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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13074 Posts
January 06 2011 15:51 GMT
#681
Fuck yea Stork and Great ! 4/4 LB ezz
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
January 06 2011 16:08 GMT
#682
On January 06 2011 22:00 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 19:52 baubo wrote:
This map definitely favored Stork with its long distance.

yup, such an imba map, poor bisu T.T


I know, these maps are horriblly imba for PvP
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
DJONES
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States218 Posts
January 06 2011 17:00 GMT
#683
On January 06 2011 19:02 POWEROUTAGE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 18:59 zmeqt wrote:
On January 06 2011 18:57 ArvickHero wrote:
On January 06 2011 18:56 usopsama wrote:
A player like Flash would probably have threw down a second bunker just to be safe.

he would also build 108 turrets in one game

Say whatever you want,but i'm sure Flash would have won that.He has so many clutch defenses with terran,that he probably would have defended this without any difficulty.Especially after JD's bad initial ling micro .


1 crucial thing Flash does differently with his 14cc openings is that he walls off with the supply depots so the ling follow-up we saw after that couldn't have possibly worked.


Kinda like how he did vs. Effort in the OSL finals game 5?
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DJONES
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States218 Posts
January 06 2011 17:04 GMT
#684
On January 06 2011 19:00 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 18:59 zmeqt wrote:
On January 06 2011 18:57 ArvickHero wrote:
On January 06 2011 18:56 usopsama wrote:
A player like Flash would probably have threw down a second bunker just to be safe.

he would also build 108 turrets in one game

Say whatever you want,but i'm sure Flash would have won that.He has so many clutch defenses with terran,that he probably would have defended this without any difficulty.Especially after JD's bad initial ling micro .

Light, Flash, and maybe Fantasy would've defended that. Honestly, JD got lucky that Midas didn't do that well.


I seem to remember Jaedong beating Fantasy in almost the exact same way, minus the drone attack.
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Agrajag
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden38 Posts
January 06 2011 17:32 GMT
#685
these two protoss players showed us that protoss can not only just win, but keep wining.


Lol!
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
January 06 2011 18:05 GMT
#686
Yeah JD! And yeah Bisu ruins my day again...Sigh..
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
January 06 2011 18:09 GMT
#687
This was a great day. 4/4 LB WOOO JD AND STORK
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 18:27:52
January 06 2011 18:26 GMT
#688
Who did op? Not doing recommended games or anything.

And isn't it MSL ro16? Not MSL ro16 day 1? So whats up with people announcing their liquibet result when its not finalized yet.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
HitoriTomoyo
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada264 Posts
January 06 2011 20:05 GMT
#689
Only FlaSh and Light would have been able to repel Jaedong's rush; FanTaSy has fallen to a similar rush before when playing against Jaedong and no other player can really match FlaSh and Light's TvZ prowess, particularly against a player like Jaedong.

If Bisu loses to Stork here, then this MSL belongs to Jaedong. Stork is a great player, but Stork + Finals + vJaedong = Jaedong (finally) acquiring his Golden Badge.
G.K.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States105 Posts
January 06 2011 20:17 GMT
#690
On January 07 2011 03:26 MuffinDude wrote:
Who did op? Not doing recommended games or anything.

And isn't it MSL ro16? Not MSL ro16 day 1? So whats up with people announcing their liquibet result when its not finalized yet.


Recommended games
Game 1: A typical (not) macro TvZ. Watch if you have time
Game 2: Entertaining game indeed. It is worth watching the game.
Game 3: ZvZ what do you expect at least the winner showed great micro.
Game 4: Def watch it.

It is MSL ro16 day 1.
But many people prematurely think that all the winners today will advance to ro8 w/ 2-0 or 2-1.
Hearthstone // LoL
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
January 06 2011 20:19 GMT
#691
On January 07 2011 05:05 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
Only FlaSh and Light would have been able to repel Jaedong's rush; FanTaSy has fallen to a similar rush before when playing against Jaedong and no other player can really match FlaSh and Light's TvZ prowess, particularly against a player like Jaedong.

If Bisu loses to Stork here, then this MSL belongs to Jaedong. Stork is a great player, but Stork + Finals + vJaedong = Jaedong (finally) acquiring his Golden Badge.

Agreed. I like Stork but Bisu's the only one with a shot at beating JD in this MSL. If Stork beats Bisu he'll just lose to JD in the finals.
HitoriTomoyo
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 20:26:49
January 06 2011 20:24 GMT
#692
On January 07 2011 05:17 G.K. wrote:
It is MSL ro16 day 1.
But many people prematurely think that all the winners today will advance to ro8 w/ 2-0 or 2-1.


