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PlayCraft
Profile Joined November 2003
84 Posts
July 10 2004 16:36 GMT
#201
On July 11 2004 01:24 thu_anh wrote:
july - zerg user- the best -
jyky> yellow

Hardly. I think both yellow and Gorush will own july.
tomson
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland641 Posts
July 10 2004 17:54 GMT
#202
On July 10 2004 20:59 mensrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2004 17:02 tomson wrote:
Don't feel bad. You questioned his guru authority, that's why he got upset :<


tomson, I'm disappointed in you.


Is it because I wrote "his" instead of "her" ? :X

Answer me on the coach part, I'm curious.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
July 10 2004 18:06 GMT
#203
What's your question...?
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
tomson
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland641 Posts
July 10 2004 18:07 GMT
#204
On July 10 2004 15:44 tomson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2004 15:27 mensrea wrote:
You haven't even met Reach and spoken with his practice partners and coaches, so what the hell do you know about what *I mean by "drive."



Coaches? What's the role of a coach?
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
July 10 2004 18:17 GMT
#205
I was talking about the comments made by players and the coach of the HanbitStars before Reach's fateful match v Boxer in Sky 2002. The information was that Reach was practicing like a madman something like 16 hours a day for a week straight. The entire team locked themselves up during the week before the match helping Reach practice. They never left the team dorm. Bak wanted to win so badly, it was quite serious. It was pure, naked desire to win and his teamates fed off the vibes from him. Nothing else mattered to Reach in the run-up to Sky 2002. I don't sense the same level of desire from him this time, altho undoubtedly he wants to win and has been practicing lots.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
tomson
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland641 Posts
July 10 2004 18:25 GMT
#206
Yeaaaah.

But what's the role of a coach?
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
July 10 2004 18:48 GMT
#207
Well, first of all that's not what I was talking about when I mentioned the word "coach." So you're way off topic.

But, here's the short answer: "coaches" help players analyze their games, develop strats and generally get involved with the players technically to help their game. They also show up at games to help players with advice, tips etc. On the other hand, team "directors" (the word I really should have used, but didn't because the Korean word gamdok can be translated into both "coach" and "director") are mostly administrators for the team, handling sponsorships and tending to the day-to-day management of the team, its staff and players, as opposed to getting involved with the players on a technical level. Some teams have both roles combined into one. The teams that can afford to have them separated. FYI, the new generation of directors tho (like SKT1's Joo Hoon) are also motivators and try to help the players find an emotional balance to achieve optimum results. The coaches do this too, of course. But Joo Hoon's especially adept at getting the most out of his players emotionally given his background in sports psychology.

Now stop nagging me.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
ejai63
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2101 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-07-11 03:23:47
July 11 2004 02:09 GMT
#208
On July 10 2004 16:59 SoL.Origin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2004 15:27 mensrea wrote:
On July 10 2004 15:21 SoL.Origin wrote:

You should consider the fact that Reach has been in the top 20 (maybe top 10) since he won the starleague, he doesnt give up and is always among the top protoss players... he obviously has this "drive" you speak of.

Origin - I appreciate that you're a Reach fan, but stop patronizing me in the process. You haven't even met Reach and spoken with his practice partners and coaches, so what the hell do you know about what *I mean by "drive."


I realize you are not a very open-minded person. It seems my different point of view somehow upset you.


i dont always agree with mensrea and dont worship him like a lot of other guys - so dont accuse me of being biased - but seriously, go bacvk to middle school and learn to form a rational, cogent arguement. mensrea offered his expert opinion on the matter and you disagreed with him based purely on your opinion. nobody respects everyone's right to express their opinion more than mensrea, but if you want to make a point, back it up, dont be a petulant baby. mensrea offered his reasoning for his comment, which was backed by solid evidence, whereas you just disagre and flame him based on purely circumstantial grounds. if all you can do is dole out a pure guess and childish remarks....well then, i think you fit right in at tl.net
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SoL.Origin
Profile Joined September 2003
Argentina2400 Posts
July 11 2004 04:52 GMT
#209
Most of my post was based on facts, its not my oppinion that Reach has been top 5 protoss since he won OSL.
Son Of Law
tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-07-15 15:35:02
July 13 2004 05:52 GMT
#210
ejai63,

How the hell is saying "You should consider the fact that Reach has been in the top 20 (maybe top 10) since he won the starleague, he doesnt give up and is always among the top protoss players" a pure guess? And most importantly how the hell is saying that childish? Explain?

I've read Origin's post over and over and I cannot pinpoint 1 time where he made a pure guess/childish comment. Reach definitely has been in the top 20, many of the time top 10 since he was champion. ejai63 it seems that you're the one who needs to back up your statements with "solid evidence."

Both mensrea and origin has their point of view, just that each person defines "drive" differently. No one is exactly wrong. I can understand from both of their perspectives. Although we can all agree that July has more drive than Reach does now -- he's never won the big one nor any other zerg for that matter.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
July 13 2004 14:34 GMT
#211
...aaaanyway, guys back on topic please. Thx.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
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