan girls) though ;(
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Radule
Profile Joined November 2004
Serbia15 Posts
November 12 2004 01:51 GMT
#42
when will yellow dude beat the terran god... i'm still waiting...

and, yeah, it doesn't really matter HOW you win, what matters is that you WIN!
taDa
Profile Joined October 2004
575 Posts
November 12 2004 01:57 GMT
#43
BoxeR was trully giving it his best. Like I said, the last few weeks he has been practicing 18+ hours a day. The fact he went 5-0 versus a zerg, who is known for their uber 9 pools (1 base ling/lurker micro) speaks volumes. He was totally focused and found a BO in which is very hard to stop. It just shows how smart he is. 3-0 O_O. Same BUILD. Same outcome. He DOMINATED YellOw. Damnit YellOw. Eri was right again >.<
GG
ahk-gosu
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)2099 Posts
November 12 2004 02:01 GMT
#44
On November 12 2004 10:51 Radule wrote:
when will yellow dude beat the terran god... i'm still waiting...

and, yeah, it doesn't really matter HOW you win, what matters is that you WIN!



yea the reason that we know yellow as yellow and boxer as boxer is that yellow was always overshadowed by boxer.

its never will boxer beat yellow but its more like will yellow ever beat boxer.

kinda like red sox and yankees even though red sox won this year.
Micro.Macro.Scouting.Harassment.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 02:04:24
November 12 2004 02:03 GMT
#45
(@bizkit)
Hm I think not, unlike most other times when boxer has done something.. This didn't go over too well with the koreans it would seem.

Wax said like the against:for ratio is 9 to 1 pretty much -_-
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
cava
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States1035 Posts
November 12 2004 02:54 GMT
#46
On November 12 2004 09:55 pooper-scooper wrote:
Frankly this strategy was very disapointing to me. I mean this IS an entertainment industry. That is why zz in 2v2's is disallowed, just not fun. BOXER WHY?


its a game before an entertainment industry. boxer was practicing to win not to please. its only an entertainment indutry because its a great game. the day that the game alters just because a sponsor says so is the day i give up on bw
cava!
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
November 12 2004 02:59 GMT
#47
this part was interesting

Q : Your training must be pressuring.
A : We both know each other well so I think it will be a fight of brains. If it was long time ago I would leave the team house and practice other place but now I am the older one so..If both of us practice at the team house I can spy on Oov's strats (He laughs)
troi oi thang map nai!!!
w)Gs(Zero-
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia270 Posts
November 12 2004 03:27 GMT
#48
hehe boxer rox!!!

LogaiN
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden1073 Posts
November 12 2004 04:27 GMT
#49
hmm.. of course you put all effort to win games like this, no matter how fun/boring it is. But as audience I think this was extremely boring, was looking forward to see som nice VODs.

Anyway, its funny how people praise boxer for this strategy (they should), but i'm pretty sure if it was Silent_control who made this everybody would have said "this is the only way he can win or something like that... silent control sucks, he has to do such things etc etc"..
GulleFjuN@Europe
dsh
Profile Joined June 2004
United States879 Posts
November 12 2004 04:51 GMT
#50
On November 12 2004 13:27 LogaiN wrote:
hmm.. of course you put all effort to win games like this, no matter how fun/boring it is. But as audience I think this was extremely boring, was looking forward to see som nice VODs.

Anyway, its funny how people praise boxer for this strategy (they should), but i'm pretty sure if it was Silent_control who made this everybody would have said "this is the only way he can win or something like that... silent control sucks, he has to do such things etc etc"..


cus boxer is boxer
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
November 12 2004 05:55 GMT
#51
Haha thats funny^^

Right now, it feels like boxer never will face a hatchery first strat from any zerg the first 30 coming games in ogn^^ another popular z strat eliminated. next plz
Enter a Uh
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
November 12 2004 05:57 GMT
#52
On November 12 2004 09:49 kCiNNiCk wrote:
TvZ is really bad, way too powerful, well MM is anyways, you only stand a chance if you lurk rush before the tank, or get mass guards with scourge to take out vessel Irradiate but even that is hard .

BM MU .

