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banner by NoxideBigfile MSL Survivor Tournament 2010 Group 5 Thursday June 10, 13:00 KST
Game 1: Sea vs FlyingGame 2: s2 vs StorkMap Set: Game 1 and 2: Fighting SpiritWinners and Losers Game: Match PointFinal Game: Triathlon + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +Poll: Would you recommend Sea vs. Flying?No (21) 72% Yes (8) 28% 29 total votes Your vote: Would you recommend Sea vs. Flying? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No
Fast game, winner reverses an initial disadvantage with excellent push micro. -tree.hugger + Show Spoiler [Game 2] +Poll: Would you recommend Stork vs. S2?No (16) 59% Yes (11) 41% 27 total votes Your vote: Would you recommend Stork vs. S2? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No
It was a non-action packed game until the last minutes, where it was totally one-sided + Show Spoiler [Winners Game] +Poll: Would you recommend Sea vs Stork?Yes (24) 80% No (6) 20% 30 total votes Your vote: Would you recommend Sea vs Stork? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No
Both players opt for very greedy openings, a standard macro game in which one player harasses and macros to victory, this was a good game. + Show Spoiler [Losers Game] +Poll: Would you recommend s2 vs. Flying?Yes (10) 50% No (10) 50% 20 total votes Your vote: Would you recommend s2 vs. Flying? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No
A standard PvZ with nothing too special, but an entertaining game nonetheless, I would recommend you watch it if you have time. + Show Spoiler [Final Game] +Poll: Would you recommend s2 vs Stork?No (12) 57% Yes (9) 43% 21 total votes Your vote: Would you recommend s2 vs Stork? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No
One player abuses drop to the max while another makes some critical errors that led to his defeat.
How to watch:
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Stork is going to get Hyuk'd!
...er s2'd.
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9069 Posts
the group of death, damn. everyone aside from flying could advance
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Hoping for Sea and Stork to get through! Though I am prepared to see some upsets.
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Sea and Stork better get through :S
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Stork and Sea will make it through. Stork is done fooling around - Terran better start getting scared. And he can handle S2's Zerg.
I gleefully predict Both Stork and Sea making it to at least Ro16.
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Sea showed signs of his old self again, hopefully he'll snap out of his slump and make it out of this group, as I think he should.
Stork hasn't been great, but solid. Don't think there will be any upsets in this group: Sea and Stork advance!
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Man I like this group. Stork you should like not suck okay?
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sorry for the noob question, but both of these games are streamed, right?
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Sea fighting!
my predictions:
Sea <Fighting Spirit> Flying
Flying has beaten Sea before. Sea has shown a weakness to the abusive protoss style of play (i.e. Carriers), and Fighting Spirit has proven to be a pretty tough TvP lategame map. I'd give Flying the edge here, but it can really go either way because Sea is really the better player.
s2 <Fighting Spirit> Stork
Stork just recently beat s2. It's ZvP, so it could go either way, especially given that I personally don't know much about each player, but knowing Stork to be a top-tier player, I'm giving him the edge.
Stork <Match Point> Flying
Eh, Stork is the pretty obvious favorite to win this one. Not much to say.
Sea <Match Point> s2
Sea has very strong and consistent TvZ. s2 is on a hot streak, but I just don't think he can take a game off of Sea.
Sea <Triathlon>Flying
Mostly a fanboy vote. Neither player has played a televised TvP game on this map before. It's a weird map, and so I have no idea what to expect. But I love Sea and hope that he pulls through.
Stork advances 2-0 Sea advances 2-1 Flying is eliminated 1-2 s2 is eliminated 0-2
But I'm just bored. All I care about is that Sea advances.
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On June 10 2010 09:22 Megalisk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 09:18 disciple wrote:the group of death, damn. everyone aside from flying could advance Yeah the obvious people would be Sea and Stork, but if we are lucky we may get some surprises. Group 7 is pretty hardcore as well, with fOrGG, ZerO, July, and Britney. Forgg and Zero are just going to rape unless july pulls some Tushin shit. Its really sad because I want to see july perform well .
id like to see zero v forgg, i enjoy zero's zvt
sick of watching him get mauled in zvz :C
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ZerO v fOrGG would be nearly as awesome as Stork v Sea. May both happen, gods be praised.
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On June 10 2010 11:17 JohnColtrane wrote: sorry for the noob question, but both of these games are streamed, right?
Yes each game is separate and will played one by one.
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Flying and Stork! Protosssssss.
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s2 is on fire in Proleague... Would not be surprized if he advanced. Sea/Stork... one will fail and not advance though... which... I think Stork.
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looks to me the most likely situation
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staying up for this woot !
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oh man. I think if stork loses to S2 again, he's going to be so crushed mentally that he will never leave his slump. S2 will the FBH to Stork's savior lol
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On June 10 2010 12:12 Ideas wrote: oh man. I think if stork loses to S2 again, he's going to be so crushed mentally that he will never leave his slump. S2 will the FBH to Stork's savior lol
wtf are you talking about T_T
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s2 advances 2-0. you know its coming.
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On June 10 2010 12:12 Ideas wrote: oh man. I think if stork loses to SK Zerg again, he's going to be so crushed mentally that he will never leave his slump. S2 will the FBH to Stork's savior lol
fixed
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United States10327 Posts
stork 2-0 sea 2-1 hopefully
though flying and s2 have been playing pretty well recently
also lol sea vs s2 --> sea.s2 WHAT THE
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On June 10 2010 12:16 majesty.k)seRapH wrote: s2 advances 2-0. you know its coming. I wouldn't be surprised. But his ZvT is a bit unproven, and Sea will probably take out Flying to meet him in the winner match.
Everyone else, don't be surprised if Stork falls to s2. Stork isn't playing close to his peak, and s2 is decently strong vs P. And of course the current state of PvZ strategy is pretty dismal.
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On June 10 2010 12:06 JohnColtrane wrote:looks to me the most likely situation
I want this too :<
Go Stork and Sea!
Hasn't Sea traditionally(?) lost to Stork?
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On June 10 2010 11:46 Crisium wrote: ZerO v fOrGG would be nearly as awesome as Stork v Sea. May both happen, gods be praised.
fantasy vs Snow in Group 6 could be potentially awesome as well.
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On June 10 2010 12:18 ]343[ wrote: stork 2-0 sea 2-1 hopefully
though flying and s2 have been playing pretty well recently
also lol sea vs s2 --> sea.s2 WHAT THE
haha
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GOOD LUCK YUM BO SUNG <3 gogo MBSea!
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On June 10 2010 12:15 endy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 12:12 Ideas wrote: oh man. I think if stork loses to S2 again, he's going to be so crushed mentally that he will never leave his slump. S2 will the FBH to Stork's savior lol wtf are you talking about T_T
oh god oops. SKT zerg are so interchangable lol
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On June 10 2010 12:18 ]343[ wrote: stork 2-0 sea 2-1 hopefully
though flying and s2 have been playing pretty well recently
also lol sea vs s2 --> sea.s2 WHAT THE
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Sea and s2, sorry stork, it's not you, it's PvZ.
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On June 10 2010 12:38 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 12:18 ]343[ wrote: stork 2-0 sea 2-1 hopefully
though flying and s2 have been playing pretty well recently
also lol sea vs s2 --> sea.s2 WHAT THE ?
Sea.s2 is one of NaDa's AKA's according to TLPD.
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For some reason I am really worrying for Stork. Hoping he can make it through. I like Sea, Flying, and S2, but Sea is usually good to go in survivor and I'm rooting for him. This is a crazy group and I could see any player advancing, but I'll be rooting for the (semi) old schoolers.
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Gogo Stork and Flying! Protoss fighting!
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On June 10 2010 12:21 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Hasn't Sea traditionally(?) lost to Stork?
Stork has won 9 out of 10 encounters in individual league matches and is 12-5 overall vs Sea. Hopefully both can slip through though.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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STORK BRING HOME THE BACON
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Pretty strong group. I hope Stork pulls through.
I really want to see a strong toss this season.
Btw. Kentor: Kick-ass music :D
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Yoshi's Island music is key to enjoying pre-game StarCraft.
Go Stork!
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Some epic groups tonight. Stork and Sea are favorites I suppose but Id like Flying and Stork to advance. Seas turtle style play has been boring me lately.
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gogo flying, stork!
sea will choke like an epic disappointment
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Wow 4 strong players playing in group 5. YES, s2 is a strong player.
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I'm only upset that I have to watch this TvP first. Hopefully Sea puts Flying out of his misery quickly.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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So few qualified tosses...it WOULD be nice to see more protosses in the MSL proper, but the T1 fan in me sez s2 all the way.
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On June 10 2010 13:04 InTheFade wrote: I'm only upset that I have to watch this TvP first. Hopefully Sea puts Flying out of his misery quickly.
Dont underestimate him. Flying is 2-0 vs Sea and his innovative/abusive style does well against Sea's robotic style in my opinion.
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Sea looking half-sleeping - Flying looking focused.
Hoping for a good TvP!
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s2 is the clear favorite here ... he's on an unbelievable 5-winning streak and a very solid T1 zerg ... thus he should sail through to the next round with a comfortable 2-0 victory here ... ezpz
the remaining spot should belong to either Stork or Flying ... though I gotta say Stork is slightly favored since he's ... well Stork ...
Sea, sadly, has always been choking in individual league ... and this MST should be no exception
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It's starting!
Sea Blue T at 7
Flying teal Toss at 5
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Sea the blue terran at 7! Flying the green toss at 5!
They battle to show their fighting spirit!
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Sea landing as the blue terran at bottom left Flying warping in as the teal protoss at bottom right FIGHTING SPIRIT
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Sea forgoes walling with his first depot, building it by the geyser.
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Gateway first for Flying. No 12Nex shenanigans.
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NO LIVESTREAM I DON'T CARE WHO THEY ARE GIMME BACK MY STARCRAFT!
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On June 10 2010 13:07 Zona wrote: Sea looking half-sleeping - Flying looking focused.
Hoping for a good TvP! Both look pretty sleepy imo.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On June 10 2010 13:07 nayumi wrote: s2 is the clear favorite here ... he's on an unbelievable 5-winning streak and a very solid T1 zerg ... Never thought I'd live to see this day.
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Sea getting his rax, both players getting their gasses.
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Flying scouting after core... that's pretty late.
Probe get into the main though.
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Flying scouting the right way - Sea's first rine probably won't be in time to stop the scout - Factory starts
Sea scouts Flying in time to see the core finish
First zealot done and heads out to harass.
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Extremely standard builds thus far.
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: One of them just has to fail. Who will it be?Sea (3) 60% Stork (1) 20% Both! (1) 20% 5 total votes Your vote: One of them just has to fail. Who will it be? (Vote): Stork (Vote): Sea (Vote): Both!
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Nothign spectacular going on early game.
Both scouting the right direction, still no expo from either player.
First zealot out, making his way to Seas base to do some scouting.
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First zealot slowly making its way to sea's base Sea has has first fact under construction Most likely Siege expand inc
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Flying getting 2 gate range.
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zealot/probe breaks the 2 rines/scv at Sea's ramp and kills one rine but another rine emerges and the zealot is driven away while the probe dies
2nd gate, goon range! while sea gets his machine shop immediately
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Sea building a somewhat large rine force - 5 out already and more on the way
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1 vult, 5 rines and tank on the move!
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Sea's next scouting SCV sees no expo at flying's nat moving out with 1 tank 6 rines and one scv, 1 vulture rallied as mines probably are researching
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Scv scout barely gets denied. Sea expanding and pushing out with marine/tank.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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Sea moving out quickly, taking his expo.
