[SPL] KT Rolster vs Air Force ACE
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It's about time KT starts winning again. | ||
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Reach > Flash Yellow > Violet Ruby < Stats Anytime < Forgg Yellow > Flash The kt veterans teach the kt newbie how to play ^.^ | ||
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ruby red top left | ||
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Flash moving out with 3 tanks and 5 wraiths, clearing mines | ||
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ruby building a cc at 12. dropship from ruby gets sniped by wraiths. | ||
moopie
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ruby with 3 dropships, might be looking to drop on the island, but flash has a lot of wraiths guarding his island. | ||
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ruby also expo'd in his island at 9. flash with a double expo at expo at 7 and 8. | ||
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Now he pushes further still and breaks Ruby's line, forcing him to fall back even more. | ||
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6 base vs 2 atm. flash moving on toward's ruby's nat. | ||
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ruby with only 6 facs to flash's 10. flash reinforces his contain around ruby's nat. | ||
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Ruby GGs. | ||
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ruby attempts 1 last contain break with scvs, it fails. flash attempts to drop at ruby's nat and that doesnt go too well but it doesnt matter, ruby has nothing left. ruby ggs. | ||
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I guess he knows he wasn't meant to win this. | ||
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On May 10 2010 18:25 Lazerbeems wrote: 49 wins this season. Jesus Christ. he's leading in total wins~ | ||
Holgerius
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On May 10 2010 18:25 Lazerbeems wrote: 49 wins this season. Jesus Christ. And we're still in Round 4. XD Holy fuck. That game was brutal. I feel sad for Ruby. ![]() | ||
Emon_
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Anyway - DOMINATION! Flash is beastly good. Beastly. | ||
HopLight
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He did say after his loss vs hyvaa (where his army got contained in a bad spot) that he learnt something important. Maybe this is Flash's new innovation. | ||
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On May 10 2010 18:27 HopLight wrote: I really feel like Flash intentionally sacrificed 9 to keep Ruby's units there. Anyone else noticed how he immediately after containing, grabbed 3 more expos? He did say after his loss vs hyvaa (where his army got contained in a bad spot) that he learnt something important. Maybe this is Flash's new innovation. No way - his response to losing it was perfect but why would he intentionally sacrifice 9 as opposed to just killing all the Dropships with the stuff in it? | ||
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On May 10 2010 18:26 Emon_ wrote: KT with just 4 players today? Looks like Stats, Hoejja, another zerg and Flash. Usually there is two rows worth of players . . . Anyway - DOMINATION! Flash is beastly good. Beastly. back to the days where teams have only four players that play every game =[ | ||
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On May 10 2010 18:27 HopLight wrote: I really feel like Flash intentionally sacrificed 9 to keep Ruby's units there. Anyone else noticed how he immediately after containing, grabbed 3 more expos? He did say after his loss vs hyvaa (where his army got contained in a bad spot) that he learnt something important. Maybe this is Flash's new innovation. I don't think that he meant to (as he was guarding it with his wraiths in a nice surround when he secured the expo). He definitely acted fast and made good use of the situation though (not that those units would have made a HUGE difference, but still). | ||
HopLight
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On May 10 2010 18:28 darktreb wrote: No way - his response to losing it was perfect but why would he intentionally sacrifice 9 as opposed to just killing all the Dropships with the stuff in it? Well, the situation of killing all the dropships wouldn't have arosen, Ruby scanned for wraiths before going in and Flash had moved them all away. That said I agree that it is entirely possible that he did not do it on purpose, I just felt like it was very planned out. | ||
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On May 10 2010 18:29 HopLight wrote: Well, the situation of killing all the dropships wouldn't have arosen, Ruby scanned for wraiths before going in and Flash had moved them all away. That said I agree that it is entirely possible that he did not do it on purpose, I just felt like it was very planned out. I'm sure Flash didn't expect Ruby to drop without scanning, but I think he moved his Wraiths away in an effort to intercept the Dropships (which he probably scanned) en route, since Ruby wouldn't have been able to catch that. Either way, I don't see how Ruby expected to drop the island and not lose all his Dropships. Even if his drop succeeded (which is exactly what happened), how did he expect to get his Dropships back when Flash had like 7 Wraiths? Terrible decision by Ruby. | ||
