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Amnesia
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![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/5DCm0.png) 2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Winners League Round 4 Week 2 Hwaseung OZ vs WeMade FOX Set 1: « Empire of the Sun » Set 2: « Circuit Breaker » Set 3: « Fortress » Set 4: « Aztec » Set 5: « Benzene » Set 6: « La Mancha » Set 7: « Icarus » ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/BvBd3.gif)  HiyA « Empire of the Sun » BaBy+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/gNecG.gif) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/noBC0.gif) + Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/FBz6O.gif) http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Kiante http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Sayle Say thanks to streamers! | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/no0tE.jpg) :/ | ||
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On February 27 2011 13:05 moopie wrote: :/ Oh wow Jaedong, pae pae seung pae  | ||
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Kavas
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
Hiya scouts the right way. | ||
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Kavas
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Baby pressures with SCV and 2 marines. Both loses 1 marine. Hiya with 1 Fact, baby with 2. Starport done for Hiya. 3 Fact for Baby. More Edits: Hiya with Dropship drops 2 SCV at island. Drops tanks at Baby's main but is cleaned up. Baby tries to break through Hiya's tank line but is repelled. | ||
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moopie
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Hiya taking 6. | ||
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Kavas
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Scaramanga
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#teamliquidbw Come join and let the awesomeness ensue | ||
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okum
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Too bad. I was hoping for either Baby or Jaedong to AK. | ||
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emperorchampion
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YOU CAN DO EEETT!!!! :D | ||
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Kavas
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Fenrax
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Kavas
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Baby countering at 5 o'clock | ||
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emperorchampion
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OZ FIGHTING!! | ||
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ohN
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OZ so got this.  | ||
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TimeOut
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emperorchampion
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Well played, OZ got this! :D | ||
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Amnesia
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DarkMatter_
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I hope WMF sends a zerg next. | ||
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
On February 27 2011 13:35 Scaramanga wrote: I don't understand why baby never took his island, hiya did have the dropship advantage but surely a few turrets would have made it virtually undroppable His Barracks got destroyed which delayed everything. Also his engineering bay keeps getting destroyed and that first drop at the main hurt a lot. | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
If Mind loses, I really hope they don't send Midas next. If Hiya loses, I really hope they don't send Lomo next. I wanna see some TvZ. | ||
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blahman3344
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sending a marine over to pressure mind, but midn pulls scvs to defend...this may be bad for mind after some intense battle, mind manages to get a bunker with a marine in it. Hiya fails to run his first vulture by and almost loses it. Hiya attempts a runby with 2 vulturs and a few marines, but it's virtually unsuccessful | ||
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Arite
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Arite
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emperorchampion
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Kiante
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On February 27 2011 13:22 Scaramanga wrote: Watching proleauge and tired of talking in the small stream chat box's? Tired of trying to discuss the games on #teamliquid and having to talk through 1300 people? #teamliquidbw Come join and let the awesomeness ensue or you could connect to c.ustream.tv and come to channel #kiantetl and do away with silly chat boxes without having to log on quakenet  | ||
Elyvilon
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
edit: Well to be more exact, that's also what happens when you build a starport on the edge that gets scouted and volleyed by siege tanks and attempt to drop a turreted natural, losing your only dropship in the process while doing no damage. *sigh* Mind =\ | ||
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Arite
United States218 Posts
Guess not, as mind ggs. | ||
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emperorchampion
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c3rberUs
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Amnesia
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On February 27 2011 13:54 Arite wrote: Is getting a valk for two or three wraiths while being pushed with a bunch of tanks and vultures really that good an idea? Guess not, as mind ggs. Well, to be honest if Mind the optimal units for the situation, equaling the cost of the valk, it still wouldn't have done him much good. The discrepancy in army size was just too huge at that point. | ||
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Arite
