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Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
July 28 2010 18:20 GMT
#581
Awesome carrier pun tree.hugger
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
July 28 2010 18:25 GMT
#582
God damn. Fanny had that game with every perfect play except how to react to carriers in your base when your opponent is almost extinct.

I was hoping he would win the first game for cushion's sake, but I feel pretty good about his chances against the others.
Each day gets better : )
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
July 28 2010 18:34 GMT
#583
God dammit, 0/4 on my LB.... FML... this is the worst single day predictions I ever made yet. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
July 28 2010 18:59 GMT
#584
stork's decision making was actually very good that game

man's a master of carriers
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 28 2010 19:48 GMT
#585
stork is the god of carriers, seriously. nobody uses them better than he does.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
July 28 2010 20:43 GMT
#586
On July 28 2010 22:16 purpose wrote:
It feel like it did not matter if Fantasy would have gone for a base trade.

If he had done so the carriers would have destroyed the main even faster and those goons would have removed his top expo. Stork had the Island and that would have been to hard for Fantasy to take out before Stork took him out.


I agree, there's no way a base trade would have worked out. It almost never works in TvP (try doing a base trade on iccup some time and you'll see how bad of an idea it is), and it especially won't work when P has an island + Carriers (literally impossible to attack something like that after a base trade).

Ugh, I really wanted Fantasy to win this. Sadly it turned out to be one of those showcase "Flash would never ever ever ever ever have lost this (from the midgame position) but Fantasy did" games. Fantasy's on the fly decision making is just so many levels below Flash's, oh well.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 28 2010 20:58 GMT
#587
On July 29 2010 05:43 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 22:16 purpose wrote:
It feel like it did not matter if Fantasy would have gone for a base trade.

If he had done so the carriers would have destroyed the main even faster and those goons would have removed his top expo. Stork had the Island and that would have been to hard for Fantasy to take out before Stork took him out.


I agree, there's no way a base trade would have worked out. It almost never works in TvP (try doing a base trade on iccup some time and you'll see how bad of an idea it is), and it especially won't work when P has an island + Carriers (literally impossible to attack something like that after a base trade).

Ugh, I really wanted Fantasy to win this. Sadly it turned out to be one of those showcase "Flash would never ever ever ever ever have lost this (from the midgame position) but Fantasy did" games. Fantasy's on the fly decision making is just so many levels below Flash's, oh well.

yeah, i agree with you.

the commentators actually had an interesting discussion about flash and fantasy vs protoss. they were saying that fantasy usually kills the protoss before he actually gets a threatening fleet, but he's weak once protoss gathers a certain number of them. not many protoss dare to go fast carriers (relatively) vs fantasy since his mid-game vulture harass is arguably the best in the world and has an incredible sense of timing. on the other hand, flash doesn't really mind if protoss gets carriers. nobody is better than him at simply crushing the protoss with superior army/macro/upgrades. on a final note, i don't think not one single protoss can use carriers as well as stork does. it's not just his micro, but rather how he manages his carrier fleet in combination with the ground army. he makes the most optimal decisions, always attacking the right places at the right times. it's pretty nuts.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 21:47:28
July 28 2010 21:46 GMT
#588
Everything went as I thought it would except Action/Effort. Really didn't think Action could win that one in a ZvZ but awesome to see him do so. This makes his STX masters results ok :D.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 00:05:57
July 28 2010 23:14 GMT
#589
--- Nuked ---
DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
July 28 2010 23:15 GMT
#590
[image loading]
Yugioooooooooooooh!

Watching Stork eat grapes in action was really classic.

I missed that, did that actuall happend? What game?
Happy to see Stork doing so well. Stork fighting!
Let's See Who's Stronger, Your Tricks, Or My Skills.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 28 2010 23:24 GMT
#591
On July 28 2010 20:36 Emon_ wrote:
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On July 28 2010 20:31 JohnColtrane wrote:
On July 28 2010 20:30 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
On July 28 2010 20:29 Smix wrote:
fantasy finally scans storks island expo lolol


he had a barrack there iirc ??


yeah it was killed, but maybe he didnt realize stork was expanding there too

There were two probes and a shuttle there when the carriers killed it. Maybe Fanta was looking elsewhere.

LOVE the two base carriers!!! Sick control, GL in the future Fantasy! STORK FIGHTING!!!

I'm pretty sure there was a PYLON already made when Fantasy's barracks was killed. Huge failure if he didn't see that.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 28 2010 23:31 GMT
#592
On July 29 2010 08:15 DemiSe wrote:
Show nested quote +
Watching Stork eat grapes in action was really classic.

I missed that, did that actuall happend? What game?
Happy to see Stork doing so well. Stork fighting!



+ Show Spoiler [GMS] +
Stork all killed estro, Defeating (P)Grape, (Z)Action, (T)Really, and (T)Classic last night :3
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
July 29 2010 00:04 GMT
#593
didn't see that win from Action... good shot of getting out now if he beats Leta.
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
July 29 2010 00:24 GMT
#594
lol yugioh cards with the ygo bgm xD
hiya is awesome
#1 Fantasy Fan!!!!
InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
July 29 2010 01:05 GMT
#595
Birdtoss Storkuuuu!!!! I watched the vod with nerves. So happy Stork won!
Stork protoss legend
dl2agon
Profile Joined June 2009
United States473 Posts
July 29 2010 04:02 GMT
#596
rofl magikarp is awesome
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
July 29 2010 05:47 GMT
#597
[image loading]
[image loading]

cheesy.
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
July 29 2010 05:58 GMT
#598
On July 29 2010 05:58 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 05:43 darktreb wrote:
On July 28 2010 22:16 purpose wrote:
It feel like it did not matter if Fantasy would have gone for a base trade.

If he had done so the carriers would have destroyed the main even faster and those goons would have removed his top expo. Stork had the Island and that would have been to hard for Fantasy to take out before Stork took him out.


I agree, there's no way a base trade would have worked out. It almost never works in TvP (try doing a base trade on iccup some time and you'll see how bad of an idea it is), and it especially won't work when P has an island + Carriers (literally impossible to attack something like that after a base trade).

Ugh, I really wanted Fantasy to win this. Sadly it turned out to be one of those showcase "Flash would never ever ever ever ever have lost this (from the midgame position) but Fantasy did" games. Fantasy's on the fly decision making is just so many levels below Flash's, oh well.

yeah, i agree with you.

on a final note, i don't think not one single protoss can use carriers as well as stork does. it's not just his micro, but rather how he manages his carrier fleet in combination with the ground army. he makes the most optimal decisions, always attacking the right places at the right times. it's pretty nuts.


This is so true. What makes Storks Carriers so amazing is his abillity to always make the correct decision at the exact right time. Many other players use their ground force to try and make a brake, and that often fails and they are stuck with only carriers.

But Stork dont give away his ground army for free and always use them perfect. Poke when the army is occupied by his Carriers and vice versa, use them to harass expos while his Carriers doing something els etc.

Must be so damn hard to decide what to do when your playing vs Storks carrier. Perhaps Flash is the only one who can handle it.
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 06:57:29
July 29 2010 06:57 GMT
#599
Man at one point I was so confident that Fantasy had that game in the bag, even letting the island expo survive... he stretched his goliaths too much =[

Also... just found this stupid thing on youtube and it isn't necessarily accurate (golis shooting missiles @ gateways lol)
but it sort of sums up how Stork vs Fantasy went...

Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
yeti
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States259 Posts
July 29 2010 17:12 GMT
#600
DAMN
Stork won 5 TV games that night
the absurd is sin without god
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