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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 10 2010 05:20 GMT
#401
s2 vs Flying...c'mon s2, you can do it.

s2 doesn't look happy.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
NeoSynod
Profile Joined April 2009
United States31 Posts
June 10 2010 05:20 GMT
#402
On June 10 2010 14:19 HeadhunteR wrote:
every match i see on match point toss loses...



Toss is doing pretty bad as a whole lately
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
June 10 2010 05:20 GMT
#403
NEO-LuxuryHyuk Fighting!@~
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-10 05:24:22
June 10 2010 05:20 GMT
#404
On June 10 2010 14:19 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 14:16 flamewheel wrote:
On June 10 2010 14:14 De4ngus wrote:
On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:
Way to rape, (T)Sea.

On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote:
What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them?


Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored.

Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map.

The PvT stats say otherwise?


56% is not exactly a clear indication of the map favoring one race over another. Matchpoint is much more balanced than some of the other proleague maps.

It may be that MP is more balanced in TvP than other proleague maps, but the sample size is large enough that I think we can say with a fair amount of certainty that Match Point is slightly protoss favored.

EDIT: To respond to criticism down below, I think the sample size also is large enough to assume that there's less of an error with regards to the individual players who played on the map.

Also, it is not at all clear actually, that MP is more balanced than the current crop of proleague maps. On the contrary, it actually appears to be slightly more biased towards protoss than is normal.
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
June 10 2010 05:20 GMT
#405
On June 10 2010 14:16 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 14:14 De4ngus wrote:
On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:
Way to rape, (T)Sea.

On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote:
What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them?


Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored.

Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map.

The PvT stats say otherwise?

On that note, probably every map says z > p just because p's have been sucking recently so I'm going to call the 56% just a skill difference in the player pool.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 10 2010 05:21 GMT
#406
On June 10 2010 14:19 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 14:16 flamewheel wrote:
On June 10 2010 14:14 De4ngus wrote:
On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:
Way to rape, (T)Sea.

On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote:
What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them?


Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored.

Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map.

The PvT stats say otherwise?


56% is not exactly a clear indication of the map favoring one race over another. Matchpoint is much more balanced than some of the other proleague maps.

Hey, if you want to nitpick it's 56.9%, which clearly makes all the difference, right? Just because it isn't as race-biased as other maps doesn't mean that it's Terran-favoured. I fail to see what you're trying to tell me.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 10 2010 05:21 GMT
#407
flying the purple toss at 1.
s2 the BLOOD red zerg at 7.

Battle takes place on Match Point!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
June 10 2010 05:21 GMT
#408
Purple protoss scum warp in at 7
Our valiant Zerg hero spawns at 1 in red
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
pettter
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1032 Posts
June 10 2010 05:21 GMT
#409
Flying and s2 meet on Match point

s2 red zerg at 7,
flying purple toss at 1
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
June 10 2010 05:21 GMT
#410
Hopefully flying wins this one, that way a toss is guaranteed to make it in this group.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 10 2010 05:21 GMT
#411
On June 10 2010 14:16 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 14:14 De4ngus wrote:
On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:
Way to rape, (T)Sea.

On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote:
What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them?


Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored.

Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map.

The PvT stats say otherwise?

Most of those terran losses are from mst prelims. Take a look at the names of the terrans who lost. I don't think they'll be winning on any map.

If you look at stuff like proleague, terrans are raping pretty hard.
GANDHISAUCE
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-10 05:22:20
June 10 2010 05:21 GMT
#412
Interesting pylon placement..

EDIT: nvm i saw wrong
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
June 10 2010 05:21 GMT
#413
On June 10 2010 14:16 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 14:14 De4ngus wrote:
On June 10 2010 14:12 matjlav wrote:
Way to rape, (T)Sea.

On June 10 2010 14:11 astalkulo wrote:
What's with all these terran maps, when are they changing them?


Match point is not a terran map by any means. Protoss can flank so easily, and that is much more important than a few nice tank spots. It's also very hard to defend recalls on match point. That's why the stats are pretty P-favored.

Lol? Matchpoint is definitely a Terran map.

The PvT stats say otherwise?

Those stats are flooded with Dream League and offlines. It's 35-39 PvT in the non-B-Team leagues.
My strategy is to fork people.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 10 2010 05:22 GMT
#414
Overpool for s2 again.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
June 10 2010 05:22 GMT
#415
On June 10 2010 14:19 HeadhunteR wrote:
every match i see on match point toss loses...



Stats for Match Point:

PvT: 112-85 (56.9%)

You clearly watched all games from the wrong 43.1%

Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
June 10 2010 05:22 GMT
#416
hoping s2 wins so I don't have to watch a pvp
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
June 10 2010 05:22 GMT
#417
heres the match ive been waiting for! flying v s2

battle of the downies
HEY MEYT
pettter
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1032 Posts
June 10 2010 05:22 GMT
#418
Flying going for the standard FE, s2 with overpool

I wonder where I've seen that before.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
June 10 2010 05:22 GMT
#419
On June 10 2010 14:22 Vivi57 wrote:
hoping s2 wins so I don't have to watch a pvp


pvp is good man
HEY MEYT
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 10 2010 05:22 GMT
#420
Flying goes nexus first without scouting - good stuff

s2 expands to 11.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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