1 tank, 1 vult, couple of rines.
Goon micro > tank, but vult in flyings main
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Flying pushing Sea back with 4 goons and a zealot - tank is sniped!
sea starts his nat
flying starts his nat too, a vulture laying mines at flying's nat
sea cancels his nat!
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 10 2010 13:10 InTheFade wrote:Extremely standard builds thus far. + Show Spoiler +Poll: One of them just has to fail. Who will it be?Sea (3) 60% Stork (1) 20% Both! (1) 20% 5 total votes Your vote: One of them just has to fail. Who will it be? (Vote): Stork (Vote): Sea (Vote): Both!
Who would want to even say?
Also, Sea goes for a FD, but Flying went two gate. Ruh roh.
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Tank snipe!
Wow, nice micro from Flying denies Sea's expo but theres a vulture in the main....
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Gotta say, sweet moves by Flying
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Flying's nat is up while Sea starts an in base CC
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sea's vulture picking off a few probes in flying's main - but a goon emerges from the gateways to stop it
Sea adding a factory and a CC in main, building rines again
Flying lucky that the mine by his gateway didn't explode as he transferred probes.
Reavertech incoming!
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Sea forced to cancel his expo, but he pushes out again with siege done. Some mine damage to goons.
Flying going for reaver before obs?
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Looks like Flying wants to keep up the heat, reaver harass coming.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Huge scarab hits all three tanks, killing one and -99'ing the others!
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Huhhhh obs would have made a lot more sense lol
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Sea's in-main CC finishes and floats towards his nat - Sea's not in good shape after that early failure
Still he has a mine still there in front of Flying's nat choke
Shuttle loads up zealots - then drops them?
reaver being loaded - dropped to defend sea's 2nd attack - 2 vultures get into flying's main!
big mine kills 2 goons behind - mines causing flying a LOT of trouble - another 2 goons killed by mines!
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MINE DAEBAK gets like 7 probes
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Push incoming from sea. 3 tanks 2 vults a few rines.
Vults get into the main
MINE
Flying looking worried.
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Flying getting a reaver. Engineering bay finishes for Sea. Sea pushes out.
Vultures in the main doing a lot of damage.
Wow, mine drag into probes.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Oh mine gets two goons. And a bunch of maynarding probes LOL
Two scarabs raping probes, they survive a dud scarab.
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BYE BYE SHUTTLE AND REAVER
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2 vultures dealing damage from behind flying's nat mineral line - but this atatck is cleaned up for now
flying adding another 2 gateways, to 4
Sea's made up a lot of ground with that adding factories - to 4, and another machine shop
shuttle with reaver heads to sea's main - but turrets limit its options
shuttle dies to a turret and dropped reaver dies immediately!
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Reaver harass gets denied.
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Drop denied.
Flying is fucked
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Shuttle gets turreted! Reaver dropped! It dies to tanks!
Seaaaaaa!
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Yep, Flying fail, as I predicted.
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Flying loses his shuttle+reaver at seas nat, this is not looking good..
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3 vults with perfect timing snipe the probe heading to 3 to expo
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wow flying loses shuttle+reaver to nice turrets
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Probe trying to build a nexus gets sniped. Sea going 6 fact.
I think Flying is gonna die.
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Flying now expanding to 3 - Sea moving out with 5 tanks and has a bunch of vultures roaming around
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Sea sieges beyond flying's bridge - Flying only fighting with 5 goons and taking lots of splash damage
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Wow, terrible control from Flying. This push is raping him pretty hard.
Sea taking his third.
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ONe zealot bomb would cause terrible terrible damage.
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Flying going pure goon+obs.
Walking into sieged tanks is NOT a good idea. Holding sea off by a hair so far, but it's unlikely that this game will go on for much longer.
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Finally flying bringing the goons that were sitting at his nat
Sea expanding to 9 - in good shape - leapfrogging tanks towards Flying's nat!
Flying adding another 2 gates, to 6 - a new shuttle picks up 3 zealots to bomb
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Flying started the game on 2 gate; about 9 minutes later, he still only had 4
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Shuttle dies but bombs kill 2 tanks, not a bad haul - a pathetic few amount of goons move forwards to attack and get cut down
sea with a vulture at the newly-finished nexus at 3, no probes there
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Wow, that was a really nice mine drag. Too bad Flying has no units left.
Oh yeah his third is pretty much dead too.
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yea sea slowly movign closer and seiging flyings nat
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citadel is up - Sea leapfrogging tanks within range of Flying's nat pylon - and adding more turrets
2 more tanks on their way, Flying in bad shape
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Sea pushing into flyings nat. This is it.
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This game is over. Sea all up in Flying's nat.
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hero vulture will take the nexus
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Bye flying, see you in the loser's game.
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Sea with good micro stops the first mine drag by the zealot bomb, the second one succeeds to take out one tank but that's not enough
the one vulture taking down the nex at 3 down to hull hp
Sea moving a bit closer - Flying chooses this time to move forwards and attacks!
he doesn't focus on the tanks and they're cutting down his goons while the zealots evaporate to vultures
Flying concedes!
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flying gg's
sea wins!
i hope he can go through!
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 10 2010 13:19 InTheFade wrote: Flying started the game on 2 gate; about 9 minutes later, he still only had 4 Sea's multitasking and micro on that second push of his (after he got his cc finished) was just too strong for Flying.
GG.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Flying tries one last breakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk. Whoops clearly it won't work. GG from Flying.
Fuck yeah Seaking!
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Sea's head rocks back in relief. 1/1 predictions so far for me!
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why did i ever think it was a good idea to liquibet a protoss :/
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When Flying forced Sea to cancel his natural, the logical thing to do was takes some expos, macro up and roll him over while Sea turtled. That was just bad.
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GG
Sea not looking too happy, but he pulled through convincingly.
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Waaaaah streamuuuuuu!!!!!
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Woo Bo-sung-ah! Way to fit my liquibet! I'm sure Flying will have his second chance in the loser's match and final game tonight though.
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wtf why sea make this ass face
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On June 10 2010 13:25 Mafiozo wrote: wtf why sea make this ass face Something lost in translation here?
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Now time to see the rising T1 zerg s2 face off against the recovering protoss great Stork!
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Please vote in OP if you would recommend this game or not, I will also be doing this for every other game.
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For some reason I think S2 looks like the twins.
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s2 too looking serious as he practices his serious clicking. He's 0-2 in MBC leagues with no games vs P, but that will change today.
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Stork has really big arms O_O
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Stork looking calm...he expends some effort adjusting his monitor facing. His typing is like a pianist...I hope he's ready!
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Stork is not messing around!
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On June 10 2010 13:28 King K. Rool wrote: For some reason I think S2 looks like the twins. Looks like half twins half hyuk to me. He's got the hyuk cheekbones.
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On June 10 2010 13:25 Mafiozo wrote: wtf why sea make this ass face
Interesting first post.
Wait what..you've been registered since 2003 >.<
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 10 2010 13:27 Megalisk wrote: Please vote in OP if you would recommend this game or not, I will also be doing this for every other game. I like the little descriptions that some people put as well. What some people like in games is not always what other people like to watch.
Something like; "Fast game, winner reverses an initial disadvantage with excellent push micro."
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Stork gonna rape this chobo.
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I really like the poll option MegaLisk!
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stork, please go reavers not arbiters this time
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Yes it's pretty cute Megalisk. Like you.
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s2 vs. Stork starting on Fighting Spirit
Stork blue protoss at 1 s2 teal zerg at 5
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s2 the teal zerg at 5. Stork the blue toss at 1. Time to display their FIGHTING SPIRIT!
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
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Stork scouting correctly - will let him tailor his build order appropriately
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Stork scouting in the right direction. S2 going overpool.
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Stork going for FE, scouting in the right direction, but probe is seen by the OL
Overpool from s2
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overpool -- the deadliest build of all!!! save for five other builds
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overpool, it looks like, for s2
a little cute probe harass - and a probe heading towards s2's nat to deny
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forge first, as appropriate
probe doing a good job of denying s2's nat - but s2 has actually expanded to 6 already
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Stork being annoying at the nat but s2 goes for his third first.
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On June 10 2010 13:30 ella_guru wrote: I really like the poll option MegaLisk!
^^ for the record, it wasn't my idea
And flamewheel I'm not cute , but I will be by the end of this summer, but thats a topic for another day :D
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s2 only spawns 2 lings - does stork realize it? stork follows up with a nexus, and one cannon
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Stork takes his gas - his scouting probe is still alive
s2 takes his nat, so far so good
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On June 10 2010 13:33 Megalisk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 13:30 ella_guru wrote: I really like the poll option MegaLisk! ^^ for the record, it wasn't my idea And flamewheel I'm not cute , but I will be by the end of this summer, but thats a topic for another day :D Cosmetic surgery? I'm down.
Any, super-duper-standardness all around thus far.
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France2061 Posts
s2 I believe -- walk the Royal Road!
Oh wait
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s2 starts his lair right in view of stork's probe pumping drones like crazy
stork taking his 2nd gas - starts his stargate.
PvZ openings are so stale
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 10 2010 13:34 TheTeamLiquidTiger wrote: sneaky play by s2 How so?
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Everything is super normal so far. Stargate going up for Stork. Lair up for S2
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On June 10 2010 13:34 InTheFade wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 13:33 Megalisk wrote:On June 10 2010 13:30 ella_guru wrote: I really like the poll option MegaLisk! ^^ for the record, it wasn't my idea And flamewheel I'm not cute , but I will be by the end of this summer, but thats a topic for another day :D Cosmetic surgery? I'm down. Any, super-duper-standardness all around thus far.
More like weight-loss and other stuff..I'll be making a blog pretty soon xD
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Spire immediately as Lair finishes
Stork's probe sees exactly how many drones s2 has at his 3rd.
Robo for stork.
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Spire is started and Stork going Sair/reaver :D
awesome
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Fast stargate from Stork.
Looks like sair/reaver
Please don't fail + Show Spoiler +
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On June 10 2010 13:34 Zona wrote: PvZ openings are so stale Yes! Exactly!
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I'm loving the 2 extra drones s2 has even though it works against stork
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On June 10 2010 13:33 Megalisk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 13:30 ella_guru wrote: I really like the poll option MegaLisk! ^^ for the record, it wasn't my idea And flamewheel I'm cute , but I will be cuter by the end of this summer, but thats a topic for another day :D I fixed it!
Also if I say you're cute you're cute so you're cute :3
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4th hatch for s2 at his 3rd
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first sair shooting at an OL at s2's nat 5th hatch for s2 at his nat.
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Sair reaver..please don't pull a Shuttle storkuuu
Oh wait I'm going for s2..RAPE THAT FOOL!
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+1 air coming from Stork along with support bay.
Corsair gets an overlord kill. Going for another one but spire is done.
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two sairs killing another OL at s2's nat still no scourge.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
God Sair/Reaver is so sexy. Let's see it done right, Stork!
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reavertech done for stork - stork moving out with 4 zealots is that an evo chamber walling off s2's nat?
stork has already massed 4 sairs - might be dangerous for s2
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Citadel of Adun going down for stork. Interesting.
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Stork barely dodges the scourge.
S2 starting hydra production.
Reaver is already out. Citadel starting already?
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Sair-reaver? s2 should go for the HyuN-style air force counter.
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sairs have reached critical mass
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Stork with near critical mass of corsairs snipes a pair of scourges chilling in his main.
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s2 starting to add hydra stork adding citadel oh, it wasn't a hatch at the 3rd but a hydra den?
scourge take a peek at stork's base
they over and bait the sairs to come over but stork with his 5 sairs finish them off
another hatch at s2's 3rd will be on 6 hatches soon.
