Arbs with a huge zealot/goon army and no stormers... wtf, Jangbi?! Do you think you're Best? At least he didn't 2 or 3 base arb... then there'd be no arguing that, but this isn't how you win your PvTs, Jangbi
On December 14 2010 20:11 composition wrote: ShadeR please explain in detail.
I saw that once or twice he caught the terran army undefended by mines or not properly together and he had a chance to whittle down the mech ball. He decided back off each time.
Of course it's easy as an observer to make these types of critiques.
I think the decision to trade 2 bases for 2 bases reducing bbyong income to zero was correct. Jangbi's army composition could not stop that ball from taking out the 6oclock nexus. Arbiters did not have enough energy for stasis, and protoss would be fighting uphill against tanks.
omg, stork's playing and those two girls aren't even watching
Stork sniping a goon as snow puts on a little pressure. Stork takes his nat as his reaver crawls out.
Snow has his shuttle out and his reaver should pop shortly Storks nat is up and running. Observer being chased out of Snow's main.
Stork spots Snow's shuttle with a pylon and probe. Snow retreating his forces after he wasn't able to sneak his reaver in. Meanwhile an observer sits in Snow's nat and watches everything
Stork's army is in the center, Snow positions himself on top of the ridge with two reavers supporthing. Reaver fires a shot, Stork backs away from the center, Snow advancing, both armies are dancing back and forth.
Snow gets his reaver in the nat, no shot fired as goons force Snow to load his reaver back into the shuttle. Temp archive for Stork
Snow managing to get some free shots on Stork's army with his shuttle/reaver micro
Snow getting his third up, reaver drop at Stork's third, one probe down while the rest get away, cannon warps in and forces the shuttle to leave.
Both armies dancing around yet again, that engage, storms! Snow has the high ground but stork is storming that army and moving his goons forward. Stork dominating that engagement
Snow moves whatever is left back to base. Stork not waiting for anything, he moves his army forward towards the nat, storm with an overwhelming force
On December 14 2010 20:31 corumjhaelen wrote: Stork playing as though he's scared. Man, you're PvP is not that bad, you need more confidence.
I think hes just happy to take his third and out macro.
That's true, but I also think he could live without giving free shots to his opponent or stuff like that. Maybe I'm still sad about that proxy robo on Benzene or something. Really solid play though, but nothing would make me happier than to see Stork winning a league again, and his Achille's heel still seems to be PvP (well, his PvZ is... unpredictable I'd say, but pretty good).
On December 14 2010 20:31 corumjhaelen wrote: Stork playing as though he's scared. Man, you're PvP is not that bad, you need more confidence.
I think hes just happy to take his third and out macro.
That's true, but I also think he could live without giving free shots to his opponent or stuff like that. Maybe I'm still sad about that proxy robo on Benzene or something. Really solid play though, but nothing would make me happier than to see Stork winning a league again, and his Achille's heel still seems to be PvP (well, his PvZ is... unpredictable I'd say, but pretty good).
true, except his PvP used to be some of the best/the best at times, it's only more recently that it's his weaker MU, used to be his PvZ that was weaker imo
On December 14 2010 20:31 corumjhaelen wrote: Stork playing as though he's scared. Man, you're PvP is not that bad, you need more confidence.
I think hes just happy to take his third and out macro.
That's true, but I also think he could live without giving free shots to his opponent or stuff like that. Maybe I'm still sad about that proxy robo on Benzene or something. Really solid play though, but nothing would make me happier than to see Stork winning a league again, and his Achille's heel still seems to be PvP (well, his PvZ is... unpredictable I'd say, but pretty good).
true, except his PvP used to be some of the best/the best at times, it's only more recently that it's his weaker MU, used to be his PvZ that was weaker imo
Yes I agree, remember when he manhandeld Bisu then Best who was on a 16 PvP win streak. Even the MSL final he lost against Bisu shows how awesome he used to be at the match up. <3 Stork
On December 14 2010 20:41 structuralinertia wrote:
On December 14 2010 20:38 corumjhaelen wrote:
On December 14 2010 20:34 ShadeR wrote:
On December 14 2010 20:31 corumjhaelen wrote: Stork playing as though he's scared. Man, you're PvP is not that bad, you need more confidence.
I think hes just happy to take his third and out macro.