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He did make the best of the situation though, and it made taking over the middle of the map easier (note that regardless, he had almost twice the # of units Ruby had at that point so those trapped units wouldn't have changed the outcome). | ||
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On May 10 2010 18:26 Emon_ wrote: KT with just 4 players today? Looks like Stats, Hoejja, another zerg and Flash. Usually there is two rows worth of players . . . Anyway - DOMINATION! Flash is beastly good. Beastly. Can't be violet is playing now. | ||
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reach white top right | ||
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Reach meanwhile successfully blocks his ramp with a zealot. | ||
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Violet not so lucky, as reach has a zealot on the ramp by the time he gets ready. | ||
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violet now expoing (1 gate), reach is macroing up off 2 gates atm. | ||
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Reach still pushing with his 2gates, though. Violet going 1gate robo. | ||
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reach with an army advantage picks off 2 zealots, sees the nexus and continues pushing towards the ramp violet pulling a lot of probes to the ramp, loses all but 1 of his goons. reach now attacking the nexus at the nat. | ||
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MANTOSS! | ||
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Let's see what happens now... | ||
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violet with a counter push, all goons. reach is ready on his side of the bridge with a shuttle/reaver and goons. reach pushing back and violet's forces retreat. | ||
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violet ;_; | ||
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reach pushing towards violet's nat again. reach with a lot more units and 2 reavers. violet ggs. | ||
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though Reach won, so it's the best outcome. | ||
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Pity they have slim chances to win with Flash in ace ![]() | ||
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Please let this go to Game 5 so we get to see Flash again. ![]() | ||
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On May 10 2010 18:50 iLoveKT wrote: wtf Violet all you do in pvp recently is 1 gate expand into get owned. He's having a bit of a 14CC period. | ||
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On May 10 2010 18:49 moopie wrote: [/manly]![]() | ||
anch
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6 wins in the whole friggin year, ..... | ||
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That's what happens when you nexus before pylon. | ||
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Makes you feel all good inside when the HERO wins | ||
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zvp 7:6 pvt 5:15 on this map lol | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:01 Smix wrote: tvz 14:14 zvp 7:6 pvt 5:15 on this map lol i LOL'd on the pvt 5:15 | ||
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gorush pulling his lings back. | ||
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hero probe micro, damn. probe makes it out of the base after scouting for like a minute with lings on its ass. | ||
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probe finally dies ![]() | ||
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last ling dies now, lived for a while though. 4 sairs for stats. | ||
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6th sair now joins them. dt out for chintoss. | ||
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front gateway gets destroyed. the hydras aren't pushing in yet. hydras move in now, 2 good storms for stats. zealots rush in but die. sairs get ALL the overlords, but stats has little to defend with. | ||
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stats ggs. | ||
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stats gg gorush wins | ||
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KT Flash . . . even against ACE? | ||
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This explains a lot. | ||
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LOL. | ||
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Anyways ForGG please. Just not vs Darkelf or I'm going to cry | ||
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Flash, your teammates are bad. ![]() | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:14 radadaundandan wrote: KT = Flash + mediocre ForGG + mediocre Violet and Stats And only-know-one-match-up hoejja and firefist and I-fail-at-everything luxury. | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:14 SuperArc wrote: I am laughing hard at KT fans who claim KT wouldn't be a horrible team without Flash. LOL. You're the worst poster on the forums seriously. Actually watch the games before spewing random shit. | ||
moopie