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S2 decides to throw away some more scourge. Still making pretty much hydra only.
Wow, instead of expanding, Stork adds 3 gates.
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On June 10 2010 13:38 InTheFade wrote:Sair-reaver? s2 should go for the HyuN-style air force counter.
Hyun managed to do that because shuttle let him get a ridiculous amount of drones..I dont think s2 did this..
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s2 doesn't even need to bury his infolings
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shuttle moving out with sair support....ahh stream freezu!
one sair sniped
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Critical mass achieved, Stork heads out with his reaver to do some damage.
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I tihnk s2 wants to doom drop, he's got ovie speed done and some ovies grouped that aren't near any spore
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zergling finds a probe laying a pylon for a potential third: forces cancel
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Drop spotted by ling. Not sure if Stork expected hydras.
Pulls back to defend.
Sair/shuttle manouvering to avoid hydra bunch. Not sure how well that is going..
Stork taking his third at long last.
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s2 with a good number of hydra at each base to deny sair attacks a ling finds stork building a pylon at 3, forces it to cancel and chases the probe back to the natural
stork has 3 templar charging energy
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Holy shit Stork has 7 gateways.
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Reaver temp, the ultimate protoss combo of gay. I wonder how stork will use it.,
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It's interesting, because Stork played against n.Die_soO on the same map and the same starting positions, against pretty much similiar Zerg opening in SKT vs KHAN match. Looks like he learned from his mistakes and managed to keep his scouting Probe alive for much longer.
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loses 6 hydra for nothing to 2 scarabs
and temps out
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s2's macro is kind of poor... stork can win right now, probably doesn't even need his entire army
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MASSIVE scarab takes out something like 8 hydras
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Lol S2 is just like hmm I should throw away 6 hydra for no reason.
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stork pushing out with nice mix of reaver/shuttle/goon/templar/zealot
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Given stork's sair mass - he should be doing a lot more with it
a few hydra probe stork's nat - 2 scarabs kill like half dozen of them
I don't think a hydra break will work this time
but s2 already has lurkertech and is getting his queen's nest
slowlots with a few goons and templar and an obs moving out reavers in shuttle too
but stork moves to 12 instead - does he plan to expo there?
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thats a monster 2 base amry
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LOL hold lurker doesn't work when there's an observer.
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Stop lurkers dont kill anything Reavers rape everything didn't even need storms
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Stork moving out with a nice unit mix.
Some stop lurkers being a nuicance.
Pushing into the nat.
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hold lurker dealing lots of damage to stork's forces but the reavers are dropped and all the zerg stuff dies
stork with a big army at s2's nat
nice storms killing everything
s2 in deep shit.
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stop lurkers! However, Stork wins the battle. Reaches s2's nat
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daaaamn
almost gets the shuttle, but reavers drop and massacre everything
doesn't look like s2 was prepared for a ground army at all
this is probably game, stork camping the nat
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Don't you just love toss?
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Looks like s2's idle larva build wasn't very effective. Boooo!
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storm/scarab massacre, this is all but over
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Rofl S2 getting pounded apart with 2 base worth of units.
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lol rolled. 90% of backup hydras were dead before they got into shooting position.
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s2 with a hydra attack from behind - storms kill 80% of them and scarabs finish the rest
s2's nat being taken down - it's over
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lol, Stork doesn't even need a third base
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Stork pushin into the main.
GG
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HOLY SHIT THAT FLANK IT FUCKING EVAPORATED INSTANTLY!
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2 reavers dropped in s2's main - s2 concedes
Stork advances to the winner's game!
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stork brings a handful of zealots to s2's main. They go to work on the sunken colony there. Shortly, s2 ggs.
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Anyone who recommends either of the first two games is on crack. Horrible LoL
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United States8476 Posts
That was such textbook storming
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sea must b shitting his pants after seeing that performance
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Stork with a smile in the waiting room s2 hanging his head as he sits beside the coach the coach pats his neck - you can still advance with 2 wins, c'mon!
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United States32480 Posts
jesus that was some beautiful storming o_O
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Awesome play from Stork. Looking pleased as well.
Though rape, I'd recommend the game if only because PvZ so seldom is a rape in that direction nowadays.
Stork for MSL title!
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Sea drinking something other than Pocari sweat. He doesn't have the edge!
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wow those guys make PvZ look so imbalanced
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On June 10 2010 13:44 InTheFade wrote: Anyone who recommends either of the first two games is on crack. Horrible LoL How can you not like sair/reaver?
or perfect storms?
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s2 just got manhandled... It's painful to see 30 Hydras killing only 3 Dragoons...
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that game was amazing. if i had the eapm to pull of sair reaver id do that 2 base push every game..
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Games like this remind me why Stork is my favourite player.
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On June 10 2010 13:45 De4ngus wrote: How can you not like sair/reaver?
That was hardly what sair/reaver is supposed to be, haha. Though there were some pretty hydra explosions.
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goes to show that Soo > s2
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On June 10 2010 13:47 Crisium wrote: Games like this remind me why Stork is my favourite player. amen
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oh, that's tarja singing on bro's stream
that makes sense, it sounded so familiar, but I didn't recognize the song
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lets go birdtoss sea vs stork inc
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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Would be nice to get 2 toss out of this group but I can't see Flying beating either Sea or Stork in the one loss game.
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Reavers own at that choke
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
s2 just did absolutely nothing that game.
I mean, he did well to build his econ, and then he did a good job of not giving Stork anywhere to harass. And he was using his initial zerglings to great effect in scouting,
But then he just sat there, and kept his hydralisk army split up all over the place, got lurkers way too late, never simcitied anything, never got a fourth (in part because Stork forced him into taking a third and not another natural) and then he couldn't get his army together in time, and couldn't micro multiple groups of hydras at the same time, and he died immediately to a strong but far from unbeatable push. It's like he treated sair/reaver as all-in, and was just hoping Stork would suicide his shuttle or something.
Summary: "Loser does nothing, gets rolled."
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Sea vs Stork starting. Man, Stork is looking gaunt again these days.
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Winners game on Match Point?
Sea vs. Stork.
Stork as brown protoss at 7 Sea as orange terran at 1
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matchpoint stork bottom left sea top right
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On June 10 2010 13:53 tree.hugger wrote:s2 just did absolutely nothing that game. I mean, he did well to build his econ, and then he did a good job of not giving Stork anywhere to harass. And he was using his initial zerglings to great effect in scouting, But then he just sat there, and kept his hydralisk army split up all over the place, got lurkers way too late, never simcitied anything, never got a fourth (in part because Stork forced him into taking a third and not another natural) and then he couldn't get his army together in time, and couldn't micro multiple groups of hydras at the same time, and he died immediately to a strong but far from unbeatable push. It's like he treated sair/reaver as all-in, and was just hoping Stork would suicide his shuttle or something. Summary: "Loser does nothing, gets rolled." Yeah, Stork fans are loving it, but s2 was just bad :/
oh, another TvP on match point... gross
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Lol 12 nex. Pretty normal coming from Stork.
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stork nexus first while sea goes normal rax/gas
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Sea rax/gas. Stork 12-nexus: amazing how that has become pretty much standard play by now.
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Stork 12nex.
Sea scouting after fac started.
This could get interesting.
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On June 10 2010 13:53 tree.hugger wrote:s2 just did absolutely nothing that game. I mean, he did well to build his econ, and then he did a good job of not giving Stork anywhere to harass. And he was using his initial zerglings to great effect in scouting, But then he just sat there, and kept his hydralisk army split up all over the place, got lurkers way too late, never simcitied anything, never got a fourth (in part because Stork forced him into taking a third and not another natural) and then he couldn't get his army together in time, and couldn't micro multiple groups of hydras at the same time, and he died immediately to a strong but far from unbeatable push. It's like he treated sair/reaver as all-in, and was just hoping Stork would suicide his shuttle or something. Summary: "Loser does nothing, gets rolled."
Stork did an excellent job of pretending he was expanding(and getting repeatedly 'shut down'), when in reality it was an extreme 2-base push.
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Sea starts his factory, both player's scouts meet at the middle - stork tries to attack but his probe but fails
just one scv on gas after factory
marine denies the probe but it sees nothing in Sea's nat.
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Sea scouts the 12nex pretty late. Looks like he's just going vulture expand now.
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On June 10 2010 13:53 tree.hugger wrote: (Z)s2 just did absolutely nothing that game.
I mean, he did well to build his econ, and then he did a good job of not giving (P)Stork anywhere to harass. And he was using his initial zerglings to great effect in scouting,
But then he just sat there, and kept his hydralisk army split up all over the place, got lurkers way too late, never simcitied anything, never got a fourth (in part because Stork forced him into taking a third and not another natural) and then he couldn't get his army together in time, and couldn't micro multiple groups of hydras at the same time, and he died immediately to a strong but far from unbeatable push. It's like he treated sair/reaver as all-in, and was just hoping Stork would suicide his shuttle or something.
Summary: "Loser does nothing, gets rolled."
Nice summary, I agree. Was very one-sided. I liked it just for the last battle. Haven't seen something so weirdly one-sided in ages.
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Sea willing to play the macro game, it seems. Expands with only two rines and a vult.
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Core for stork.
@baubo, yeah that was a big part of it.
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First vultures scoring 3 probe kills - and more in the main
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oo a pesky vulture getting a few kills!
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4 probe kills
could've gotten 6-7 if he'd microed better
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LoL sea's vulture micro needs a lot of work
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Vult gets into the main. Gets 4 probes and scouts everything before getting shut down.
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Vulture has 4 kills then shoots like 10 times and doesn't get another kill lol.
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nice vult gets 4 kills sea pickign up his nat and possibly a 3rd?
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4 probe kills in all - lots of damage dealt but mostly not on the same probes
Sea's expo is up and running, mines are done
Sea ALSO expanding to 3.
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SEA IS TAKING A THIRD ALREADY THAT MADMAN!
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Sea getting a THIRD before his second factory?
MADNESS
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Sea going 1 fac double expo trying to be greedier than Stork.
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France2061 Posts
This is the "fuck you 12 nex" strat.
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Stork defusing mines stork-style.
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Stork's goons taking a lot of mine damage
Sea getting his ebay, while Stork's robo finishes.
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sea has been studying flash's greatness.
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Uh oh Stork got hurt pretty bad by that mine. Good thing Sea in't doing any sort of aggressive push.
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It's the MVP build! I hope. fast 3rd into 10 fact push
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Observatory coming for stork
another 2 vultures heading into stork's main - 2 probe kills so far but mostly to scout as the remaining vulture takes a tour of the area.
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Vultures gets into the main and kills a probe. Stork still not getting his third.
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vult harass doing a good job of keeping stork pinned in his base
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Sea is doing great so far.
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stork adding 2 gates, to 4, while sea adds his 3rd and 4th factories.
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Another couple of vults get into the main. Sea with complete map control until obs are out.
Already turreting against drops.
Stork adding two gates for a total of four.
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Sea expanding to 9 - Sea could have a devastating timing as it comes up
Stork adding a 5th gate and citadel.
First obs is out
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stork picks up his 3rd MUCH later than sea
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Stork adding 3 gates Sea adding 2 factories Time for a good old macro game :D
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Cancel that, 5 gates. Also setting up his third but it's way later than Seas.
Stream laaaagggg
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Sea adding a 5th fact and an academy, while Stork adds a 6th gate, tribunal, and stargate
both players not really engaging.
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Arbiter tech on the way. Stork has a lot of gateways.
Armory done for Sea.
