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On November 13 2010 15:52 mustaju wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 15:50 nayumi wrote:On November 13 2010 15:36 mustaju wrote:
NEXT time. hahaha bitterness is bitter  Really, a lot came down to luck. Not talking about the DT incident but much rather about the lineups. Had Bisu played last and Calm Fantasy, for example, it might have been a lot different.
Its not too much about luck, blame the stx coach for guessing wrong or skt coach for guessing right. even if it was the other way though it would probably be the same way
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On November 13 2010 15:52 mustaju wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 15:50 nayumi wrote:On November 13 2010 15:36 mustaju wrote:
NEXT time. hahaha bitterness is bitter Really, a lot came down to luck. Not talking about the DT incident but much rather about the lineups. Had Bisu played last and Calm Fantasy, for example, it might have been a lot different.
Then Calm would have been more likely to lost a ZvT then a ZvP. Despite people say how bad Fantasy's TvZ is, Calm's ZvT is a lot worse compared to his ZvP stats.
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On November 13 2010 15:52 mustaju wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 15:50 nayumi wrote:On November 13 2010 15:36 mustaju wrote:
NEXT time. hahaha bitterness is bitter Really, a lot came down to luck. Not talking about the DT incident but much rather about the lineups. Had Bisu played last and Calm Fantasy, for example, it might have been a lot different.
Bisu never plays on Grand Line first of all, and he would rip Last a new one because this is not the same Bisu from last season. Fantasy probably would beat Calm at their current forms, but that's up to debate.
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On November 13 2010 15:52 mustaju wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 15:50 nayumi wrote:On November 13 2010 15:36 mustaju wrote:
NEXT time. hahaha bitterness is bitter Really, a lot came down to luck. Not talking about the DT incident but much rather about the lineups. Had Bisu played last and Calm Fantasy, for example, it might have been a lot different.
Yeah, fair comment mate. I think if you're a STX fan then it's luck, while if you're a SKT fan then it's just very good MU prediction by Coach Park.
As I said earlier, I don't think there's much b/w the teams.
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On November 13 2010 15:55 vishrut wrote:
Really, a lot came down to luck. Not talking about the DT incident but much rather about the lineups. Had Bisu played last and Calm Fantasy, for example, it might have been a lot different.
Would Last's chances against Bisu really have been that much better?
And the poor man's FvJ is always a tossup.
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On November 13 2010 15:56 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 15:52 mustaju wrote:On November 13 2010 15:50 nayumi wrote:On November 13 2010 15:36 mustaju wrote:
NEXT time. hahaha bitterness is bitter Really, a lot came down to luck. Not talking about the DT incident but much rather about the lineups. Had Bisu played last and Calm Fantasy, for example, it might have been a lot different. Yeah, fair comment mate. I think if you're a STX fan then it's luck, while if you're a SKT fan then it's just very good MU prediction by Coach Park. As I said earlier, I don't think there's much b/w the teams.
That was just one example of a possible lineup change that could have changed a lot. Benzene is pretty good for both P and T, and Grand Line SE, while T favoured, has had its fair share of PvP-s as well. Best got away with facing Bogus and Bisu played a Zerg again instead of a Terran. Sigh. Not to take anything away from SKT though, you guys played very well. Hoping for a complete smackdown from the other side next time, though.
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On November 13 2010 15:45 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 15:43 domane wrote:
Remember how SKT1 got a year-supply of chicken, at the end of last season?
It has yielded results. wait.. I thought that was Oz? No, it was SKT1. The STX coach promised their players a year's worth of chicken, if they could beat MBC. SKT1 trashed MBC and STX secured their second place and a semi-final berth in playoffs.
What happened afterwards was hilarious.
SKT1 fought off WeMade and CJ, then proceeded to eliminate STX from the playoffs. 
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On November 13 2010 15:52 mustaju wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 15:50 nayumi wrote:On November 13 2010 15:36 mustaju wrote:
NEXT time. hahaha bitterness is bitter Really, a lot came down to luck. Not talking about the DT incident but much rather about the lineups. Had Bisu played last and Calm Fantasy, for example, it might have been a lot different.
In fact STX coaches had no choice. The score was 2-3 and they need to even up the score so they can only send the best player available. Sending Last on a game-deciding match is a poor decision while the other team still has many good players. Luck doesn't play much role here since it was like 95% that STX coaches would send Calm.
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On November 13 2010 16:08 domane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 15:45 ArvickHero wrote:On November 13 2010 15:43 domane wrote:
Remember how SKT1 got a year-supply of chicken, at the end of last season?
It has yielded results. wait.. I thought that was Oz? No, it was SKT1. The STX coach promised their players a year's worth of chicken, if they could beat MBC. SKT1 trashed MBC and STX secured their second place, meaning semi-final berth in playoffs. What happened afterwards was funny too. SKT1 fought off WeMade and CJ, then proceeded to eliminate STX from the playoffs.
No....it was Oz that defeated MBC and secured STX's 2nd place finish. >_>
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On November 13 2010 16:09 dukethegold wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 16:08 domane wrote:On November 13 2010 15:45 ArvickHero wrote:On November 13 2010 15:43 domane wrote:
Remember how SKT1 got a year-supply of chicken, at the end of last season?