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hacklebeast
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Kavas
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
When was the last time Pure played? Hiya's TvP was looking pretty good in the game against MBC so I think he should be able to take this game. EDIT: It's also worth noting that Hiya is the only Terran besides Flash that beat Bisu this season. He also won a game against Stork in the OSL Ro8. | ||
Harem
United States11390 Posts
On February 27 2011 14:04 Kavas wrote: I just thought of something. Did Hiya start winning as soon as he changed his name to Constantly? Maybe as a personal motivation ?It's been Constantly for ages. (Read: during his slump) | ||
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tomatriedes
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
HiyA Fighting!!~ | ||
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
On February 27 2011 14:07 emperorchampion wrote: I really like how deep the Hwaseung line up has been through Winner's League. HiyA, Lomo, Perfectman and of course Jaedong all stepping up to bat has been really nice. Love to see something other than the OZ result once in a while HiyA Fighting!!~ Where's Killer?? | ||
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HitoriTomoyo
Canada264 Posts
On February 27 2011 14:04 DarkMatter_ wrote: Hiya vs. Pure When was the last time Pure played? Hiya's TvP was looking pretty good in the game against MBC so I think he should be able to take this game. EDIT: It's also worth noting that Hiya is the only Terran besides Flash that beat Bisu this season. He also won a game against Stork in the OSL Ro8. I thought HiyA's strongest match-up was TvP? I feel so bad for FOX. They made it to the play-offs last year and now look at them: all-killed left right and center. What happened? | ||
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moopie
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darklordjac
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emperorchampion
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On February 27 2011 14:08 HitoriTomoyo wrote: I thought HiyA's strongest match-up was TvP? Unless it's against Stork xD | ||
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Nikon
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On February 27 2011 14:03 hacklebeast wrote: shoulda sent roro, cuz pure gona get stomped Hiya's TvZ is every bit as good as his TvP so... Really, Fox has already blown this series. They have almost no chance now. TvT is Hiya's weakpoint, yet Fox has already thrown their top 2 TvT players at him and crumbled. At this point they just need to do whatever they can to knock Hiya out so it doesn't turn into an All-Kill. But methinks it will. Hiya is really damn good. | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
edit: Just as I post this, I see Hiya executing a sick vulture/tank push vs Pure. Yeah that was over pretty quick. I think I sense a Hiya all-kill incoming. | ||
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Arite
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Mortality
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
Hiya All-kills incoming (again)? | ||
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Ryusei-R1
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Hiya doing so good suddenly. Fucking awesome | ||
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Grobyc
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ohN
United States1075 Posts
3-kills so far. HiyA AK imo. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
where are all the wemade fans did they all disappear | ||
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Amnesia
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c3rberUs
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Amnesia
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Poll: Recommend Game 3? Yes (10) If you have time (4) No (1) 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Game 3? | ||
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darklordjac
Canada2231 Posts
Spoiler about other game + Show Spoiler + two all kills about to go down or what? | ||
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moopie
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DarkMatter_
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Beautiful play from Hiya. | ||
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Hier
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OZ's starting to look stronger. Just as JD starting to look like he is slipping. | ||
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shucklesors
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Arite
United States218 Posts
(Watch him Reverse All-Kill and prove me wrong) | ||
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
On February 27 2011 14:16 Arite wrote: Baby's great when he's on, but he really doesn't seem like he is right now. (Watch him Reverse All-Kill and prove me wrong) Baby already lost in the first game? | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On February 27 2011 14:16 Arite wrote: Baby's great when he's on, but he really doesn't seem like he is right now. (Watch him Reverse All-Kill and prove me wrong) How would Baby reverse AK when he already lost? o_O | ||
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moopie
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blahman3344
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*Hopes for a Roro Reverse-AK* | ||
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Arite
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darklordjac
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Hier
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DarkMatter_
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I hope I'm proven wrong and that we see a more standard game. | ||
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chongu
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emperorchampion
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OZ FIGHTING! :D | ||