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Armory done for Sea - at a pretty vulnerable spot if you ask me
Stork clearing mines with his goon/obs
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Stork's obs gets some info from Sea's base. goons clearing mines in the middle and in Stork's 4th.
Sea making a vulture push to the middle.
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arbiter tribunal starts for stork sea starts moving out with 5 tanks and escorting vults/rines
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Push incoming. 6 or so tanks and whole bunch of vults. Tribunal on the way.
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The infamous Match Point nat abuse area is Sea's target - he sieges there unopposed.
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hmmm yessss
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arb tech inc while sea going for the "seige low ground on teh nat" push
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Sea going for Stork's natural but Stork should have enough units to deal with this.
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stork is getting fustigated
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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Stork can't even approach the tank mass as mines block the approach
5 slow zealots emerge to the rally point - Sea adding a lot of vultures
Stork attacking with a sandwich, gonna kill the push but sea with 5 vultures attacking 9
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wth stork doesnt have zealot speed yet
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Tanks join the vults, sieging under sea's nat. mines in the middle stop Stork's goons from surrounding from behind.
Goons finally clearing the mines from behind and moving in on Sea's tanks.
More vults attack Stork's min only.
Stork defends but loses some probes.
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wow, amazing pylon wall into probe running by stork
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While all of this happened, sea has taken a 4th.
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Stork walls off the mineral line with pylons and retreats his probes behind, saving most of them - Sea has to withdraw his vultures, and expands to 5
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Stork cleans up the attack ez but Sea is taking a 4th now.
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On June 10 2010 14:04 sung_moon wrote: wth stork doesnt have zealot speed yet
Super fast tech to Arbiters, no gas for Zealot Speed.
Phew, Stork scared me for a second with those Vultures at his 3rd.
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Hmm, Sea probably could have done more damage with that attack had he kept his vults with his tanks, but this outcome isn't bad either.
First arbiter out, Stork finally expanding to 11.
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Sandwich cleans up the push, but vults at the third stop mining there for a while as well.
Stork on his back heel as Sea gets a fourth.
Sea showing how to handle 12nex.
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4 vultures in Stork's main - but they just shoot at buildings...
but the mines they laid kill 2 goons!
3 vultures attacking the warping nex at 11.
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Stork still fending off vult harass in his bases. Sea using this opprotunity to take his 4th already.
Stork tries to take his 4th, but it is getting attacked by vults while warping.
Vults in Stork's main mine up and harass. Stork loses 2 goons to mines there.
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Vulture drop in the main. Looks annoying but doesn't kill much.
Ouch 2 dragoons die to mines.
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Good to see that no matter how the times changes, Stork still runs goons into mines.
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Sea attacking towards 9 with pure vult vs goons, using mines to deal a little damage he's getting the worst of it though
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Vultures are so annoying wtf who made those things.
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First vessel out, Sea on 8 facts, uses goliaths/vessels to snipe the pesky spying observer over his factories
Sea pumping units out at a fast rate
Stork moving his army mid-map, a probe heading towards 6.
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Stork's 4th finishes. goons hold off the constant vult harass. Sea's 4th has been up and mining for a couple miutes though.
Stork massing up units in the middle, Sea also masses up by his min only.
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Sea's army moving out to the center as stork's army pulls back - vulture snipes the probe that headed to 12 (not 6)
arbiter heading into Sea's main!
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First arb is out, but Stork is getting hit hard by vult harrass...
Fourth up and running for both players. Vessel out for Sea.
Big blob of goonlot meets terran ball?
Obs sniped left and right
RECALL!
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RECALL
ALL OVER THE FACTS
sea going for the counter
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SEA HAS DECIDED TO COUNTER AT STORKS NAT
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huge recall in main althou this will prolly make sea pusher harder and fastrer
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recall by the factories - Sea pusing right into Stork's natural instead and brings in a small tank force is there to defend the recall with a vessel
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Recall in the main on the factories! ...Sea not caring about the factories?
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LoL bad recall timing. Sea's just gonna roll over Storks bases now
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Sea goes for the counter instead of going back to his main, which is getting wrecked.
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zealots and goons taking down the starport and facility
Sea still controls Stork's nat ramp
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Oh cool, sea plays with minimap terrain off.
So sea and shine are the only players I've seen who do that.
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Recall in Sea's base, no mines at all.
Sea pushing into Stork's nat meanwhile and moves some units to his main to defend.
Sea losing supply depos and factories in his main. Finally holds off the recall
Stork losing his natural. Nexus goes down.
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stork does a good amount of damage, but loses his army and his nat in the process
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Stork's recall finished off - Sea destroys Stork's nat nexus, vulture shoots at the warping nex at 12
4 vultures dropped into the main, mines laid!
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Stork loses his nat. TvP on this map is pretty depressing.
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VULT DROPS!
but does like 0 damage
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o snap stork taking an end around to attack and block off reinforncements
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France2061 Posts
Sea is on fire with his vultures in this game.
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stork abusing arbiters to cloak his dts
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stork adding 2 dts to his unit mix - they die immediately
stork attacking the top tanks while leaving the right tanks to decimate his army...horribad
finally sea's attack is cleane dup - but sea moving out with more than a group of tanks and 2 groups of vultures - attacking 9 now!
doesn't even need to siege
4 tanks frozen though!
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Massive amounts of units coming in from Sea. Stork is pretty screwed.
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great stasis forming an awesome wall blocking sea's tanks
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Hey Stork, how do you plan on getting up the ramp now?
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Stork attemptint to bring in more forces from above, finally clearing's sea's first force, however sea is now pushing with a much larger force into Stork's min only. Sea sieges on the highground.
Stork GGs.
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The tanks siege as Stork's army approaches goons melt and Sotrk concedes!
Sea advances 2-0!
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Seaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! \o/
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France2061 Posts
Sea seized control with that double expand and the vulture harass and never let go. I expect s2 to roll Flying and get a rematch vs Byung Goo.
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On June 10 2010 14:10 Vivi57 wrote: stork abusing arbiters to cloak his dts Oh shit double stealth.
But Stork GG's, Sea wins.
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What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them?
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Sea snipes the nat while stork recalls his main.
Stork finally cleans up the first push, but more is on the way towards the third.
Stork GGs
Very nice play from both players. Recommended.
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Holy tanks batman.
Sea loses his forces at Storks' nat but he has a HUGE force. Even a stasis on 5 tanks doesn't stop him from rolling (since he does have the highground outside the min only)
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No stork...
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dammit... o well stork has 1 more chance
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Way to rape, Sea.
On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote: What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them?
Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored.
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yes, good job sea!
i'm happy he's out
and now, gogogo stork, move out too so i can 3/3 my LB
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damn the only guy who i didnt want to advance goes 2-0
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Oh God, this means I don't get to see a TvZ T_T But anyway, well played by Sea
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On June 10 2010 14:13 vishrut wrote: damn the only guy who i didnt want to advance goes 2-0
why? dont tell me because of your fpl team
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On June 10 2010 14:13 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:13 vishrut wrote: damn the only guy who i didnt want to advance goes 2-0 why? dont tell me because of your fpl team that doesn't make any sense
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On June 10 2010 14:14 InTheFade wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:13 JohnColtrane wrote:On June 10 2010 14:13 vishrut wrote: damn the only guy who i didnt want to advance goes 2-0 why? dont tell me because of your fpl team that doesn't make any sense
oh?
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On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:Way to rape, Sea. Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote: What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them? Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored. Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On June 10 2010 14:14 De4ngus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:Way to rape, Sea. On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote: What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them? Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored. Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map. The PvT stats say otherwise?
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On June 10 2010 14:13 vishrut wrote: damn the only guy who i didnt want to advance goes 2-0
sea is awesome, i'm glad he's out
he is such a good player, but lacks titles
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On June 10 2010 14:14 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:14 InTheFade wrote:On June 10 2010 14:13 JohnColtrane wrote:On June 10 2010 14:13 vishrut wrote: damn the only guy who i didnt want to advance goes 2-0 why? dont tell me because of your fpl team that doesn't make any sense oh? This is the MST, it doesn't affect the FPL...
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On June 10 2010 14:16 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:14 De4ngus wrote:On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:Way to rape, Sea. On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote: What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them? Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored. Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map. The PvT stats say otherwise?
Your statistics are cute :3
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On June 10 2010 14:14 De4ngus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:Way to rape, Sea. On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote: What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them? Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored. Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map. Statistics say otherwise.
While the low ground below the natural is ideal for siege tanks, most of the rest of the map's features favor Protoss.
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On June 10 2010 14:14 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:14 InTheFade wrote:On June 10 2010 14:13 JohnColtrane wrote:On June 10 2010 14:13 vishrut wrote: damn the only guy who i didnt want to advance goes 2-0 why? dont tell me because of your fpl team that doesn't make any sense oh?
no its because protoss is doing really bad so i want as many protoss as possible. Also people should always want skt zergs to qualify
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On June 10 2010 14:17 InTheFade wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:14 JohnColtrane wrote:On June 10 2010 14:14 InTheFade wrote:On June 10 2010 14:13 JohnColtrane wrote:On June 10 2010 14:13 vishrut wrote: damn the only guy who i didnt want to advance goes 2-0 why? dont tell me because of your fpl team that doesn't make any sense oh? This is the MST, it doesn't affect the FPL...
i see
i never do fpl, cut me some slack
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On June 10 2010 14:16 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:14 De4ngus wrote:On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:Way to rape, Sea. On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote: What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them? Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored. Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map. The PvT stats say otherwise?
56% is not exactly a clear indication of the map favoring one race over another. Matchpoint is much more balanced than some of the other proleague maps.
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every match i see on match point toss loses...
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On June 10 2010 14:17 vishrut wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:14 JohnColtrane wrote:On June 10 2010 14:14 InTheFade wrote:On June 10 2010 14:13 JohnColtrane wrote:On June 10 2010 14:13 vishrut wrote: damn the only guy who i didnt want to advance goes 2-0 why? dont tell me because of your fpl team that doesn't make any sense oh? no its because protoss is doing really bad so i want as many protoss as possible. Also people should always want skt zergs to qualify
relax, stork will qualify. with the way s2 played just then, itd be tragic to see him advance any further. and flying lol
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On June 10 2010 14:19 HeadhunteR wrote:every match i see on match point toss loses... every match i see toss loses
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s2 vs Flying...c'mon s2, you can do it.
s2 doesn't look happy.
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On June 10 2010 14:19 HeadhunteR wrote:every match i see on match point toss loses...
Toss is doing pretty bad as a whole lately
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NEO-LuxuryHyuk Fighting!@~
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 10 2010 14:19 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:16 flamewheel wrote:On June 10 2010 14:14 De4ngus wrote:On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:Way to rape, Sea. On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote: What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them? Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored. Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map. The PvT stats say otherwise? 56% is not exactly a clear indication of the map favoring one race over another. Matchpoint is much more balanced than some of the other proleague maps. It may be that MP is more balanced in TvP than other proleague maps, but the sample size is large enough that I think we can say with a fair amount of certainty that Match Point is slightly protoss favored.
EDIT: To respond to criticism down below, I think the sample size also is large enough to assume that there's less of an error with regards to the individual players who played on the map.
Also, it is not at all clear actually, that MP is more balanced than the current crop of proleague maps. On the contrary, it actually appears to be slightly more biased towards protoss than is normal.
