Hyuk getting pool before hatchery. It looks like an overpool, but I wasn't paying close attention. Midas sending out an SCV scout, and Hyuk putting down his hatchery at his natural.
Hyuk kills midas' scouting SCV. Midas putting down a CC at his nat, protected by a bunker at his ramp. Hyuk getting his third hatchery up, has 5 zerglings outside Midas' base to see any scouting SCV's.
Hyuk sneaks two lings all the way around the back of Midas's mineral line, only to die at the ramp. Stim is done researching, Midas getting his comsat stations and a 3rd rax. Spire almost done.
Spire completed, Hyuk starts his hydralisk den. Turrets are starting for Midas. Hyuk getting 2 sunken colonies (was 2 creeps were cancelled). Mutas snipe a medic that was too far away from marines.
Hyuk moves in with his mutasks, kill a turret and a lot of marines, cost is 2 mutas. I think I saw an armory from midas. Hyuk taking the top right main.
Hyuk getting hive, midas has 1 valkyrie out. single vulture catches the tail end of a maynard over to hyuk's third base, gets 2 kills. +1 attack is finished from Midas, his second valk is out now.
Dropship out for midas. Midas taking his third base at the min only. He's got a pretty good presence on the map right now. Defiler mound is up, nydus canal is up at hyuk's third and nat.
Drop comes in from midas at hyuk's third, deals only a little damage because of the nydus.
Greater spire(!) from hyuk. Hyuk has a drone hidden at the bottom left expo, presumably to expand there. First defiler is out. Still haven't seen a vessel.
Midas is looking really sloppy. 4 mutas out from hyuk, probably going to become guardians. I saw a hatchery morphing an an expo, think it's top right nat.
Hyuk taking bottom left main, midas sees it with an SCV. Midas loses a bunch of marines because he's a bit slow to retreat from a dark swarm. Midas currently mining from 5 bases and 4 gas, Hyuk currently on 4 bases and 4 gas (fifth of each coming up).
Hyuk attacking bottom right, and attacking midas' position in center. Midas' army in center is weiped out, but hyuk loses 3 lurkers to a mine and doesn't push center right.
I like when Hyuk was losing his 5th, the caster almost exploded thinking it was just 1 scv taking a hatch down into the red, only to catch himself in time to realize it at 2 marines helping it. Still funny =)
Hyuk is preventing midas from taking bottom left, midas seems content to macro off of the bases he has. I never did see what happened to those guardians, maybe the valks got them.
Hyuk attacking center right, swarms and lurkers, but tanks and mines hold it off. First vessel is seen. I think it's a bit later than usual.
Hyuk attacking over near center right again, it seems to be slightly better this time, I think he killed a tank. Hyuk loading up a large drop towards bottom left natural, midas sees it with a vult.
Midas attacking top right min only, wiping it out. Hyuk attacking bottom left natural, droving the SCV's away and lifting the CC, but once the swarms wear off, the lurkers are going to die to tanks. Midas now killing top center base.
Oh hey, there are the guardians we saw 10 minutes ago! Still hovering around the top right side of hyuk's main. Midas pushing into hyuk's nat. Hyuk has clearly forgotten about his guardians.
On March 12 2011 17:31 CDRdude wrote: Massive numbers of tanks are just rolling all over hyuk. Maybe a flying unit of some sort would help. Too late! GG.
Hyuk: I shall suicide for that 3 o'clock base and after 3-4 tries and 3 bases down, I finally took it while there's a push coming down to my natural and I shall leave my guardians to idle about while the push destroys me.
Now to reveal my totally noobiness and ask if there is anything amazing about the toss Flash is gonna be facing or if its just some random guy who made it through.
Both players starting their expansions. Food5 somehow walks a probe right up into flash's main base. Flash pushing food5 with 6rines, a tank and a vulture with mines. Food5 kills all of the marines with his 5 goons, flash backs off.
