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On August 11 2010 19:19 integral wrote:
Zero really seems to have matured as a player. I haven't seen any more of that "prince of the zerg" and "impress the fans" bullshit in a while, and he just seems pretty comfortable in the booth. While not a favorite to win a starleague, he's been pretty consistently hitting the ro8. I might have to change my opinion of him from an annoying attention whore to a respectable player.
I dunno really, zero has always seemed to me to be a really streaky player--he had that crazy zvp streak a while back, and then for a long time did nothing of real note. He's on fire now, and it's pretty awesome to see him like this, but it remains to be seen if he can keep going if he hits a couple stumbling blocks.
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On August 11 2010 19:19 integral wrote:
Zero really seems to have matured as a player. I haven't seen any more of that "prince of the zerg" and "impress the fans" bullshit in a while, and he just seems pretty comfortable in the booth. While not a favorite to win a starleague, he's been pretty consistently hitting the ro8. I might have to change my opinion of him from an annoying attention whore to a respectable player.
but that would be calling every progamer that ever did anything innovative or new 
I don't like the idea of nal_ra being a whore
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On August 11 2010 19:21 Yxes2211 wrote:
Im calling a JD run-by right now
I might have to go with you on this call. Pure's gonna play super greedy in an attempt to get some advantage and JD will just punch him in the face(metaphorically).
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On August 11 2010 19:19 integral wrote:
Zero really seems to have matured as a player. I haven't seen any more of that "prince of the zerg" and "impress the fans" bullshit in a while, and he just seems pretty comfortable in the booth. While not a favorite to win a starleague, he's been pretty consistently hitting the ro8. I might have to change my opinion of him from an annoying attention whore to a respectable player.
The thing is, he was always like that. He would occasionally play a creative game or two by abusing maps, or giving some fanservice after a lead, but he was one of the most solid macro zvters and zvpers ever. Once the Ro32s/Ro16s start he would start playing incredible SC and go on insane streaks with solid solid play, and it falls apart once he reaches the ro8 and has to face a good zerg or flash and would go on losing streaks. He can play S-class for a while, then he goes to being a B/A player which is frustrating for a fan.
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On August 11 2010 19:23 Grobyc wrote:I might have to go with you on this call. Pure's gonna play super greedy in an attempt to get some advantage and JD will just punch him in the face(metaphorically).
probably sair reaver with fast island
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On August 11 2010 19:22 integral wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 19:21 538 wrote:On August 11 2010 19:19 integral wrote:
Zero really seems to have matured as a player. I haven't seen any more of that "prince of the zerg" and "impress the fans" bullshit in a while, and he just seems pretty comfortable in the booth. While not a favorite to win a starleague, he's been pretty consistently hitting the ro8. I might have to change my opinion of him from an annoying attention whore to a respectable player. What? So going against the mechanical mainstream, and playing unorthodox and fun to watch strategies - with putting up results! - is now "attention whoring"? It's not what he did, it was why he was doing it, giving himself that nickname prince of the zerg and trying to use queens in a game... it was gimmicky, like a self-promoting marketing ploy.
how did you know he was doing it for those reasons?
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Korean Air Starleague, one of the best of all time IMO
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Or Pure is going to try that one base play and completely fuck up blocking his ramp.
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On August 11 2010 19:22 integral wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 19:21 538 wrote:On August 11 2010 19:19 integral wrote:
Zero really seems to have matured as a player. I haven't seen any more of that "prince of the zerg" and "impress the fans" bullshit in a while, and he just seems pretty comfortable in the booth. While not a favorite to win a starleague, he's been pretty consistently hitting the ro8. I might have to change my opinion of him from an annoying attention whore to a respectable player. What? So going against the mechanical mainstream, and playing unorthodox and fun to watch strategies - with putting up results! - is now "attention whoring"? It's not what he did, it was why he was doing it, giving himself that nickname prince of the zerg and trying to use queens in a game... it was gimmicky, like a self-promoting marketing ploy.
Whats wrong with trying to use queens ? I still say that if they are used right they can be pretty useful in all MUs ...
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Agreed with zero being streaky, but for all his streakiness he's a far cry from what he used to be.
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On August 11 2010 19:18 538 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 19:17 Warfie wrote:On August 11 2010 19:15 moopie wrote:Zero now on a 10 game winning streak  nothing can take him down. Huh? This can't be right..? Yes, obviously something can take him down eventually :-p (he had an allkill, and two additional kills the next day in the STX Masters cup)
Ah I forgot about the STX Masters. Well props to Zero!
