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On November 12 2010 21:41 Garrl wrote: Fantasy didn't play all that well imo, Hyun just didn't tech to lurks fast enough and stayed on lair too long.
But he went 2 hatch so his economy was bad anyway and since fantasy went 4 rax pressure there was nothing hyun could do but continue to mass lair tech. If he tried to tech to hive he'd be short on units and be rolled over on the spot.
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On November 12 2010 21:41 Garrl wrote: Fantasy didn't play all that well imo, Hyun just didn't tech to lurks fast enough and stayed on lair too long. exactly my thoughts. and I am Fantasy fan. well not exactly, but I think fantasys play wasnt that good.
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A very sloopy game by both sides, Fanta lost a ton of idle marine while Hyun let marines take free shots at his mutas, culminating in one of the ugliest lurker attack of all time.
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I think Hyun would've been better just letting his 3rd get sacked and playing it off with 2-3 defilers - Fantasy wasn't teching AT ALL - he didn't have any vessels, so filers would've been incredibly potent.
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On November 12 2010 21:41 Piste wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 21:39 Grobyc wrote:fantasy's bio control aint half bad this game. i think he been practicing  what? he let way too marines die early becouse they were crippled. his attack on the lurkers were quite ok tho. but hyun really fucked up that one attack. well we'll never know for sure but it looked like fantasy did position his units in case the lurkerling rushed in - after all fantasy did see all the lurkers at hyun's nat just moments ago when he turned away and decided to siege the 3rd instead
but yeah fantasy did leave a lot of his rines early on alone/isolated where they were easily picked off still, an improvement is an improvement
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no scv kills with the mutas, all gas dumped on lukers at the same time (no hive), flying over marines with move command mutas, no lings to hold the ground with those first lurkers... /cry
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On November 12 2010 21:42 SubtleArt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 21:41 Garrl wrote: Fantasy didn't play all that well imo, Hyun just didn't tech to lurks fast enough and stayed on lair too long. But he went 2 hatch so his economy was bad anyway and since fantasy went 4 rax pressure there was nothing hyun could do but continue to mass lair tech. If he tried to tech to hive he'd be short on units and be rolled over on the spot. yep. games don't always play out with the same timings - you have to have enough stuff to not die before teching or expanding
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On November 12 2010 21:44 SubtleArt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 21:43 Zona wrote:On November 12 2010 21:41 Piste wrote:On November 12 2010 21:39 Grobyc wrote:fantasy's bio control aint half bad this game. i think he been practicing  what? he let way too marines die early becouse they were crippled. his attack on the lurkers were quite ok tho. but hyun really fucked up that one attack. well we'll never know for sure but it looked like fantasy did position his units in case the lurkerling rushed in - after all fantasy did see all the lurkers at hyun's nat just moments ago when he turned away and decided to siege the 3rd instead but yeah fantasy did leave a lot of his rines early on alone/isolated where they were easily picked off still, an improvement is an improvement Any A team progamer should be able to micro his marines like that and Fantasy's control vs those mutas was pretty horrible it's just he had the economy to continuously pump them while Hyun had to fight for his life fantasy's bio control has been sub-"any a team progamer" - that's why it's notable hah
but it's good to see something different TvZ on pathfinder for once the map at least for now seems to be so good for mutas with such a short air distance
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Set 2 on Gladiator!
Fantasy the red terran at 8. Hyun the teal zerg at 5.
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hyun major problem was trading marines with mutas, no micro whatsoever
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Trading rines for mutas doesn't really matter if you're playing 1 Rax FE vs 2 Hatch muta as long as he can't touch your econ. ^__^
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first depot by the cc to push scvs
ol scouting wrong
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Its not trading "marines for mutas" when one player is giving you mutalisks for free. Half the time, Fantasy didn't have to do anything but press "T" to kill Hyun's mutalisks.
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On November 12 2010 21:45 Zona wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2010 21:44 SubtleArt wrote:On November 12 2010 21:43 Zona wrote:On November 12 2010 21:41 Piste wrote:On November 12 2010 21:39 Grobyc wrote:fantasy's bio control aint half bad this game. i think he been practicing  what? he let way too marines die early becouse they were crippled. his attack on the lurkers were quite ok tho. but hyun really fucked up that one attack. well we'll never know for sure but it looked like fantasy did position his units in case the lurkerling rushed in - after all fantasy did see all the lurkers at hyun's nat just moments ago when he turned away and decided to siege the 3rd instead but yeah fantasy did leave a lot of his rines early on alone/isolated where they were easily picked off still, an improvement is an improvement Any A team progamer should be able to micro his marines like that and Fantasy's control vs those mutas was pretty horrible it's just he had the economy to continuously pump them while Hyun had to fight for his life fantasy's bio control has been sub-"any a team progamer" - that's why it's notable hah but it's good to see something different TvZ on pathfinder for once the map at least for now seems to be so good for mutas with such a short air distance
Yea Fantasy's build was pretty clever for this map. A little blunt, and a little intuitive, but still quite clever. More subtle thinking than his trademark 1 of everything builds lol
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drone heads out - 12hatch
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i hope fantasy goes mech this game
fanta's mech is vastly superior to fanta's bio
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fantasy opening with cc sweet
dronescout coming though
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