That's true, but I also think he could live without giving free shots to his opponent or stuff like that. Maybe I'm still sad about that proxy robo on Benzene or something. Really solid play though, but nothing would make me happier than to see Stork winning a league again, and his Achille's heel still seems to be PvP (well, his PvZ is... unpredictable I'd say, but pretty good).
true, except his PvP used to be some of the best/the best at times, it's only more recently that it's his weaker MU, used to be his PvZ that was weaker imo
Yes I agree, remember when he manhandeld Bisu then Best who was on a 16 PvP win streak. Even the MSL final he lost against Bisu shows how awesome he used to be at the match up. <3 Stork
Stork was actually the favorite against Bisu in GTV2 I think. Best, Bisu and Stork all kinda lost their godly PvP skill of old to be honest. That or other protoss got better.
On December 14 2010 20:41 structuralinertia wrote:
On December 14 2010 20:38 corumjhaelen wrote:
On December 14 2010 20:34 ShadeR wrote:
On December 14 2010 20:31 corumjhaelen wrote: Stork playing as though he's scared. Man, you're PvP is not that bad, you need more confidence.
I think hes just happy to take his third and out macro.
That's true, but I also think he could live without giving free shots to his opponent or stuff like that. Maybe I'm still sad about that proxy robo on Benzene or something. Really solid play though, but nothing would make me happier than to see Stork winning a league again, and his Achille's heel still seems to be PvP (well, his PvZ is... unpredictable I'd say, but pretty good).
true, except his PvP used to be some of the best/the best at times, it's only more recently that it's his weaker MU, used to be his PvZ that was weaker imo
Yes I agree, remember when he manhandeld Bisu then Best who was on a 16 PvP win streak. Even the MSL final he lost against Bisu shows how awesome he used to be at the match up. <3 Stork
I believe Stork's strongest point atm is his ability to innovate, with new maps he is able to innovate the shit out of the pvz matchup ala his game vs soulkey, pvp not so much. iirc he said in the dual interview with bisu that the constant rotation of map pool is good for protoss because they are able to suprise the opposition, might be the due to stork being the type of player he is. He always plays with these very precise tailored build orders and a stagnant map pool allows his opponents to 'figure' him out.
On December 14 2010 20:41 structuralinertia wrote:
On December 14 2010 20:38 corumjhaelen wrote:
On December 14 2010 20:34 ShadeR wrote:
On December 14 2010 20:31 corumjhaelen wrote: Stork playing as though he's scared. Man, you're PvP is not that bad, you need more confidence.
I think hes just happy to take his third and out macro.
That's true, but I also think he could live without giving free shots to his opponent or stuff like that. Maybe I'm still sad about that proxy robo on Benzene or something. Really solid play though, but nothing would make me happier than to see Stork winning a league again, and his Achille's heel still seems to be PvP (well, his PvZ is... unpredictable I'd say, but pretty good).
true, except his PvP used to be some of the best/the best at times, it's only more recently that it's his weaker MU, used to be his PvZ that was weaker imo
Yes I agree, remember when he manhandeld Bisu then Best who was on a 16 PvP win streak. Even the MSL final he lost against Bisu shows how awesome he used to be at the match up. <3 Stork
Stork was actually the favorite against Bisu in GTV2 I think. Best, Bisu and Stork all kinda lost their godly PvP skill of old to be honest. That or other protoss got better.
I'm not sure, but Bisu was clearly not a pushover either. I think PvP favours a lot strong mechanics nowadays, especially on those larger macro heavy maps, and so that it's harder for slow Sork or harass heavy Bisu to dominate. I also think that on more technical maps, in series, they would probably be better. For Best, he's just not what he used to be anymore, no matter how you look at it. ZvZ Hydra vs ... ?
On December 14 2010 20:41 structuralinertia wrote:
On December 14 2010 20:38 corumjhaelen wrote:
On December 14 2010 20:34 ShadeR wrote:
On December 14 2010 20:31 corumjhaelen wrote: Stork playing as though he's scared. Man, you're PvP is not that bad, you need more confidence.
I think hes just happy to take his third and out macro.