Food5 has a probe in position to take center right, minimap shows that he's doing it right now. Flash getting an armory, and making a CC to float to the min only.
Food5 minesweeping out in the center of the map. Flash has 6 vultures that scout center right, but it's blocked off with pylons. They do get the probe though. Shuttle for food5 flies over flash's army, goons follow. Food5 kills a few tanks, but has to back off.
5 VULTURES IN FOOD5'S MAIN! I estimate about 15-20 probe kills based on kill counts.
Wow O_O Food5 pushes into Flash's nat a tad too aggressively and loses most of his goons, while Flash COUNTERDROPS AT FOOD5'S MAIN WITH 4 VULTS DOING TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DAMAGE
Each player is on 3 bases, but flash only has 2 gas. Not that it matters much. Food5 is making his first arbiter, but flash has seen the arbiter tribunal with his vultures.
Flash making a CC at his min only, in position to float it to top center. Food5 has a pretty small army in the center of the map right now, hopefully he has more units somewhere, for his sake.
Flash floating newly completed CC over to top center. Dropship comes out for flash. Tanks and missile turrets already up at flash's fourth as it lands. Food5 taking a nexus at bottom left natural.
Arbiter flying up to flash's natural from below, wall of missile turrets makes him turn around. Flash's drop comes into the main, it has 2 vults and a tank inside.
Flash turtled up like crazy at his fourth base, wall of supply depots. Flash drops center left with a tank and a vulture, drops another vulture at bottom left nat. Large vulture raid comes into bottom left nat, gets a bunch of probe kills. Overall, moderately effective, but not devastating.
Vultures attack bottom left natural again, and the probes are chilling away from the minerals. After killing a lof of probes, flash moves remaining vultures into bottom left main for more kills.
SICK EMP on high templar and I think it got the arbiter as well. Armies finally engaging, Flash has a lot of tanks, Stasis going off on some of them, but oh my god so many tanks. Food5 runs away.
3 hts and arb gets emp'd, looks like food's only hts too. Huge battle immediately afterward. Flash had like 12 tanks out of range and still won decisively.
Food5 pushing in at flash's fourth, but that's walled off pretty tightly. EMP goes off on another arbither and a bunch of goons. Flash taking center right, pushing towards food5's base. So. Many. Tanks.
Food5 forces flash to lift his 5th at the center right, but meanwhile flash is destroying food5's nat and 3rd at the same time. Scratch that, the nat is already gone, and flash is working on the main.
Flash also killing food5's bottom left expansions. Food5 seems to have recalled top center, forcing the CC to lift. Food5 trying to push out of his main, and I think he'll be sucessful, but he's already lost his nat, his third, his fourth, and he's losing his fifth.
Flash showed some godly emps in this game. I also gotta say i was really impressed with food5, for playing well with such limited experience. I was pretty much expecting him to proxy or some other cheese, and he decided to try and challenge flash to a macro game, respect.
Flash showed some godly emps in this game. I also gotta say i was really impressed with food5, for playing well with such limited experience. I was pretty much expecting him to proxy or some other cheese, and he decided to try and challenge flash to a macro game, respect.
I hope Food5 will manage to get trough this group as well, next to Flash
He's measuring the distance between his monitor and keyboard etc, so he has the perfect setup. if you've ever been to LANs you'll know if you have your keyboard/monitor etc in different location to where you have it at home it can feel kinda weird. I guess flash always has his equipment the exact same distance apart at the start of every game
On March 12 2011 18:23 Devolved wrote: WTF? He gg's from one red health vult getting in?! How about transferring scvs until u can build more rines. Talk about scared.
Yeah, really. Flash should've sacced a marine to get the vult in with full hp.
On March 12 2011 18:23 pred470r wrote: FLASH CHEESE IS AMAZING TO WATCH, that's all I have to say, gg I'm super excited that Flash got through his group.
learn the SC dictionary, or you will be burned by flash fans for calling this cheese
On March 12 2011 18:23 pred470r wrote: FLASH CHEESE IS AMAZING TO WATCH, that's all I have to say, gg I'm super excited that Flash got through his group.