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TwoToneTerran
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On February 27 2011 14:32 Hier wrote: Wait, how did that overlord die? Wraiths were out of range. Did RorO accidentally kill his own overlord? ? Wraiths were in range. You could even see the missiles fire. | ||
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zerodahero
United States358 Posts
skimps on turrets, doesnt defend his main mins | ||
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yanmaodao
United States430 Posts
The sleeper ZvT sniper. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
gg aigh, that's it. hoping for an OZ win when I wake up | ||
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wozjflwnl
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Arite
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salito
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mrflakes
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telamascope
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Spekulatius
Germany2413 Posts
Hiya got no turrets and about 5 minutes being late to the party reinforcing mutas harass into Hiya gg'ing | ||
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zerodahero
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moopie
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Kanil
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That's okay though, we've still got this! Good job. | ||
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trexbqs
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Roro, good job. | ||
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Amnesia
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Poll: Recommend Game 4? Yes (5) No (5) If you have time (2) 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Game 4? | ||
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Hier
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On February 27 2011 14:34 TwoToneTerran wrote: ? Wraiths were in range. You could even see the missiles fire. Well there were two OLs, he fired two volleys at the first, and moved away from hydras. The 1st OL retreated to where the hydras were, while the wraiths began attacking the 2nd OL. And then the 1st died. He had a heart attack, or something. | ||
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Harem
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On February 27 2011 14:34 zerodahero wrote: god damn it hiya skimps on turrets, doesnt defend his main mins He was too worried about hydra allin. (hence the early fac, tanks and siege mode) His build wasn't geared to fighting a muta switch at all (no range/stim and low amount of rax mean a few more turrets earlier aren't going to stop a muta allin esp in those positions) which is weird because his wraiths saw the spire make. :/ | ||
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darklordjac
Canada2231 Posts
2 ak's denied | ||
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Arite
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Fighter
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Can anyone explain this? | ||
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Spekulatius
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On February 27 2011 14:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Should have sent one lesser player (Lomo, PM) to have a shot rather than simply skipping to Jaedong. I hope JD loses just so Killer can win lol I'd love to see Killer, but JD can use a bit of confidence. Feeling that he "won the match for his team" might give a boost instead of the recent "OZ wins even without JD". | ||
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Soap
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GO GO OZ | ||
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salito
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On February 27 2011 14:47 Fighter wrote: Wait, on his stream Sayle just mentioned something about the observer being BM, I think? Because he allied Jaedong then switched and allied Roro? Can anyone explain this? Maybe he wants JD to be red. | ||
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yanmaodao
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MountainDewJunkie
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On February 27 2011 14:49 Spekulatius wrote: I'd love to see Killer, but JD can use a bit of confidence. Feeling that he "won the match for his team" might give a boost instead of the recent "OZ wins even without JD". But Killer/HiyaOz is sooo much more entertaining than JaedongOZ. It's almost uplifting to watch! But I totally agree with the notion that Jaedong needs some confidence. | ||
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Arite
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Amnesia
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Craton
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On February 27 2011 14:52 Nikon wrote: Oh shit, Jaedong smiling, this is the end. Reminded me of the zvz on outsider where he went 9p speed vs 12 hatch. | ||
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moopie
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HeajA.jpg) gg | ||
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telamascope
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pinkranger15
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nosliw
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TimeOut
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Elroi
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
At this rate Oz might just make the playoffs. | ||
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Ryusei-R1
United States2106 Posts
Jaedong smiles mid-game. almost as good as the jangbi camera shot. | ||
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ohN
United States1075 Posts
And jaedong smiled.. awwwwwwwwwwwwwww | ||
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Craton
United States17235 Posts
