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astalkulo
Profile Joined October 2007
United States444 Posts
January 15 2011 10:15 GMT
#281
who does kal face next?
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
January 15 2011 10:16 GMT
#282
On January 15 2011 19:15 DJONES wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?



Not only that, he didn't make a forge until after his stargate.


super risky build resulting in complete dominance...simple
Jaedong :3
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 10:18:25
January 15 2011 10:17 GMT
#283
Kal raped greed with risk straight up. I don't quite understand an underwhelming PvZ record on Benzene though, like 9-16? Zergs are supposed to have a hard time on this map due to the normal 3rd gas position that is very hard to build a simcity to protect.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
January 15 2011 10:18 GMT
#284
On January 15 2011 19:16 ReketSomething wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 19:15 DJONES wrote:
On January 15 2011 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?



Not only that, he didn't make a forge until after his stargate.


super risky build resulting in complete dominance...simple


Hardly risky given that Stork used the same build and raped his opponent, forgot who though.

Ro8 MU, if I didn't get my math wrong

Top half of the bracket
(Z)Jaedong vs. (Z)HoGiL/(P)Snow winner
(Z)Calm vs (Z)Hydra

Bottom half of the bracket
(P)Kal vs (Z)great
(P)Stork vs (Z)ZerO
Meh
astalkulo
Profile Joined October 2007
United States444 Posts
January 15 2011 10:19 GMT
#285
who does kal face next?
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
January 15 2011 10:20 GMT
#286
On January 15 2011 19:18 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 19:16 ReketSomething wrote:
On January 15 2011 19:15 DJONES wrote:
On January 15 2011 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?



Not only that, he didn't make a forge until after his stargate.


super risky build resulting in complete dominance...simple


Hardly risky given that Stork used the same build and raped his opponent, forgot who though.

Ro8 MU, if I didn't get my math wrong

Top half of the bracket
(Z)Jaedong vs. (Z)HoGiL/(P)Snow winner
(Z)Calm vs (Z)Hydra

Bottom half of the bracket
(P)Kal vs (Z)great
(P)Stork vs (Z)ZerO
Thanks!
Calm v. Hydra and Stork v. Zero look like they're going to be sick.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 15 2011 10:20 GMT
#287
I hope Snow just wins because I'm pretty tired right now.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 15 2011 10:20 GMT
#288
On January 15 2011 19:18 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 19:16 ReketSomething wrote:
On January 15 2011 19:15 DJONES wrote:
On January 15 2011 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?



Not only that, he didn't make a forge until after his stargate.


super risky build resulting in complete dominance...simple


Hardly risky given that Stork used the same build and raped his opponent, forgot who though.

So, because Stork has used the build that means it cannot be risky?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8100 Posts
January 15 2011 10:20 GMT
#289
man so weird not having a terran in the Ro8. when was the last time that happened? never?
Free Palestine
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
January 15 2011 10:20 GMT
#290
+ Show Spoiler [Round of 8] +
[05:18] <~Cratonz> so its calm vs jaedong
[05:18] <~Cratonz> kal vs great
[05:18] <~Cratonz> zero vs stork
[05:18] <~Cratonz> and
[05:18] <@Kimoleon> Hydra vs winner Snow/Hogil
[05:18] <~Cratonz> yes
twitch.tv/cratonz
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
January 15 2011 10:20 GMT
#291
On January 15 2011 19:16 ReketSomething wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 19:15 DJONES wrote:
On January 15 2011 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?



Not only that, he didn't make a forge until after his stargate.


super risky build resulting in complete dominance...simple

It wasn't risky at all. He set up the pylon for a ffe and went to scout. saw that roro didn't even have his pool down yet, and was droning up a lot. kal put down nexus first.

kal continued looking around with his probe and saw that roro was going to expo again. kal put down a gateway and core, skipping cannons there.

This wasn't greed/risky, it was punishing roro for being greedy.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
yoonyoon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1065 Posts
January 15 2011 10:21 GMT
#292
Kal interview

asked what he thinks about great
says he's the opponent he feels the most confident about in Ro8

if he goes to the finals, he wants to go against Protoss
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
January 15 2011 10:23 GMT
#293
wai fai

OH LEH!

gotta love korean commercials, seriously :D
In the woods, there lurks..
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
January 15 2011 10:23 GMT
#294
On January 15 2011 19:20 Ideas wrote:
man so weird not having a terran in the Ro8. when was the last time that happened? never?

If we argue that Flash plays his own race, then this has roughly been the situation for three years or so.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 10:24:47
January 15 2011 10:24 GMT
#295
On January 15 2011 19:20 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 19:16 ReketSomething wrote:
On January 15 2011 19:15 DJONES wrote:
On January 15 2011 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?



Not only that, he didn't make a forge until after his stargate.


super risky build resulting in complete dominance...simple

It wasn't risky at all. He set up the pylon for a ffe and went to scout. saw that roro didn't even have his pool down yet, and was droning up a lot. kal put down nexus first.

kal continued looking around with his probe and saw that roro was going to expo again. kal put down a gateway and core, skipping cannons there.

This wasn't greed/risky, it was punishing roro for being greedy.

Well thats the point of risky builds, you cant use them blindly :D

Okay okay you can,but then its a coinflip
In the woods, there lurks..
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
January 15 2011 10:26 GMT
#296
''he wants to against protoss in final''
Theres only 1 protoss that fufills that criteria...
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8100 Posts
January 15 2011 10:26 GMT
#297
On January 15 2011 19:23 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 19:20 Ideas wrote:
man so weird not having a terran in the Ro8. when was the last time that happened? never?

If we argue that Flash plays his own race, then this has roughly been the situation for three years or so.


except last MSL where everyone but jaedong was a terran in the semifinals
Free Palestine
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
January 15 2011 10:28 GMT
#298
On January 15 2011 19:24 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 19:20 moopie wrote:
On January 15 2011 19:16 ReketSomething wrote:
On January 15 2011 19:15 DJONES wrote:
On January 15 2011 19:12 Iplaythings wrote:
noone else noticed how kal skipped BOTH cannons for a UBER fast timing?



Not only that, he didn't make a forge until after his stargate.


super risky build resulting in complete dominance...simple

It wasn't risky at all. He set up the pylon for a ffe and went to scout. saw that roro didn't even have his pool down yet, and was droning up a lot. kal put down nexus first.

kal continued looking around with his probe and saw that roro was going to expo again. kal put down a gateway and core, skipping cannons there.

This wasn't greed/risky, it was punishing roro for being greedy.

Well thats the point of risky builds, you cant use them blindly :D

Okay okay you can,but then its a coinflip

but by scouting first, its no longer risky because you know it will work for sure (since your opponent has no lings to attack you during that timing). risky would have been doing it without scouting (or incomplete scouting if opponent denies scouting).

risky implies a risk (hey what do you know). scouting before eliminates that risk.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8100 Posts
January 15 2011 10:29 GMT
#299
On January 15 2011 19:20 Craton wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Round of 8] +
[05:18] <~Cratonz> so its calm vs jaedong
[05:18] <~Cratonz> kal vs great
[05:18] <~Cratonz> zero vs stork
[05:18] <~Cratonz> and
[05:18] <@Kimoleon> Hydra vs winner Snow/Hogil
[05:18] <~Cratonz> yes



how does that work out? I thought it was set up so highest kespa ranked played vs last kespa ranked, 2nd highest vs 2nd lowest, etc. ?
Free Palestine
gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
January 15 2011 10:29 GMT
#300
all good for kal, except that he always wilts vs sclass!

GO JAEDONG GO!
JAEDONG ÜBERBONJWA!
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