On March 12 2011 18:23 pred470r wrote: FLASH CHEESE IS AMAZING TO WATCH, that's all I have to say, gg I'm super excited that Flash got through his group.
On March 12 2011 18:23 pred470r wrote: FLASH CHEESE IS AMAZING TO WATCH, that's all I have to say, gg I'm super excited that Flash got through his group.
On March 12 2011 18:23 Devolved wrote: WTF? He gg's from one red health vult getting in?! How about transferring scvs until u can build more rines. Talk about scared.
The SCV building his fact would get taken down so he wouldn't be able to get vultures, and he only had two marines and couldn't take them out of the bunker and he'd need like three marines to take down that vulture. And he's playing Flash.
Forward rax is fairly standard in tvt, if anything 14cc is "cheese" (wouldnt even call it that)
and yeah he could have transferred scvs, but he cant complete his factory and won't have time to make new refinery at his nat then a factory.....hes just way too behind at that point
On March 12 2011 18:23 Graham wrote: Hahahaha. After watching that close game with Food5, it was good to see Flash wreck Midas.
You thought the game against Food5 was close?
If you consider 1 player never winning a single battle, losing over 30 workers throughout the game while killing none, and never able to execute his late game strat (recalls) a close game, then yes, it was close.
On March 12 2011 18:11 Zim23 wrote: Only way Food5 would have stopped that push was if he secretly made 8 carriers somewhere.
No way. Flash doesn't lose to carriers.
He lost in PL a few days ago against Tyson's carriers.
That's not the point. Flash is the #1 terran against carriers.
Not saying Flash would have lost, just saying it was the only chance against that push.
Its not carriers that are the problem, its the map that is involved. Like I said earlier, Carriers won't help you come back from behind on a map like CB, its too open, no ridges to dance around. Carriers on CB aren't that good to begin with, but especially if you're down bases. Had he built carriers on CB he would have lost that much faster. Its bloody ridge that is the problem in TvP. Hope that map is gone next round.
On March 12 2011 18:11 Zim23 wrote: Only way Food5 would have stopped that push was if he secretly made 8 carriers somewhere.
No way. Flash doesn't lose to carriers.
He lost in PL a few days ago against Tyson's carriers.
That's not the point. Flash is the #1 terran against carriers.
Not saying Flash would have lost, just saying it was the only chance against that push.
Its not carriers that are the problem, its the map that is involved. Like I said earlier, Carriers won't help you come back from behind on a map like CB, its too open, no ridges to dance around. Carriers on CB aren't that good to begin with, but especially if you're down bases. Had he built carriers on CB he would have lost that much faster. Its bloody ridge that is the problem in TvP. Hope that map is gone next round.
I dunno, I felt like Flash cut corners and had very low goliath numbers because he didn't think carriers were coming. There were a LOT of tanks in that push. Carriers could have stopped it. But you're right they aren't a good choice on that map and he probably would have lost eventually anyway.
On March 12 2011 18:23 Devolved wrote: WTF? He gg's from one red health vult getting in?! How about transferring scvs until u can build more rines. Talk about scared.
The SCV building his fact would get taken down so he wouldn't be able to get vultures, and he only had two marines and couldn't take them out of the bunker and he'd need like three marines to take down that vulture. And he's playing Flash.
He would only need 2 rines to take down a red vulture while leaving 1 in the bunk. His factory would have been slowed until the next marine came out, but I don't think that's worth giving up over.
Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
Buggy screen capturing software causing instability? Almost as bad as the terrible resolution its still working at after all the years when they show the first person view
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
I guess you haven't seen a certain MSL final.
I don't think this game lasted for 20 min with a clear advantage to a certain player.
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
I guess you haven't seen a certain MSL final.
