But srsly who leaves a control group worth of MnM afk in the 7.5o position and have them do nothing until it's too late
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mnesthes
5433 Posts
But srsly who leaves a control group worth of MnM afk in the 7.5o position and have them do nothing until it's too late | ||
corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On January 10 2011 21:35 ArvickHero wrote: no, it was Jaedong-esque. Savior pales in comparison to how amazingly Jaedong just played I disagree. Average midgame and muta control, get to hive tech with a disadvantage, a beautifully timed counter, clutch 10 min defense plus great counterattacks ? That really sounds more like savior than Jaedong. The difference of course, is that both Jaedong's and Baby's multitask were better than, say, savior and Nada, which is to be expected. I'd say this was kinda savior vs iris : the comeback was less impressive, the multitask was way better. | ||
Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On January 10 2011 21:41 McDonalds wrote: There were a couple of lurkers at the bottom of the ramp. I guess he figured they were more valuable to Jaedong in the long run. Yeah, I know, but there were some windows of opportunity to dropship them out of there at least I think. For example, that drop in JD's main, could've taken marines from there with an empty dropship, would've only been slightly later. All in all that, and JD donating mutas were the only major blunders in this game I believe. | ||
pylonsalad
Canada649 Posts
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Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
Defending against 2 simultaneous drops while entering the main and killing scv's with a drone. Fuck. | ||
Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 10 2011 21:38 letian wrote: "and that's why JD should not have been awarded the win in Game 3 after the power outage" just dont pull this again in here. Get over it already I'm just joking. + Show Spoiler + Or am I? Feel free to start a discussion about it, or I will treat your silence as though you agree with me. XD ------------------------------- There was like literally one way JD could've won that game from the position he was in after the midgame, and he found it somehow. Brilliant. | ||
LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
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kwkwookw
218 Posts
On January 10 2011 21:46 pylonsalad wrote: Any good tvz players know what baby could have done differently? From my perspective not only did he not make any mistakes, he played excellent and still was never ahead it seems, even after denying the 3rd gas twice. Perhaps he could have gone for the nat and main kill with the 3 tank 1 vessel push right before consume finishes instead of going to 11. I'm perplexed as to how any terran could have done anything better to win that game. the key was that baby kept getting his vessels sniped so couldn't amass a sizeable number: what the krn commentators actually said so don't call me out | ||
4Servy
Netherlands1542 Posts
On January 10 2011 21:46 pylonsalad wrote: Any good tvz players know what baby could have done differently? From my perspective not only did he not make any mistakes, he played excellent and still was never ahead it seems, even after denying the 3rd gas twice. Perhaps he could have gone for the nat and main kill with the 3 tank 1 vessel push right before consume finishes instead of going to 11. I'm perplexed as to how any terran could have done anything better to win that game. I think you need a 4th tank at your nat to slow down counter attacks when your not pushing the zerg main but his 3th instead. Vulture mines could have helped also imo. | ||
j2choe
Canada243 Posts
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nepeta
1872 Posts
On January 10 2011 21:46 pylonsalad wrote: Any good tvz players know what baby could have done differently? From my perspective not only did he not make any mistakes, he played excellent and still was never ahead it seems, even after denying the 3rd gas twice. Perhaps he could have gone for the nat and main kill with the 3 tank 1 vessel push right before consume finishes instead of going to 11. I'm perplexed as to how any terran could have done anything better to win that game. Perhaps a better/different start. But I missed the part where the bunker got up in the middle, so I'm just guessing :p Perhaps ask mr Lee Youngho? | ||
mnesthes
5433 Posts
On January 10 2011 21:46 pylonsalad wrote: I think he left a group of MnM in afk mode in the 7.5o position... until it's too late. And he kinda underestimated Jaedong's fortitude too.Any good tvz players know what baby could have done differently? From my perspective not only did he not make any mistakes, he played excellent and still was never ahead it seems, even after denying the 3rd gas twice. Perhaps he could have gone for the nat and main kill with the 3 tank 1 vessel push right before consume finishes instead of going to 11. I'm perplexed as to how any terran could have done anything better to win that game. | ||
DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On January 10 2011 21:46 pylonsalad wrote: Any good tvz players know what baby could have done differently? From my perspective not only did he not make any mistakes, he played excellent and still was never ahead it seems, even after denying the 3rd gas twice. Perhaps he could have gone for the nat and main kill with the 3 tank 1 vessel push right before consume finishes instead of going to 11. I'm perplexed as to how any terran could have done anything better to win that game. He was being a bit dumb by forcing those eraser vessels when JD was just too well prepared for it. He kept losing too many vessels, usually Terran needs to amass a huge vessel cloud in lategame bio TvZ. | ||
Flushot
United States218 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
pheww, I honestly thought that I was wrong, thanks!! ![]() That was sick, every unit is involved in the fight, even the drones!!! | ||
mnesthes
5433 Posts
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
Wanna see BackHo vs. Stork ![]() | ||
xarthaz
1704 Posts
On January 10 2011 21:49 j2choe wrote: You cant call that better movement. It is the natural part of tvz. If T and Z both play solid, Z will have only 1 viable build to use and have major trouble getting third up and running, while T has many viable options of shutting it down. Hence the perceived imbalance of midgame tvz, and JD could only overcome it with masterful swarmsIncredible comeback. Baby's army had the better movement at the beginning, running past JD's defenses to catch expos the moment they hatched, but JD finally cut him off the third time around. After that, his inhuman multitasking allowed him to simultaneously pressure Baby's natural, split Baby's army and immobilize each section, and macro his 3 bases enough to eventually overwhelm the Terran. No way Baby could keep up with that...JD was just possessed. | ||
legaton
France1763 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
![]() Oh and JD's record against Midas will be 5-0 now. ![]() | ||
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