It has yielded results. wait.. I thought that was Oz? No, it was SKT1. The STX coach promised their players a year's worth of chicken, if they could beat MBC. SKT1 trashed MBC and STX secured their second place, meaning semi-final berth in playoffs. What happened afterwards was funny too. SKT1 fought off WeMade and CJ, then proceeded to eliminate STX from the playoffs. No....it was Oz that defeated MBC and secured STX's 2nd place finish. >_> Ah ...
That was stupid. I somehow had the teams totally mixed up. My bad.
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On November 13 2010 16:09 kamikami wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 15:52 mustaju wrote:On November 13 2010 15:50 nayumi wrote:On November 13 2010 15:36 mustaju wrote:
NEXT time. hahaha bitterness is bitter Really, a lot came down to luck. Not talking about the DT incident but much rather about the lineups. Had Bisu played last and Calm Fantasy, for example, it might have been a lot different. In fact STX coaches had no choice. The score was 2-3 and they need to even up the score so they can only send the best player available. Sending Last on a game-deciding match is a poor decision while the other team still has many good players. Luck doesn't play much role here since it was like 95% that STX coaches would send Calm.
The line ups are made before that, they are not deciding at the moment who will they send. Through the week every palyer train ona specific map so the order is usually like that.
The only uknown is that the opposing player don't know who will face in the match. We don't know too. That is to make things more interesting.
So in the end, One coach send the line up , the other coach send the line up. Nobody knows what will face in the day.
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On November 13 2010 16:16 gorchiza wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 16:09 kamikami wrote:On November 13 2010 15:52 mustaju wrote:On November 13 2010 15:50 nayumi wrote:On November 13 2010 15:36 mustaju wrote:
NEXT time. hahaha bitterness is bitter Really, a lot came down to luck. Not talking about the DT incident but much rather about the lineups. Had Bisu played last and Calm Fantasy, for example, it might have been a lot different. In fact STX coaches had no choice. The score was 2-3 and they need to even up the score so they can only send the best player available. Sending Last on a game-deciding match is a poor decision while the other team still has many good players. Luck doesn't play much role here since it was like 95% that STX coaches would send Calm. The line ups are made before that, they are not deciding at the moment who will they send. Through the week every palyer train ona specific map so the order is usually like that. The only uknown is that the opposing player don't know who will face in the match. We don't know too. That is to make things more interesting. So in the end, One coach send the line up , the other coach send the line up. Nobody knows what will face in the day.
That's the old format. New format is to send them out as you go, to prevent betting scandals.
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On November 13 2010 15:52 mustaju wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 15:50 nayumi wrote:On November 13 2010 15:36 mustaju wrote:
NEXT time. hahaha bitterness is bitter Really, a lot came down to luck. Not talking about the DT incident but much rather about the lineups. Had Bisu played last and Calm Fantasy, for example, it might have been a lot different.
If a team wins once, you could arguably talk about luck.
When a team wins 8 times in a row...such talk becomes somewhat farfetched.
On November 13 2010 13:23 ironcell wrote:
sick storms, best trained sun well
You know things have really changed when BeSt is being attributed as being noteworthy for his storms...
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Seems Bisu just made a new PvZ ELO peak! 2255, from 2239 previously.
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On November 13 2010 16:09 kamikami wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 15:52 mustaju wrote:On November 13 2010 15:50 nayumi wrote:On November 13 2010 15:36 mustaju wrote:
NEXT time. hahaha bitterness is bitter Really, a lot came down to luck. Not talking about the DT incident but much rather about the lineups. Had Bisu played last and Calm Fantasy, for example, it might have been a lot different. In fact STX coaches had no choice. The score was 2-3 and they need to even up the score so they can only send the best player available. Sending Last on a game-deciding match is a poor decision while the other team still has many good players. Luck doesn't play much role here since it was like 95% that STX coaches would send Calm.
The score was 2-2. Bisu vs Calm was set 5, not 6.
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On November 13 2010 15:52 mustaju wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 15:50 nayumi wrote:On November 13 2010 15:36 mustaju wrote:
NEXT time. hahaha bitterness is bitter Really, a lot came down to luck. Not talking about the DT incident but much rather about the lineups. Had Bisu played last and Calm Fantasy, for example, it might have been a lot different.
Well, Fantasy is not that bad against Zerg as anybody are talking, but Calm lately have a serious problem wining with Terrans. That was clearly seen in last season, when head-to-head rivarly between Calm and Fantasy turned to one sided Clam vs Fantasy, when Clam was Fantasy's favorite bitch. I dont know how is his current ZvT form, but if it hasnt improve a lot, that would probably change anything.
Oh, BTW...what the hell is KWANROTFL doing?
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On November 13 2010 18:00 Zona wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 15:52 mustaju wrote:On November 13 2010 15:50 nayumi wrote:On November 13 2010 15:36 mustaju wrote:
NEXT time. hahaha bitterness is bitter Really, a lot came down to luck. Not talking about the DT incident but much rather about the lineups. Had Bisu played last and Calm Fantasy, for example, it might have been a lot different. If a team wins once, you could arguably talk about luck. When a team wins 8 times in a row...such talk becomes somewhat farfetched.
Fine. I'm willing to concede that it was either better decision making on a level I don't really understand, or luck today. In general, most SKT victories are deserved. As is this one. Doesn't mean you should treat us as walkovers, I think.
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Lol what was Last even doing there...
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Also, before I forget, great writeup, lightwip. Hope other teams will take the fight to you as well.
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This made me even more happy about Bisu winning.
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5497/fagsmiling.png) Cheesy cheesy by.hero didn't get his way this time around.
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