Do we have to go there again? They called that one, because there was no chance of Flash coming back to win it. Off the top of my head, the only other one I remember them calling was July vs Bisu on Blue Storm, also where the game was also 100% over.
On March 12 2011 18:23 Devolved wrote: WTF? He gg's from one red health vult getting in?! How about transferring scvs until u can build more rines. Talk about scared.
The SCV building his fact would get taken down so he wouldn't be able to get vultures, and he only had two marines and couldn't take them out of the bunker and he'd need like three marines to take down that vulture. And he's playing Flash.
He would only need 2 rines to take down a red vulture while leaving 1 in the bunk. His factory would have been slowed until the next marine came out, but I don't think that's worth giving up over.
You can think of something along the line of Blind 12nex vs 9pool.
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
I just realized I'm still pissed.
OH SHIT.. how did i forget the power outage?! i'm angry now.. D:
On March 12 2011 18:51 henzi wrote: Wouldn't food5 get a good door with forge on left and gate on right leaving a hole in the middle? or vice versa with the buildings?
sounds kind of easier to get a ling runby with that, plus cannon coverage is a bit worse probably, dunno though
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
I just realized I'm still pissed.
OH SHIT.. how did i forget the power outage?! i'm angry now.. D:
Still angry after Flash basically went 9-3 against "him" in Bo5s ? :/
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
I just realized I'm still pissed.
OH SHIT.. how did i forget the power outage?! i'm angry now.. D:
Still angry after Flash basically went 9-3 against "him" in Bo5s ? :/
yess.. that call was ridiculously stupid.. i honestly thought flash had that game. but whatev.. it's done with.
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
I just realized I'm still pissed.
OH SHIT.. how did i forget the power outage?! i'm angry now.. D:
Still angry after Flash basically went 9-3 against "him" in Bo5s ? :/
yess.. that call was ridiculously stupid.. i honestly thought flash had that game. but whatev.. it's done with.
oh come on, Jesus? Wtf there are still ppl who believe in come back with one control group of marines??? vs defs and ultras? So much said about it, but there are still ppl who are still in the darkness of outage. Flash had his revenge later, so let get over it.
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
I just realized I'm still pissed.
OH SHIT.. how did i forget the power outage?! i'm angry now.. D:
Still angry after Flash basically went 9-3 against "him" in Bo5s ? :/
yess.. that call was ridiculously stupid.. i honestly thought flash had that game. but whatev.. it's done with.
oh come on, Jesus? Wtf there are still ppl who believe in come back with one control group of marines??? vs defs and ultras? So much said about it, but there are still ppl who are still in the darkness of outage. Flash had his revenge later, so let get over it.
lol i don't want to argue. i'm completely over it man. but i honestly did think flash was going to win that
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
I just realized I'm still pissed.
OH SHIT.. how did i forget the power outage?! i'm angry now.. D:
Still angry after Flash basically went 9-3 against "him" in Bo5s ? :/
yess.. that call was ridiculously stupid.. i honestly thought flash had that game. but whatev.. it's done with.
oh come on, Jesus? Wtf there are still ppl who believe in come back with one control group of marines??? vs defs and ultras? So much said about it, but there are still ppl who are still in the darkness of outage. Flash had his revenge later, so let get over it.
lol i don't want to argue. i'm completely over it man. but i honestly did think flash was going to win that
at least that series, not that particular game. but after the shitstorm his mind was too empty...
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
I just realized I'm still pissed.
OH SHIT.. how did i forget the power outage?! i'm angry now.. D:
Still angry after Flash basically went 9-3 against "him" in Bo5s ? :/
yess.. that call was ridiculously stupid.. i honestly thought flash had that game. but whatev.. it's done with.
oh come on, Jesus? Wtf there are still ppl who believe in come back with one control group of marines??? vs defs and ultras? So much said about it, but there are still ppl who are still in the darkness of outage. Flash had his revenge later, so let get over it.
lol i don't want to argue. i'm completely over it man. but i honestly did think flash was going to win that
I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
I just realized I'm still pissed.
