This was pretty much an instructional video on what you shouldn't do against mech lol. Don't expand past your fourth, let your expos be cleared by vultures and repeatedly suicide your units against the terran army when he has turret support.
On March 08 2011 19:20 r33k wrote: This was pretty much an instructional video on what you shouldn't do against mech lol. Don't expand past your fourth, let your expos be cleared by vultures and repeatedly suicide your units against the terran army when he has turret support.
I think the real lesson here is to never send Chavi.
On March 08 2011 19:58 kuroshiroi wrote: Grape is just macroing Leta to death, pretty awesome.
It's not awesome, this game was so boring. He lost so many probes to vultures and Leta still just sat back and let him expand like mad =x
Hardly any less entertaining than Carriers or whatever else late game PvT strategy Grape could've chosen to go for. I like these kinds of slugfests, that's all.
On March 08 2011 19:58 kuroshiroi wrote: Grape is just macroing Leta to death, pretty awesome.
It's not awesome, this game was so boring. He lost so many probes to vultures and Leta still just sat back and let him expand like mad =x
Hardly any less entertaining than Carriers or whatever else late game PvT strategy Grape could've chosen to go for. I like these kinds of slugfests, that's all.
The slugfests at the end were interesting, I agree, I was actually surprised Grape won after he threw all those units away, and to see him just "brute force" it was kinda entertaining. And yes, if Leta just turtled until he got wrecked by/successfully defended carriers, I would call that a boring game too.
But didn't Leta used to be known as a very creative, dynamic player?
On March 08 2011 19:58 kuroshiroi wrote: Grape is just macroing Leta to death, pretty awesome.
It's not awesome, this game was so boring. He lost so many probes to vultures and Leta still just sat back and let him expand like mad =x
Hardly any less entertaining than Carriers or whatever else late game PvT strategy Grape could've chosen to go for. I like these kinds of slugfests, that's all.
The slugfests at the end were interesting, I agree, I was actually surprised Grape won after he threw all those units away, and to see him just "brute force" it was kinda entertaining. And yes, if Leta just turtled until he got wrecked by/successfully defended carriers, I would call that a boring game too.
But didn't Leta used to be known as a very creative, dynamic player?
Flash broke him, unfortunately. I don't think he's ever coming back. I hope he does but I doubt he will.
Great - rubbish zerg who only turtles every game but the difference is he is waiting to die. Play terran then. Even ZvZ he come out with turtle strategies, lmao.
On March 08 2011 20:55 _Quasar_ wrote: Now samsung has no choice but to send Stork... while there is still Hydra and Snow in hite's lineup...
And horang2, unfortunately, because he's the vP sniper. :\
Yeah Stork would have no other option than to play very safe, since this is so predictable horang could get away with a greedy build, so in the end a a pvp against a pvp sniper at a disadvantage. Khan is in a pickle.
That is why you are supposed to see one Horang2 pvp a day. Because he only comes out to snipe tosses and you don't send tosses against him. Lesson learned the hard way by January.
See, that the problem with the Protoss race. The best pvz, best pvt, and best pvp aren't concentrated in one gamer, like the cases of the other two races. And that's why it's very hard to find a Protoss that truly dominates the competition.
On March 08 2011 21:33 mnesthes wrote: See, that the problem with the Protoss race. The best pvz, best pvt, and best pvp aren't concentrated in one gamer, like the cases of the other two races. And that's why it's very hard to find a Protoss that truly dominates the competition.
The other problem would be that best pvt is currently getting rolled by Flash, and many other terrans pull wins against all the best pvt'ers. And just recently all best pvz's were losing to any zerg(I mean Shine-level).
Since I dont watch it live and hopefully Hite will win and yes, Hite wins :D
I don't expect Horang2 will play today but I'm wrong. 3K from him was amazing especially against Stork. Congrats Hite and thank you Horang2 and Leta :D
why the FUCK would you intentionally send out tosses against Horang2
Not only does he have a 70% record vP, his opponents are almost entirely a mix of high-A to S-class in that matchup. Only Bisu has really gotten the best of him and they've only played approximately twice so it's tough to say if that trend would continue.
I mean, I get that you want to send out your best player, Stork, in a situation like this. However, it is important to note what happens when you do this:
3. Horang2 transforms into Flash for the duration of the matchup.
His stats are that good and his hitlist is that impressive. When you are down to your last player, you obviously want to maximize your chance of the 3kill, but with a team stacked against Protoss players and a little baby Flash in the booth, you just can't rely on that kind of shit to muscle through a match where you are not even remotely favored. I don't care if you aren't ultra-confident in your young players: you send them out and give them a shot.
On March 09 2011 02:49 dukethegold wrote: So Horang2 is officially the new Skyhigh, god tier S-class in one matchup.