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On May 10 2010 19:16 Lazerbeems wrote: You're the worst poster on the forums seriously. Actually watch the games before spewing random shit. Yup, he is. don't feed the trolls. | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:14 radadaundandan wrote: KT = Flash + mediocre ForGG + mediocre Violet and Stats KT is a team with serious potential for growth. Even when Luxury was on board, everyone was just waiting for the time when everything would fall into place and KT would dominate. KT is a strong team, no doubt about it, though they aren't as stable and consistent, tram wise, as STX or Wongjin yet. Same with Oz. Flash is holding the boat afloat single handedly until everyone else catches up. Anyday now KT. . . | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:14 SuperArc wrote: I am laughing hard at KT fans who claim KT wouldn't be a horrible team without Flash. LOL. People actually say that? LOL. | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:16 Lazerbeems wrote: You're the worst poster on the forums seriously. Actually watch the games before spewing random shit. DAMAGE CONTROL 101 | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:16 Lazerbeems wrote: You're the worst poster on the forums seriously. Actually watch the games before spewing random shit. | ||
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PLAYING anytime ranked 62, 1-4 v terran | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:16 Lazerbeems wrote: You're the worst poster on the forums seriously. Actually watch the games before spewing random shit. Haha, even though it's totally true I'm still amused by how many people immediately jumped onto quoting this. Guess no one else is really around to give SuperArc a run for his money these days in terms of being a terrible poster. | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:11 J1.au wrote: KT fans are usually Flash fans. This explains a lot. Not all of us | ||
moopie
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2nded. But most are, hence the KT flaming. | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:26 okum wrote: Let's see which way fOrGG decides to fuck up this game. ahaha where does this come from? | ||
moopie
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Anytime gets a proxy pylon at 9. | ||
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Anytime expos, followed by ForGG about 10 seconds later. | ||
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Anytime backs into his nat, another goon comes out. Mine goes off for forgg, takes out a goon and a handful of probes transferring. another mine goes off and takes out another goon. tank still alive, being attacked by probes, gets offed by a goon | ||
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learn to bring scv to repair. ![]() like flash | ||
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KT is bad. How you can find them enjoyable is beyond me. They rely on one player for their victories, and suck terribly without him. | ||
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Anytime finally secures his nat. Forgg defintely came out ahead here. Forgg gets 2 probes into anytime's base past the goons they mine the path and takes out another few probes. more vulture harass now at the nat | ||
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another 2 come in now. mine takes out a goon anytime ggs. | ||
Ota Solgryn
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On May 10 2010 19:30 J1.au wrote: KT is bad. How you can find them enjoyable is beyond me. They rely on one player for their victories, and suck terribly without him. ehh? Are you not a KT fan yourself? | ||
Vasoline73
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On May 10 2010 19:30 J1.au wrote: KT is bad. How you can find them enjoyable is beyond me. They rely on one player for their victories, and suck terribly without him. Trolling? | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:30 J1.au wrote: KT is bad. How you can find them enjoyable is beyond me. They rely on one player for their victories, and suck terribly without him. So you can only support a team if it wins? | ||
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there is like 1/6 chance he might play. | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:32 anch wrote: oh oh, i see hoejja in the back. there is like 1/6 chance he might play. How do you get 1/6? | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:30 J1.au wrote: KT is bad. How you can find them enjoyable is beyond me. They rely on one player for their victories, and suck terribly without him. stop posting shit and remove "KTolleh" from your signature plz. | ||
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i didnt see the bench players, so i am assuming 2 of each race was bought to teh bench. just a guess | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:36 anch wrote: i didnt see the bench players, so i am assuming 2 of each race was bought to teh bench. just a guess The entire roster is there. | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:36 anch wrote: i didnt see the bench players, so i am assuming 2 of each race was bought to teh bench. just a guess Science! | ||
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Flash vs Ruby | ||