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On June 10 2010 14:16 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:14 De4ngus wrote:On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:Way to rape, Sea. On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote: What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them? Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored. Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map. The PvT stats say otherwise? On that note, probably every map says z > p just because p's have been sucking recently so I'm going to call the 56% just a skill difference in the player pool.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On June 10 2010 14:19 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:16 flamewheel wrote:On June 10 2010 14:14 De4ngus wrote:On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:Way to rape, Sea. On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote: What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them? Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored. Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map. The PvT stats say otherwise? 56% is not exactly a clear indication of the map favoring one race over another. Matchpoint is much more balanced than some of the other proleague maps. Hey, if you want to nitpick it's 56.9%, which clearly makes all the difference, right? Just because it isn't as race-biased as other maps doesn't mean that it's Terran-favoured. I fail to see what you're trying to tell me.
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flying the purple toss at 1. s2 the BLOOD red zerg at 7.
Battle takes place on Match Point!
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Purple protoss scum warp in at 7 Our valiant Zerg hero spawns at 1 in red
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Flying and s2 meet on Match point
s2 red zerg at 7, flying purple toss at 1
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Hopefully flying wins this one, that way a toss is guaranteed to make it in this group.
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On June 10 2010 14:16 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:14 De4ngus wrote:On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:Way to rape, Sea. On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote: What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them? Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored. Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map. The PvT stats say otherwise? Most of those terran losses are from mst prelims. Take a look at the names of the terrans who lost. I don't think they'll be winning on any map.
If you look at stuff like proleague, terrans are raping pretty hard.
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Interesting pylon placement..
EDIT: nvm i saw wrong
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On June 10 2010 14:16 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:14 De4ngus wrote:On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:Way to rape, Sea. On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote: What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them? Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored. Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map. The PvT stats say otherwise? Those stats are flooded with Dream League and offlines. It's 35-39 PvT in the non-B-Team leagues.
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On June 10 2010 14:19 HeadhunteR wrote:every match i see on match point toss loses...
Stats for Match Point:
PvT: 112-85 (56.9%)
You clearly watched all games from the wrong 43.1%
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hoping s2 wins so I don't have to watch a pvp
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heres the match ive been waiting for! flying v s2
battle of the downies
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Flying going for the standard FE, s2 with overpool
I wonder where I've seen that before.
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On June 10 2010 14:22 Vivi57 wrote: hoping s2 wins so I don't have to watch a pvp
pvp is good man
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Flying goes nexus first without scouting - good stuff
s2 expands to 11.
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Flying going nexus first
s2 expanding to the top left
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Interesting.
FFE for Flying, and s2 takes the 4th as his first expo.
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On June 10 2010 14:22 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:19 HeadhunteR wrote:every match i see on match point toss loses... Stats for Match Point: PvT: 112-85 (56.9%) You clearly watched all games from the wrong 43.1% No one watches Dream League.
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how did he know it was safe to go nexus first??? was that 12 nex?
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Hang on..
Flying with nex before forge?
Also, s2 going for the expo at 11 instead of his nat to throw flying into panic mode?
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But s2 only produces 2 lings from his overpool - opportunity wasted 2 cannons and nexus started wait - another 4 lings heading out s2 takes his natural as well
cannon finishes in time that the probes blocking the gap stop the lings from doing damage guess Flying's timing was good after all
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Nice cannon timing. Barely blocked the zerglings.
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Cannons go up right in time, Flying's probe guarding the choke until it was ready. Zerglings got pushed back.
s2 also took his nat now, looks like a hydra bust imo.
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Flying starts a gateway at the choke
Lair starts for s2.
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On June 10 2010 14:21 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:19 setzer wrote:On June 10 2010 14:16 flamewheel wrote:On June 10 2010 14:14 De4ngus wrote:On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:Way to rape, Sea. On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote: What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them? Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored. Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map. The PvT stats say otherwise? 56% is not exactly a clear indication of the map favoring one race over another. Matchpoint is much more balanced than some of the other proleague maps. Hey, if you want to nitpick it's 56.9%, which clearly makes all the difference, right? Just because it isn't as race-biased as other maps doesn't mean that it's Terran-favoured. I fail to see what you're trying to tell me.
I'm saying the map is balanced enough where individual skill and preparation trumps any imbalance in the map.
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Flying's chilling probe moves out and gets into the main - sees the lair.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 10 2010 14:22 Zona wrote: Flying goes nexus first without scouting - good stuff
s2 expands to 11. I don't like the fact that he compensated by getting two cannons, where one would've done fine.
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Sneaky probe scouts the lair. Stargate going up.
Flying researching +1.
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Stargate starts for flying, s2's OL sees it and moves away
s2 greedily pumping pure drone after his first 6 lings
+1 ground weapons researching for Flying
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sair dt for flying (bisu build)
edit: or not, guess he's going for the +1 and legs timing push
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Citadel starts - speedzeal timing attack incoming?
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s2 with pretty fast lair after taking his nat as well.
Stargate will be done in time to deal with any muta shenanigans though.
Not sure if flying has scouted 11.
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Zergling speed is done and scouting probe gets raped.
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Voted Sea and Stork to go through. One down and one to go. ^^
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Sair out for Flying, kills an overlord by Flying's main.
Spire and den going up in s2's nat.
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Spire halfway done, something researching at the core
s2 adds a hatch at 11.
first sair out and moving to scout.
6 lings surround a wandering scout and kill it
nope - sair killing an OL trying to peek into the main instead
2nd sair out
ling looks at the nat - s2 should have seen the forge spin
hydra den and another hatch being added.
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On June 10 2010 14:25 Jackal03 wrote: sair dt for flying (bisu build) Uhhh, no. He's getting +1 and speed. No archives in sight.
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6 lings pick off a slowzealot as 5 of them move out
another OL killed by the 2 sairs
archives and another gate being added
den is done
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s2 adding sunkens at 11 and his nat - 4 speedzeals moving to 11 they see the sunken and hydraling and back off.
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Flying going for his third and pressuring S2's 3rd.
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timing push does no damage
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Here come the hydras. Flying attempts to harass at 11 with 4 zealots, but backs off when he sees the hydras and a sunken.
Flying with a dt out now.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 10 2010 14:28 De4ngus wrote: Flying going for his third and pressuring Flying's 3rd. I don't think I've ever seen such multi-task!
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Scourge checks out Flying's main - +1 ground attack done
Flying with 3/4 sairs
s2 adding yet another hatch
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Speedlots heading for 11, repelled by some hydraling.
s2 going for pure many-hatch hydraling with scourge it seems.
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sairs finish off two scourge just chilling south of 11
Flying taking his 3rd at 3, now on 4 gates.
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What does flying hope to accomplish with pure zeal...he will get raped by a good sim-city
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On June 10 2010 14:22 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:19 HeadhunteR wrote:every match i see on match point toss loses... Stats for Match Point: PvT: 112-85 (56.9%) You clearly watched all games from the wrong 43.1% It's 35-39 for watchable games. As mentioned above me.
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On June 10 2010 14:28 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:28 De4ngus wrote: Flying going for his third and pressuring Flying's 3rd. I don't think I've ever seen such multi-task! Amazing right?
>.<
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>12 speedzeals head towards 11 - they stop and move back
sairs attakcing the OL mass at the nat - now the speedzeals move in!
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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LURKERS FINISH JUST IN TIME TO DEFEND THE NAT!
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the speedzeals and sairs are chased back, a few lurkers are done
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France2061 Posts
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DAMN that was nice play.
flying pinning the hydras down while picking of a TON of OLs with the sairs.
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Flying getting his min only. Attempting to pressure with +1 speedlots at s2's nat. Sairs are attacking overlords meanwhile.
Flying backs off having done very little damage. s2 on the offensive now, flying ready with 3 hts.
hydras turn back, apprently not ready to commit to an attack yet.
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Lots of overlords get raped. S2 moving out with hydralurk though.
Actually, he goes back. Weird. Looks like he wants to drop or something but he's way out of position for that.
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Shuttle out for flying, storm drop on the way.
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s2 is droning up like mad
Flying has established a 3rd
He still has corsairs flying around
A shuttle is on the move!
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s2 on triple evo chamber!!
playing for the long game? then he better shut down Flying's 3rd
sairs attacking overlords at s2's bases - hydra repel
a bunch of hydra walk right up to and between zealots - a few die before s2 starts controlling them and burrowing lurkers
templar? loaded into a shuttle that moves out across the bottom of the map!
hive coming.
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On June 10 2010 14:31 pettter wrote: DAMN that was nice play.
flying pinning the hydras down while picking of a TON of OLs with the sairs.
Er. Like, 3. And he lost a corsair and some lots in the process.
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whoa, zeals and temp drop!
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flying attacks s2's forces outside 3 and drops 3 zealots into the main - the now a templar dropped into the nat - first storm does very few kills but the 2nd racks them up - 12 kills total
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12 kills!
that was such a SMART drop
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1 templar gets 12 kills O_O
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12 kill with that storm drop!
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Shuttle drops 3 zealots in s2's main and an ht in the nat.
Storm actually almost misses, but s2 runs his drones straight into it. HT dies with 12 drone kills!
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Where are the mutalisks s2?
Flying adding another 3 gates - to 9
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Don't think it was really worth it. 12 drones for 1 High Templar, 3 Zealots, and a Shuttle.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 10 2010 14:32 Vivi57 wrote: 12 kills!
that was such a SMART drop s2 reacted very well actually, if he hadn't pulled drones immediately, he would've lost 20+. So many drones were stacked right there.
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+3 ground weapons being researched - Flying atatcks towards 11 but s2 ready with lots of forces one obs sniped but the other lives - flying has a LOT of ground units... s2 with tons of ilde lings below
lurkers dying like crazy
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and s2 sends lings from the wrong side, what a fail of a flank
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On June 10 2010 14:33 tree.hugger wrote:s2 reacted very well actually, if he hadn't pulled drones immediately, he would've lost 20+. So many drones were stacked right there.
he wouldve done better if he pulled that last group backwards
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too bad those werent cracklings
EDIT: crack attack just finished
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storms cut down on the defending lings
where did flying's obs go? he can't deal with the remaining lurkers except with storm
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So I guess corsairs + ground army is all the rage now? That shit is so annoying.
FLYING ATTACKING THE 3RD BUT HE TAKES A LOT OF HITS BEFORE TEMPLAR ARRIVE
PUSH IS CLEARED
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Flying now pushing on s2's base at 11.
lings and hydras attempt to stop the forces from going up the ramp while overlords+scourge try to snipe the obs. Flying defends the obs and continues the push. Storms stop the lings, but constant reinforcements wear down and finally stop this attack.
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Nice stormdrop by flying.
Moving into 11 with bigish army.
Nice lurker spread.
Ling reinforcements holds it off but with MANY casualties
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S2 cleans up the attack with a mass zergling rally.
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defiler mound starts - a slow templar on the way to 11 is picked off lots of ling reinforcement finally finishing off the attack, s2 will hold
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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Unending zerglings save the day as lurkers kill the zealots and waves upon waves of lings come to clean up the goons as S2's attack at the third fizzles.
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shuttle flying out again - ominous!
Drones starting to mine at 9
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cracklings coming down to shut down the new expo at 5 zealots coming back quickly - they come back in time to save the nexus
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Flying gets his 4th now, s2 gets his min only. Defiler mound up for s2, and his lings have complete map control at the moment. Flying turtles in his bases.
Lings all rush into Flying's 4th, overwhelming the cannons and goons there. Flying seinding in reinforcements and manages to save the expo.
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Flying defending his expansion with 3 dragoons. Not the best vs mass zergling.
S2 going for a drop.
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I think Flying is still doing better eco-wise..
s2 preparing a drop!
EDIT: IM A FUCKING GUARDIAN WAT
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defilers done
lots of zerglings loaded into overlords!
but sairs are idling over the cliff to the main
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s2 prepping for doom drop.
INCOMING!
