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RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2060 Posts
January 16 2011 07:18 GMT
#681
I mean .....let's face facts here, every team needs it's superstars to win their games... alot of times Flash/Jd/Bisu/Stork winning is critical to the team winning, ESPECIALLY in winners league. If stork hadn't played here jaehoon might have aked or khan would have lost 4-1 4-2 etc
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
January 16 2011 07:21 GMT
#682
On January 16 2011 16:13 zenMaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 16:10 b0lt wrote:
On January 16 2011 16:05 Ecrilon wrote:
On January 16 2011 16:02 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 16 2011 15:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Except SKT actually has depth. KT and Oz are notorious for needing to rely on Flash and Jaedong.

Lol. Says the person who is a fan of the team whose only team wins came from bisu this round.

Seriously? Because Bisu came out second. JD, Flash, and Stork all came out last, because the rest of their team had already lost.


Yeah, well, a lot of good that depth did SKT:

(P)BeSt « Empire of the Sun » (P)Stats
(T)Fantasy « Circuit Breaker » (P)Stats
(T)Fantasy « Fortress » (Z)Action
(T)Fantasy « Aztec » (P)Tempest
(T)Fantasy « Benzene » (T)Flash
(T)Ssak « La Mancha » (T)Flash
(P)Bisu « Icarus » (T)Flash

If losing to Flash = no depth, then no team has depth.


One thing that's kind of weird is how teams aren't able to "snipe" top players. Usually it's often in WL that you see a top player lose a game after a win, because he got "sniped". T1 and Hite both had 3 cracks at Flash and failed. Stork has 3-kills and 4-kills in two series. Jaedong's only loss was against Stork. Bisu AKed twice. Even TBLS don't have infinite preparation time for all MUs on all maps. Surely you can win at least once, right?
Meh
powerdawg96
Profile Joined November 2010
United States129 Posts
January 16 2011 07:21 GMT
#683
been watching a lot of GSL games lately, and these BW games are still fun to watch.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 07:25:02
January 16 2011 07:24 GMT
#684
So Light is on my team (didn't lose today) Stork is my captain (reverse all-kill) and Samsung is my team for FPL, but today I lost in LB because I picked both MBC and Woongjin to win.

*sigh*

Forever between 50th-100th in both FPL and LB t.t
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
January 16 2011 07:24 GMT
#685
On January 16 2011 16:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 16:13 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 16 2011 16:09 Ecrilon wrote:
"Except SKT actually has depth. KT and Oz are notorious for needing to rely on Flash and Jaedong."

"Lol. Says the person who is a fan of the team whose only team wins came from bisu this round."

Then you should be less ambiguous about which part of the statement you are criticizing, especially when the statement you are "lol"ing at is specifically focused on "SKT actually has depth."

Okay. Sorry for being so ambiguous. I was loling at the fact that he is sort of defending the fact that he is sort saying that bisu didn't do that much when bisu was the reason why skt won so many times.


lol I've never said Bisu hasn't done much. Thank you for putting words in my mouth though.

We refer to teams as a single person when the rest of the team sucks in comparison to them and the team consistently gets a single win or two only from the one winner, such as KTFlash (when only Flash wins on his team) or Jaedong Oz (when only Jaedong wins). The reason nobody (except for you) says SKTBisu is because SKT keeps winning... because plenty of Bisu's teammates are contributing throughout the season. That being said, I never said Bisu wasn't an integral part of the team.

Anyways, I'm not going to argue about this anymore. It seems you misinterpreted me.

Well now that you clarify, it makes a bit more sense. But
a) I said SKBisu partly as a joke.
b) I'm not the only one who says SKBisu, it was mentioned couple times a while back. Like a year or two ago.
c) We don't really refer to teams as a single person cause the team sucks, its because there is one person carrying the team, is Bisu carrying SKT? Yes. So that is partly why I say SKBisu. He wins twice a day and ace matches, gets AK for SKT. He is definitely carrying the team. All the other teams don't have a true ace, which is why no other team is referred as a single person.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
January 16 2011 07:25 GMT
#686
On January 16 2011 16:21 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 16:13 zenMaster wrote:
On January 16 2011 16:10 b0lt wrote:
On January 16 2011 16:05 Ecrilon wrote:
On January 16 2011 16:02 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 16 2011 15:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Except SKT actually has depth. KT and Oz are notorious for needing to rely on Flash and Jaedong.