That's true, but I also think he could live without giving free shots to his opponent or stuff like that. Maybe I'm still sad about that proxy robo on Benzene or something. Really solid play though, but nothing would make me happier than to see Stork winning a league again, and his Achille's heel still seems to be PvP (well, his PvZ is... unpredictable I'd say, but pretty good).
true, except his PvP used to be some of the best/the best at times, it's only more recently that it's his weaker MU, used to be his PvZ that was weaker imo
Yes I agree, remember when he manhandeld Bisu then Best who was on a 16 PvP win streak. Even the MSL final he lost against Bisu shows how awesome he used to be at the match up. <3 Stork
Stork was actually the favorite against Bisu in GTV2 I think. Best, Bisu and Stork all kinda lost their godly PvP skill of old to be honest. That or other protoss got better.
Yes he was. Sad he plays bad against mediocre players now, but still can play very good against some Ps from the top.
On December 14 2010 20:41 structuralinertia wrote:
On December 14 2010 20:38 corumjhaelen wrote:
On December 14 2010 20:34 ShadeR wrote:
On December 14 2010 20:31 corumjhaelen wrote: Stork playing as though he's scared. Man, you're PvP is not that bad, you need more confidence.
I think hes just happy to take his third and out macro.
That's true, but I also think he could live without giving free shots to his opponent or stuff like that. Maybe I'm still sad about that proxy robo on Benzene or something. Really solid play though, but nothing would make me happier than to see Stork winning a league again, and his Achille's heel still seems to be PvP (well, his PvZ is... unpredictable I'd say, but pretty good).
true, except his PvP used to be some of the best/the best at times, it's only more recently that it's his weaker MU, used to be his PvZ that was weaker imo
Yes I agree, remember when he manhandeld Bisu then Best who was on a 16 PvP win streak. Even the MSL final he lost against Bisu shows how awesome he used to be at the match up. <3 Stork
Stork was actually the favorite against Bisu in GTV2 I think. Best, Bisu and Stork all kinda lost their godly PvP skill of old to be honest. That or other protoss got better.
I'm not sure, but Bisu was clearly not a pushover either. I think PvP favours a lot strong mechanics nowadays, especially on those larger macro heavy maps, and so that it's harder for slow Sork or harass heavy Bisu to dominate. I also think that on more technical maps, in series, they would probably be better. For Best, he's just not what he used to be anymore, no matter how you look at it. ZvZ Hydra vs ... ?
yeah Bisu and Stork would dominate other Ps in BOX series, its these bo1s that get them
Chavi on the move with his lings, he has an overlord floating at Hydra's nat
Lings engage! Ohhh looks like Hydra will hold, Chavi backs off with his lings, spire finished for Hydra, he has an overlord there so he knows the timing, no spire yet from Chavi
He's just starting his spire, Hydra with his mutas out. Chavi trying his lings once more, but they all die
On December 14 2010 20:58 ShadeR wrote: Rather hydra than shine LOL.
THIS
STOP HATING ON SHINE
No I don't hate him. I just dislike him. But if you asked me to choose between Hydra and Shine, I prefer Hydra. I'm sure there are some players you dislike more than others.
On December 14 2010 20:58 ShadeR wrote: Rather hydra than shine LOL.
THIS
STOP HATING ON SHINE
No I don't hate him. I just dislike him. But if you asked me to choose between Hydra and Shine, I prefer Hydra. I'm sure there are some players you dislike more than others.
Stop disliking on Shine?!
Wait a minute the "on" doesn't even work there oh well.
On December 14 2010 20:57 Fenrax wrote: Wasn't it 9pool vs. 12 Hatch for Chavi?
Or was it 12pool?
9 pool for Chavi and 12 hatch for Hydra I think, not entirely sure. did anyone else catch the opening?
I didn't catch it 100%, too, but that's what I thought. But then what went wrong for Chavi?
Well although the replay didn't show the openings it did show that first battle, Chavi didn't micro his lings very well, some of his lings were running in the background. Then he decided to make nothing but lings haha
So many interesting and potentially important games tonight! Hopefully we get to see another aggressive TvT like that other match that I just watched a while ago!
On December 14 2010 20:57 Fenrax wrote: Wasn't it 9pool vs. 12 Hatch for Chavi?
Or was it 12pool?
9 pool for Chavi and 12 hatch for Hydra I think, not entirely sure. did anyone else catch the opening?
I didn't catch it 100%, too, but that's what I thought. But then what went wrong for Chavi?
Well although the replay didn't show the openings it did show that first battle, Chavi didn't micro his lings very well, some of his lings were running in the background. Then he decided to make nothing but lings haha
Leta!