OH SHIT.. how did i forget the power outage?! i'm angry now.. D:
Still angry after Flash basically went 9-3 against "him" in Bo5s ? :/
yess.. that call was ridiculously stupid.. i honestly thought flash had that game. but whatev.. it's done with.
oh come on, Jesus? Wtf there are still ppl who believe in come back with one control group of marines??? vs defs and ultras? So much said about it, but there are still ppl who are still in the darkness of outage. Flash had his revenge later, so let get over it.
Just want to mention that Flash has another expo at 9 when people think there aren't so he had a chance, but it is what it is, and its over, so yeah....(rewatched some part, 2(?) control groups mnm + vessels vs. 2 irradiated ultras + defiler + some lings + 2 sunkens. Might've been a close game, but I would say JD had a higher chance of winning with the double gas)
I'm just so pissed that MBC "destroyed" an epic game. Seeing that game, even with Flash GGing, would be epic. Not even a chance to gg.
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
I just realized I'm still pissed.
OH SHIT.. how did i forget the power outage?! i'm angry now.. D:
Still angry after Flash basically went 9-3 against "him" in Bo5s ? :/
yess.. that call was ridiculously stupid.. i honestly thought flash had that game. but whatev.. it's done with.
oh come on, Jesus? Wtf there are still ppl who believe in come back with one control group of marines??? vs defs and ultras? So much said about it, but there are still ppl who are still in the darkness of outage. Flash had his revenge later, so let get over it.
lol i don't want to argue. i'm completely over it man. but i honestly did think flash was going to win that
Flash and KT's players also thought so, and yes he deserved a chance to give his best.
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
I just realized I'm still pissed.
OH SHIT.. how did i forget the power outage?! i'm angry now.. D:
Still angry after Flash basically went 9-3 against "him" in Bo5s ? :/
yess.. that call was ridiculously stupid.. i honestly thought flash had that game. but whatev.. it's done with.
oh come on, Jesus? Wtf there are still ppl who believe in come back with one control group of marines??? vs defs and ultras? So much said about it, but there are still ppl who are still in the darkness of outage. Flash had his revenge later, so let get over it.
lol i don't want to argue. i'm completely over it man. but i honestly did think flash was going to win that
Flashbacks to outage, that so many ppl like to do in tl.net are really irritating, its not that funny guys anymore, I wish they never played this game at all - so much trash was poured out.
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
I just realized I'm still pissed.
OH SHIT.. how did i forget the power outage?! i'm angry now.. D:
Still angry after Flash basically went 9-3 against "him" in Bo5s ? :/
yess.. that call was ridiculously stupid.. i honestly thought flash had that game. but whatev.. it's done with.
oh come on, Jesus? Wtf there are still ppl who believe in come back with one control group of marines??? vs defs and ultras? So much said about it, but there are still ppl who are still in the darkness of outage. Flash had his revenge later, so let get over it.
Just want to mention that Flash has another expo at 9 when people think there aren't so he had a chance, but it is what it is, and its over, so yeah....
well it all ifs, if SC match had a 25 min limit, how many victories would be retaken? its like to say, "oh he got knocked down, but sure he would have beaten him in the 3 round", that happened in box many times, but there was no 3 round unfortunately.
On March 12 2011 18:37 pred470r wrote: Not the best debute for a rookie, first you get owned by the #1 player, and then you get dropped from the game, I hope the referees at least do a re-game, and not give him a auto loss.
lol there's no way they would give him a loss. it's not the player's fault. when technical difficulties like this happen, a rematch is always immediately issued
I just realized I'm still pissed.
