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HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
July 24 2010 06:44 GMT
#1681
Midas just got pummeled.... SKT showing no mercy sending Zergs early on kekekekek

if the SKT zergs win then its auto win for SKT... canata was playing a losing game from the start.... Pure just dropped the ball with the bridge move..
in The Kong line forever
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
July 24 2010 06:46 GMT
#1682
Epic? Oz vs SKT? Day 2 was decent (although so much cheese was flying around, and Best should have won that game vs Lomo) and Day 1 was a one-sided stomp with the only good game being Fantasy vs JD
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 24 2010 06:46 GMT
#1683
On July 24 2010 15:19 Sadistx wrote:
Anyone know the suicide hotline for Korea? I'm scared for Canata.

I was thinking the same thing. His winner's interview vs. CJ was so sad TT
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 06:49:37
July 24 2010 06:48 GMT
#1684
On July 24 2010 15:44 HeadhunteR wrote:
Midas just got pummeled.... SKT showing no mercy sending Zergs early on kekekekek

if the SKT zergs win then its auto win for SKT... canata was playing a losing game from the start.... Pure just dropped the ball with the bridge move..

Eh? Canata was arguably ahead until dark swarm came into play. That's when things really started to go downhill for him.

Unless you're just claiming that Canata can't win games and sending him out was an inevitable loss, but that's not true either, a key win on vs CJ day 3 came from him.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
July 24 2010 07:03 GMT
#1685
So what is with this M&M Deep Six opening vs. Toss? I see players do it from time to time and they fail with it far more often than they win (especially Light). In games I've seen it is like 2 wins to 8 losses.
This time Midas even got away with a greedy opening AND caught Best double-expanding with his rush. Aren't rush builds made to punish such play? Also Best went Observer first after double expand so it was no Turbo Reaver of any kind. Is the only point of this build catching a Toss rushing to Arbs? If so then Best seems like the guy to do it against but still, this seems so narrow.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 24 2010 07:05 GMT
#1686
Canata plays with no confidence at all he was so conservative and built 12 turrets.
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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
July 24 2010 07:15 GMT
#1687
watching the whole series... crazy!~~!!
Pure is better than i thought.... :D
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
July 24 2010 07:19 GMT
#1688
GO GO BISU! WIN DAY 2 FOR US!
yoyo!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 24 2010 07:23 GMT
#1689
Yeah, looks like everyone was right on the "SKT vs CJ being the real leadup to the finals" thing.
Remember Violet.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
July 24 2010 07:23 GMT
#1690
It's cool to see the SKT zergs come in form. With soo and s2 in top form, SKT will be unstoppable next season
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
July 24 2010 07:23 GMT
#1691
looks like they rigged the Bisuure game it's sooo awesome....
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 24 2010 07:26 GMT
#1692
I feel bad for Canata, he seems to be in a particularly bad state emotionally after his losses.
Maybe they can give him special training as well? Not that he's a particularly valuable part of the team, but it would be nice if he played well.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 24 2010 07:31 GMT
#1693
Sometimes, you just hit that ceiling...
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 24 2010 07:32 GMT
#1694
On July 24 2010 16:03 Fenrax wrote:
So what is with this M&M Deep Six opening vs. Toss? I see players do it from time to time and they fail with it far more often than they win (especially Light). In games I've seen it is like 2 wins to 8 losses.
This time Midas even got away with a greedy opening AND caught Best double-expanding with his rush. Aren't rush builds made to punish such play? Also Best went Observer first after double expand so it was no Turbo Reaver of any kind. Is the only point of this build catching a Toss rushing to Arbs? If so then Best seems like the guy to do it against but still, this seems so narrow.