No, I meant, why didn't he run his initial 6 Lings into Hydras natural and/or main to cause havoc.
Turn sending his scout first, in the right direction with his cross map scouting. Turn starting his CC right after hid depot
Leta opting for his rax first before he starts his cc in his main. Turn getting his rax on now. Fact for Turn as Leta floats his rax over to his main. Leta also starting his fact.
Leta's scv arrives at Turn's base only to be met with marine gun fire
Starport for Turn Both players take have their nats up and running now. Leta adding machine shop and fact (three in total). Turn getting his second fact
Leta getting his fourth factory. Wraith out for Turn, it beings hitting Leta's floating rax. Turn walling off with some depots. Turn has two tanks guarding that wall. Leta's vultures can't do anything right now so they back off. Armory and acadamy started for Leta.
Mines finished for Leta and he starts littering the map with them. DS out for Turn, his wraith is in Leta's main sniping an scv. Goliath comes out and the wraith gets out without taking much damage
Third cc being constructed in leta's main, wraith dies to goliath missles. Turn dropping some scvs and taking the 3 o'clock expo
Turn scans ahead of the tanks as they move out and find some mines, they make short work of them before the scan wears off.
Turn has three dropships now, his 3 o'clock expo is up and running, looks like Leta is preparing 12 right now before his CC arrives there.
DS on the move, he has four in total, ohh they pass over a mine, leta notices. DS drops tanks/goliaths, leta responds quickly with his own units. Small battle ensues, turn still has three tanks there. Leta moves his units forward and takes them out
turn is attacking leta's 8 with some tanks, he also has a group of scvs (probably taking 7)
Leta planting more mines around the map. Some of turn's tanks walk into some, they take damage but none die.
Turn's dropships on the move again, they move directly into the main, tanks seige up. Leta's army isn't too far, they seige up too, tanks explode on both sides. SCVs pulled as more tanks explode. Leta cleans up that attack
DS on the move yet again, vultures see it though, goliaths attacking the dropships!
Turn takes 8 o clock, vultures raid the expo, tanks at 7 protect the running scvs though
DS moving up north and heading towards Leta's main, Leta has drop ships of his own. Turn's DS spotted by Leta, he drops anyway. Ohhh unsuccessful attack from turn, he loses his units and dropships.
Vultures attacking some of Turn's tanks now, Leta just a-moving his units. Turn has some seige tanks set up in the middle though, currently stopping and advancements from Leta.
Leta moves his vults to check 1, nothing there though. They lay mines there just incase
Leta decides to do a drop of his own and hits 7, it's a large drop, nothing there to protect that expo except for a lone tank. scvs running out of there, Turn moves his army towards leta's main, he's given up his 7.
He's also losing his 8 as SCVs scramble out of there. Leta picks up his units at 8 with DS and is sending them to 6 where he stops Turn's cc from landing, expo denied.
Turn started with such an advantage (14CC, delayed rax, blocked 3 fac vulture attack, got his 3rd way faster) and then proceeded to suicide units in every way imaginable. Turn showing ggaemo he's better at minecraft.
Leta has about three move facts than Turn, Turn looks like he might mine out soon if he doesn't secure an expo
Turn moves his army to retake 7 and 8. Leta has a cc placed at 8 which is burning. Turn sends his units to 6 where he will secure his expo
Leta attacking 5.5 though, a lot of scvs dying there, cc goes down too. Leta taking another expo
Turn retaking 7 and 8 judgin from the mini-map
Leta advances on 6 where Turn loses his CC, he retaliates with his three dropships and hits 12. He loses one to a turret. Not many units dropped, leta responds by dropping his own units, which is wipes out that poor attack.
turn ggs. those 2 drops in letas main cost him the game. he seemed to be ahead at that stage. but just gave away about 8 dropships worth of units for nothing
On December 14 2010 21:35 Doraemon wrote: turn ggs. those 2 drops in letas main cost him the game. he seemed to be ahead at that stage. but just gave away about 8 dropships worth of units for nothing
I agree, those attacks didn't achieve much. Double edged sword, his impatience that is.
On December 14 2010 21:35 Doraemon wrote: turn ggs. those 2 drops in letas main cost him the game. he seemed to be ahead at that stage. but just gave away about 8 dropships worth of units for nothing
Including most of his dropships ... At this time he had about 8 and Leta about 3-4 ... But all but one got destroyed by these not-so-clever attacks...
