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On February 15 2011 19:34 Sadistx wrote:
Just shows how afraid people are to take Flash straight on. They have to either flip a coin and abuse the fact that 12 nex on 4 player maps can get you a ridiculous advantage if scouted last, or just flat out abuse protoss building mechanics and double gas steal into proxy 4 gate allin.
I wonder how good Stork would be if he played terran. My guess is he'd barely make A-team if at all.
Man, after all those terrible anti Flash post, you find only that ?
This thread is getting as retarted as a SC2 LR thread.
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On February 15 2011 19:35 alypse wrote:
Aw now Flash has a losing record against Stork.
Just 1 game. 1 weird game.
Don't need to be an OSL champ, to have winning records over the top 1, 2 Kespa, heh?))))
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On February 15 2011 19:34 Sadistx wrote:
Just shows how afraid people are to take Flash straight on. They have to either flip a coin and abuse the fact that 12 nex on 4 player maps can get you a ridiculous advantage if scouted last, or just flat out abuse protoss building mechanics and double gas steal into proxy 4 gate allin.
I wonder how good Stork would be if he played terran. My guess is he'd barely make A-team if at all.
I dunno about Terran but a couple years back Stork used to beat Free while off-racing as zerg. Anyway, off topic.
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On February 15 2011 19:36 ]343[ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 19:34 Sadistx wrote:
Just shows how afraid people are to take Flash straight on. They have to either flip a coin and abuse the fact that 12 nex on 4 player maps can get you a ridiculous advantage if scouted last, or just flat out abuse protoss building mechanics and double gas steal into proxy 4 gate allin.
I wonder how good Stork would be if he played terran. My guess is he'd barely make A-team if at all. whoa whoa i wouldn't push it that far LOL it's true that most players are scared shitless of flash though though i doubt stork is... this was probably planned, especially since in WL, it's hard to prepare multiple games, so you just have to go standard
When playing against KT, I'm pretty sure they just have everyone prepare abusive strategies for Flash and assume someone will kill the rest of his team so they have multiple chances to snipe him.
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On February 15 2011 19:34 Sadistx wrote:
Just shows how afraid people are to take Flash straight on. They have to either flip a coin and abuse the fact that 12 nex on 4 player maps can get you a ridiculous advantage if scouted last, or just flat out abuse protoss building mechanics and double gas steal into proxy 4 gate allin.
I wonder how good Stork would be if he played terran. My guess is he'd barely make A-team if at all.
That is really harsh. Stork's game sense and macro is top class, and his build was really smart too. He knew flash would respond to that with raxcc, and his follow up was the perfect counter. Wins from using all-ins are as legit as any other wins.
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I don't think we should analyze this that much : it was most likely a snipe that was repeated before to counter Flash on that precise map. Hell, January may have sent Jangbi before just to put Flash in the good mental state and prepare the field for Stork.
That was good preparation that's all there is to it.
I'm not a frustrated Flash fan, but i'm a big Stork and Khan fan. This was a great game, but that won't revolutionize or change anything.
Now go get them Stork 
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... and he loses every game against them that matters. God I hate Stork.
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On February 15 2011 19:34 gen.Sun wrote:
Stork number one next pr
Cheese is not enough, especially when it is someone who can possibly take flash head-on.
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On February 15 2011 19:37 Xstatic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 19:34 Sadistx wrote:
Just shows how afraid people are to take Flash straight on. They have to either flip a coin and abuse the fact that 12 nex on 4 player maps can get you a ridiculous advantage if scouted last, or just flat out abuse protoss building mechanics and double gas steal into proxy 4 gate allin.
I wonder how good Stork would be if he played terran. My guess is he'd barely make A-team if at all. Trolls gonna troll. Flash just got outplayed, he scanned the nat and didn't see an expo, should've sent out a SCV scout immediately or thrown up another bunker. He was confused after the double gas steal and got beaten straight up, same way he beat Jangbi.
lol tell me how u do that when theres 2 goons outside ur base
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Bwahahahaha. I just started chanting "SONG BYUNG GU! SONG BYUNG GU! SONG BYUNG GU!" in real life.
Goddamn that was some sweet PvT. Is this really the guy that lost the OSL against Fantasy? Goddamn Fantasy is nothing compared to Stork unless:
a) it is a best-of-x series that he has weeks and weeks to prepare for
b) he leaves his booth so that his coaches can tell him exactly what to do inbetween matchups
c) Stork is going through the aftermath of a breakup with a longterm girlfriend
For just random Proleague matchups, Stork is demonstrating that he is unparalleled except for Bisu. Speaking of which, even though Bisu's PL record is better overall, Stork just happens to be Bisu's kryptonite  <3 SBG
As long as Stork stays in form (a tall order, but whatever) I'm confident about WL for Samsung this year and their prospects for Gwanganri. GO KHAN
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On February 15 2011 19:37 Xstatic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 19:34 Sadistx wrote:
Just shows how afraid people are to take Flash straight on. They have to either flip a coin and abuse the fact that 12 nex on 4 player maps can get you a ridiculous advantage if scouted last, or just flat out abuse protoss building mechanics and double gas steal into proxy 4 gate allin.