The problem is that the winner of today rides a decent momentum going into Day Two, which presents a slight mental advantage for today's winners (though the advantage is only very slight to begin with). There are exceptions at times obviously (for example, if Midas has won today, Jaedong would have most likely turned it around easily in Day Two), but for two players that are equally matched, any advantage, no matter how miniscule, can keep the series in their favour.

Mostly referring to Stork vs Bisu here.

On January 07 2011 05:19 Slow Motion wrote:
Agreed. I like Stork but Bisu's the only one with a shot at beating JD in this MSL. If Stork beats Bisu he'll just lose to JD in the finals.


IIRC, there hasn't been a (seriously) competitive BoX series involving Stork and Jaedong where Stork has emerged victorious. Stork came close in Korean Air S2, but Jaedong is just too good in BoX series games, especially when he's facing a Protoss.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
January 06 2011 20:35 GMT
#693
4/4 Easy!

Go Stork! Though no pvp victory over Bisu will avenge that 2-3 in the MSL final, but I'm cheering for you!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
gen.Sun
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States539 Posts
January 06 2011 20:36 GMT
#694
No way man, BoX doesn't have any particular significance outside of the psychological. Stork is just as good of a BoX player as Jaedong is. I think the SvJ record speaks for itself in terms of how good Stork is.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 20:45:59
January 06 2011 20:44 GMT
#695
How can you say that when Stork has lost every significant finals series besides the one vs. Fantasy? Before Jaedong started losing to Flash he was easily considered the best Bo5 player ever.

Stork traditionally does much better against Jaedong than other zergs. With bo5 starting next round, if Stork advances it will be interesting to see how he plays against another zerg in that format (if he even plays against zerg). While he has undoubtedly improved his PvZ, I still cannot say Stork is the easy favorite to go to the finals on his side of the bracket.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 06 2011 20:46 GMT
#696
Ahahaha, just watched the game between JD and Midas, and I went O____O when I saw him pulling the drones. JD is so cool. :D And I'm happy that Stork won as well in a pretty entertaining game. JD vs Stork in the finals, gogo!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
January 06 2011 21:03 GMT
#697
Ok so could someone who understand this game better then me explain the bisu vs stork game?

Stork goes for faster expo and bisu goes for faster harass. He takes out 12 probes but it still seem that stork came out on top. Seem easier to go fast expo then since you can lose 12 probes and still be ahead.

After that I have one question? At the big battle in the end, how did stork came out on top? He attack in a really bad possition. BIsu had a good hold and stork had to move over 2 bridges that got alot of his army stuck and out of action. Was it only due to the storms and more zeals that won him that battle?


Asl for MSL and OSL, If stork beat Bisu I dont think he will even reach the final. STork is good as shit but I still think the best thing that can happen is that he lose to Bisu. It sounds strange I know but STork cant handle bo5 in both MSL and OSL at the same time, since Khan also want him to practice for WL and SPL. Impossible.

But first stork need to take one more game vs hiya tomorrow.

emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 06 2011 21:13 GMT
#698
JUST WATCHED ON MOKTIRA

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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 21:22:38
January 06 2011 21:20 GMT
#699
Pretty much, whoever wins next week between Stork and Bisu should go to the finals. Unless one of them chokes.

If they meet Jaedong in the finals, I think Bisu has a much better shot at beating Jaedong than Stork does. It also doesn't help that I'm a Bisu fanboy, but in all honesty can anyone seriously predict that Stork has a good chance against Jaedong in the finals? If it was Flash then I'd probably be more okay with Stork winning as then it'd make sense for Stork to go to the finals.

I just don't want Stork to beat Bisu just so we can have another JD MSL. So fucking boring. Since I think Stork pretty much has the OSL finals down I'd rather see a double Protoss Starleague. Here's to hoping that Bisu can play two amazing games next week.

@purpose,
Bisu killed a lot of probes, yeah. But Stork had a bigger army and then basically killed all of Bisu's army. So it was probably about even with Stork in a slightly better position as his army was bigger and Bisu had to completely rebuild his. The big battle at the middle went bad for Bisu because Stork got HTs out and pushed before Bisu had them. Had Stork not gotten the fast HTs I think that Bisu likely could've won especially with that third expo.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
January 06 2011 21:37 GMT
#700
Come on Midas, win at least one game

safe BO please !
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