OH SHIT.. how did i forget the power outage?! i'm angry now.. D:
Still angry after Flash basically went 9-3 against "him" in Bo5s ? :/
yess.. that call was ridiculously stupid.. i honestly thought flash had that game. but whatev.. it's done with.
oh come on, Jesus? Wtf there are still ppl who believe in come back with one control group of marines??? vs defs and ultras? So much said about it, but there are still ppl who are still in the darkness of outage. Flash had his revenge later, so let get over it.
lol i don't want to argue. i'm completely over it man. but i honestly did think flash was going to win that
Flashbacks to outage, that so many ppl like to do in tl.net are really irritating, its not that funny guys anymore, I wish they never played this game at all - so much trash was poured out.
lol i wasn't even thinking about it. i was stating earlier that rematches are always the result of technical difficulties until people kept mentioning "power outage" and that particular msl finals. calm down bro. no one's even talking crap or getting heated over that game anymore
On March 12 2011 19:20 moopie wrote: midas playing bio like a D player. lets see if hyuk will be so kind as to give him time to do a mech transition again.
In fact, hyuk is playing pretty fucking well oO I don't think it will last very long, but midas is in deep shit, and he has only him to blame :/ Edit : without those stop lurkers, Hyuk would have been in a lot of trouble to stop the push
Flash you pissed me off to no end! Now Midas is gone and some noob zerg in. And yeah, Midas' play was unfortunately poor today. Thank you for streaming GTR.
On March 12 2011 19:27 Darth Saros wrote: Flash you pissed me off to no end! Now Midas is gone and some noob zerg in. And yeah, Midas' play was unfortunately poor today. Thank you for streaming GTR.
On March 12 2011 19:27 Darth Saros wrote: Flash you pissed me off to no end! Now Midas is gone and some noob zerg in. And yeah, Midas' play was unfortunately poor today. Thank you for streaming GTR.
On March 12 2011 19:27 Darth Saros wrote: Flash you pissed me off to no end! Now Midas is gone and some noob zerg in. And yeah, Midas' play was unfortunately poor today. Thank you for streaming GTR.
Some noob zerg? Flash got hyuked last osl Ro8....
Huyk won against Flash in group stage. No way Hyuk can beat Flash in a series, let's be honest there..
On March 12 2011 19:27 Darth Saros wrote: Flash you pissed me off to no end! Now Midas is gone and some noob zerg in. And yeah, Midas' play was unfortunately poor today. Thank you for streaming GTR.
noob zerg? you new to BW?
It's a SKT zerg. Nothing more to say there...or maybe he'll most likely Hyuk himself any time soon...so-you new to bw?
So out of 11 TvP in Winner League on this map, the only two terran victories were from Superman, I mean, Flash, in a close game against a tier 17 protoss, and from Hiya against a player who has leukemia.
If you need to be on the verge of dying to lose in PvT on this map, it may means that it's a bit broken in terms of balance.
Why on earth haven't they removed Bloody Ridge already? Doesn't make sense to me.
Hyuk had a lot of awful seasons but he still deserves credit and a hardhat for his effort and input behind the televised games and even during em. No way Hyuk is a noob zerg. He sux in PL but went into semifinals of last MSL. Hyuk is SKT's practice house monster and a huge reason for team's success. How could anyone forget Hyuk's all-kills which won STX Cup?!
So out of 11 TvP in Winner League on this map, the only two terran victories were from Superman, I mean, Flash, in a close game against a tier 17 protoss, and from Hiya against a player who has leukemia.
If you need to be on the verge of dying to lose in PvT on this map, it may means that it's a bit broken in terms of balance.
Why on earth haven't they removed Bloody Ridge already? Doesn't make sense to me.
If this was a zerg whining the poster would have been banned by now. I don't know how these guys get away with it to be honest.
So out of 11 TvP in Winner League on this map, the only two terran victories were from Superman, I mean, Flash, in a close game against a tier 17 protoss, and from Hiya against a player who has leukemia.
If you need to be on the verge of dying to lose in PvT on this map, it may means that it's a bit broken in terms of balance.
Why on earth haven't they removed Bloody Ridge already? Doesn't make sense to me.
If this was a zerg whining the poster would have been banned by now. I don't know how these guys get away with it to be honest.
