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Adr4melecH
Thailand667 Posts
On December 12 2010 18:33 Lightwip wrote: Yes they are. You don't know the opposing lineup until a few minutes before starting though. Only ace match isn't predetermined. It's chosen when the time comes. I see. The leta vs sun match-up while SKT are down 0-3 makes sense now. Thanks for the fast respond! | ||
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Emon_
3925 Posts
Both Skyhigh and Movie putting the hurt on SKT and their lack of Bisu/Best. One small step for Hentus in R2, hopefully they will do well in Winners League (Pull it together, Leta!) | ||
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/EOLsI.jpg) Hey look, frotoss with almost no fro! anyways | ||
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neotoss
China217 Posts
On December 12 2010 14:48 Jackle wrote: What's with all the people complaining about Sun before Bisu/Best. Since Fantasy failed to pull off a win, they needed a 3rd win to send it to ace. What's the point of playing Bisu/Best only to lose in the 6th set. The coaches obviously sent the player they felt would perform the best on that map apart from star trio. This. | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9500 Posts
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On December 12 2010 15:53 BlackMagister wrote: I would think you would still root against SKT as they're the first place team unless you're content to just fight over 2nd place. Sure first place would be nice but right now all the teams are bunched up together. It is in MBC's interest that their closest rivals lose to SKT, making it easier to secure a play-off spot. If other teams beat SKT, it puts even more pressure on MBC to do the same or face dropping down the league rankings. I'll worry about first place after they've pulled away from the bottom 6 teams. | ||
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SkyLegenD
United States304 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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EliteReplay
Dominican Republic913 Posts
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Simplistik
2005 Posts
On December 12 2010 18:33 Lightwip wrote: Yes they are. You don't know the opposing lineup until a few minutes before starting though. Only ace match isn't predetermined. It's chosen when the time comes. Lightwip, could you please point me to where you got that information from? I've been wondering about this for a while, but so far I've been unable to verify it. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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MisteR
Netherlands595 Posts
On December 12 2010 21:39 Simplistik wrote: Lightwip, could you please point me to where you got that information from? I've been wondering about this for a while, but so far I've been unable to verify it. I've heard this story before but I've yet to see evidence. I think that it's a misunderstanding grown from the sudden change from a predetermined lineup to an unpredetermined one. There are no rules, as far as we know, that force the teams to predetermine their lineups. Rather, the matchups are decided on the spot, and the coaches send in little notes with their choice. That the coaches often do predetermine their lineups is their own business, but is not compulsory. Correct me if I'm wrong, though. | ||
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Hazard
Norway594 Posts
But it is a long season and it could play out big in PO's when all roster players have experience.I doubt team coaches know who they send their players against before us and By.Sun was sent to get a PvP which he didn't get. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On December 12 2010 22:16 MisteR wrote: I've heard this story before but I've yet to see evidence. I think that it's a misunderstanding grown from the sudden change from a predetermined lineup to an unpredetermined one. There are no rules, as far as we know, that force the teams to predetermine their lineups. Rather, the matchups are decided on the spot, and the coaches send in little notes with their choice. That the coaches often do predetermine their lineups is their own business, but is not compulsory. Correct me if I'm wrong, though. When the change happened last year, what I understood from the translated article was that the lineups were still predetermined, and that the referee was the only one to know both. | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On December 12 2010 21:22 SkyLegenD wrote: Man what the hell was Coach Park thinking sending 3/4 scrubs to play Hite. Where the hell was Bisu, Best and Kwanro? Kwanro's not gotten much playtime - and he hasn't done real well. BeSt's rumored to be sick. Bisu was probably being saved. 1st game: Fortress is heavily T>Z but also heavily Z>P at the moment - but a little bit P>T. Leta's been struggling with his TvZ this season and sKyHigh... just isn't good at it most of the time. More bad luck than anything that this didn't work for SKT. 2nd game: Benzene's a solid Zerg map (though Bisu's played here and won too) and soo's been SKT's best Zerg so far. hite largely doesn't play well against Zerg (Hydra's the exception) - so more bad luck. 3rd game: fantasy lost to Movie. Can't put that on the coach. 4th game: I'm not sure about this. I would have but Bisu out here and Sun on the (far more P-favored) Aztec. But Bisu and Sun were probably the best players SKT had left (assuming BeSt was out), while Entus had Leta (obviously), Horang2, HoGiL, and Snow left. If Sun had been focusing practice on EotS, and Bisu on Aztec, then Coach Park probably thought the win was more likely sticking with the plan than switching "just" because he was down 0-3. TL;DR: This season s2's the only "scrub" of the players who got sent last night, and even he's got a winning record. | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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Simplistik
2005 Posts
On December 12 2010 23:07 corumjhaelen wrote: When the change happened last year, what I understood from the translated article was that the lineups were still predetermined, and that the referee was the only one to know both. Now if you could point to some piece of writing somewhere that confirms it that would be great! | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
On December 12 2010 20:49 Ryo wrote: Sure first place would be nice but right now all the teams are bunched up together. It is in MBC's interest that their closest rivals lose to SKT, making it easier to secure a play-off spot. If other teams beat SKT, it puts even more pressure on MBC to do the same or face dropping down the league rankings. I'll worry about first place after they've pulled away from the bottom 6 teams. Are Playoff next month? This is only Round 2 all the teams have a long way to go before worrying about playoffs. | ||
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garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On December 13 2010 00:03 BlackMagister wrote: Are Playoff next month? This is only Round 2 all the teams have a long way to go before worrying about playoffs. Every match counts towards the overall placing at the end of the season. That's the whole point of proleague. I don't know what your issue is when you're the one who brought up the idea of being "content to just fight over 2nd place". | ||
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