• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:27
CET 20:27
KST 04:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.173Evil Geniuses - shutting down17ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League88
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Evil Geniuses - shutting down How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
2026 KungFu Cup Announcement RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
SCHNAIL now supports Remastered Starcraft player cRuZa Passed away. BW General Discussion [BW] Looking for Clan Thread! [ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [$1250] International ShieldBattery League KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4 [BSL23] RO24 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7621 users

2011 MSL Season1 Preliminaries - Page 35

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 38 Next All
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
March 03 2011 10:31 GMT
#681
On March 03 2011 19:25 Kiante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 19:22 hellbound wrote:
On March 03 2011 19:14 Kiante wrote:
On March 03 2011 19:11 hellbound wrote:
Tanks don't shoot into air regardless of upgrades and it takes a split second for 30+ mutas to take out a bunch of them. 90% Of bogus' resources was mines and tanks and the rest were turrets and gols who do half damage to mutas, so yeah it would definitely have been a massacre, not of mutas though. Oh well Hoejja won, maybe he was consciously taking the piss there, with suck a huge macro advantage he could afford to.

do you have any replays/vods of a muta tech switch beating a late game (whole map taken and moderately split) mech army?


You need a vod as proof that tanks don't have AA? Yes I do. "mech army" is quite an ambiguous term. Answer me this : if you see 20tanks 20 mines in front 8 turrets 6 gollies and 2 vessels would attack this head on with ground or choose to overrun the puny AA with pure muta and continue to rape the tanks? The map was not split either.

You're missing out that bogus had vessels, he had alot of turrets. And he had alot of facs that could pump out golis. it takes a little bit of time to just make 30 mutalisks appear. You must watch BW and see a protoss 12 nex and go "why doesn't the terran just marine rush". So, do you have any proof? or are you just theorycrafting.


Because all zerg units are made by the same building therefore it's tech switches are a lot more sudden and powerful? It takes no time for 30 mutas to appear from 10 hatcheries. As for the gollies that is just fine because the same applies just switching back to ground just like that and having lost the bulk of the tank army roll over. I guess I'll go digging for the replay I am thinking about....
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6184 Posts
March 03 2011 10:33 GMT
#682
wow 13 protosses
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
March 03 2011 10:35 GMT
#683
On March 03 2011 19:24 nayumi wrote:
wow T1 are doing surprisingly good this MSL qualifier

i mean apart from (T)yeOngJae, all the others made it right?

Kwanro also didn't make it.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Hellwitch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 10:43:31
March 03 2011 10:41 GMT
#684
Wow, did (T)BaBy really lose 0-2 to Dear!? Now that was pretty unexpected.
“I think the MVP title for today goes to Airman Firebathero because he is the one who grabbed the enemy commander and threw himself into the river.” - PianO
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1982 Posts
March 03 2011 10:41 GMT
#685
On March 03 2011 19:31 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 19:25 Kiante wrote:
On March 03 2011 19:22 hellbound wrote:
On March 03 2011 19:14 Kiante wrote:
On March 03 2011 19:11 hellbound wrote:
Tanks don't shoot into air regardless of upgrades and it takes a split second for 30+ mutas to take out a bunch of them. 90% Of bogus' resources was mines and tanks and the rest were turrets and gols who do half damage to mutas, so yeah it would definitely have been a massacre, not of mutas though. Oh well Hoejja won, maybe he was consciously taking the piss there, with suck a huge macro advantage he could afford to.

do you have any replays/vods of a muta tech switch beating a late game (whole map taken and moderately split) mech army?


You need a vod as proof that tanks don't have AA? Yes I do. "mech army" is quite an ambiguous term. Answer me this : if you see 20tanks 20 mines in front 8 turrets 6 gollies and 2 vessels would attack this head on with ground or choose to overrun the puny AA with pure muta and continue to rape the tanks? The map was not split either.

You're missing out that bogus had vessels, he had alot of turrets. And he had alot of facs that could pump out golis. it takes a little bit of time to just make 30 mutalisks appear. You must watch BW and see a protoss 12 nex and go "why doesn't the terran just marine rush". So, do you have any proof? or are you just theorycrafting.


Because all zerg units are made by the same building therefore it's tech switches are a lot more sudden and powerful? It takes no time for 30 mutas to appear from 10 hatcheries. As for the gollies that is just fine because the same applies just switching back to ground just like that and having lost the bulk of the tank army roll over. I guess I'll go digging for the replay I am thinking about....


What, 0,0 upg mutas with the 3k gas you've got saved up?
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
March 03 2011 10:45 GMT
#686
There was a lot more than 3k in the ultra carcases in the minefields...
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
March 03 2011 10:47 GMT
#687
FBH FIGHTING!!!!!

FINALLY. It was time that his good play gets rewarded. His 12 game losing streak is the biggest fluke ever, he should be 7-5 or something. He just plays so well and then loses randomly. This had to stop.

But what happened to Bogus? How is that possible? Losing to Hoejja? How disappointing.
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 10:53:38
March 03 2011 10:51 GMT
#688
On March 03 2011 19:12 Spica wrote:
Wooo, it seems that the MSL wants to Protoss it up this time~ :DDD
Just so more of them can be sent back to Aiur during the MST.
On March 03 2011 19:47 Fenrax wrote:
FBH FIGHTING!!!!!

FINALLY. It was time that his good play gets rewarded. His 12 game losing streak is the biggest fluke ever, he should be 7-5 or something. He just plays so well and then loses randomly. This had to stop.

But what happened to Bogus? How is that possible? Losing to Hoejja? How disappointing.
Losing to KANG MIN is never disappointing, it's an honor in itself.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
March 03 2011 10:54 GMT
#689
Say Go Kang Min!