Oh please dont blame the tvz, just because boxer rox
Enter a Uh
Ponny
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden21 Posts
November 12 2004 06:02 GMT
#53
he sounds so...pro...hes my hero
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 12 2004 06:17 GMT
#54
On November 12 2004 09:49 kCiNNiCk wrote:
TvZ is really bad, way too powerful, well MM is anyways, you only stand a chance if you lurk rush before the tank, or get mass guards with scourge to take out vessel Irradiate but even that is hard .

BM MU .

Wow.

Dumb.

Sorry.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
shizuru
Profile Joined October 2004
Japan570 Posts
November 12 2004 06:22 GMT
#55
i understand everyone is disappointed. many of us, myself included, have waited weeks if not MONTHS for the terran emperor to mount his comeback. and when we're given the perfect opporunity to see his return in a classic yellow bo5, it turns out to be initially less than "classic." we had expected back and forth, see saw battles; games that would push the players to the limit; the use of awesome strategies and diverse unit mixes -- but what we got was a series of three games, short, and the same strategy. We're right to be disappointed after all our months of waiting, salivating.

I had not stayed up to watch the match. I had to shoot a short film today so i needed my sleep. Perhaps if I had stayed up like the rest of you all, I'd be disappointed. But since I didn't, I was privy to the game through live post reports in the forum free of the burden of overexpectation.

While reading the reports, I was completely enthralled. I think that's because I was forced to take a step back. Like any movie where expectations are too high, too often they are not met. What we wanted was a classic. That's what we got: a game of sc chess, condensed, told through a low unit micro battle.

How? Boxer forced yellow to play his type of micro-intense game. Yellow saw Boxer's hand , called it, but did not have the ability to win the battle. But whereas if Boxer failed in his first attack, the game would not be over, they'd both start back at one; but for Yellow's wager, he did not have enough collateral. A loss in his gamble meant a loss of the game. In this way, Boxer played smarter by taking the higher percentage bet. For the same bet with the same hands being repeated by both players -- the results speaks volumes on how risky Yellow played and relatively safe Boxer did.
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
November 12 2004 06:22 GMT
#56
Quatation from yellow:
Although Boxer is an incredibly strategic player, on the other hand I think I've developed a certain immunity to his strategies now. In the end, I think it's a fight of mental force

Immunity? Where did it go?
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shizuru
Profile Joined October 2004
Japan570 Posts
November 12 2004 06:26 GMT
#57
yellow: "in the end, i think it's a fight of mental force."

and it was.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
November 12 2004 06:38 GMT
#58
On November 12 2004 15:22 jtan wrote:
Quatation from yellow:
Show nested quote +
Although Boxer is an incredibly strategic player, on the other hand I think I've developed a certain immunity to his strategies now. In the end, I think it's a fight of mental force

Immunity? Where did it go?


It got owned by Boxer's Immunity to Zerg O_o
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
WhizKid77
Profile Joined November 2003
China682 Posts
November 12 2004 06:54 GMT
#59
On November 12 2004 15:22 shizuru wrote:
How? Boxer forced yellow to play his type of micro-intense game. Yellow saw Boxer's hand , called it, but did not have the ability to win the battle. But whereas if Boxer failed in his first attack, the game would not be over, they'd both start back at one; but for Yellow's wager, he did not have enough collateral. A loss in his gamble meant a loss of the game. In this way, Boxer played smarter by taking the higher percentage bet. For the same bet with the same hands being repeated by both players -- the results speaks volumes on how risky Yellow played and relatively safe Boxer did.


genious analogy. games are all about assessing risk, unless its an open board game that can be systematically solved albeit through enormous amounts of computation, which sc is not.
hay guys u thare???
likeboxer
Profile Joined December 2003
Korea (South)465 Posts
November 12 2004 07:08 GMT
#60
I don't understand why Yellow didn't go 6pool or 7or 8..? It's yellow's falut.
He lost by SAME strat 3 in a row and didn't do anything.
Yellow is known as poor zerg but last night he was rich and lost. huh.
Yellow! Boxer is a timing god vs zerg.
As we see Boxer interview he wanted control fight but... poor yellow.
The strat was just perfect for yellow's strat.
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