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[SPL] Grand Final: KT Rolster vs SK Telecom T1 - Page 267

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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 07 2010 19:38 GMT
#5321
Well played, but I really feel annoyed about s2 losing. I really think he should've won his game.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
August 07 2010 19:41 GMT
#5322
The description for set two is kind of odd. More like winner blind hard counters loser then doesn't fuck it all up
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
August 07 2010 19:42 GMT
#5323
Two teams with weak zerg lineups... love it!
[TLMS] REBOOT
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
August 07 2010 19:43 GMT
#5324
Since SKT lost, I'm happy.
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
Colpan
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States196 Posts
August 07 2010 19:48 GMT
#5325
not really a blind hard counter :\
bisu has used that build a couple times on this map...stats just tailored a build exactly designed to beat the build he saw that bisu tended to go...just good studying and poor choice for bisu to continually use the same build on the same map
KumquatExpress
Profile Joined October 2009
United States344 Posts
August 07 2010 19:54 GMT
#5326
On August 08 2010 04:48 Colpan wrote:
not really a blind hard counter :\
bisu has used that build a couple times on this map...stats just tailored a build exactly designed to beat the build he saw that bisu tended to go...just good studying and poor choice for bisu to continually use the same build on the same map


Stats also beat Bisu in a similar way in the OSL wildcard qualifier semifinals. That was on MP, but the builds were pretty much the same as in this game. Sucks.
Speedythinggoesin, speedythingcomesout.
CScythe
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada810 Posts
August 07 2010 20:06 GMT
#5327
On August 08 2010 04:43 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
Since SKT lost, I'm happy.

Came here to post this Good play by KT
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
August 07 2010 20:11 GMT
#5328
Tempest for Finals MVP imo. Not an amazing series of games but I'm glad it shut the skt1 fanboys up and broke the "curse".

So happy for Flash :D he deserves it more than anyone after the work he's put in for KT
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
August 07 2010 20:15 GMT
#5329
Boring-ass series tbh -_-
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 20:42:02
August 07 2010 20:39 GMT
#5330
On August 08 2010 04:48 Colpan wrote:
not really a blind hard counter :\
bisu has used that build a couple times on this map...stats just tailored a build exactly designed to beat the build he saw that bisu tended to go...just good studying and poor choice for bisu to continually use the same build on the same map

Blind in the sense that he never actually saw what build was coming, he just guessed. And good for him, excellent coaching/preparation and all that but "read him like a book and completely dominated", c'mon that's just gonna get people incensed.
Edit: Painful grammatical error, I had two sentences in mind and wrote them both :d (also that smiley is awesome)
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
August 07 2010 20:43 GMT
#5331
Whoa, I thought it was going to be best 2 out of 3 series like it has been up to this point. But I guess you can't host a huge event 3 times.

Goooo KT
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4200 Posts
August 07 2010 20:48 GMT
#5332
On August 08 2010 05:15 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Boring-ass series tbh -_-

Yea it was a pretty boring finals.

I was kinda hoping hyuk wins against flash after the mutalisk attack for a chance at an awesome ace match, but, then, he, dieeess...
( ・´ー・`)
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
August 07 2010 20:50 GMT
#5333
On August 08 2010 05:39 n.DieJokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 04:48 Colpan wrote:
not really a blind hard counter :\
bisu has used that build a couple times on this map...stats just tailored a build exactly designed to beat the build he saw that bisu tended to go...just good studying and poor choice for bisu to continually use the same build on the same map

Blind in the sense that he never actually saw what build was coming, he just guessed. And good for him, excellent coaching/preparation and all that but "read him like a book and completely dominated", c'mon that's just gonna get people incensed.
Edit: Painful grammatical error, I had two sentences in mind and wrote them both :d (also that smiley is awesome)


A very well designed build can appear to be a "blind counter" to many of the things your opponent can do. It's true that there are builds that Bisu could have done that would have countered Stats' 1 Gate Nexus but Stats did his homework and deemed them unlikely. Then it was just a question of having the Dragoons in position for the DT - I'm sure if it hadn't come by the time the Obs was out he would have transitioned to defending other openings as well.

But yeah, Stats definitely guessed specifically for a DT build as being most likely.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 21:15:31
August 07 2010 20:53 GMT
#5334
On August 08 2010 05:48 prototype. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 05:15 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Boring-ass series tbh -_-

Yea it was a pretty boring finals.

I was kinda hoping hyuk wins against flash after the mutalisk attack for a chance at an awesome ace match, but, then, he, dieeess...

Nothing like (T)Fantasy/(Z)Jaedong, but some good games.

Also, Hyuk's play against Flash in the last set was embarrassing.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
August 07 2010 20:55 GMT
#5335
SKT1 players have this issue of being really predictable sometimes because of how distinct their playstyles can be. Another good example of this Protoss fuckery is the Stork vs Best bo5 back when Best was going on his PvP rampage. Stork studied with a bunch of other Protoss players and just wrecked Best in Medusa because it was so well known that SKT1 Protoss players always did this one build on that map. Likewise, Bisu always used this build on this map for this matchup so Stats was able to fuck him up completely with builds. There has to be some level of unpredictability if you don't want to play with an automatic disadvantage, especially in mirror matchups.
pwnz0r
Profile Joined August 2010
United States123 Posts
August 07 2010 21:13 GMT
#5336
Oh balls . I already knew what I was going to see before opening up the spoiler for Set 6. It's ok SKT1, next time!
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 07 2010 21:20 GMT
#5337
SKT zergs never fail to deliver.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
August 07 2010 21:31 GMT
#5338
Whoops lol
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
August 07 2010 21:39 GMT
#5339
wow kt protoss delivers
congrats kt
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
August 07 2010 21:58 GMT
#5340
Well done KT!!
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
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