Who needs Bisu? Time for the deepest Zerg lineup this side of Stars and STX to bring the pain.
I want some Hyuk ZvT. Crazy to think that only a few months ago I would've said this jokingly -- now I'm dead serious. I want Hyuk or Soo beating Classic and s2 taking Really to the woodshed. I just hope we don't get a slew of ZvZs instead.
Nice banner disciple, but could I ask you what's that black cloud in between the teams?
well, its good you are giving some feedback cause my goal was to make a simple and fast editable template, I dont want to waste more than 5 minutes for customizing the banner for every match. I just threw in the black cloud initially, and thou the whole theme doesn't look very starcraft related, I was ok with it, but now that you've said it, the cloud is starting to annoy me as well
On June 08 2010 05:20 snowdrift86 wrote: I want Hyuk or Soo beating Classic and s2 taking Really to the woodshed. I just hope we don't get a slew of ZvZs instead.
You want Hyuk or Soo to beat the guy who is 100% against zerg so far? He beat Hyuk a few days ago. I'd rather see Classic win honestly, he looks really promising.
But yeah, if they play Action twice and flood the matchup with ZvZ I will vomit.
I hope he's not going the way of past greats and being benched because of lack of skill in practice matches. I'm still hoping they're trying to get his mental state up and focus him on OSL/MSL prelims or something.
On June 08 2010 05:50 Sea.JustGod wrote: disciple you should consider making your own predictions
Why? Everyone knows his predictions would be something like: Bisu > Player X Bisu > Player Y Bisu > Player Z
ha-ha funny
I was doing predictions back in the day, but I dont see the point of them. If I can recall correctly there was a T1 vs KHAN match from a year ago, I made some complex predictions with Bisu losing his game vs great and then beating JangBi in the ace. What happened in the end was, T1 3-0ing KHAN with Bisu having a day off
On June 08 2010 11:00 Megalisk wrote: I can't think of any scenario in which estro can win this match. SKT is just a straight-up better team.
estro is the dark horse team!
haters gonna hate... i don't think most people thought of a scenario where AirforceACE would have won either D:
gogogooggogoogogestro!
Considering the last 2 times KT faced ACE, it went to ace match, I think many people believed it could happen.
You do realize that's exactly what happened in the last match between SKT and eSTRO, right? The only reason the one before that was any different was because Fantasy played all four games.
Classic didn't play in the last match so I'm interested to see what will happen.
Classic did outsmart best with that brilliant rax/cc opening into bio mech timing last time they played. This is a tough one to call and will be decided on the lineups. If Really gets to play best or Bisu, and Action gets a non zerg, I think estro will take it.
Bisu won't be playing in this series. I heard they are going to play him against ACE in the next games. (confidence booster? Just ask KT how that worked out... )
On June 08 2010 11:59 mog87 wrote: Classic did outsmart best with that brilliant rax/cc opening into bio mech timing last time they played. This is a tough one to call and will be decided on the lineups. If Really gets to play best or Bisu, and Action gets a non zerg, I think estro will take it.
thats exactly why i want to see them rematch. so that best can crush his balls, and completely humiliate the kid.
On June 08 2010 11:59 mog87 wrote: Classic did outsmart best with that brilliant rax/cc opening into bio mech timing last time they played. This is a tough one to call and will be decided on the lineups. If Really gets to play best or Bisu, and Action gets a non zerg, I think estro will take it.
thats exactly why i want to see them rematch. so that best can crush his balls, and completely humiliate the kid.
Classic will continue his tear. He requires more protoss blood.
Classic is great, he can beat BeSt if he plays well. Hyuk vs. Action would suck cuz I don't want them playing a stupid ZvZ. fantasy can win against Really hands down, but Bisu probably won't play =( My Predictions:
On June 08 2010 14:32 ZiZi Yo wrote: Wow, so many ppl wish BeSt to lose?! Even the SKT fans.. >.<
Gogogo, 도재욱, you are (the) BeSt after all!
Well, even you probably know unless he plays a scrub (Grape or hyvaa) or Flying, he won't win. And I'm mad at him for getting better than Bisu... Bisu's probably killing himself because he's lower than BeSt used to be on Kespa. And BeSt is no dragon either =( SKT needs a new Protoss coach, not Doctor K. See what the new zerg coach did to the zerg... Damn man, how the fuck did he do that?
I wouldn't dismiss BeSt that easily. He's no longer his '08 self but as far as his play and form goes, he's resurgent. He's been picking up wins without much fanfare, sooner or later he'll recover his old form IMO.
Still, I'm predicting an eSTRO win. Action, Flying and Classic for the win. Would like to see some hyukstyle along the way too
On June 08 2010 14:32 ZiZi Yo wrote: Wow, so many ppl wish BeSt to lose?! Even the SKT fans.. >.<
Gogogo, 도재욱, you are (the) BeSt after all!
Well, even you probably know unless he plays a scrub (Grape or hyvaa) or Flying, he won't win. And I'm mad at him for getting better than Bisu... Bisu's probably killing himself because he's lower than BeSt used to be on Kespa. And BeSt is no dragon either =( SKT needs a new Protoss coach, not Doctor K. See what the new zerg coach did to the zerg... Damn man, how the fuck did he do that?
Sure, I know that.. but even if Best wins, there are ppl/fans, who aren't happy 'bout that. Yeah, I know half of this is because of Bisu's hard slumping (like it's in your case), but this isn't Best's fault. I'm actually happy because at least he picks some wins and has chance to shine a little bit, though his shine is more like a spark, completely outshined by Zerg team, unfortunately. XD I absolutely agree about the new Protoss coach.