On December 14 2010 21:35 Doraemon wrote: turn ggs. those 2 drops in letas main cost him the game. he seemed to be ahead at that stage. but just gave away about 8 dropships worth of units for nothing
I agree, those attacks didn't achieve much. Double edged sword, his impatience that is.
On December 14 2010 21:31 LichtgestaltSC wrote: Seems like crucial mines turned the tide in Leta´s favor... Turn was ahead but now I think Leta´s on a roll...
it seems to me that Turn's 2 suicide drops were what TurNed the tide of the game T_T
On December 14 2010 21:31 LichtgestaltSC wrote: Seems like crucial mines turned the tide in Leta´s favor... Turn was ahead but now I think Leta´s on a roll...
it seems to me that Turn's 2 suicide drops were what TurNed the tide of the game T_T
Of course that had to do something with Turns loss ... But as the mines softened up Turn´s army on the way to its location, Leta had a way easier time defeating the already halfdead army...
Pool first for Great, Movie opts for FFE Great placing his second pool where his third should be (at 1) Pair of zerglings pop and chase that probe around the main
Movie placing his first cannon down, then his nex. Meanwhile a drone morphs into a hatch at Great's nat
Overlord sits in Movies main, stargate started, Lair finished for Great, ling run by, cannon down Lings running around the nat avoiding the zealot. Goon pops just in time, forces the zerglings out.
Movie going dual stargates. Great places his fourth hatch in his nat
Sair out, spire is already finished, den in the making. Zergling numbers are building outside Movie's nat January squints her eyes as she watches the game.
Sair hit by with a single scourge and dodges the other. Core spinning, movie places a cannon in his main for some insurance. Reaver tech incoming
Hydras en route to Movies base, movie only has two cannons there, he places a third, sairs knock out some OLs.
Hydras move in a take down a cannon. Reaver pops at the nat. Great moving in with his lings and hydras, reaver dies instantly! Probes pulled to help fight
Probes dying left and right, cannons and gate goes down. Hydras all up in Movies nat
can't really complain about hydra burst in this game, movie's build weakness was ground troops (hydra+ling), since you spent so much money on sairs you get very few ground troops
On December 14 2010 21:51 _Quasar_ wrote: turn should have got vessel X_X it would've saved him more resource than he lost on mines
How about comsat?
It didn't save him. X_X You can't always comsat any single place where you go.
It didn't save him because he didn't use it. There really is no need to waste several hundred gas on vessels in TvT (where gas has to be used for tanks) unless it's a BC war and you need EMP. When you have 4 CC's and you know that there are mindfields you can most certainly scan in key locations and avoid the most unneccesary losses.
Tank out for Reality, SH laying mines at the bridge near Reality's base
split screen between stork and leta.
Reality adds two more facts (total of 4). SH kind of has reality contained with mines. SH adding two facts too (total of 4 as well). SH sets up his seige tanks where his mines are set up near Reality's bridges.
Reality scans and removes some mines, tanks from both sides seige, shots fired no tanks die. REality has no sight on the tanks as SH has higher ground.
wraith out for Reality, it's shooting the rax down. Wraith also gives sight to SH's units. SH not budging from his position though. Reality runs in some vults but it's no good.
Reality's dropship drops a vult at SH's nat, dropship moves on and drops another vult in the main. then drops another vult at SH's third.
Can't tell how much damage has been done, not too much I think Reality starting to break out of that contain, SH bringing in more units though Reality's rax almost burns down, he floats his cc to take his third at 11.5
SH getting his own starport. He also starts a CC at 6 Reality inching forward with his tanks, he now has the higher ground. He runs vults in to lay mines and take hits while his tanks remove a few of SH's.
CC started at 5 for SH, but a vult kills the scv.
Single wraith hitting on Reality's tanks. SCV repairing though, wraith runs away when Reality brings his own.
Reality has a built up an army of tanks and vults, he descends on SH who has his tanks split, both players losing a lot of units, both still holding their initial positions though.
Reality looking to take 12, SH keeps re-enforcing his position with more units, both players mains have factories everywhere.
Reality secures 12, SH takes 4. SH positions his tanks on the right side of 12 where he can shell the minerals.
Realities dropship runs into two turrets which blow it out of the sky, but not before it drops two vults. REality makes his move, his vults and tanks move in on SH who has spread his tanks. Reality loses a lot of units.