Oh well, apparently I didn't.
Is it SC2 imbalance whines which have made bannable comments about map balance in BW? Because nobody with common sense would ever claim that BW is unbalanced, and that was certainly not my point. Some maps are bad though, and I don't really think that people who were complaining about Raid Assault 2 being so zerg favoured that we had 30zvz, 2 tvt and 2 pvp in the season it was in the pool, ever got banned.
Anyway.
What Flash said in his interview is that terran has to win on the first push or die on bloody ridge. It seems impossible to really play defensively, which probably makes it really hard for rans in TvP. Haven't played it, so if someone has a clue...
On March 12 2011 19:27 Darth Saros wrote: Flash you pissed me off to no end! Now Midas is gone and some noob zerg in. And yeah, Midas' play was unfortunately poor today. Thank you for streaming GTR.
noob zerg? you new to BW?
It's a SKT zerg. Nothing more to say there...or maybe he'll most likely Hyuk himself any time soon...so-you new to bw?
And that Savior joke was a good one.
IK right some noob Zerg.. Food5 should have made it
So out of 11 TvP in Winner League on this map, the only two terran victories were from Superman, I mean, Flash, in a close game against a tier 17 protoss, and from Hiya against a player who has leukemia.
If you need to be on the verge of dying to lose in PvT on this map, it may means that it's a bit broken in terms of balance.
Why on earth haven't they removed Bloody Ridge already? Doesn't make sense to me.
If this was a zerg whining the poster would have been banned by now. I don't know how these guys get away with it to be honest.
Oh well, apparently I didn't.
Is it SC2 imbalance whines which have made bannable comments about map balance in BW? Because nobody with common sense would ever claim that BW is unbalanced, and that was certainly not my point. Some maps are bad though, and I don't really think that people who were complaining about Raid Assault 2 being so zerg favoured that we had 30zvz, 2 tvt and 2 pvp in the season it was in the pool, ever got banned.
Anyway.
What Flash said in his interview is that terran has to win on the first push or die on bloody ridge. It seems impossible to really play defensively, which probably makes it really hard for rans in TvP. Haven't played it, so if someone has a clue...
Talking about map balance is OK but You were completely exaggerating- look at the stats: PvT: 11-12 (47.8%)
Terran is actually ahead on wins at the moment. I'm not saying it won't turn out to be a Protoss-favored map in the long run but saying it's impossible to win unless the other person's dying or whatever was completely ridiculous and in poor taste.
So out of 11 TvP in Winner League on this map, the only two terran victories were from Superman, I mean, Flash, in a close game against a tier 17 protoss, and from Hiya against a player who has leukemia.
If you need to be on the verge of dying to lose in PvT on this map, it may means that it's a bit broken in terms of balance.
Why on earth haven't they removed Bloody Ridge already? Doesn't make sense to me.
If this was a zerg whining the poster would have been banned by now. I don't know how these guys get away with it to be honest.
Oh well, apparently I didn't.
Is it SC2 imbalance whines which have made bannable comments about map balance in BW? Because nobody with common sense would ever claim that BW is unbalanced, and that was certainly not my point. Some maps are bad though, and I don't really think that people who were complaining about Raid Assault 2 being so zerg favoured that we had 30zvz, 2 tvt and 2 pvp in the season it was in the pool, ever got banned.
Anyway.
What Flash said in his interview is that terran has to win on the first push or die on bloody ridge. It seems impossible to really play defensively, which probably makes it really hard for rans in TvP. Haven't played it, so if someone has a clue...
Talking about map balance is OK but You were completely exaggerating- look at the stats: PvT: 11-12 (47.8%)
Terran is actually ahead on wins at the moment. I'm not saying it won't turn out to be a Protoss-favored map in the long run but saying it's impossible to win unless the other person's dying or whatever was completely ridiculous and in poor taste.
keep in mind that there is more to map balance than just statistics. look at polaris rapsody during last proleague. very few terrans were winning initially vs z but it turned out to be one of the most terran favoured maps once players realised how strong turtling was on that map. but i guess you covered that already in your post. i just think you're relying too much on the statistics when bloody ridge evidently IS protoss favoured.