On June 08 2010 16:25 SuperJongMan wrote: What the fuck is this nonsense? Best is the best. Do Jae Wook is our new Kingdom. I love him with all my fandom.
Gogo Best! Only thing I'm moderately pleased about is that this thread got 3 pages of hype for a PL match. Thank riddance to Beta.
QFT. <3 BeSt with all my heart!! He'll come back and stomp everyone, just you see!
On June 08 2010 17:57 KizZBG wrote: ewww so many SKT1 logos in here.
It's less than in the past. A year or two ago a T1 thread would have 10-15 posts in a row with T1 logos. But now with the team going through the fire - only the true fans remain.
really moves out with ~8-9 tanks and a dozen vults with some SCVs to try to do some damage. setting on the high ground. best moves in for some zealot bombs but really unsieges and takes no losses
4 carriers moving out for best. best still hasn't taken a 3rd yet.
really snipes and obs and best can't move forward with goons anymore. +1 weapons done for carriers i believe. really has a fair amount of goliaths though
That push was neccesary before carriers but Really's unsiege timing couldn't haven been worse. Ok, maybe a lil worse, but he unsieged at about the worst time possible and Best won't let you do that.
On June 08 2010 18:23 SuperJongMan wrote: That push was neccesary before carriers but Really's unsiege timing couldn't haven been worse. Ok, maybe a lil worse, but he unsieged at about the worst time possible and Best won't let you do that.
Well Best totally baited Really into doing it with his shuttle (Really should have just allowed a few of his tanks to get bombed by splash). Once I saw the tanks unsiege as the shuttle approached, I knew it was over.
On June 08 2010 18:25 letian wrote: yes, Really used to be a solid TvP player, wtf happened?
Completely unpunished (or even scouted) 12nex, followed by a good bait, and then quick carrier switch. Best won the mindgames here, I don't think it really qualifies as Really no longer being any good at tvp.
On June 08 2010 18:26 SuperJongMan wrote: He still is. Why is it so hard to admit Best's skills?
Ye, he used to be feared in PvT with his insane macro. Guy pretty much had a nervous breakdown after the July final (and failing in Winners League final as well). If his head is back in the right place, he can beat any Terran on the planet
It didn't look like Really was even trying. He just sort of let himself get crushed, barely putting up a fight.
At least when someone who's genuinely bad at TvP like Casy or something is playing, you can see him putting his heart into it. This was just Really half-assing the game.
Replay doesn't really show anything other than Really wasting mines and throwing away a bunch of vultures to get 1 goon kill, then getting crushed when he tried to back off.
Action starts a creep colony beside the hatchery - it's taking ton of damage lots of rines dying the scv picked off but still tons of rines - the hatchery falls!
On June 08 2010 18:43 KizZBG wrote: that was a good cheese by Fantasy, he knew he wouldn't have a chance in the late game but still a boring game anyways
It shouldn't necessarily have ended that way...It was Action's job to pump lings/make sunkens once he saw the two raxes, then likely an army trade/armies back off at Action's nat, and then both players continue with the game, with both their economics relatively stunted (relative to macro oriented games), as T went BSB, and Z had to forgo drones to defend.
Oh nice - I didn't notice it earlier but after the first mistake sending the SCV into the bunker, the second time he did it was on purpose when lings focused on it, then he popped it back out to resume repair. Cute micro.
wow lol, the third 3-0 sweep for t1 in a row. if we can continue like that, reaching the playoffs should be np. if bisu is back in form until then, we are looking like a damn strong contender for the title.
I'm not being picky or anything, but it's a bit frustrating that the streams all get cut off as soon as the last game is over. We never get to see the new team rankings as a result of the match, and it's particularly important these days because so many teams have almost identical scores.
On June 08 2010 19:07 GeLaar wrote: I'm not being picky or anything, but it's a bit frustrating that the streams all get cut off as soon as the last game is over. We never get to see the new team rankings as a result of the match, and it's particularly important these days because so many teams have almost identical scores.
I'd also like to add that the post-game interviews at the stands are a bit diff from the fomos interviews which is just more reason to keep the stream running. If others weren't streaming the other games I could understand.
I try to keep mine on for the interviews and rankings, but I only stick around to do it for the earlier matches in the day. I.E. matches that start at 13:00-17:00 KST. The later I stay up the later I sleep in, and I end up wasting away my day when I'm still sleeping at 3pm =/
edit: I also didn't have a proper OGN source tonight for CJ vs KHAN, so if I stayed up my stream would have died whenever XsebT's did
On June 08 2010 19:23 Grobyc wrote: I try to keep mine on for the interviews and rankings, but I only stick around to do it for the earlier matches in the day. I.E. matches that start at 13:00-17:00 KST. The later I stay up the later I sleep in, and I end up wasting away my day when I'm still sleeping at 3pm =/
edit: I also didn't have a proper OGN source tonight for CJ vs KHAN, so if I stayed up my stream would have died whenever XsebT's did
Oh, well, it's not such a big deal, was just mentioning. And big thanks for streaming!
it is looking unreal... the Zerg lineup looks stronger than ever... i always wondered why SkT1 zergs were so bad at zvt.. oh well ZvZ looks strong for SKT1 zergs.. deep in my heart i still miss bisu..
Nice, Fantasy picking up a good 4-win streak vs Zerg. If he can keep up with that matchup he is basically back in contention for the starleagues (if Flash somehow falls ill)
On June 08 2010 19:25 SuperJongMan wrote: Whatever, I think streamers are underappreciated in general. Cept for gays like roffles. Yeah you. I called you out for your kpop.
I really wanted SKT to win the series, glad that best and fantasy are up there for the team, also s2 starting to get play time instead of Hyuk is great, good to have a better zerg players on the team