Shuttle used to be an amazing PvP sniper...+70% win rate iirc. So in that way, it would be more appropriate to say Horang2 replaced Shuttle.
what are you talking about. is Shuttle in Hite?
I think Ass meant replaced him as the PvP king of the league. Before H&S, it was Bisu, and earlier still, Best (until Stork dealt him a lesson he will never forget).
Looks like Horang2 has faced Shuttle once so far. Check this to see who won.
On March 09 2011 09:28 paffypuck wrote: Actually, Bisu is still on top ELO-wise in PvP. If he could figure out how to beat Kal and Stork, he'd be almost invincible in all three matchups.
And free.
But aside from Bisu's God-streak, it's basically been Horang2 and Shuttle as the top 2 PvPers for the last year or so.
I checked what I thought were the results this morning and was like "Oh cool Leta got an all-kill." But later when I went to check the recommended games, I realized I can't read. TT
At least he managed to beat Chavi. Thats nice I guess.
Yeah can anyone at least link to where the interview is? I would be interested in at least doing a google translate to get a general idea of what is said. Leta getting 1win when the team also won allowing for an interview after a long time, as for Horang2 he is just awesome
Obviously not going to make a thread with just google translate just want a feel for what they say.
8일, 용산 e스포츠 상설경기장에서 펼쳐진 신한은행 위너스리그 10-11 시즌 4라운드 3주차 4경기에서 차봉으로 출전한 이경민(하이트)이 유병준, 차명환에 이어 ‘총사령관’ 송병구(이상 삼성전자)까지 잡아내며 경기를 마무리 지었다.
다음은 이경민과의 일문일답.
- 생애 첫 3킬을 기록한 소감은 ▲ 진심으로 3킬을 할 줄은 몰랐는데, 살다 보니 참 별 일이 다 있다.
- 왜 전혀 예상을 하지 못했나 ▲ 위너스리그 자체가 전 종족전을 잘하고, 기복이 없는 선수여야 잘 할 수 있다고 생각했다. 그런데 나는 기복도 심하고 밸런스 있는 선수가 아니라서 3킬까지는 생각하지 못했다.
- 차봉으로 출전할 예정이었는지 ▲ 감독님께서 (신)상문이 형과 함께 둘이서 삼성전자를 마무리하라고 말씀 하셨었는데, 약속을 지킬 수 있어서 정말 기분이 좋다.
- 엔투스 선수들의 활약이 이어져 스파키즈 선수로서 부담이 됐을 것 같다 ▲ 나도 내색은 안 했지만, 슬쩍슬쩍 들려오는 소리가 의식 돼서 늘 마음에 담아두고 있었다. 오늘을 계기로 팬 분들도 그런 편견을 훌훌 털어줬으면 좋겠다.
- 유독 프로토스전을 잘하는 비결이 있나 ▲ 나도 잘 모르겠다. 그 비결을 아시는 분이 있으면 나에게 따로 연락을 주셨으면 좋겠다.
- 건물을 예쁘게 지어서 그런 것은 아닐까(웃음) ▲ 확실히 건물을 예쁘게 지어야 마음도 편하고, 생산을 하기도 쉽다. 게이트웨이의 위치가 약간만 어긋나도 그 경기를 질 것 같은 마음이 든다. 예전에는 이 정도까지는 아니었는데, 요즘은 더욱 병처럼 신경 쓰게 된다(웃음).
- 송병구전 승리의 요인은 무엇이었을까 ▲ 셔틀에 휘둘릴 때, 감독님이 내 이름이 적힌 종이를 접고 계시는 모습이 상상됐다(웃음). 그런데 감독님의 ‘항상 최선을 다하라’는 말씀을 떠올리며 끝까지 열심히 한 것이 큰 도움이 됐다.
- 질럿-아칸 조합의 환상 비율이 돋보였는데 ▲ 손 가는 대로 뽑은 건데, 생각보다 예쁜 조합이 완성 돼있더라. 솔직히 이길 줄은 몰랐다.
- 오늘은 저그전 경기력도 좋은 편이었다 ▲ 차명환님과의 경기에서는 그냥 왠지 프로브로 드론 1기를 잡았을 때부터 ‘오늘은 나의 날이구나’ 싶었다. 그 이후로 모든 것이 잘 풀렸다.
- 유병준과의 대결에서는 내내 공격을 주고받은 끝에 이겼다 ▲ (유)병준이의 앞마당에서 리버 컨트롤을 했는데, 며칠 전에 (장)윤철이와 김구현 선수의 플레이를 보고 따라 하려다가 리버를 잃어서 더 망해버렸다. 사람은 원래 하던걸 해야 되는구나 싶었다(웃음).