On February 27 2011 14:47 Fighter wrote: Wait, on his stream Sayle just mentioned something about the observer being BM, I think? Because he allied Jaedong then switched and allied Roro? Can anyone explain this? Sayle is just being ignorant, then. There's nothing BM about it. They often will keep the colors the same by team between games, among other reasons. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On February 27 2011 14:53 Craton wrote: Reminded me of the zvz on outsider where he went 9p speed vs 12 hatch. Oh yeah, I remember that. Now to hunt it down and rewatch it | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On February 27 2011 14:55 Craton wrote: Sayle is just being ignorant, then. There's nothing BM about it. They often will keep the colors the same by team between games, among other reasons. He was just kidding around. | ||
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On February 27 2011 14:50 Nikon wrote: Man, this game seems oddly familiar for some reason, but I can't put my ginger on it. ![[image loading]](http://i45.tinypic.com/29oih52.jpg) (Jaedong vs Hogil) | ||
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mnesthes
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+ Show Spoiler + Both KT and Oz go 4-1 today | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
upon seeing him 9pool vs hogil's 12hatch iirc | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
When was the last time Jaedong even lost to a WeMade player? He's been constantly raping Midas, Roro and Pure. Baby beat JD all the way back in the Hana Daetoo MSL Ro32 but I have no idea when he last dropped a game against WeMade in proleague. | ||
Spica
United States5582 Posts
I'm starting to get worried about FOX though. One would think they would do better in Winners' League, but... o__O; | ||
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On February 27 2011 15:01 DarkMatter_ wrote: Jaedong is now 8-1 against Roro with his only loss being in his very first game against Roro. When was the last time Jaedong even lost to a WeMade player? He's been constantly raping Midas, Roro and Pure. Baby beat JD all the way back in the Hana Daetoo MSL Ro32 but I have no idea when he last dropped a game against WeMade in proleague. In PL? http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/10277_Jaedong_vs_RorO His last actual loss to a wemade player was http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/36451_BaBy_vs_Jaedong | ||
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n.DieJokes
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baoluvboa
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I only follow bw to watch JD so I don't really know the requirement in Starleague except that OZ was really behind. | ||
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mnesthes
5433 Posts
On February 27 2011 18:22 baoluvboa wrote: As far as I am concerned, Oz can still make the playoffs, provided Killer and Hiya can pull off performance during the regular season similar to their performance during WL.Where are the chances of OZ making playoff btw? I only follow bw to watch JD so I don't really know the requirement in Starleague except that OZ was really behind. | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
hope their WL form makes up their atrocious R1 and R2 | ||
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Musou
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On February 27 2011 18:35 baoluvboa wrote: Oh so the past matches arent part of the regular season for the Starleagues? With current standings, Oz is currently in 7th place for PL overall. In previous seasons, top 6 out of 12 teams went to playoffs. I believe since there are only 10 teams now, top 5 teams will make playoffs. They're only 2 wins behind fifth place and 1 behind 6th, so as long as they continue to perform well after WL is over, they should have a good chance of making the playoffs. However, if you're talking about the WL playoffs (which happens to be based only on WL and not all PL matches), then Oz is pretty much a lock for that. They're currently second only to KT (and it is unlikely they will catch up, since KT is currently undefeated in WL), so they're basically guaranteed a spot in the WL playoffs. | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
I think Oz will overtake MBC by the end of Winner's League. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On February 28 2011 01:11 DarkMatter_ wrote: I think Oz will overtake MBC by the end of Winner's League. Of course...we have PerfectMan :D | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On February 28 2011 01:01 Musou wrote: However, if you're talking about the WL playoffs (which happens to be based only on WL and not all PL matches), then Oz is pretty much a lock for that. They're currently second only to KT (and it is unlikely they will catch up, since KT is currently undefeated in WL), so they're basically guaranteed a spot in the WL playoffs. I'm pretty sure there won't be SWL playoffs like last year. Just SWL finals with the top 2 teams. As for SPL playoffs, I'm assuming that it will still be top 6, even with only 10 total. | ||
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FakePlasticLove
United States357 Posts
On February 28 2011 05:34 moopie wrote: I'm pretty sure there won't be SWL playoffs like last year. Just SWL finals with the top 2 teams. As for SPL playoffs, I'm assuming that it will still be top 6, even with only 10 total. 6/9? (not counting Ace). That's pretty ridiculous. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
A single full bunker wouldn't have saved him though. =P | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On February 28 2011 01:01 Musou wrote: With current standings, Oz is currently in 7th place for PL overall. In previous seasons, top 6 out of 12 teams went to playoffs. I believe since there are only 10 teams now, top 5 teams will make playoffs. They're only 2 wins behind fifth place and 1 behind 6th, so as long as they continue to perform well after WL is over, they should have a good chance of making the playoffs. Nope, IIRC still 6. | ||
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