So out of 11 TvP in Winner League on this map, the only two terran victories were from Superman, I mean, Flash, in a close game against a tier 17 protoss, and from Hiya against a player who has leukemia.
If you need to be on the verge of dying to lose in PvT on this map, it may means that it's a bit broken in terms of balance.
Why on earth haven't they removed Bloody Ridge already? Doesn't make sense to me.
If this was a zerg whining the poster would have been banned by now. I don't know how these guys get away with it to be honest.
Oh well, apparently I didn't.
Is it SC2 imbalance whines which have made bannable comments about map balance in BW? Because nobody with common sense would ever claim that BW is unbalanced, and that was certainly not my point. Some maps are bad though, and I don't really think that people who were complaining about Raid Assault 2 being so zerg favoured that we had 30zvz, 2 tvt and 2 pvp in the season it was in the pool, ever got banned.
Anyway.
What Flash said in his interview is that terran has to win on the first push or die on bloody ridge. It seems impossible to really play defensively, which probably makes it really hard for rans in TvP. Haven't played it, so if someone has a clue...
Talking about map balance is OK but You were completely exaggerating- look at the stats: PvT: 11-12 (47.8%)
Terran is actually ahead on wins at the moment. I'm not saying it won't turn out to be a Protoss-favored map in the long run but saying it's impossible to win unless the other person's dying or whatever was completely ridiculous and in poor taste.
The terran stats (in that 11-12 figure) come almost entirely from the dream league, and mostly before the map was tested thoroughly. Almost every single televised game has been carriers,and so far its proving to be worse than Katrina. Even the two games that T won in WL (Flash vs Snow and Hiya vs Violet) were vs carriers and were extremely close victories at that. Stating that it is 9-2 in SWL is not exaggerating. If anything, I would say it is you who is exaggerating for suggesting the map is even remotely balanced TvP ("terran is actually ahead at the moment"). The comment about Violet was indeed in very poor taste, but the map itself is a terran graveyard vP if the terran can't end it before the carrier count becomes critical.
So out of 11 TvP in Winner League on this map, the only two terran victories were from Superman, I mean, Flash, in a close game against a tier 17 protoss, and from Hiya against a player who has leukemia.
If you need to be on the verge of dying to lose in PvT on this map, it may means that it's a bit broken in terms of balance.
Why on earth haven't they removed Bloody Ridge already? Doesn't make sense to me.
If this was a zerg whining the poster would have been banned by now. I don't know how these guys get away with it to be honest.
Oh well, apparently I didn't.
Is it SC2 imbalance whines which have made bannable comments about map balance in BW? Because nobody with common sense would ever claim that BW is unbalanced, and that was certainly not my point. Some maps are bad though, and I don't really think that people who were complaining about Raid Assault 2 being so zerg favoured that we had 30zvz, 2 tvt and 2 pvp in the season it was in the pool, ever got banned.
Anyway.
What Flash said in his interview is that terran has to win on the first push or die on bloody ridge. It seems impossible to really play defensively, which probably makes it really hard for rans in TvP. Haven't played it, so if someone has a clue...
Talking about map balance is OK but You were completely exaggerating- look at the stats: PvT: 11-12 (47.8%)
Terran is actually ahead on wins at the moment. I'm not saying it won't turn out to be a Protoss-favored map in the long run but saying it's impossible to win unless the other person's dying or whatever was completely ridiculous and in poor taste.
In winner league it's 9-2. TLPD stats include leagues which means little since there are completely other categories of players.
Flash said himself the late game was impossible for TvP.
Anyway. I haven't made humour about poor Violet but about the map. You don't like it that's fine, however I haven't been warned for that but for balance whining.