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if 5hatch hydra bust>sair reaver again I'm gonna laugh
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Hyuk had higher APM in every category but it didn't help
Hyuk somehow wasn't able to really get a good arc with his lings in the first attack - lots of lings left behind the front line
and the sunken break was pretty bad...
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On August 11 2010 19:24 icystorage wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 19:22 integral wrote:On August 11 2010 19:21 538 wrote:On August 11 2010 19:19 integral wrote:
Zero really seems to have matured as a player. I haven't seen any more of that "prince of the zerg" and "impress the fans" bullshit in a while, and he just seems pretty comfortable in the booth. While not a favorite to win a starleague, he's been pretty consistently hitting the ro8. I might have to change my opinion of him from an annoying attention whore to a respectable player. What? So going against the mechanical mainstream, and playing unorthodox and fun to watch strategies - with putting up results! - is now "attention whoring"? It's not what he did, it was why he was doing it, giving himself that nickname prince of the zerg and trying to use queens in a game... it was gimmicky, like a self-promoting marketing ploy. how did you know he was doing it for those reasons?
interviews
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But the sunken placement was good too - not much area for Hyuk to attack, and again lots of his lings were left behind until he belatedly tried to get them around the hatchery, but it was already too late then.
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On August 11 2010 19:24 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 19:22 integral wrote:On August 11 2010 19:21 538 wrote:On August 11 2010 19:19 integral wrote:
Zero really seems to have matured as a player. I haven't seen any more of that "prince of the zerg" and "impress the fans" bullshit in a while, and he just seems pretty comfortable in the booth. While not a favorite to win a starleague, he's been pretty consistently hitting the ro8. I might have to change my opinion of him from an annoying attention whore to a respectable player. What? So going against the mechanical mainstream, and playing unorthodox and fun to watch strategies - with putting up results! - is now "attention whoring"? It's not what he did, it was why he was doing it, giving himself that nickname prince of the zerg and trying to use queens in a game... it was gimmicky, like a self-promoting marketing ploy. Whats wrong with trying to use queens ? I still say that if they are used right they can be pretty useful in all MUs ...
"It's not what he did, it's why he was doing it."
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On August 11 2010 19:22 integral wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 19:21 538 wrote:On August 11 2010 19:19 integral wrote:
Zero really seems to have matured as a player. I haven't seen any more of that "prince of the zerg" and "impress the fans" bullshit in a while, and he just seems pretty comfortable in the booth. While not a favorite to win a starleague, he's been pretty consistently hitting the ro8. I might have to change my opinion of him from an annoying attention whore to a respectable player. What? So going against the mechanical mainstream, and playing unorthodox and fun to watch strategies - with putting up results! - is now "attention whoring"? It's not what he did, it was why he was doing it, giving himself that nickname prince of the zerg and trying to use queens in a game... it was gimmicky, like a self-promoting marketing ploy.
Could you quote where he gave himself the prince of the zerg nickname? I'm doubious.
He showed a completely viable queen strategy against Bisu on HBR, then abused some map imbalance with it against Kal. He used queens in ZvZ too once, but its known that pure muta gets counter-productive after a while, and the answer is either ensnare, or hive tech.
All in all, I don't see your point. It seems like you might have a grudge against Zero fanboys, and that Zero gave them ground for whatever nicknames they liked, that is no reason to hate the player.
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JD with the look of an executioner on his face as he preps in the booth.
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On August 11 2010 19:24 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2010 19:22 integral wrote:On August 11 2010 19:21 538 wrote:On August 11 2010 19:19 integral wrote:
Zero really seems to have matured as a player. I haven't seen any more of that "prince of the zerg" and "impress the fans" bullshit in a while, and he just seems pretty comfortable in the booth. While not a favorite to win a starleague, he's been pretty consistently hitting the ro8. I might have to change my opinion of him from an annoying attention whore to a respectable player. What? So going against the mechanical mainstream, and playing unorthodox and fun to watch strategies - with putting up results! - is now "attention whoring"? It's not what he did, it was why he was doing it, giving himself that nickname prince of the zerg and trying to use queens in a game... it was gimmicky, like a self-promoting marketing ploy. Whats wrong with trying to use queens ? I still say that if they are used right they can be pretty useful in all MUs ...
Correct. Zero eliminated Bisu from his group in the Lost Saga MSL with much thanks to his clever use of queens (broodlings on templars and infest parasite on archons).
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