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Doom drop coming in... Sairs protecting destination point though? Flying moving his army back north
DROPUUUUUU
Ouch. Sair+cannon rape everything. Cannons clean up remaining lurkers.
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Still, the sairs idle for awhile, a bunch of lurkerling dropped successfully by some of the gateways and the scourge arrive too late
the drop easily cleared by speedlots
s2 expanding to 12
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awesome job shutting down the drop with sairs
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s2 attempting a huge doom drop that gets intercepted by sairs.
Overlords all die, and only manage to drop 3 lurkers and some lings. Very bad drop.
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....And the doomdrop gets shut down by sairs in good position.
s2 taking 12 and 6 in retaliation.
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Doomed drop gives an excuse to show how bad clumped zealots are against lurkers
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
fucking retard s2, sees the sairs in time and doesnt back of
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2 melee 2 carapace ups for s2's ground units.
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On June 10 2010 14:37 pettter wrote: ....And the doomdrop gets shut down by sairs in good position.
s2 taking 12 and 6 in retaliation. s2 is just watching 6, not taking it
swarm/ling attacks 5 - storms kill a lot of them but a few lings survive, shields gone from nexus!
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 10 2010 14:37 De4ngus wrote: LOl drop got raped. Scourge came in about 10 seconds too late. s2 should still have this though, Flying took some zealot damage on that drop, and s2 didn't commit nearly as much to that drop as Flying did earlier.
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temp does a good job saving 5
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s2 tushing into Flying's 4th, lings and swarm.
Storms and zealots save the nexus.
Flying now securing 6 oclock.
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Flying taking 6. Crackling/defiler raid gets shut down.
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attack on 5 cleared by zealots
flying clearing out 6 and placing a nexus there
s2's not in good shape if he can't do something fast
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Dark archon out..feedback time for DEPILERSS
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France2061 Posts
Annnnnd the map is split
So easily split it's ridiculous.
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flying morphs a dark archon wonder what for but lings surround it and kill it before it does anything
swarmlings attacking 3 storms kill a lot and there's a reaver there too
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da sniped lololol
lets see if s2 can get the third
nope, reaver to the rescue
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Awww dark archon gets sniped.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Flying making a Dark Archon! Storm/reaver/speedlot defend the third from crackswarm.
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darchon for flying. , but it gets surrounded by lings and dies before it gets to do anything
s2 attempting to push on Flying's min only and Flying reinforces and saves.
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flying's army comes back and ends THAT attack another robo for flying at 6? not sure
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Hmm.. flying is in pretty good shape
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
um, why isn't Flying upgrading armor? :O
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And the darchon (did I just coin this term?) gets raped, and another failed defiler/ling attack
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S2 dropping 6. 1 reaver isn't going to defend that.
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with reavers everywhere, it looks like s2's going to fight that uphill battle where you drop over and over and slowly die
or not, he juts shut down 6
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flying's army attacks up northwest but takes a lot of damage to lurkerling
a drop at 6 - reaver sniped immediately, that base will fall
flying attacking northwest at the same time
storm killing lots of hydra
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Flying takes 6
reavers incoming.
...and DA?
gets surrounded and eaten alive.
Storm and reaver clean up defliler-ling attack.
aaand 6 gets dropped and destroyed big engagement in the middle.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
6:00 wiped clean by a drop, but Flying's army cleans up stuff in the middle.
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PROBES STILL SENT TO 6
MASSACRE
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Hydra drop on 6 oclock destroys the base. flying forgets he is transferring probes and loses a handful as they run straight towards the hydras.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On June 10 2010 14:40 Megalisk wrote: And the darchon (did I just coin this term?) gets raped, and another failed defiler/ling attack Nah this term's been around for a while :3
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LoL nevermind! Flying loses 6oclock, followed by a fail probe transfer into lurkers
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wow, lots of probes that were sent to 6 die, only 4 pull back in time. a few zealots attack towards 12 - not enough, they die to defenses
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those spores have done such a good job sniping obs
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Drop at Flying's 6 destroy the base and gets some maynarding probes. Meanwhile flying's main army is after S2's 12.
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huge zerg army attacking towards 5 - or not? where's the rest of the red? stuck on the ramp!
flying attacking twoards 12 - s2 not defending
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Wow, probe rape. Flying needs to pay attention.
Flying attacking 12.
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Flying pushes 12 oclock now. s2 pushing on Flying's 4th.
Flying losing his 4th, and s2 loses 12.
Not looking good for flying.
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and while flying is shutting down 12, s2 counters 5
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 10 2010 14:39 snowdrift86 wrote: Annnnnd the map is split
So easily split it's ridiculous. Not anymore....
s2 makes two terrible attacks, before finally finding a place where Flying's army isn't and wrecking Flying's bottom expansion with no trouble. Shuttle and reaver missing, presumed dead in the attack.
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Wow, completely abandoning his 3rd gas for 12. Terrible idea.
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an unburrowed lurker watches on as flying decimates 12
but s2 decimates 5, a fair trade since his own older bases will still have more minerals
flying letting his templar wander around in the dark alone and getting picked off by lings
flying moving his sairs out and taking down overlords he still has 7 of them
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Unburrowed lurker tried his best to valiantly defend 12:30..but he couldn't
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1 mining base vs 3
can't really see flying coming back at this point.
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Flying suddenly remembered he has 8 sairs...
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Look like obs missed a storm drop.
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Flying gave away the advantage there I think - if he can't take another base again he'll be fucked
6 templar and a reaver chilling at 3 though - s2 backs off right away
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I'm not watching this bullshit any more.
I'll be back when Stork gets to eat whoever wins.
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Nice! full-ups for s2... not sure what flying can do without another gas. he's trying to secure 12oclock
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France2061 Posts
s2 just can't manage to win any direct engagement.
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s2 should drop lurkers behind the min-only to seal the deal
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flying tries to take 12, but s2 shuts him down
meanwhile, s2 taking 6
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trying to set up a contain doesn't work as the 3 burrowed lurks die immediately
flyings' attempt to expo to 12 forced to cancel but s2's small army there cornered and destroyed
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Flying straight up falling apart.
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Flying seems to be in quite the hole there, he has no mining at all.
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looks like flying's mind out, just a ton of temps left
s2 cleaning up now, shoudl be gg soon
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s2 losing a lot of forces as he nears Flying's min only.
Flying attempts to expo at 12, but hydras and lings snipe the nexus. flying clears the area again.
both players clash in the middle, with s2 finally overwhelming flying.
flying gets 2 dts to slay some hydras there
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6 templar camping way off the battlefield Dark templar riping stuff up I think s2 has this
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8 HT wandering around the map alone... lol?
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neither player playing well - storms decimating s2's army as he gets over extended but flying backs off as his army shrinks in size s2 controls the center for now flying loses his reaver and 4 templar are unprotected!
so many unprotedted templar wandering around!
but 2 dts force s2 back as he has no detection
s2 has taken 6, 2 dts headed that way as drones arrive...uhg-oh!
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he's sending 2 dts into 6 to try and do some harass. he gets a lurker kill a few drones and a few lings
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hero dts whacking away at 6
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dts scoring a TON of drone and ling kills and the OL coming to help is chased by a sair.
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Yeah s2, send those 4 lings to kill off the dts.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
DTs raping 6! Though Flying is screwed methinks.
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S2 fails because he thinks 4 zerglings will kill 2 dts -_-
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wow - hatchery barely saved in the red
flying taking 12 again
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2 dts attack 6 oclock, kill the guarding lurkers and a lot of drones. Sair kills the overlord that comes to provide vision. Hatch is finally saved with hydra/ling with 204hp.
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but the hatch is saved.
oo, flying's 12 nex finished, lets see how long that expo lives
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s2 saves his hatch at 6 w/ his hydra/ling army
flying takes 12 to try and get more economy
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s2 needs to learn how to finish a game
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France2061 Posts
s2 is terrible. His inability to win any battle earlier is allowing Flying to crawl back into the game.
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Flying down to one mining base.
Never should've given up the map split he had.
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Failed drop from flying on 6 oclock. loses the shuttle, archon and 2 hts and only gets a few lings and a couple of drones.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Wow, terrible storm drop. What was that? You drop an archon in the middle of hydras, then don't storm the hydras?
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Lol, dropping one archon to try and snipe that hatchery at 6, too bad it didn't work.
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speedshuttle headed towards 6...what does it contain?
a small drop at 12, does little damage an archon and 2 templar dropped at 6 - s2 pulls his maynarding drones before they arrive and although storms kill a bunch of lings, the drop is finished off without significant damage
wow s2 pulling drones from his depleted main gas
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wow, flying killed so many drones
he might have more probes than drones now
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s2's min only was storm dropped at some point..I guess obs missed it.
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Flying's fpview confirms that he's screwed.
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Flying loads up his shuttle with 2 templar and an archon again
shuttle spotted - - chased by scourge in circles damn speedshuttles so fast.
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Rofl shuttle micro. Picks the ht back up while running away from scourge.
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awesome shuttle micro, even saves the ht
SWARM INCOMING FOR ATTACK ON 12
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plague dropped on 3 cannons at 12, and now swarms with lings
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s2 sending 4 lings into the swarm at a time
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dswarm + plague + lings attacking 12 now.
archon/zlots are there so it don't think it'll fall anytime soon
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France2061 Posts
Now would be the time to gg Flying
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Aaaaaaaand the shuttle runs into scourge. Flying just give up already...
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Great shuttle micro, saves the ht and makes it back to the base.
s2 attacking 12 oclock. plague on the cnanons and then swamrs + lings.
flying tries to counter with another shuttle towards 6 which gets sniped immediately by scourge.
flying ggs.
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Flying sends a shuttle to 6 again, but s2 not falling for the same thing again as 2 scourge await
lings attack 12, flying concedes!
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flying trying desparately to get a good drop in at 6
12 finally breaks and flying GGs!
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SCOURGE SNIPE THE SHUTTLE and s2 did a REALLY good job sending in a few ling at a time to absorb storms
GEE GEE
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gg!!!!!
GO NEO-LUXURYHYUK!!
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 10 2010 14:47 flamewheel wrote: Wow, terrible storm drop. What was that? You drop an archon in the middle of hydras, then don't storm the hydras? Flying has had some downright bewildering storms this game. I swear he's stormed nothing at least five or so times.
Finally he gg's. s2 advances to the winners game, despite not playing well enough to win, or badly enough to lose that last game.
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lol
that was a long ... and boring game
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okay, s2, you're gonna need to be more creative to beat Stork
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United States11390 Posts
S2 looks like Yarnc way too much. -__-
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On June 10 2010 14:49 Vivi57 wrote: SCOURGE SNIPE THE SHUTTLE and s2 did a REALLY good job sending in a few ling at a time to absorb storms
GEE GEE well s2 is adapting when things don't go well for him, unlike some stubborn players - earlier in the game storms RAPED his ling attacks earlier in the game storm drops really damaged his expos - so scourge for next time
Wow s2 with his head down in the waiting room the T1's great zerg coach with a sox hat talking to him
s2 vs Stork rematch!
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France2061 Posts
On June 10 2010 14:51 Harem wrote: S2 looks like Yarnc way too much. -__-
Don't go there
SKT are rich anyway he won't have any financial worries.
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i think its coz of the way he keeps his head facing down
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Flying on a 6 game losing streak now
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On June 10 2010 14:51 snowdrift86 wrote:Don't go there SKT are rich anyway he won't have any financial worries. But they dont pay zergs well (even hyuk only makes 50k)
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Sigh that game was pretty painful to watch. Mistakes and poor decisions all around.