=( I miss Ra so much.
HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
March 03 2011 10:59 GMT
#690
On March 03 2011 19:30 ninini wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
A lot of Protoss's made it to the next round:

Protoss (13)
(P)By.Sun
(P)Trap
(P)Paralyze
(P)Horang2
(P)Food5
(P)Grape
(P)JangBi
(P)M18M
(P)Shuttle
(P)Pure
(P)BeSt
(P)Tyson
(P)Dear

Terran (7)
(T)Canata
(T)Reality
(T)firebathero
(T)RuBy
(T)Mind
(T)Sharp
(T)HiyA

Zerg (6)
(Z)ggaemo
(Z)n.Die_soO
(Z)hero
(Z)HoeJJa
(Z)HyuN
(Z)Hyuk


Some of the notable eliminated players are:
(P)Brave, (P)Movie, (P)Pusan, (T)TurN, (T)Bogus, (T)BaBy, (Z)Modesty and (Z)Kwanro


I'm offended that (P)Reach didn't make your notable player list!
AdministratorNot actually Hawaiian.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
March 03 2011 11:06 GMT
#691
On March 03 2011 19:59 HawaiianPig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 19:30 ninini wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
A lot of Protoss's made it to the next round:

Protoss (13)
(P)By.Sun
(P)Trap
(P)Paralyze
(P)Horang2
(P)Food5
(P)Grape
(P)JangBi
(P)M18M
(P)Shuttle
(P)Pure
(P)BeSt
(P)Tyson
(P)Dear

Terran (7)
(T)Canata
(T)Reality
(T)firebathero
(T)RuBy
(T)Mind
(T)Sharp
(T)HiyA

Zerg (6)
(Z)ggaemo
(Z)n.Die_soO
(Z)hero
(Z)HoeJJa
(Z)HyuN
(Z)Hyuk


Some of the notable eliminated players are:
(P)Brave, (P)Movie, (P)Pusan, (T)TurN, (T)Bogus, (T)BaBy, (Z)Modesty and (Z)Kwanro


I'm offended that (P)Reach didn't make your notable player list!

And Yellow please !
So sad
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 11:08:31
March 03 2011 11:08 GMT
#692
On March 03 2011 19:51 mnesthes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 19:12 Spica wrote:
Wooo, it seems that the MSL wants to Protoss it up this time~ :DDD
Just so more of them can be sent back to Aiur during the MST.

It's okay man, I'll enjoy watching Hydra kick ass again after preliminaries are done.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
March 03 2011 11:23 GMT
#693
Let's hope for more terran killer maps!
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
March 03 2011 11:47 GMT
#694
On March 03 2011 19:59 HawaiianPig wrote:

I'm offended that (P)Reach didn't make your notable player list!

But Reach and Yellow weren't expected to win their groups, and neither of them have seen much action this season. Sure, Kwanro and Pusan haven't played much either, but it wasn't long ago they were both staple players.
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 11:56:35
March 03 2011 11:55 GMT
#695
wow. a lot of SKT and KHAN players qualified. GO BEST!

wait a minute. i thought canata joined ACE?
yoyo!
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
March 03 2011 13:40 GMT
#696
Woo, 5 ACE players advancing.

And finally BeSt, shape up this time around man!
1000 at least.
yoonyoon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1065 Posts
March 03 2011 13:42 GMT
#697
Whoa o_O what happened to my thread?


Did anyone else laugh after seeing Baby being knocked out by a Oztoss?
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 14:07:06
March 03 2011 14:04 GMT
#698
On March 03 2011 19:11 hellbound wrote:
Tanks don't shoot into air regardless of upgrades and it takes a split second for 30+ mutas to take out a bunch of them. 90% Of bogus' resources was mines and tanks and the rest were turrets and gols who do half damage to mutas, so yeah it would definitely have been a massacre, not of mutas though. Oh well Hoejja won, maybe he was consciously taking the piss there, with suck a huge macro advantage he could afford to.
Terrans gonna know somethings up if you dont build any units for 40 seconds and save up 3000+ gas. Not to mention goli upgs scale incredibly well(+4 upg on missiles) despite damage type mismatch. And 0/0 mutas do 5 damage to a 3 armor terran tank/goli, which means even a few golis can hold their own against a muta fleet until a fac wave of additional gols comes Meaning 0/0 mutas kill tanks 5 times slower than say, 3 att upg goons. Mutas are already very fragile, low dmg units, and with upg disadvantage they are really pretty bad
Aah thats the stuff..
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
March 03 2011 14:18 GMT
#699
On February 26 2011 23:25 Ikonn wrote:
TurN and Baby should both be able to survive this


Wow look at how wrong I was
hubson
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden93 Posts
March 03 2011 14:21 GMT
#700
Fuck yeah SKT1!!
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 38 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 33m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 1584
mouzHeroMarine 490
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 954
BeSt 411
Leta 216
Dewaltoss 124
Sexy 36
Trap 28
ProTech19
Dota 2
Gorgc15419
qojqva1913
420jenkins256
BananaSlamJamma135
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss970
edward1
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu393
Trikslyr75
Other Games
Grubby2647
B2W.Neo680
Beastyqt602
FrodaN571
ToD230
C9.Mang029
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 49
• Hupsaiya 29
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 10
• FirePhoenix9
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2470
• WagamamaTV566
League of Legends
• Nemesis2441
• Jankos2245
• TFBlade936
Other Games
• imaqtpie719
• Shiphtur486
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 33m
KCM Race Survival
14h 33m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
15h 33m
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
OSC
1d 2h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 16h
GSL
1d 16h
Epic.LAN
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Epic.LAN
2 days
[ Show More ]
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
Yamato Cup
3 days
Map Test Tournament
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-27
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.