SH continues to harass Reality's 12. SH has made three starports in his main, he has a small army of wraiths built up
On December 14 2010 22:25 mevshero wrote: god.... worst tvt i've seen in a while
let me correct... worst match overall i've seen in a while... this was horrible. skyhigh went lucky playing a matchup in which he doesn't get destoyed by b-teamers..
On December 14 2010 22:25 mevshero wrote: god.... worst tvt i've seen in a while
let me correct... worst match overall i've seen in a while... this was horrible. skyhigh went lucky playing a matchup in which he doesn't get destoyed by b-teamers..
His vT is S class and he played very well, so it was certainly not a bad game -.-
On December 14 2010 22:29 Ryo wrote: Disappointed with January. I haven't heard about Reality being any practice house bonjwa. Why keeping playing him.
Brave woud've crushed skyhigh cause he sucks in every matchup besides tvt and then stork would've crushed leta in ace. i dont know why let reality play, too.
On December 14 2010 22:29 Ryo wrote: Disappointed with January. I haven't heard about Reality being any practice house bonjwa. Why keeping playing him.
Brave woud've crushed skyhigh cause he sucks in every matchup besides tvt and then stork would've crushed leta in ace. i dont know why let reality play, too.
Does january have other better players than reality ?
On December 14 2010 22:29 Ryo wrote: Disappointed with January. I haven't heard about Reality being any practice house bonjwa. Why keeping playing him.
Brave woud've crushed skyhigh cause he sucks in every matchup besides tvt and then stork would've crushed leta in ace. i dont know why let reality play, too.
She probably thought they would send out Horang2 so Reality was sent to snipe him? But Reality's only ever played one televised TvP and he lost that one. Horang2's PvP is great but not invincible. Jaehoon (worst match-up is PvP) beat him and Brave's PvP is good so it makes no sense.
On December 14 2010 22:40 Fenrax wrote: Afaik players are chosen before the series starts.
Excuse me for asking, but this has been bugging me for a while. How do you know? Because, afaik, there has been no definite confirmation either way. Rather, the fact that the coaches send in little notes before every game seems to imply that they chose during the series. But like I said, I have yet to see anyone post proof for any theory.
On December 14 2010 22:29 Ryo wrote: Disappointed with January. I haven't heard about Reality being any practice house bonjwa. Why keeping playing him.
Brave woud've crushed skyhigh cause he sucks in every matchup besides tvt and then stork would've crushed leta in ace. i dont know why let reality play, too.
Does january have other better players than reality ?
brave. If Samsung runs a lineup without Stork, brave, TurN, or great, then January probably made a mistake.
On December 14 2010 22:40 Fenrax wrote: Afaik players are chosen before the series starts.
Excuse me for asking, but this has been bugging me for a while. How do you know? Because, afaik, there has been no definite confirmation either way. Rather, the fact that the coaches send in little notes before every game seems to imply that they chose during the series. But like I said, I have yet to see anyone post proof for any theory.
Yes, I´m wondering about this as well. I´ve heard both ways now in about equal numbers... Someone with definite information about this ?
I have always been under the impression that the selections are not given to a ref beforehand and then slowly revealed, hence why they do the scrap of paper thing. Of course, most teams have specific players preparing for specific maps only, so it might as well be pre-determined, but IIRC it's not, officially.
On December 14 2010 22:29 Ryo wrote: Disappointed with January. I haven't heard about Reality being any practice house bonjwa. Why keeping playing him.
Brave woud've crushed skyhigh cause he sucks in every matchup besides tvt and then stork would've crushed leta in ace. i dont know why let reality play, too.
Does january have other better players than reality ?
On December 14 2010 22:40 Fenrax wrote: Afaik players are chosen before the series starts.
Excuse me for asking, but this has been bugging me for a while. How do you know? Because, afaik, there has been no definite confirmation either way. Rather, the fact that the coaches send in little notes before every game seems to imply that they chose during the series. But like I said, I have yet to see anyone post proof for any theory.
i think generally coaches plan out their lineups beforehand (it's better to have a player practice on 1 map for a while then all maps for a little bit), but they are allowed to send whoever they want to right before the match starts. i have no idea how that rumor started that all the lineups are exactly like it was before but they just dont publish them, but it's wrong. multiple player interviews (saying that they hadnt practiced on the map or werent expecting player X to show up) have confirmed it (as well as how it was described when the change was announced ffs).