Lol. Says the person who is a fan of the team whose only team wins came from bisu this round.

Seriously? Because Bisu came out second. JD, Flash, and Stork all came out last, because the rest of their team had already lost.


Yeah, well, a lot of good that depth did SKT:

(P)BeSt « Empire of the Sun » (P)Stats
(T)Fantasy « Circuit Breaker » (P)Stats
(T)Fantasy « Fortress » (Z)Action
(T)Fantasy « Aztec » (P)Tempest
(T)Fantasy « Benzene » (T)Flash
(T)Ssak « La Mancha » (T)Flash
(P)Bisu « Icarus » (T)Flash

If losing to Flash = no depth, then no team has depth.


One thing that's kind of weird is how teams aren't able to "snipe" top players. Usually it's often in WL that you see a top player lose a game after a win, because he got "sniped". T1 and Hite both had 3 cracks at Flash and failed. Stork has 3-kills and 4-kills in two series. Jaedong's only loss was against Stork. Bisu AKed twice. Even TBLS don't have infinite preparation time for all MUs on all maps. Surely you can win at least once, right?

Even snipers have to practice on all the maps in WL, which makes it harder to take down the top players.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
January 16 2011 07:26 GMT
#687
Why is every single thread in winner's league turning into a KT v SKT or Bisu v Flash argument?
Neither of your teams were in this game. Please go away.

Good work by (P)Jaehoon today, you did all you could!
Sucker for nostalgia
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
January 16 2011 07:26 GMT
#688
On January 16 2011 16:18 RJGooner wrote:
I mean .....let's face facts here, every team needs it's superstars to win their games... alot of times Flash/Jd/Bisu/Stork winning is critical to the team winning, ESPECIALLY in winners league. If stork hadn't played here jaehoon might have aked or khan would have lost 4-1 4-2 etc

I agree, MBC would've won today if it were regular format. Oh well that's winner's league I guess. Mind you MBC have had a lot of success in the format, and I think they will in future, with Light and Sea, it's just they couldnt get an answer to the anti-Terran Stork
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
January 16 2011 07:28 GMT
#689
lesson: don't mess with Bisu/SKT, even in a Khan/MBC thread D:D:
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 07:32:08
January 16 2011 07:31 GMT
#690
On January 16 2011 16:28 structuralinertia wrote:
lesson: don't mess with Bisu/SKT, even in a Khan/MBC thread D:D:

Skt fans are so uptight. They need to loosen up >.<
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RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2060 Posts
January 16 2011 07:33 GMT
#691
I agree, MBC would've won today if it were regular format. Oh well that's winner's league I guess. Mind you MBC have had a lot of success in the format, and I think they will in future, with Light and Sea, it's just they couldnt get an answer to the anti-Terran Stork

You omitted the Hoon . I agree that MBC would have won in a different format but honestly.... Seeing light and seas form makes me nervous. ATM tyson and jaehoon are playing the best IMO and I I'm not sure MBC have what it takes to win if Light and Sea (especially Sea) don't play well

#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
January 16 2011 07:34 GMT
#692
On January 16 2011 16:31 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 16:28 structuralinertia wrote:
lesson: don't mess with Bisu/SKT, even in a Khan/MBC thread D:D:

Skt fans are so uptight. They need to loosen up >.<

Hey man, you brought it down upon yourself! Never, ever, provoke the Bisu fans. Ever. Unless you want an endless slew of comments attacking you. ;P
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
January 16 2011 07:37 GMT
#693
On January 16 2011 16:34 Spica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 16:31 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 16 2011 16:28 structuralinertia wrote:
lesson: don't mess with Bisu/SKT, even in a Khan/MBC thread D:D:

