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On December 13 2010 02:14 BlackMagister wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2010 02:03 Ryo wrote:On December 13 2010 00:03 BlackMagister wrote:On December 12 2010 20:49 Ryo wrote:On December 12 2010 15:53 BlackMagister wrote:On December 12 2010 15:32 Ryo wrote:On December 12 2010 15:28 Zona wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Related to other match] +
hite climbs to 2nd place with this win!
I don't think this was the team that SKT should have experimented against...
But then again round 2 is probably the best time to train your rising potentials
Which is why I was rooting for SKT... + Show Spoiler +Had SKT won, MBC would be 2nd place! I would think you would still root against SKT as they're the first place team unless you're content to just fight over 2nd place. Sure first place would be nice but right now all the teams are bunched up together. It is in MBC's interest that their closest rivals lose to SKT, making it easier to secure a play-off spot. If other teams beat SKT, it puts even more pressure on MBC to do the same or face dropping down the league rankings. I'll worry about first place after they've pulled away from the bottom 6 teams. Are Playoff next month? This is only Round 2 all the teams have a long way to go before worrying about playoffs. Every match counts towards the overall placing at the end of the season. That's the whole point of proleague. I don't know what your issue is when you're the one who brought up the idea of being "content to just fight over 2nd place". If you want first place then hoping that SKT1 loses would seem most logical as SKT1 is in first place by a lot at the moment. If SKT1 keeps winning it secures their first place spot. Other teams that want first place should want all the other teams to do about the same making it easier to rise to the top, if one team consistently dominates like SKT1 is doing than first place should be hard to achieve. However if you don't care about getting first place than cheering for them to beat every other team besides your favorite is fine. I understand that all these games matter, I just don't understand why you would care about 2nd ranking placing so early on in the season unless that's your long term goal.
If you worry about playoffs only during the closing rounds, then you have alot of hard work before you and there's a high chance for you to fail to make it. Actually aiming for 2nd place makes alot of sense in PL format since 2nd place gets a bye to the semi-finals while 3rd-6th place have to duke it out in basically an Ro16.
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this the problem with finished LR threads .. Fanboys arguing blindly ..
its still B-teamers though, not to disregard Hite's A-Teamers, its just that if the coach wanted to really win the match he could have sent the best player of his team.
but im not implying that SKT = autowin ..
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On December 13 2010 12:37 aimaimaim wrote:
this the problem with finished LR threads .. Fanboys arguing blindly ..
its still B-teamers though, not to disregard Hite's A-Teamers, its just that if the coach wanted to really win the match he could have sent the best player of his team.
but im not implying that SKT = autowin ..
Yes, as you said, Fanboys arguing blindly and that´s what you are doing!
It just wasn´t SKT´s B-Team! At least three out of the four players (excluding Sun) are fielded in most of SKT´s series, if not even all of them. Since when does Fantasy belong to the B-Team ?
It´s a difference between not sending the best player (bisu) of your A-Team in the first four matches and sending a B-Team. And by saying it was SKT´s B-Players you´re trying to take away the meaning for CJ´s win.
--> Your A-Team got swept before its best player was fielded ! That is all.
And as others already said, on Hite also remained good players. Snow, Hogil and Horang2.
--> Just to remind you, Horang2 has over 70% PvP ! It´s (statistically) better than Bests ans Bisus.
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On December 13 2010 17:31 LichtgestaltSC wrote:Since when does Fantasy belong to the B-Team ?
Well he probably belongs on the B team the 20% of the time he decides to do some awful failed build that doesn't work.
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Well he probably belongs on the B team the 20% of the time he decides to do some awful failed build that doesn't work.
Again, the build itself would have been really strong against 12 Nex and other FEs as can be expected from Protoss on the map. Unfortunately for Fantasy, Movie did open with fast aggression and his build couldn´t defend good enough.
As I already mentioned in another post, had Movie gone for a 12 Nex and therefor lost to that exact build by Fantasy, every SKT-fan would praise Fantasy´s strategy!
By the same logic, Bisu isn´t a B-Team-Member because he´s playing against shine...
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On December 13 2010 17:31 LichtgestaltSC wrote:
And as others already said, on Hite also remained good players. Snow, Hogil and Horang2.
--> Just to remind you, Horang2 has over 70% PvP ! It´s (statistically) better than Bests ans Bisus.
Wow and Sun is 100% at PvZ but maybe when they play more games they will drop those a lil'. And it doesn't mean that Sun can take down Jaedong 
Besides Bisu/Best can still lose but they win most of the times this season so they are the main reason SKT T1 is #1 currently.
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Wow and Sun is 100% at PvZ but maybe when they play more games they will drop those a lil'. And it doesn't mean that Sun can take down Jaedong
Besides Bisu/Best can still lose but they win most of the times this season so they are the main reason SKT T1 is #1 currently.
Maybe ... just maybe this comparison isn´t really that good, but of course I know what is meant. And I would have agreed you before I looked up the stats for horang2 a while ago*.
Sun is 1-0 in PvZ. The number of games played just isn´t quite high enough to judge him correctly I feel ;-)
On the other hand, Horang2 ist 24-10 in his PvP, which are actually quite some games you´ve got to admit. On the other hand of course, I know that best and bisu have doule/4x more PvPs played and still high PvP stats. Something I don´t see Horang2 having after having played that number of games. Still I don´t expect him to drop to 30% ...
*I did this because I don´t like him and his style and I had such a hard time rooting for him (like I have with hogil as well)
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Blah blah blah, Fantasy sucked too during his firstest games.
Gotta build from somewhere. Stomping hite in the process woulda been sadistic and sweet.
Too bad.
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In 1st round Fanta also lost to Movie and it just repeated Seems like Movie has Fanta's number and will continue to snipe him this season.
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