On December 14 2010 22:29 Ryo wrote: Disappointed with January. I haven't heard about Reality being any practice house bonjwa. Why keeping playing him.
Brave woud've crushed skyhigh cause he sucks in every matchup besides tvt and then stork would've crushed leta in ace. i dont know why let reality play, too.
Does january have other better players than reality ?
brave. If Samsung runs a lineup without Stork, brave, TurN, or great, then January probably made a mistake.
January knows a lot more about the players performance than we do. She gets to see how they are performing in practice this week, on successful they are on certain maps and against certain matchups. I know people like to blame January for not sending x player, but its not as if it didn't occur to her to consider it.
On December 14 2010 22:29 Ryo wrote: Disappointed with January. I haven't heard about Reality being any practice house bonjwa. Why keeping playing him.
Brave woud've crushed skyhigh cause he sucks in every matchup besides tvt and then stork would've crushed leta in ace. i dont know why let reality play, too.
Does january have other better players than reality ?
brave. If Samsung runs a lineup without Stork, brave, TurN, or great, then January probably made a mistake.
January knows a lot more about the players performance than we do. She gets to see how they are performing in practice this week, on successful they are on certain maps and against certain matchups. I know people like to blame January for not sending x player, but its not as if it didn't occur to her to consider it.
In general, I agree with this, but those are the only four players on Khan who have been performing at all this season. I don't understand the purpose of sending players who have repeatedly performed poorly over people who have won literally 3-4 times as many games, especially when the team currently has a losing record.
On December 14 2010 22:29 Ryo wrote: Disappointed with January. I haven't heard about Reality being any practice house bonjwa. Why keeping playing him.
Brave woud've crushed skyhigh cause he sucks in every matchup besides tvt and then stork would've crushed leta in ace. i dont know why let reality play, too.
Does january have other better players than reality ?
brave. If Samsung runs a lineup without Stork, brave, TurN, or great, then January probably made a mistake.
January knows a lot more about the players performance than we do. She gets to see how they are performing in practice this week, on successful they are on certain maps and against certain matchups. I know people like to blame January for not sending x player, but its not as if it didn't occur to her to consider it.
You know, a lot of the time I put this into account. But January sent Jangbi to die against Sea in an ace match when Stork would've probably won. That is one of the most questionable coaching decisions I've seen. If Khan was doing well, I'd give January more credit. But I think her coaching just isn't too great.
Stop blaming the coach for sending out the players. I am pretty sure that JangBi does well in practice (Stork says that JangBi's record is better than his in multiple interviews) and TurN just lost to Leta cuz of not enough experience, I mean Flash was known to be a fairly aggressive player back in his debut and then only practice for his monstrous macro (I am saying this cuz TurN seems to be a good position against Leta but only failed in the macro department). Well I am actually pretty happy cuz Stork won! lol
On December 15 2010 12:33 Xiphos wrote: Stop blaming the coach for sending out the players. I am pretty sure that JangBi does well in practice (Stork says that JangBi's record is better than his in multiple interviews) and TurN just lost to Leta cuz of not enough experience, I mean Flash was known to be a fairly aggressive player back in his debut and then only practice for his monstrous macro (I am saying this cuz TurN seems to be a good position against Leta but only failed in the macro department). Well I am actually pretty happy cuz Stork won! lol
Brave's record in PL this season: 7-1
Chavi's record in PL this season: 1-4 Jangbi's record in PL this season: 2-9 Reality's record in PL this season: 3-5
Are you really telling me that all of the bottom three have more potential and/or are more likely to win games than Brave?
On December 15 2010 12:33 Xiphos wrote: Stop blaming the coach for sending out the players. I am pretty sure that JangBi does well in practice (Stork says that JangBi's record is better than his in multiple interviews) and TurN just lost to Leta cuz of not enough experience, I mean Flash was known to be a fairly aggressive player back in his debut and then only practice for his monstrous macro (I am saying this cuz TurN seems to be a good position against Leta but only failed in the macro department). Well I am actually pretty happy cuz Stork won! lol
Brave's record in PL this season: 7-1
Chavi's record in PL this season: 1-4 Jangbi's record in PL this season: 2-9 Reality's record in PL this season: 3-5
Are you really telling me that all of the bottom three have more potential and/or are more likely to win games than Brave?
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