Skt fans are so uptight. They need to loosen up >.<

Hey man, you brought it down upon yourself! Never, ever, provoke the Bisu fans. Ever. Unless you want an endless slew of comments attacking you. ;P

My bad~ I didn't mean most of it too. Was just playing around. >.<
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
January 16 2011 07:38 GMT
#694
On January 16 2011 16:33 RJGooner wrote:
Show nested quote +
I agree, MBC would've won today if it were regular format. Oh well that's winner's league I guess. Mind you MBC have had a lot of success in the format, and I think they will in future, with Light and Sea, it's just they couldnt get an answer to the anti-Terran Stork

You omitted the Hoon . I agree that MBC would have won in a different format but honestly.... Seeing light and seas form makes me nervous. ATM tyson and jaehoon are playing the best IMO and I I'm not sure MBC have what it takes to win if Light and Sea (especially Sea) don't play well


MBC can win if Pusan comes out of retirement. Just kidding... or maybe not.

MBC will be fine. They've gone through every round with 5 wins and 4 losses. I don't think it will be much different for WL. It will be too tough to catch SKT but finishing the season in 2nd or 3rd place is quite possible.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
January 16 2011 07:40 GMT
#695
On January 16 2011 16:37 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 16:34 Spica wrote:
On January 16 2011 16:31 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 16 2011 16:28 structuralinertia wrote:
lesson: don't mess with Bisu/SKT, even in a Khan/MBC thread D:D:

Skt fans are so uptight. They need to loosen up >.<

Hey man, you brought it down upon yourself! Never, ever, provoke the Bisu fans. Ever. Unless you want an endless slew of comments attacking you. ;P

My bad~ I didn't mean most of it too. Was just playing around. >.<

It's cool, everyone flames Bisu/SKT once in a while. ^^ I just wish that more Khan fans would support SKT as well though, seeing as lots of SKT fans seem to be big fans of Khan/Stork. D: If SKT didn't exist, then I'd definitely be a major Khan fan~ :3
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2060 Posts
January 16 2011 07:43 GMT
#696
MBC will be fine. They've gone through every round with 5 wins and 4 losses. I don't think it will be much different for WL. It will be too tough to catch SKT but finishing the season in 2nd or 3rd place is quite possible.


Yea I agree, still though is Sea were playing well MBC would be a lot better IMO.

Anyways MBC Fighting!
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
January 16 2011 07:44 GMT
#697
On January 16 2011 16:40 Spica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 16:37 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 16 2011 16:34 Spica wrote:
On January 16 2011 16:31 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 16 2011 16:28 structuralinertia wrote:
lesson: don't mess with Bisu/SKT, even in a Khan/MBC thread D:D:

Skt fans are so uptight. They need to loosen up >.<

Hey man, you brought it down upon yourself! Never, ever, provoke the Bisu fans. Ever. Unless you want an endless slew of comments attacking you. ;P

My bad~ I didn't mean most of it too. Was just playing around. >.<

It's cool, everyone flames Bisu/SKT once in a while. ^^ I just wish that more Khan fans would support SKT as well though, seeing as lots of SKT fans seem to be big fans of Khan/Stork. D: If SKT didn't exist, then I'd definitely be a major Khan fan~ :3

I like Bisu, and I've supported skt multiple times in finals. I just made a joke in calling the taekbangleessang teams a one man team and then the SKT fans immediately jump on me >.>
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
stolensheep
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom306 Posts
January 16 2011 07:48 GMT
#698
What an absolute beast stork is, he's unstoppable at the moment!
twitter.com/stolensheeps
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 07:58:25
January 16 2011 07:51 GMT
#699
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 07:53:02
January 16 2011 07:52 GMT
#700
Jaehoon was very unlucky today. Stork wasnt playing cell phone games.
I would say congrats to jaehoon, but i this goes to show how weak khan is (excluding stork)
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