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Stork has this no problem. s2 may be able to pass flying but Stork is too good
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Flying 0-2? Holy hell is he playing bad recently.
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On June 10 2010 14:52 KizZBG wrote:Flying on a 6 game losing streak now He's perfecting his PvZ fast arbiter build. Soon he will be on the highest winning streak PvZ has ever seen.
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SKT T1 vs eSTRO again next week! except it's not brood war...
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On June 10 2010 14:53 InTheFade wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:51 snowdrift86 wrote:On June 10 2010 14:51 Harem wrote: S2 looks like Yarnc way too much. -__- Don't go there SKT are rich anyway he won't have any financial worries. But they dont pay zergs well (even hyuk only makes 50k)
only? isnt that alot more than the average pro? 50k is good livin'
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crap... stork vs a mediocre zerg that he's already shown he's able to beat he's doomed ><
+ Show Spoiler +please, please prove me wrong
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On June 10 2010 14:50 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:47 flamewheel wrote: Wow, terrible storm drop. What was that? You drop an archon in the middle of hydras, then don't storm the hydras? Flying has had some downright bewildering storms this game. I swear he's stormed nothing at least five or so times.
That's not true. He hit one of his own Archons and 2-6 of his Zealots with every storm.
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On June 10 2010 14:54 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:53 InTheFade wrote:On June 10 2010 14:51 snowdrift86 wrote:On June 10 2010 14:51 Harem wrote: S2 looks like Yarnc way too much. -__- Don't go there SKT are rich anyway he won't have any financial worries. But they dont pay zergs well (even hyuk only makes 50k) only? isnt that alot more than the average pro? 50k is good livin' + Show Spoiler +idk, it's just that even though Hyuk has been very useful to them (certainly moreso than Canata), I feel like he's getting short changed. Hell, free makes like 120k, and he's about as accomplished as Hyuk, only Hyuk also beat Jaedong in the SPL finals, and free makes some Ro16s and thats really it... jussayin... anyway...
For the love of God, give me a non-standard PvZ!
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On June 10 2010 14:56 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 14:50 tree.hugger wrote:On June 10 2010 14:47 flamewheel wrote: Wow, terrible storm drop. What was that? You drop an archon in the middle of hydras, then don't storm the hydras? Flying has had some downright bewildering storms this game. I swear he's stormed nothing at least five or so times. That's not true. He hit one of his own Archons and 2-6 of his Zealots with every storm. He also managed to land multiple storms on the same archon more than once.
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Stork looking calm - he beat this scrub once and he can do it again, he thinks.
s2 with a finger poking into his left cheek. A secret ancient Asian pressure point to bring oneself to maximum performance!
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On June 10 2010 14:58 Zona wrote: A secret ancient Asian pressure point to bring oneself to maximum performance! Ewwwww...
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s2's only chance is some cheese I think. Stork should roll hopefully.
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Stork the orange protoss at 4 s2 the purple zerg at 8
They undertake the Triathlon!
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s2 will 4 pool
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On June 10 2010 14:58 Zona wrote: Stork looking calm - he beat this scrub once and he can do it again, he thinks.
s2 with a finger poking into his left cheek. A secret ancient Asian pressure point to bring oneself to maximum performance! Wtf lol.
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fuck i was gonna make a toastie
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s2 looks serious - OL going the wrong way
The drones mine laboriously for their master cerebrate.
Stork orders a pylon warped in. His probes have no emotion as the mechanically carry out his commands.
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stork with a pylon in the main
s2 not cheesing
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Gateway first for Stork
OL + 2 eggs for s2 - 12hatch perhaps.
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Stork going 1 gate expo. S2 going overpool.
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s2 scouting the wrong direction with his overlord.
s2 goes overpool, Stork opening with a standard 1 gate.
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wtf? was that 12 pool expo?
stork's probe arrives in time to delay the nat a bit
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Aww, Stork fails to block the hatch. Who cares though, S2 sucks.
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Was it overpool? I'm positive I saw 2 eggs after OL...
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both players taking their gasses. s2 expanding to inner 9 as well
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Advanced hatchery for s2.
Hydra bust watch!
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s2 getting his third already
stork walling off his ramp w/ 2 zealots
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Agressive expanding from s2. This will be interesting.
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s2 with one ling chasing the scouting probe - won't do any good he should try a little harder to deny scouting!
5 lings test the 2 zealots on the ramp
stork getting his core
lair at the nat
stork starts a stargate.
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Stork takes his back expo, s2 with both the front expos (nat and inner 9).
Sotkr's probe is still running aorund in s2's base, while another probe is hiding in s2's back expo.
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Why did s2 take that third, as opposed to the one behind the eggs?
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robo going down for stork!
spire about halfway done, but the stargate is already finished
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Stargate coming from Stork. S2 getting lair. One gate expo is so awesome. Super fast tech.
Robo coming. Looks like sair/reaver again.
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stargate and robo. looks like stork just plans on making a couple of reavers and winning again
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stork hasn't sent his probe to the nat to see the lair?
stork adds a robo as his stargate finishes
s2 starts a spire first again - the probe sees the lair and morphing spire as it leaves and gets to see the one drone at inner 9 for good measure
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another hatchery for s2 at the nat
first sair out and headed to 9 2nd sair emerges
forge for stork
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United States11390 Posts
On June 10 2010 15:04 Megalisk wrote: Why did s2 take that third, as opposed to the one behind the eggs? Because that one is too exposed to early drops from P until eggs are broken.
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I'm guessing Stork will play it like he used to play gods garden.
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On June 10 2010 15:04 Megalisk wrote: Why did s2 take that third, as opposed to the one behind the eggs?
maybe if he can defend that base then taking his 4th will be easy
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On June 10 2010 15:04 Megalisk wrote:Why did s2 take that third, as opposed to the one behind the eggs? My initial reaction was for a hydra bust, but he doesn't seem to be putting that together.
Either: 1) He assumed Stork's probe at the egg'd natural would be annoying an deny him. 2) He has some planned aggression. (i.e. plans to have map control.)
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reavertech starts
sair shooting at OL with impunity between 9 and 8.
den being added for s2 as a halfwall at his nat.
3 zealots/1 goon moving out - 4 lings go around them to see 2 zealots still blocking the ramp
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Zerglings try to get into the main but fail. Dragoon shoots them like 20 times but none die.
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Nooo! They took a wacky map like Triathalon and still made a standard game out of it.
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stork preparing to take his 3rd at 8. core spinning - air ups?
s2 starting to add hydra, an evo chamber at inner 9 as well.
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Stork now taking his nat. Getting reaver tech to block into incoming hydra bust.
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On June 10 2010 15:05 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 15:04 Megalisk wrote:Why did s2 take that third, as opposed to the one behind the eggs? My initial reaction was for a hydra bust, but he doesn't seem to be putting that together. Either: 1) He assumed Stork's probe at the egg'd natural would be annoying an deny him. 2) He has some planned aggression. (i.e. plans to have map control.) Sair/reaver is harder to defend. If he wanted to kill the probe it would only be a matter of bringing another drone.
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Sweet, with reavers Stork will have a very easy time defending against any sort of hydra attack.
I'm guessing S2 means to play aggressively since he expanded toward Stork?
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first reaver out and ready to defend 8.
What the heck is s2's gameplan? no timing atk, no aggressive expansion, just randomly make units and drones?
stork adds his 3rd gate
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s2 looks like Luxury!!!!!!!!
New fan here imo
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s2 needs to start expanding like crazy or go for some huge timing push, he's gonna get rolled again at this pace, 3 base vs 3 base
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wow, getting tons of ol kills
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Wow, overlord rape. S2 hid them in a pretty bad spot.
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a bunch of corsairs w/ +1 attack moving around harassing overlords.
a few of them are at low health, scourge/hydras manage to repel briefly
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Sairs snipe an overlord and some scourge. Stork seems to have misclicked on the arb by accident or he could have taken out a few more overlords.
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stork with 5/6 sairs killing 3 OLs including 2 out of a crowd of 6 that were unwisely hanging out north of 9 but one sair moving to join the group is picked off by hydra
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Stork is losing sairs like kal
and s2 needs to take a 4th.
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Stork checking on the overlord making sure he isn't going to get dropped.
Lots and lots and lots of gates going up.
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Stop spamming hydras, s2! You're no Shine!
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stork has added a lot of gates - up to 7 or something now? 2 reavers, 3 cannons, and zealots ready to repel any attack on his nat at 8
does s2 have drop?
a drone headed north - just missed by the sair?
4 templar out and charging energy
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high templars are out, not sure if storm is ready
i think s2 is planning a drop directly into the main
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Stork lost a few corsairs, S2 has a lot of hydras. Those tightly-clustered expos are easy to defend against air, but three bases probably won't be enough for the Zerg... doom drop time!!
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drop is finished for s2 - lots of hydra loaded into OL's!
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GETTING READY FOR A BIG DROP IN STORKS MAIN GOGO s2
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On June 10 2010 15:07 De4ngus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 15:05 tree.hugger wrote:On June 10 2010 15:04 Megalisk wrote:Why did s2 take that third, as opposed to the one behind the eggs? My initial reaction was for a hydra bust, but he doesn't seem to be putting that together. Either: 1) He assumed Stork's probe at the egg'd natural would be annoying an deny him. 2) He has some planned aggression. (i.e. plans to have map control.) Sair/reaver is harder to defend. If he wanted to kill the probe it would only be a matter of bringing another drone. Good point. If he was going for an earlier spire, we probably would've seen that backdoor taken, but the earlier hydra timing allows him to defend the forward expansion, and also would've made that back expo prohibitive.
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S2 going for a drop. Stork should be ready though.....
WOW he is not. wtf is this.
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wow stork putting that nexus really close to that army...cancels it i think? he might've actually lost that haha
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the corsairs are too far away as hydra are dropped at 3, stork will lose that base
stork expanding to inner 4.5, hydra force that to cancel immediately.
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or not, has some reavvers
but drop on main!
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drop first at 3 o'clock, takes out nexus
and now a drop into the main while the natural gets hit....
i can't believe stork might get eliminated :O
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a big hydra drop in stork's main - all his defenseas are at his nat
s2 attacks stork's nat at the same time as the templar don''t know what to do
templar picked off without storming!
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Hydra drop inc.
Stork with 2 reavers and 4 hts.
Hydras drop in the main. Sairs take out the overlords, but he loses probes.
Stork puts down a nexus right next to the hydras, it gets destroyed.
another hydra drop as well as a hydra bust. stork mismicros, loses 4 hts without a single storm going down, this is terrible.
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ALL TEMPS SNIPED
this migth be it
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WOW HOLY SHIT s2 DROP ABUSE
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Stork
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some nice hydra control s2
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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On June 10 2010 15:09 InTheFade wrote:Stop spamming hydras, s2! You're no Shine! He proved me wrong!!!
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ugh, forgetting storm is so bad
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Oh my god that was serious rape from s2. 3 nexus's down instantly
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s2 just morphing 6 lurkers right at stork's nat...he controls the area
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stork didn't start putting on gateways early enough....
and his reavers didn't do any harassment nor did his corsairs (besides a few overlord kills)
plus his corsairs scouted how many hydras were on the field, he should've not suffered this many losses!
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Fenrax
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storm? storm?
STORM?
STORK STORM?
No? No? NOOOOOOO
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Fail by stork. He was equipped to defend all of those attacks, but he couldn't multi-task.
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Stork loses his nat, but hangs on to his main (with no nexus).
s2 morphing lots of lurkers.
Wow, terrible play by stork, losing all those hts without any storms :/
Stork pushing out a bit, kills a few hydras and loses his forces.
Stork ggs.
