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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 06 2011 22:02 GMT
#701
4/4 LB fuck yea
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
January 06 2011 22:15 GMT
#702
wowzas, the jaedong/midas stork/bisu sets were epic! as was said, daniel must be ecstatic!

ggs.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
January 06 2011 22:19 GMT
#703
On January 07 2011 07:02 Kenpachi wrote:
4/4 LB fuck yea

The MSL RO16 LB isn't over, it's a BO3 match while the OSL RO8 LB seems to be split up into two. Anybody know the reasons?

The Hydra vs. Classic game was pretty darn awesome for a ZvT, offensive guardians at the absolutely right time, lurkers at the right place at the right time, valkyries, defiler snipe. Hydra has very impressive play. Classic looked downright confused at the end.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
January 06 2011 23:14 GMT
#704
LJD is the ultimate fucking baller, how can you not love him after his game today

awesome
BW is back
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
January 06 2011 23:38 GMT
#705
On January 07 2011 06:03 purpose wrote:
Ok so could someone who understand this game better then me explain the bisu vs stork game?

Stork goes for faster expo and bisu goes for faster harass. He takes out 12 probes but it still seem that stork came out on top. Seem easier to go fast expo then since you can lose 12 probes and still be ahead.

After that I have one question? At the big battle in the end, how did stork came out on top? He attack in a really bad possition. BIsu had a good hold and stork had to move over 2 bridges that got alot of his army stuck and out of action. Was it only due to the storms and more zeals that won him that battle?


Asl for MSL and OSL, If stork beat Bisu I dont think he will even reach the final. STork is good as shit but I still think the best thing that can happen is that he lose to Bisu. It sounds strange I know but STork cant handle bo5 in both MSL and OSL at the same time, since Khan also want him to practice for WL and SPL. Impossible.

But first stork need to take one more game vs hiya tomorrow.



You ask how (P)Stork can handle it?!
I tell you:

CELL-PHONE GAMES!
BW4LYF . . . . . . PM me, I LOVE PMs. . . . . . Long live "NaDa's Body" . . . . . . Fantasy | Bisu/Best | Jaedong . . . . .
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
January 06 2011 23:49 GMT
#706
On January 07 2011 06:03 purpose wrote:
Ok so could someone who understand this game better then me explain the bisu vs stork game?

Stork goes for faster expo and bisu goes for faster harass. He takes out 12 probes but it still seem that stork came out on top. Seem easier to go fast expo then since you can lose 12 probes and still be ahead.

After that I have one question? At the big battle in the end, how did stork came out on top? He attack in a really bad possition. BIsu had a good hold and stork had to move over 2 bridges that got alot of his army stuck and out of action. Was it only due to the storms and more zeals that won him that battle?


Stork's macro was just too good and yes, those storms perfectly softened up his army AND he sniped that shuttle with two reavers, putting him at an even greater advantage, since stork's reavers were wreaking havoc on his stormed troops.

great game though.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
January 07 2011 00:13 GMT
#707
I really REALLY hope Bisu takes the next 2. While I love Stork, being #2 to me in many ways, I want Bisu to win the MSL. Stork is obviously the favorite in OSL... comon already, give us JD vs Bisu finals for MSL.

That isn't too much to ask for is it?
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
January 07 2011 00:22 GMT
#708
On January 07 2011 06:03 purpose wrote:
Ok so could someone who understand this game better then me explain the bisu vs stork game?

Stork goes for faster expo and bisu goes for faster harass. He takes out 12 probes but it still seem that stork came out on top. Seem easier to go fast expo then since you can lose 12 probes and still be ahead.

After that I have one question? At the big battle in the end, how did stork came out on top? He attack in a really bad possition. BIsu had a good hold and stork had to move over 2 bridges that got alot of his army stuck and out of action. Was it only due to the storms and more zeals that won him that battle?


Stork mentioned that Bisu's mineral patch was 150 more than Stork's, which meant that Stork mined a lot more than Bisu. Maybe not ~1000 more(pulled main probes faster), but probably more than offset the probe losses. It was a very large map, and Bisu cut probes heavily to get his speed-reaver out quickly. So take into all that, it seemed Bisu's harass wasn't as effective as it looked. Plus his half-dead shuttle was less useful in future battles.

Stork also won the first minor skirmish with like 5 more goons. Plus his tech was faster, even if it wasn't by alot: zealot production, zealot speed, and storm. Stork also added more gateways(further proof that Bisu must've really cut probes early in the game). So yes, Stork indeed attacked from a bad position map wise. But he was hitting the timing window when Bisu had no speedlots/HTs. So Stork had great army size AND better army composition.

I really wish MSL provide food counters to the games. It's much easier to see who has the advantage.
Meh
ohN
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1075 Posts
January 07 2011 00:47 GMT
#709
That jd game was crazy.
And yay, stork won.

<3 moktira for super fast uploads
POWEROUTAGE
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore884 Posts
January 07 2011 02:09 GMT
#710
Aside from Bisu vs. Stork, I highly recommend Hydra vs. Classic. Hydra played very impressively, dealing with the initial valkyries well then countering the mech transition PERFECTLY. The guardians at the end were pure genius.
Stats. The new standard bearer of the protoss.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
January 07 2011 04:25 GMT
#711
On January 07 2011 07:19 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2011 07:02 Kenpachi wrote:
4/4 LB fuck yea

The MSL RO16 LB isn't over, it's a BO3 match while the OSL RO8 LB seems to be split up into two. Anybody know the reasons?

Arbitrary decision, most likely.
twitch.tv/cratonz
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
January 07 2011 04:40 GMT
#712
Agreed, Hydra did damn good, was a gg.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
sAAvior
Profile Joined July 2007
Poland248 Posts
January 07 2011 08:57 GMT
#713
OH MY FUCKING GOD SO GLAD I SWITCHED FROM GSL FOR THIS FUCK YEAH JAEDONG


Same here ! Great matches so much better than sc2 bs
Jstor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States107 Posts
January 07 2011 19:42 GMT
#714
Will the drone rush ever be a reliable counter to 14CC?

I can see this as the same thing that happened to terran bunker rush vs toss 14 nex
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10348 Posts
January 08 2011 02:06 GMT
#715
STORK!!!!
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 10 2011 03:18 GMT
#716
On January 08 2011 04:42 Jstor wrote:
Will the drone rush ever be a reliable counter to 14CC?

I can see this as the same thing that happened to terran bunker rush vs toss 14 nex


No it won't. Jaedong said he did it because he saw how the rax was positioned badly to where marines have to walk around or something to that sort. Don't think it'll ever become a hardcounter though lol.
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