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mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
July 10 2004 06:08 GMT
#181
As good as Reach is, I somehow don't feel the same reckless intensity and passion from him that I felt when he won it all in SKY 2002, altho by most accounts he's a better player now than he was back then.

I've always said, it's not just skill that wins you the championship (skill is a givens) - it's drive and passion. I see some serious hunger in July. In fact, he's worn his ambition on his sleeve throughout this tournament - but not many bothered to see it. Until now of course.

Look for July to take the Gillette final and finally (FINALLY!) end the Zerg championship drought. Man, what a story this guy is.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
SoL.Origin
Profile Joined September 2003
Argentina2400 Posts
July 10 2004 06:21 GMT
#182
On July 10 2004 15:08 mensrea wrote:
As good as Reach is, I somehow don't feel the same reckless intensity and passion from him that I felt when he won it all in SKY 2002, altho by most accounts he's a better player now than he was back then.

I've always said, it's not just skill that wins you the championship (skill is a givens) - it's drive and passion. I see some serious hunger in July. In fact, he's worn his ambition on his sleeve throughout this tournament - but not many bothered to see it. Until now of course.

Look for July to take the Gillette final and finally (FINALLY!) end the Zerg championship drought. Man, what a story this guy is.


You should consider the fact that Reach has been in the top 20 (maybe top 10) since he won the starleague, he doesnt give up and is always among the top protoss players... he obviously has this "drive" you speak of.

But I mostly like his style because he uses unorthodox builds yet plays extremely well no matter what build he uses, like when he won that pvp on paradoxx using dark archons to steal carriers, or when he beat nada by taking a gas exp and going carriers on nostalgia and stopping his vultures with 2 goon blockades on the middle.
Son Of Law
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-07-10 06:32:21
July 10 2004 06:27 GMT
#183
On July 10 2004 15:21 SoL.Origin wrote:

You should consider the fact that Reach has been in the top 20 (maybe top 10) since he won the starleague, he doesnt give up and is always among the top protoss players... he obviously has this "drive" you speak of.


Origin - I appreciate that you're a Reach fan, but stop patronizing me in the process. You haven't even met Reach and spoken with his practice partners and coaches, so what the hell do you know about what *I mean by "drive."

actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
July 10 2004 06:42 GMT
#184
Well it's only natural that you will be most driven to win your first. That's why everyone without exception slumps after winning that big one they've been chasing for years.
impatience is a virtue
tomson
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland641 Posts
July 10 2004 06:42 GMT
#185
On July 10 2004 15:08 mensrea wrote:


I've always said, it's not just skill that wins you the championship (skill is a givens) - it's drive and passion.


Agreed. That's why I usually vote for the newcomers, rather than the old-timers. I had hopes for Niza, since a 2 year break could really create a hunger for the game, but we haven't heard of him lately.

I'm not utterly impressed by July. The games vs iloveoov showed that he can play very good, but dreadfully bad as well (his losses on Mercury and Requiem). I might be wrong, since it's probably no coincidence that he had won iTV recently. Time will tell. As for now I don't see him as a machine, like NaDa for example (my absolute favourite when it comes to consistency).
tomson
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland641 Posts
July 10 2004 06:44 GMT
#186
On July 10 2004 15:27 mensrea wrote:
You haven't even met Reach and spoken with his practice partners and coaches, so what the hell do you know about what *I mean by "drive."



Coaches? What's the role of a coach?
SoL.Origin
Profile Joined September 2003
Argentina2400 Posts
July 10 2004 07:59 GMT
#187
On July 10 2004 15:27 mensrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2004 15:21 SoL.Origin wrote:

You should consider the fact that Reach has been in the top 20 (maybe top 10) since he won the starleague, he doesnt give up and is always among the top protoss players... he obviously has this "drive" you speak of.

Origin - I appreciate that you're a Reach fan, but stop patronizing me in the process. You haven't even met Reach and spoken with his practice partners and coaches, so what the hell do you know about what *I mean by "drive."


I realize you are not a very open-minded person. It seems my different point of view somehow upset you.
Son Of Law
tomson
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland641 Posts
July 10 2004 08:02 GMT
#188
Don't feel bad. You questioned his guru authority, that's why he got upset :<
Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
July 10 2004 08:20 GMT
#189
I know nothing of Reach's drive and nowadays he always looks incredibly calm and controlled when he plays. However, there was something about his actual play in game five that reminded me of 2002.

I think July must go into the final as favourite, however.
We are vigilant.
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
July 10 2004 08:37 GMT
#190
On July 09 2004 03:24 Zerius wrote:
thats gay as hell, obviously control knew he couldnt beat reach on nostalgia conventionally =[


I disagree...First of all, I find unconventional play to be the most interesting and secondly, I'm impressed that Control made that strat work...

But I think game 5 is being hyped too much. It was fucking great don't get me wrong, but the luck factor played a huge role. Poor Control...got owned by his own mines. 12 units for 1 zeal is a bad trade...haha

Common now Reach, you best not pull a Boxer and lose to a peon like July.

However, I find it kinda sad, because I think iloveoov vs. Reach would be a better match up.

Oh well...
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
July 10 2004 08:43 GMT
#191
"Common now Reach, you best not pull a Boxer and lose to a peon like July."

Just before I get flamed...put this comment into perspective...I'm not saying July sucks...I'm just saying that Reach has a more destinguished past and is therefore the king of the castle...

bah...whatever...you'll all hate on my oov loving ass anyways...

Gogo Reach!
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
July 10 2004 11:58 GMT
#192
On July 10 2004 16:59 SoL.Origin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2004 15:27 mensrea wrote:
On July 10 2004 15:21 SoL.Origin wrote:

You should consider the fact that Reach has been in the top 20 (maybe top 10) since he won the starleague, he doesnt give up and is always among the top protoss players... he obviously has this "drive" you speak of.

Origin - I appreciate that you're a Reach fan, but stop patronizing me in the process. You haven't even met Reach and spoken with his practice partners and coaches, so what the hell do you know about what *I mean by "drive."


I realize you are not a very open-minded person. It seems my different point of view somehow upset you.


Nope. Read my response again - but before that, read what you originally wrote first.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
July 10 2004 11:59 GMT
#193
On July 10 2004 17:02 tomson wrote:
Don't feel bad. You questioned his guru authority, that's why he got upset :<


tomson, I'm disappointed in you.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33708 Posts
July 10 2004 12:08 GMT
#194
On July 10 2004 20:59 mensrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2004 17:02 tomson wrote:
Don't feel bad. You questioned his guru authority, that's why he got upset :<


tomson, I'm disappointed in you.


no, you're being mean T_T
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
July 10 2004 14:55 GMT
#195
Actually, you're right. I am being mean.

Apologies to Origin.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 10 2004 14:56 GMT
#196
Mensrea you are terrible person with a black black heart!

You should go...er... wait.. apologized.

NEVERMIND
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
July 10 2004 15:00 GMT
#197
:D
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 10 2004 15:01 GMT
#198
Holy shit, I just noticed I have over 3000 posts

Oops.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
PlayCraft
Profile Joined November 2003
84 Posts
July 10 2004 15:17 GMT
#199
wax, when Nal_ra plays IloveOov In MSL?
thu_anh
Profile Joined July 2004
Netherlands22 Posts
July 10 2004 16:24 GMT
#200
july - zerg user- the best -
jyky> yellow
The HARDEST thing to do is watch the one you love, love somebody else
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