I wonder how good Stork would be if he played terran. My guess is he'd barely make A-team if at all. Trolls gonna troll. Flash just got outplayed, he scanned the nat and didn't see an expo, should've sent out a SCV scout immediately or thrown up another bunker. He was confused after the double gas steal and got beaten straight up, same way he beat Jangbi.
i don't think flash got outplayed there at all, i think it was a combination of bad luck with scouting and greedy play on flash's behalf
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If I don't scout it, I'm most likely dead. If I scout it, you're fcuked. So how is this proxy build not allin?
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SHIT SHIT SHIT MISSED STORK BEAT FLASH GGAAAAHHHH oh well ill just watch the vods
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wow @@
Weird that he's the one who got the least golds/titles haha
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Everyone apparently forgot how often stork cheeses
2 base reaver carrier was called cheese once, and stork happily abused this.
he beat jaedong on a map i cant remember but that was cheesy as fuck too, thats just how stork does it
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On February 15 2011 19:33 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 19:32 ]343[ wrote:On February 15 2011 19:31 Djagulingu wrote:On February 15 2011 19:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:On February 15 2011 19:29 Djagulingu wrote:On February 15 2011 19:26 JSH wrote:
You know as much as I like Stork
getting cheesed out like that by proxy 4 gate really dissapoints... What was the thing Flash did to JangBi then? You should be grateful to Stork because he removed the most boring progamer of all time from the match. How can you even possibly say this with a straight face. By watching Flash's bunker rush revolutionary TvP strategy. that is boring how? are you just going to let protoss get away with 12nex LOL Of course not. But, at the same manner, Stork wouldn't let flash get away with blind 1 rax cc in every single TvP. Right?
Um, no one who responded to you said what Stork did was boring or wrong. I just think you're very, very ignorant to call Flash the most boring player in the scene. He's easily been the most revolutionary player since Savior, not to mention the most aggressive player who still plays long macro games. He does everything you can imagine, I don't think you can call him boring unless you think every aspect of terran as a race is boring.
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Stork: rax cc after double gassuuuu? BITE ME
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On February 15 2011 19:39 Iplaythings wrote:
Everyone apparently forgot how often sotkr cheeses
2 base reaver carrier was called cheese once, and stork happily abused this.
he beat jaedong on a map i cant remember but that was cheesy as fuck too, thats just how stork does it
yeah his proxy 3 gates in JD's nat lol... i'll admit i was a little pissed off inside when that happened
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On February 15 2011 19:34 Fumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 19:33 Djagulingu wrote:On February 15 2011 19:32 ]343[ wrote:On February 15 2011 19:31 Djagulingu wrote:On February 15 2011 19:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:On February 15 2011 19:29 Djagulingu wrote:On February 15 2011 19:26 JSH wrote:
You know as much as I like Stork
getting cheesed out like that by proxy 4 gate really dissapoints... What was the thing Flash did to JangBi then? You should be grateful to Stork because he removed the most boring progamer of all time from the match. How can you even possibly say this with a straight face. By watching Flash's bunker rush revolutionary TvP strategy. that is boring how? are you just going to let protoss get away with 12nex LOL Of course not. But, at the same manner, Stork wouldn't let flash get away with blind 1 rax cc in every single TvP. Right? What does that have to do with what you said?
What I'm saying is, orgasmic Flash fanboys going into a nerdrage after his only TvP build getting countered by an all-in is not a viable reaction. Flash is boring imo and i think i share this opinion with a lot of people out there. This thread was like this:
Flash bunker rushes JangBi's 12 nex -> Completely viable strategy that is definitely not boring.
Stork 4gates Flash's 1 rax CC -> Stupid cheese allin and the only way Stork can beat Flash.
Reality -> Both are definitely good counters against aforementioned greedy strategies. I bet both players practiced against these strategies for a looooong time.
Also, the fact that some people can't think some things from both sides makes me laugh and rage at the same time.
Also, what goes around comes around.
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What I find so annoying about that game is that he whips it out against Flash in WL instead of doing it vs Fantasy in OSL. 
Super sweet cheese though. Double gas steal into proxy gates. That's fucking hard to deal with.
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