I'm guessing Midas could've pushed out a little earlier if he'd skipped the expo. The expo helped him stay afloat for a while in the midgame transition, but it's also why BeSt could counter his critical first push even after a double expand.
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 24 2010 07:38 GMT
#1695
On July 24 2010 16:32 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 16:03 Fenrax wrote:
So what is with this M&M Deep Six opening vs. Toss? I see players do it from time to time and they fail with it far more often than they win (especially Light). In games I've seen it is like 2 wins to 8 losses.
This time Midas even got away with a greedy opening AND caught Best double-expanding with his rush. Aren't rush builds made to punish such play? Also Best went Observer first after double expand so it was no Turbo Reaver of any kind. Is the only point of this build catching a Toss rushing to Arbs? If so then Best seems like the guy to do it against but still, this seems so narrow.

I'm guessing Midas could've pushed out a little earlier if he'd skipped the expo. The expo helped him stay afloat for a while in the midgame transition, but it's also why BeSt could counter his critical first push even after a double expand.


Yup. The expo would have come in handy if he was able to cripple BeSt, but not quite finish him off. Then he can transition out or just macro up another push. He missed his timing by a bit though, and that expo didn't do much to help him (staying afloat in a losing situation with a BO loss isn't helpful).
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
July 24 2010 07:45 GMT
#1696
Pure isn't as bad as you might think
Nice! Hope SKT1 performs that good day 2 aswell
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GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
July 24 2010 07:49 GMT
#1697
what a rape today! Bisu <3
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 07:55:44
July 24 2010 07:53 GMT
#1698
On July 24 2010 15:46 scrubtastic wrote:
Epic? Oz vs SKT? Day 2 was decent (although so much cheese was flying around, and Best should have won that game vs Lomo) and Day 1 was a one-sided stomp with the only good game being Fantasy vs JD

Yes, but fantasy against Jaedong pretty much made the entire playoffs worth it.

Also, Wemade is going to come back better tomorrow, but I still see them losing. We'll say 4-3, with fantasy taking the ace match over Pure. Some solid games today, but the best one was obviously Bisu/Pure. Best PvP of 2010 in my book.

On July 24 2010 16:38 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 16:32 Zato-1 wrote:
On July 24 2010 16:03 Fenrax wrote:
So what is with this M&M Deep Six opening vs. Toss? I see players do it from time to time and they fail with it far more often than they win (especially Light). In games I've seen it is like 2 wins to 8 losses.
This time Midas even got away with a greedy opening AND caught Best double-expanding with his rush. Aren't rush builds made to punish such play? Also Best went Observer first after double expand so it was no Turbo Reaver of any kind. Is the only point of this build catching a Toss rushing to Arbs? If so then Best seems like the guy to do it against but still, this seems so narrow.

I'm guessing Midas could've pushed out a little earlier if he'd skipped the expo. The expo helped him stay afloat for a while in the midgame transition, but it's also why BeSt could counter his critical first push even after a double expand.


Yup. The expo would have come in handy if he was able to cripple BeSt, but not quite finish him off. Then he can transition out or just macro up another push. He missed his timing by a bit though, and that expo didn't do much to help him (staying afloat in a losing situation with a BO loss isn't helpful).

I'm not so sure he missed a timing, but rather that BeSt went reavers. If BeSt goes dts, or more gates, or two base arbs (which is what one would probably expect) then Midas's push probably works. But reavers were the perfect counter.

Although, to be fair, BeSt did have a lot of dragoons when Midas pushed, so he may very well have missed a timing. Or he may not have even practiced that build much at all, because he didn't expect protoss on Grand Line.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 24 2010 07:53 GMT
#1699
wow.

s2 said that he was send out to snipe Baby on roadrunner but got a ZvZ instead. Bisu said that he had only one shot at victory at the end. Soo said that he was preparing for a ZvP but wasn't surpised by a ZvT Best said he sensed Midas was going deep six and built a reaver.
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 24 2010 07:59 GMT
#1700
Wemade is in for a spirit killing defeat. So so sad. Tomorrow you'll see they just aren't good enough.
However, something dramatic needs to be done about this certain Canata fellow.
He looks and plays like a wreck at the moment, but we still need a 2nd T.

Hmmm I dunno about beating KT... PvP is so scary.
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