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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 16 2011 19:15 GMT
#921
On January 16 2011 01:11 zenMaster wrote:
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On January 16 2011 01:04 moopie wrote:
On January 16 2011 00:42 zenMaster wrote:
I hate KTFlash.

and yet you seem to like JaedongOz.

The difference is that Jaedong never turtles.


I absolutely hate this dumb delusion everyone has about zergs not being turtles. EVERY goddamn zerg turtles except Kwanro. Standar ZvT is turtling on three bases until you can sneak a fourth base and turtle on that until you can get the much more powerful hive tech. Standard ZvP is turtling on three bases with buildings and sunkens while you mass up drones until you hit higher tech and can spend all your larva on units.

Jaedong does this. Jaedong turtles more than Flash because 2 of his match's standard builds turtle until you reach double digit minutes in game time. He doesn't always play exactly standard, the same as Flash doesn't.
Remember Violet.
Eun_Star
Profile Joined April 2010
United States322 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 23:47:33
January 16 2011 23:30 GMT
#922
On January 15 2011 17:28 Goragoth wrote:
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On January 15 2011 16:56 Eun_Star wrote:
On January 15 2011 16:53 Goragoth wrote:
Ugh Skyhigh could have had that game so easily. Flash played like trash and Skyhigh handed him the win anyway.


Lol? Are you serious or are you being sarcastic?

How am I wrong? He was ahead in the early game and Flash wasted a bunch of units guarding the middle. Then Skyhigh handed Flash the top-right expo without a fight and continued to let Flash take unguarded expos across the map, using his drop-fleet force to gift Flash takes by dropping the middle and making useless attempts at dropping Flash's main. The S in RTS stands for strategy and is pretty simple: have more resources than your opponent and win. Too bad Flash seems to be the only progamer with more than a tenuous grasp of that concept.


I must have viewed the game differently from your point of view. Skyhigh was playing well early game with his aggression (and gained advantage), but after that (flash made a brilliant decision by pulling scv's to save himself), it was just Flash domination until the last few minutes where Skyhigh had a chance to take the game. If flash did play like trash and skyhigh handed him the win, like you have said in your previous post, then I would not have enjoyed watching the game. I'm not a TvT fan, but that was certainly a fun game to watch. My belief is that flash played very well in this game--and that is, as you have explained, by having more resources than your opponent.

This feels like im necroing a thread...lol
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United States27 Posts
January 16 2011 23:44 GMT
#923
On January 15 2011 17:28 Goragoth wrote:
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On January 15 2011 16:56 Eun_Star wrote:
On January 15 2011 16:53 Goragoth wrote:
Ugh Skyhigh could have had that game so easily. Flash played like trash and Skyhigh handed him the win anyway.


Lol? Are you serious or are you being sarcastic?

The S in RTS stands for strategy and is pretty simple: have more resources than your opponent and win.


So you think that Starcraft is a simple game of having more resources and winning? Somehow I have the feeling that you're one of those people that act like they know it all, when they are actually over simplifying things.
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