- 이제는 3킬 이상도 할 수 있는 자신감이 생겼는지 ▲ 자신감은 항상 있지만, 현실적으로 말할 뿐이다. 오늘 해보니까 나도 조금만 더 성장하면 확실히 좋은 선수가 될 수 있을 것 같았다.
- 마지막으로 더 하고 싶은 말이 있다면 ▲ 전혀 믿음직스러운 부분이 없는데도 삼성전자를 나와 상문이 형의 손에 맡겨주신 감독님께 감사하다. 또 이기고 나왔을 때마다 팀원들이 항상 반갑게 맞이해줘서 고맙다. 다같이 열심히 해서 1위까지 올라갔으면 좋겠다.
8th, it opened from the Youngsan e sports expatiatory stadiums and above position shoes Korean Bank line the otoscope which goes to battle with the car seal from your [su] league 10-11 season 4 round 3 parking 4 condition this [yu] bottle which it pushes (high [thu]) it gave, it was a car life exchange and until `commander-in-chief' [song] sick bodies (above Samsung Electronics) it picked and condition finishing it fell.
The next pushed the otoscope with question and answer.
- The life first 3 [khil] the impression which it records lives and * with sincerity 3 [khil] percentages will decrease it does not know but the truth star day, it sees all there is.
- It did not forecast why entirely and * up your [su] league one elf before did well the before the race, it thought that about the player who does not have an undulation Oh! there is a possibility of doing well. I undulation am serious by the way and the player who is balance knows from, 3 [khil] it gets peeled off it does not think.
- It probably is a plan which will go to battle with the car seal * supervision (shoes) the upper door with the elder brother as under finishing spoke Samsung Electronicss west two together, there is a possibility of defending a promise from the true feeling is good.
- To participating of the [thwu] [su] players is joined together and as the [su] green onion height [cu] player it appears * it is born but to be becoming the charge and the expression was audible it did not do, but by stealth by stealth and the sound which comes was conscious and to put in the mind which will be increased it was letting. When today also the pan minutes [hwul] [hwul] to shake off like that prejudice will be good with opportunity.
- Only the constipation which does well the before the pro toss is born is * but it will not know well. When the minute when it knows the constipation is will give a liaison to me separately and.
- The building it will come to be pretty and will not be like that thing (laugh) * positively the building to come to be pretty and also the mind is convenient, production also the description below is easy. The location of the gateway crosses each other only some but the condition the same mind the qualitative thing holds. To former times it was not by this degree, but the now became more like the bottle the nerve bitterly, (laugh).
The vip of victory the before the [song] sick body will be what and when * the [hwi] being surrounded in the shuttle, the supervision folded the paper where the inside name is recorded and the features imagined (laugh). `Of supervision finish the best by the way always' to pop up a speech, until end became the help whose one thing is big eagerly.
- Quality [les] - Oh the fantastic ratio of unit union looks better but * the hand the thin broad way the case place where it takes out, the union which is prettier thought than to be completed, [iss] compared to. It will win frankly and it will decrease it did not know.
- It will be a side where also that former times condition power is good today * from condition of car life exchange and the [tu] [lon] 1 it will raise as it is without knowing why with probe and when catching from, `today wanted my day acts but'. All things came loose well with the after.
- The [yu] bottle it gave with from confrontation it won in the end which exchanges the attack the inside inside and * ([yu]) the bottle [pe] control from the different meaning front yard which it gives [li], but (market) the wheel season and report did to follow the play of the Kim embodiment player before several days, to lose a polyvalence [li] [pe] compared to it perished and it threw away. The person does and original the sun which it will hang it becomes but it wanted (laugh).
- Recently the confidence which is the possibility as much as 3 [khil] above doing should have gotten, * the confidence only is not, actually only will always talk is. It tries it is born today but when the bay compared to it grew a little, it appeared to be being the possibility becoming the positively good player.
- If there is an end which compared to it wants doing last and * the place where an entirely faith [cik] there is not be part Samsung Electronics it comes out and to the supervision the upper door to entrust in the hand of the elder brother it thanks. Also winning, when coming out every, the team members give [mac] gain and loss always and gladly. Until printed style of writing 1 place it will ascend all and together eagerly.
Lol nevermind. I realize the online translators are bad, but this... May have been because I had to use a different online translator because viewing the site through google translate the actual interview wasn't there.
I found Leta's interview somehow, but can't find it again. I know it's there somewhere but for some reason can only find the Horang2 one. When it had both Leta and Horang2 there was even a photo of them together.
This is a bump because I am behind with watching Broodwar. I have only just watched this series (I watch all games in order). After 2 incredible PvPs and a flawless PvZ I would really love to read the winners interview.
I think it's a bit much to ask a translator to translate something so old. This series wasn't very important either just a regular set of matches, just enjoy the games and if you really want the interviews you can read the "translated" ones I did lol.
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