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[SPL] STX SouL vs. Woongjin Stars - Page 16

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Cheeseburgered
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States716 Posts
November 16 2010 11:29 GMT
#301
damn, I was expecting this to still be going when I woke up and i see 4-0 O_O
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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 16 2010 11:51 GMT
#302
Losing to Stars isn't a shame. Losing to Stars 4-0 could already qualify as one, but I'm not mad at Stars. STX though... What can I do to make the pain go away?
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
DJONES
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States218 Posts
November 16 2010 11:59 GMT
#303
On November 16 2010 20:23 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 20:16 DJONES wrote:
On November 16 2010 19:51 thopol wrote:
On November 16 2010 19:39 DJONES wrote:
On November 16 2010 19:34 thopol wrote:
Well I'm not too concerned about this 4-0. Stars played quite well and there was also a lot of chance involved. Not like they were lucky wins, not at all, but STX players didn't lose on bad play as much as getting unlucky.

EDIT: Hyvaa played badly.


Hate to break it to you, but none of that was luck.

Pretty standard play in every game of the series.

Woonjin just outclassed STX.


Basically what I'm talking about is: 1) the relatively blind attack choice by Zero in game 1. It was totally skilled, but had Kal made different choices (not better, different), he would have held that attack easily. 2) The two hatchery snipes in game 2 were very very close. Situations where if Calm had moved his units just a second earlier it would have changed the outcome. 3) Smaller things, like not quite bringing the sunk down in game 3 or in game 4 moving the marines back from behind the mineral line just as the shuttle is coming in with its reaver. Building the starport by the obs in the top right in game 4 was kinda stupid I think, so that doesn't fit in, but we're talking situational problems more than bad decision making or play.

Like I said, they weren't lucky wins, but there were unlucky situations for our boys out there that certainly contributed to costing STX the match. The point was that there wasn't bad play, just unfortunate situations that were largely beyond either player's control to decide.


"Relatively blind" ?

Zero had scourge scouting the whole game.

After Kal suicided his whole zealot force into the expo at 5, it was a pretty easy decision to mass hydras and attempt a break.

Had Kal not suicided his lots, he probably could have held off Zero's attack.

Indeed it is very "unlucky" that Woonjin played well, and STX played poorly.


Zero's build blind countered Kal's build, both of which were decided by the time the Scourge got any sort of scouting information.


Standard 3 hatch spire -> 5 hatch hydra...it's not like it was some sort of specialized hard-counter.
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
November 16 2010 12:56 GMT
#304
I was wondering why the LR was so short.
Then I checked the results.
Ouch.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
November 16 2010 13:46 GMT
#305
When i saw the spoiler of lineups I was already O____o

When I saw results it made made me go O____________________O

Didn't expect that onesidedness from this match.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 16 2010 14:13 GMT
#306
Congratulations Star
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Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 15:56:07
November 16 2010 15:22 GMT
#307
Wow this was unexpected o.o . I even feel bad for Stx and their fans :/
Edit: fffffff stars are going to be really expensive for FPL
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
November 16 2010 16:17 GMT
#308
...ouch
boomer hands
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
November 16 2010 16:41 GMT
#309
Oh wtf stx. When one person fails all of you have to fail? I expected you to at least go down with a fight!
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 17:22:29
November 16 2010 17:16 GMT
#310
Can't bealive STX is failing so much . Kal , Shuttle , Calm , Hero and Classic is a pretty good line - up . Classic in my opinion is a lot better then Frozean especially in TvP . He could have taken a game off Free . Calm keeps failing while in the past he racked up 40 + wins easily in a season . They could have attempted to snipe SoulKey with Modesty .
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
November 16 2010 17:24 GMT
#311
11 50 신한은행 프로리그 1011 1R (웅진 vs STX) 21
12 55 신한은행 프로리그 1011 1R (공군 vs 위메이드) LIVE 22


So it looks like they're gonna replay this series an hour before tonight's games. I'll stream if I remember.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
November 16 2010 20:12 GMT
#312
Stars not gonna be 3 points anymore hahaha
Hazard
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway594 Posts
November 16 2010 20:32 GMT
#313
Zero's ZvP is solid - I still remember when he surprised Bisu with queens and sniped all his HTs. Well 4-0 is unexpected here really but Stars are on a roll under this new format.
"Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
November 16 2010 22:28 GMT
#314
On November 17 2010 05:32 Hazard wrote:
Zero's ZvP is solid godlike - I still remember when he surprised Bisu with queens and sniped all his HTs. Well 4-0 is unexpected here really but Stars are on a roll under this new format.

Writer
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
November 17 2010 01:56 GMT
#315
Holy shit. 4-0. And all the main lineup won, too. Hot damn! Still wish Calm would have won a game...

So in PL, it's pretty much:
1. SKT
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2. Stars
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??? Clusterfuck
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dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
November 17 2010 01:58 GMT
#316
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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
November 17 2010 02:21 GMT
#317
Influx of Stars icons makes me happy . When Realpenguin started afking it was just me and Grobyc for awhile
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
November 17 2010 02:40 GMT
#318
On November 17 2010 11:21 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Influx of Stars icons makes me happy . When Realpenguin started afking it was just me and Grobyc for awhile



This makes me feel bad for lurking so long and depriving TL of another Stars icon lol
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
November 17 2010 03:32 GMT
#319
On November 17 2010 11:21 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Influx of Stars icons makes me happy . When Realpenguin started afking it was just me and Grobyc for awhile

I liked stars before liking stars was cool
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
November 17 2010 03:34 GMT
#320
I liked Stars before liking Stars was cool too
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