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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
November 12 2010 12:42 GMT
#581
On November 12 2010 21:41 Garrl wrote:
Fantasy didn't play all that well imo, Hyun just didn't tech to lurks fast enough and stayed on lair too long.


But he went 2 hatch so his economy was bad anyway and since fantasy went 4 rax pressure there was nothing hyun could do but continue to mass lair tech. If he tried to tech to hive he'd be short on units and be rolled over on the spot.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 12:43:23
November 12 2010 12:42 GMT
#582
On November 12 2010 21:41 Garrl wrote:
Fantasy didn't play all that well imo, Hyun just didn't tech to lurks fast enough and stayed on lair too long.

exactly my thoughts. and I am Fantasy fan.
well not exactly, but I think fantasys play wasnt that good.
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
November 12 2010 12:42 GMT
#583
A very sloopy game by both sides, Fanta lost a ton of idle marine while Hyun let marines take free shots at his mutas, culminating in one of the ugliest lurker attack of all time.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1977 Posts
November 12 2010 12:43 GMT
#584
I think Hyun would've been better just letting his 3rd get sacked and playing it off with 2-3 defilers - Fantasy wasn't teching AT ALL - he didn't have any vessels, so filers would've been incredibly potent.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 12 2010 12:43 GMT
#585
On November 12 2010 21:41 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 21:39 Grobyc wrote:
fantasy's bio control aint half bad this game. i think he been practicing

what? he let way too marines die early becouse they were crippled. his attack on the lurkers were quite ok tho.
but hyun really fucked up that one attack.

well we'll never know for sure but it looked like fantasy did position his units in case the lurkerling rushed in - after all fantasy did see all the lurkers at hyun's nat just moments ago when he turned away and decided to siege the 3rd instead

but yeah fantasy did leave a lot of his rines early on alone/isolated where they were easily picked off
still, an improvement is an improvement
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
November 12 2010 12:44 GMT
#586
no scv kills with the mutas, all gas dumped on lukers at the same time (no hive), flying over marines with move command mutas, no lings to hold the ground with those first lurkers... /cry
EGM guides me
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 12 2010 12:44 GMT
#587
On November 12 2010 21:42 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 21:41 Garrl wrote:
Fantasy didn't play all that well imo, Hyun just didn't tech to lurks fast enough and stayed on lair too long.


But he went 2 hatch so his economy was bad anyway and since fantasy went 4 rax pressure there was nothing hyun could do but continue to mass lair tech. If he tried to tech to hive he'd be short on units and be rolled over on the spot.

yep.
games don't always play out with the same timings - you have to have enough stuff to not die before teching or expanding
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 12:45:08
November 12 2010 12:44 GMT
#588
edit:nvm
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 12 2010 12:45 GMT
#589
On November 12 2010 21:44 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 21:43 Zona wrote:
On November 12 2010 21:41 Piste wrote:
On November 12 2010 21:39 Grobyc wrote:
fantasy's bio control aint half bad this game. i think he been practicing

what? he let way too marines die early becouse they were crippled. his attack on the lurkers were quite ok tho.
but hyun really fucked up that one attack.

well we'll never know for sure but it looked like fantasy did position his units in case the lurkerling rushed in - after all fantasy did see all the lurkers at hyun's nat just moments ago when he turned away and decided to siege the 3rd instead

but yeah fantasy did leave a lot of his rines early on alone/isolated where they were easily picked off
still, an improvement is an improvement


Any A team progamer should be able to micro his marines like that and Fantasy's control vs those mutas was pretty horrible it's just he had the economy to continuously pump them while Hyun had to fight for his life

fantasy's bio control has been sub-"any a team progamer" - that's why it's notable
hah

but it's good to see something different TvZ on pathfinder for once
the map at least for now seems to be so good for mutas with such a short air distance
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 12 2010 12:46 GMT
#590
Set 2 on Gladiator!

Fantasy the red terran at 8.
Hyun the teal zerg at 5.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
November 12 2010 12:46 GMT
#591
hyun major problem was trading marines with mutas, no micro whatsoever
BW is back
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 12 2010 12:46 GMT
#592
Trading rines for mutas doesn't really matter if you're playing 1 Rax FE vs 2 Hatch muta as long as he can't touch your econ. ^__^
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 12 2010 12:47 GMT
#593
first depot by the cc to push scvs

ol scouting wrong
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 12:47:58
November 12 2010 12:47 GMT
#594
Its not trading "marines for mutas" when one player is giving you mutalisks for free. Half the time, Fantasy didn't have to do anything but press "T" to kill Hyun's mutalisks.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
November 12 2010 12:47 GMT
#595
On November 12 2010 21:45 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 21:44 SubtleArt wrote:
On November 12 2010 21:43 Zona wrote:
On November 12 2010 21:41 Piste wrote:
On November 12 2010 21:39 Grobyc wrote:
fantasy's bio control aint half bad this game. i think he been practicing

what? he let way too marines die early becouse they were crippled. his attack on the lurkers were quite ok tho.
but hyun really fucked up that one attack.

well we'll never know for sure but it looked like fantasy did position his units in case the lurkerling rushed in - after all fantasy did see all the lurkers at hyun's nat just moments ago when he turned away and decided to siege the 3rd instead

but yeah fantasy did leave a lot of his rines early on alone/isolated where they were easily picked off
still, an improvement is an improvement


Any A team progamer should be able to micro his marines like that and Fantasy's control vs those mutas was pretty horrible it's just he had the economy to continuously pump them while Hyun had to fight for his life

fantasy's bio control has been sub-"any a team progamer" - that's why it's notable
hah

but it's good to see something different TvZ on pathfinder for once
the map at least for now seems to be so good for mutas with such a short air distance


Yea Fantasy's build was pretty clever for this map. A little blunt, and a little intuitive, but still quite clever. More subtle thinking than his trademark 1 of everything builds lol
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 12 2010 12:47 GMT
#596
drone heads out - 12hatch
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
November 12 2010 12:47 GMT
#597
i hope fantasy goes mech this game

fanta's mech is vastly superior to fanta's bio
BW is back
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 12 2010 12:48 GMT
#598
fantasy opening with cc
sweet

dronescout coming though
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
November 12 2010 12:48 GMT
#599
12hatch vs 13cc

wow
POGGERS
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
November 12 2010 12:48 GMT
#600
14cc for fantasy!
BW is back
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