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Seriously Stork, what the hell?
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HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE ELIMANATED BY s2
God that must suck
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gg WHERE WERE THE STORMS >_<
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Stork GGs! manages to clean up the army but definitely doesn't have enough for the reinforcement from s2
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stork moving his templar out to get sniped - he's thrown only 2 storms so far in defense...
stork concedes
s2 advances 2-1.
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WTF Stork just laughs and GGs.
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Stork chuckles because he realizes no protoss advanced.
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S2 I ALWAYS BELIEVED
Sad for Stork though, I wanted s2 and him to advance.
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Omg what a huge mistake by Stork.Can he come back from this?
lol nvm
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Stork with a half-smile..wat??
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This wasn't even "omg toss are weak", stork messed this one up pretty badly.
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On June 10 2010 10:32 InTheFade wrote:s2 and Sea will make it. Awwwwww yyyyeaaaaaahhh!
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WHAT THE... stork, why? T_T
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all those templars with no storm
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Stork out of the MSL because he didn't kill the eggs (WTF) and he didn't research Psionic Storm on time.
Goddammit Stork.
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Ouch... Protoss where art thou?
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T1's zerg coach grapples s2's head - a job well done
The new era is approaching. T1 will rise again, with its zergs as the leading edge!
s2 does a double V-sign to the camera.
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lol someone get a screencap of s2 and that guy holding his head.
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damn 2 pretty good toss out of
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dang I guessed s2 would win the first game and stork would win the 2nd, but instead it was the other way around. my poor liquibet
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wat - Stork is smiling as he packs his keyboard bag?
s2 still with his head down, nodding as he listens to the coach.
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in s2's defence, he did play pretty well. he moved his hydra's around smartly in anticipation of the temps at storks natural. + the drop
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Disappointed... STORK!!! To be expected... no toss makes it out of this group. So sad.
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Thanks to kentor for streaming.
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Forgetting storm but having like 7 temps was really bad
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Way to fail Stork. way. to. fail.
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On June 10 2010 15:14 tree.hugger wrote:Disappointing management from Stork. I don't know if he just forgot to research storm at the correct timing, or if he just couldn't manage both attacks at once ( s2 sure couldn't, but then again, he didn't need to do anything but drop.) but that was disappointing, to say the least. He would have been fine defending the main if the shuttle wasn't sniped which left the reavers stuck at third as eggs weren't killed.
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Now I am sad.
Stork will do well in the OSL?
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How can you lose a defense with Cannon + Reaver + HTs? Props to S2 for dropping one place and then rushing the other when Stork pulled his Reavers, but that was only possible due to really bad response play by Stork...
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Depressing....
Time to bash korean noobs on icc.
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Sigh, if only he had researched storm.
Trying to take a 4th before storm had even finished wtf?
Key moment in my opinion is the shuttle getting sniped at Stork's inner expo. If he had the mobility to move the reavers, he could've held off the attack at his front.
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damn I always want the zerg to win, but I did not expect that at all!
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HyuK and s2 advancing... LOL SKT1 Zergs making the team balanced.
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On June 10 2010 15:13 Severedevil wrote: ...
Stork out of the MSL because he didn't kill the eggs (WTF) and he didn't research Psionic Storm on time.
Goddammit Stork.
I blame the map : (
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If Sea and s2 just implode next round I think it's pretty bad. C'mon Sea, get to a semi or quarter finals!
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goddamnit stork. what happened to getting your act together for moderately important matches?
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On June 10 2010 15:17 Confuse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 15:13 Severedevil wrote: ...
Stork out of the MSL because he didn't kill the eggs (WTF) and he didn't research Psionic Storm on time.
Goddammit Stork. I blame the map : ( Blame the player for not learning the map. Stork had observers and had a forge - he could have easily gotten detection on the eggs and cleared them out.
Did he expect s2 to leave that base alone all game?
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stork =.= s2? really?!?! toss is the ez race ofc
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On June 10 2010 15:20 Chen wrote: stork =.= s2? really?!?! toss is the ez race ofc Stormless templar make it easy.
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that was really some badly planned storm timing by Stork.
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Funny how I got banned in Kentor's livestream channel by some random mod b/c I supported S2 over Stork. I mean seriously, I'm a fan of both players and I wanted both of them to advance more than Sea but I'm a SKT1 fan so I support my home boys more. Yet I got banned for them. Hmph.
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Yay another zerg advances. The more zergs = more chance of zergs winning the msl
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On June 10 2010 15:23 QuickStriker wrote: Funny how I got banned in Kentor's livestream channel by some random mod b/c I supported S2 over Stork. I mean seriously, I'm a fan of both players and I wanted both of them to advance more than Sea but I'm a SKT1 fan so I support my home boys more. Yet I got banned for them. Hmph.
I salute you, random mod.
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Doesn't matter Flash is going to defend his title. But wow, Toss really has been the weakest race for quite a while now.
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lol stupid stork... how could he forgot to research storms
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On June 10 2010 15:23 QuickStriker wrote: Funny how I got banned in Kentor's livestream channel by some random mod b/c I supported S2 over Stork. I mean seriously, I'm a fan of both players and I wanted both of them to advance more than Sea but I'm a SKT1 fan so I support my home boys more. Yet I got banned for them. Hmph. I'm pretty sure it was MorningMasume11. lol
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On June 10 2010 15:25 heyoka wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 15:23 QuickStriker wrote: Funny how I got banned in Kentor's livestream channel by some random mod b/c I supported S2 over Stork. I mean seriously, I'm a fan of both players and I wanted both of them to advance more than Sea but I'm a SKT1 fan so I support my home boys more. Yet I got banned for them. Hmph. I salute you, random mod. Random mod is a true hero to us all.
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Sigh, I remember the good ol' days when Stork could actually beat terrans, sigh.
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On June 10 2010 15:25 heyoka wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 15:23 QuickStriker wrote: Funny how I got banned in Kentor's livestream channel by some random mod b/c I supported S2 over Stork. I mean seriously, I'm a fan of both players and I wanted both of them to advance more than Sea but I'm a SKT1 fan so I support my home boys more. Yet I got banned for them. Hmph. I salute you, random mod. It seems that the person who banned is so upset that Stork lost to a SKT1 zerg. Just you wait, I'm going to get revenge for banning me in the future mr. random livestream mod who isn't even a main mod.
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On June 10 2010 15:27 deathgod6 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 15:23 QuickStriker wrote: Funny how I got banned in Kentor's livestream channel by some random mod b/c I supported S2 over Stork. I mean seriously, I'm a fan of both players and I wanted both of them to advance more than Sea but I'm a SKT1 fan so I support my home boys more. Yet I got banned for them. Hmph. I'm pretty sure it was MorningMasume11. lol Yea, It was probably him. He was abusing his powers of banning by banning like anyone who were saying things against him or something that he doesn't seem fit in chat, ie. saying S2 > Stork. I wonder if that's his TL account.
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On June 10 2010 15:26 superbabosheki wrote: Doesn't matter Flash is going to defend his title. But wow, Toss really has been the weakest race for quite a while now.
Time for a protoss buff.
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On June 10 2010 15:28 QuickStriker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 15:25 heyoka wrote:On June 10 2010 15:23 QuickStriker wrote: Funny how I got banned in Kentor's livestream channel by some random mod b/c I supported S2 over Stork. I mean seriously, I'm a fan of both players and I wanted both of them to advance more than Sea but I'm a SKT1 fan so I support my home boys more. Yet I got banned for them. Hmph. I salute you, random mod. It seems that the person who banned is so upset that Stork lost to a SKT1 zerg. Just you wait, I'm going to get revenge for banning me in the future mr. random livestream mod who isn't even a main mod. *Edit* Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 15:27 deathgod6 wrote:On June 10 2010 15:23 QuickStriker wrote: Funny how I got banned in Kentor's livestream channel by some random mod b/c I supported S2 over Stork. I mean seriously, I'm a fan of both players and I wanted both of them to advance more than Sea but I'm a SKT1 fan so I support my home boys more. Yet I got banned for them. Hmph. I'm pretty sure it was MorningMasume11. lol Yea, It was probably him. He was abusing his powers of banning by banning like anyone who were saying things against him or something that he doesn't seem fit in chat, ie. saying S2 > Stork. I wonder if that's his TL account.
Well, he did seem a little perturbed.
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Holy shit... BOTH PROTOSS FAIL?
This fucking sucks.
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oh man. i wanted stork to win i guess stork's time is now over.
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On June 10 2010 15:27 deathgod6 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 15:23 QuickStriker wrote: Funny how I got banned in Kentor's livestream channel by some random mod b/c I supported S2 over Stork. I mean seriously, I'm a fan of both players and I wanted both of them to advance more than Sea but I'm a SKT1 fan so I support my home boys more. Yet I got banned for them. Hmph. I'm pretty sure it was MorningMasume11. lol He's a hero.
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Sea + S2 = Sea.S2 = NaDa
:p
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Why stork whyy!??!
*sniffle* I am so very upset by these turn of events.
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wtf Sea schooled Stork? and stork knocked out. sad news for protoss and dino fans.
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On June 10 2010 08:58 JadeFist wrote: Stork is going to get Hyuk'd!
...er s2'd.
Not "s2'd"
Say Stork is going to get "stewed"
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WTF
TWO strong protoss and none makes it out?
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Canada6330 Posts
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lol...protoss dies again. this is getting ridiculous
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dinotoss slayed by a loveheart ;_;
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On June 10 2010 16:19 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2010 08:58 JadeFist wrote: Stork is going to get Hyuk'd!
...er s2'd. Not "s2'd" Say Stork is going to get "stewed" he got HoN'd
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On June 10 2010 17:06 Megalisk wrote:Stork just tweeted twice in the past 10 minutes..anyone care to translate what he said? http://twitter.com/koreasbg "After the survival matches, I am heading to Muju county for an event. The weather is so hot. T.T"
"We learn from our mistakes... I will cleanly admit my defeat and do better next time."
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god damn stork this is sad
I guess flying is not going to become a pvz monster after all. did he make arbiters btw?
good job for S2, though, it seems that destroying bisu and best in practice every day finally starts to pay of.
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NOOOooOOOoo STORK !
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s2!!!!!!!!!! but STOOOOOOOOORK AND WTF SEA? LOL
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wrong lb but same results..go s2!!
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haha i knew it Poor Stork the only player i like in Khan
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meh stork
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ffs Stork! I went to bed after the Flying vs S2 game thinking Stork will take the last game after his convincing win in the first game. Then as always in MSL Stork makes some stupid mistake and is out and S2 will only get raped in later stages.
So happy you S2 don't expect to get far in msl, because you will get raped by a mediocre Terran soon.
And Sea totally deserved to advance! He has been so unlucky past years its ridicolous.
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I just read the lrs and it looks like stork got schooled by s2...great play by s2..
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uggggh stork
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WTF, STORK?
TT_TT
Woot, go Sea!!
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Stork......
At least Sea is here. I hope he wins something this year.
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United States10327 Posts
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No Stork nooooooooo
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If stork doesn't do well in this OSL I will lose my hope in him. He didn't make it out of the groups in the last 2 leagues and now he seems to not even manage to qualify anymoreT.T
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So I checked the results and I noticed that Stork got Hyuk'ed through s2. According to the prediction....
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stork nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo s2 FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Oh snap, the T1 Zerg's seem legitimate this time around...good for them, stepping it up!
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omfg stork and flying D:
no more predictions for me, theyre the worst
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omfg. s2? beating stork again? mother fu-
no P's in this group made it?
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Man, the winner's match in Group 5 is way better than the winner's match in Snow/Fantasy's group. WAY better.
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