EPTHe notices that Jaehoon is going for fast DTs -> Fast Arb, meaning a delayed robo, so no way Jaehoon would've scouted the marines in time, absolutely no chance for hoon to stop it even if he didn't get the 3rd base
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
He notices that Jaehoon is going for fast DTs -> Fast Arb, meaning a delayed robo, so no way Jaehoon would've scouted the marines in time, absolutely no chance for hoon to stop it even if he didn't get the 3rd base | ||
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
Nice play from Flash. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2403 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:37 Malinor wrote: Build templar archives for 2 DTs, they accomplish nothing... yeah I'll just build a stargate and an arbiter and don't use the buildings I have just constructed. Citadell wasted, DTs wasted, Templar archives wasted. And of course I go douple expand when I don't have any scout on the terran. This is so fucking bad, So unbelievable bad play. You don't need a deep six to break that, any normal attack would do. Just in case, I am not a Flahs hater, I just can't believe what Jaehoon just played. If you have been watching recent games, turrets at the front have not come that early in a lot of recent 1rax CC games. + Show Spoiler [OSL] + See for example Fantasy's Stork-crushing builds that relied on a wraith or goliaths to deal with reavers instead of turrets. DTs that quick would have a great shot about that, I don't think scan would be done on time. I also think Jaehoon thought his success with the early zealots put Flash off more than it actually did. | ||
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okum
France5779 Posts
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fallingdream
Romania452 Posts
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Musou
1375 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:46 Turbovolver wrote: If you have been watching recent games, turrets at the front have not come that early in a lot of recent 1rax CC games. + Show Spoiler [OSL] + See for example Fantasy's Stork-crushing builds that relied on a wraith or goliaths to deal with reavers instead of turrets. DTs that quick would have a great shot about that, I don't think scan would be done on time. I also think Jaehoon thought his success with the early zealots put Flash off more than it actually did. He didn't actually have that much success with the early zealots either. He killed 2 SCVs and a marine, and spent the rest of the time running around in a circle and slowly getting whittled down. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4740 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:46 Turbovolver wrote: If you have been watching recent games, turrets at the front have not come that early in a lot of recent 1rax CC games. + Show Spoiler [OSL] + See for example Fantasy's Stork-crushing builds that relied on a wraith or goliaths to deal with reavers instead of turrets. DTs that quick would have a great shot about that, I don't think scan would be done on time. I also think Jaehoon thought his success with the early zealots put Flash off more than it actually did. I don't mind the DT's, it's always ok to try something like that. I just hated the transition out of it. Flash has like 101 different timing pushes against toss. Jaehoon's followup was just no units and don't use the tech I have already. It was just a total gamble, if flash makes any units and doesn't tech/expand, he wins. But yeah, a player like Jaehoon could only beat Flash by gambling anyways, so I shouldn't be surprised. I just think if MBC sends him out on the 7th map they may have something better to offer than this. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
 Reminds me of his all-star game vs Bisu. XD | ||
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Tianx
United States1196 Posts
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Caos2
United States1728 Posts
I don't believe there's anyone who can take him out in a Bo5 other than Fantasy. | ||
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Musou
1375 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:58 Caos2 wrote: Flash is recovering his form. I don't believe there's anyone who can take him out in a Bo5 other than Fantasy. I think Stork would actually have a good shot, as long as it isn't a Starleague finals. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 31 2011 22:01 Musou wrote: I think Stork would actually have a good shot, as long as it isn't a Starleague finals. I don't think it matter if it's in a final or not, Stork has now shown plenty of times that he has a horrible mindset regarding Bo5s in general whereas that is one of Flash's strong points.  | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:58 Caos2 wrote: Flash is recovering his form. I don't believe there's anyone who can take him out in a Bo5 other than Fantasy. Or Jaedong, his ZvT is good enough. | ||
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
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mnesthes
5433 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 31 2011 22:06 mnesthes wrote: I guess the arguments about Flash being a boring player probably stem from the fact that whenever he doesn't turtle, the opponent usually dies immediately after the first attack, leaving no chance for resistance/retribution. Which makes his opponent boring. | ||
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radialis
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hns
Germany609 Posts
On January 31 2011 21:37 Malinor wrote: Build templar archives for 2 DTs, they accomplish nothing... yeah I'll just build a stargate and an arbiter and don't use the buildings I have just constructed. Citadell wasted, DTs wasted, Templar archives wasted. And of course I go douple expand when I don't have any scout on the terran. This is so fucking bad, So unbelievable bad play. You don't need a deep six to break that, any normal attack would do. Just in case, I am not a Flahs hater, I just can't believe what Jaehoon just played. Doesn't an Arbiter Tribunal require having Templar Archives? | ||
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Musou
1375 Posts
On January 31 2011 22:07 radialis wrote: i don't understand why everyone hates flash... i thought that was a pretty good show from him There are always people who hate those at the top. In Flash's case, a lot of it comes from his reputation first as a cheeser, and then as a turtler. He's been mixing it up quite a bit though, so those reasons are pretty much invalid these days. On January 31 2011 22:13 hns wrote: Doesn't an Arbiter Tribunal require having Templar Archives? Yes, it does. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4740 Posts
On January 31 2011 22:13 hns wrote: Doesn't an Arbiter Tribunal require having Templar Archives? It does. My point was that it should have been used for storms before arbiter or the citadel for building a bulk of speed-zealots. And before someone explains to me how 2base arbiters work, I realldy don't need to. I am still completely underwhelmed how you go 2base arbiters without observers, no speed zlots, no scouting information, no templars and already building your 3rd and 4th nexus somewhere on the map while you have like 8-10 goons and 2 DTs. And all of this on Fortress in close positions. | ||
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