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flash vs ruby | ||
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or they prevent a 2nd Killer vs Oz ![]() | ||
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Lol KT not taking any chances with ACE ![]() | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:38 SuperArc wrote: wow KT having no trust in their other players to take this game home? or they prevent a 2nd Killer vs Oz ![]() Given their recent performance, and KT's performance in general in Round 4, I don't blame them. | ||
J1.au
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On May 10 2010 19:38 SuperArc wrote: wow KT having no trust in their other players to take this game home? KT is the #1 team; of course they have many good players... oh wait. | ||
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just give Flash his 50th win for fucks sake. | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:40 Faranth wrote: Stop posting if you're just going to keep making these ignorant and spiteful statements. No one appreciates them and it contributes nothing to the discussion. let him troll a bit before he gets banned ^_^ | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:40 Faranth wrote: Stop posting if you're just going to keep making these ignorant and spiteful statements. No one appreciates them and it contributes nothing to the discussion. I actually chuckled =p | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:38 SuperArc wrote: wow KT having no trust in their other players to take this game home? or they prevent a 2nd Killer vs Oz ![]() Why wouldn't they send Flash this week? His schedule isn't very tough at all, and he's in no danger of being sniped since he has no weak MU and there aren't any strong players in ACE. Sometimes sending the best player in an ace game makes sense, you know. | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:43 Holgerius wrote: Why wouldn't they send Flash this week? His schedule isn't very tough at all, and he's in no danger of being sniped since he has no weak MU and there aren't any strong players in ACE. Sometimes sending the best player in an ace game makes sense, you know. lol way to come down on SuperArc with a completely level headed and rational comment. | ||
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Walloff blocks Ruby's scout. BUT WAIT, Ruby does a gosu depot walk over Flash's wall! | ||
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Love this glitchy game! | ||
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Since he sees flash playing standard, he is expoing. | ||
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Marine out now to chase the SCV. | ||
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On May 10 2010 19:39 Jackal03 wrote: funny that kt need the ultimate weapon to take down ace yeah. but Its atleast better than OZ who cant take down ACE at all. | ||
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flash now scouting, sees FE and late rax/fac. flash gets a starport. | ||
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Date League Map Opponent Result + 10-05-07 2010 Korean Air OSL Match Point Pure Win + 10-05-07 2010 Korean Air OSL Eye of the Storm Pure Win + 10-05-07 2010 Korean Air OSL Great Barrier Reef Pure Win + 10-05-06 2010 Hana Daetoo MSL Fighting Spirit MVP Win + 10-05-06 2010 Hana Daetoo MSL Triathlon MVP Win + 10-05-06 2010 Hana Daetoo MSL Match Point MVP Win + 10-05-02 Shinhan 09-10 Prol.. Match Point fantasy Loss + 10-05-02 Shinhan 09-10 Prol.. Roadrunner fantasy Win + 10-04-30 2010 Korean Air OSL Great Barrier Reef BaBy Win + 10-04-29 2010 Hana Daetoo MSL Odd-Eye 2 MVP Loss + 10-04-27 Shinhan 09-10 Prol.. Polaris Rhapsody Lomo Win + 10-04-24 Shinhan 09-10 Prol.. Polaris Rhapsody Sea Win + 10-04-23 2010 Korean Air OSL Eye of the Storm BaBy Win + 10-04-22 2010 Hana Daetoo MSL Odd-Eye 2 Hwasin Win + 10-04-19 Shinhan 09-10 Prol.. Roadrunner free Win + 10-04-19 Shinhan 09-10 Prol.. Grand Line Neo.G_Soulkey Win + 10-04-17 2010 Hana Daetoo MSL Match Point Hwasin Win + 10-04-14 2010 Korean Air OSL Fighting Spirit Kal Win + 10-04-13 Shinhan 09-10 Prol.. Polaris Rhapsody Kal Win + 10-04-10 Shinhan 09-10 Prol.. Fighting Spirit Mind Win + 10-04-08 2010 Hana Daetoo MSL Triathlon Action Win + 10-04-08 2010 Hana Daetoo MSL Fighting Spirit HyuN Win + 10-04-08 2010 Hana Daetoo MSL Odd-Eye 2 Midas Loss + 10-04-07 2010 Korean Air OSL Match Point hyvaa Loss + 10-04-03 Shinhan 2010 Winne.. Judgment Day Jaehoon Win + 10-04-03 Shinhan 2010 Winne.. Roadrunner Han Win + 10-04-03 Shinhan 2010 Winne.. Neo Moon Glaive Sea Win + 10-03-31 2010 Korean Air OSL Eye of the Storm Kwanro Win + 10-03-16 Shinhan 2010 Winne.. Match Point Light Win + 10-03-16 Shinhan 2010 Winne.. Judgment Day HyuN Win + 10-03-16 Shinhan 2010 Winne.. New Tornado Sea Win + 10-03-13 Shinhan 2010 Winne.. Neo Moon Glaive Leta Loss + 10-03-10 Shinhan 2010 Winne.. Neo Moon Glaive Calm Win + 10-03-10 Shinhan 2010 Winne.. Fighting Spirit Kal Win + 10-03-10 Shinhan 2010 Winne.. Judgment Day Shuttle Win + 10-03-07 Shinhan 2010 Winne.. Match Point BaBy Win + 10-03-07 Shinhan 2010 Winne.. Neo Moon Glaive RorO Win + 10-03-01 Shinhan 2010 Winne.. Roadrunner Kwanro Win + 10-02-23 Shinhan 2010 Winne.. New Tornado M18M Loss + 10-02-23 Shinhan 2010 Winne.. Roadrunner Stork Win Impressive amount of wins? O.O | ||
Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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Orpheus
United States35 Posts
starport + addon making. ruby about to rage quit lol~ | ||
QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Starport adding a control tower meanwhile. Vulture with 3 kills already, Ruby ends up losing 4 SCVs and a TON of mining time. | ||
moopie
12605 Posts
vult from flash runs by just as the marine gets into the bunker. ruby chasing it around the base with 7 scvs. flash with great micro picking them off 1 by 1. finally dies (3 kills i think) | ||
QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On May 10 2010 19:43 Holgerius wrote: Why wouldn't they send Flash this week? His schedule isn't very tough at all, and he's in no danger of being sniped since he has no weak MU and there aren't any strong players in ACE. Sometimes sending the best player in an ace game makes sense, you know. To build up confidence for the playoffs? | ||
Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On May 10 2010 19:48 QuothTheRaven wrote: Flash going allin with 2port! I don't think it's actually all-in when Flash does it against against Ruby ;> | ||
moopie
12605 Posts
flash getting a 2nd starport meanwhile. flash mines up the area by the factory, tank pops up seconds later and dies immidiately. | ||
QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Vultures now annihilating SCVs. Dropship comes back with another vult, wraith in there killing more SCVs as well. | ||
moopie
12605 Posts
ruby now building his own wraith, but its not going to be done in time. ruby's wraith finally comes out, but flash has lost most of his scvs (3 left). flash's wraiths kill ruby's wraith now and attack the scvs. | ||
moopie
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
*comes 2 more wraiths* Ruby: fuck. | ||
radadaundandan
Bulgaria3148 Posts
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
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Faranth
933 Posts
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
The longer the game goes on the easier Flash is going to win. | ||
Graham
Canada1259 Posts
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LuDwig-
Italy1143 Posts
in fact it was XD | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
What a monster. | ||
QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Oh and thanks for the stream ![]() | ||
Wings
United States999 Posts
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
Another day; another record. | ||
emoniax
Philippines81 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
![]() 50-motherfucking-wins. | ||
Caos2
United States1728 Posts
On May 10 2010 19:51 Fionn wrote: 50 wins before Round 5. What a monster. Well, if Flash won 50 games so far, what does that mean for the rest of his team? | ||
Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
1) Flash is a monster 2) Flash is overused congrats flash | ||
Emon_
3925 Posts
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Wings
United States999 Posts
On May 10 2010 19:52 Caos2 wrote: Well, if Flash won 50 games so far, what does that mean for the rest of his team? I'm actually curious... is it true that Flash's wins >>> total wins from the rest of KT? | ||
fallingdream
Romania452 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
On May 10 2010 19:52 Caos2 wrote: Well, if Flash won 50 games so far, what does that mean for the rest of his team? That the rest of KT are hella good at winning exactly 1 game per match. | ||
Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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emoniax
Philippines81 Posts
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
On May 10 2010 19:56 emoniax wrote: I saw Flash record's 49-7... was that his record for this year or just this season's proleague alone??? and btw just became 50-7 few mins ago proleague shame he has no real shot at getting back to 90% ![]() | ||
Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
![]() 50 wins already is sick. ![]() | ||
StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
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emoniax
Philippines81 Posts
On May 10 2010 19:57 o[twist] wrote: proleague shame he has no real shot at getting back to 90% ![]() he needs to 20 game winning streak... which has never been done i think. correct me if im wrong... but who needs that streak when u will win both OSL and MSL and carry ur team to a SPL crown. | ||
Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On May 10 2010 19:57 o[twist] wrote: proleague shame he has no real shot at getting back to 90% ![]() He only has to win his next 13 games. No problem. | ||
M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
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dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
On May 10 2010 20:01 M2 wrote: They are 4-4 now actually. KT have negative stats for round 4 yes? ![]() | ||
moopie
12605 Posts
On May 10 2010 19:52 Caos2 wrote: Well, if Flash won 50 games so far, what does that mean for the rest of his team? On May 10 2010 19:53 Jackal03 wrote: 50 wins on the 5th round shows 2 things: 1) Flash is a monster 2) Flash is overused It says that he has a monstrous win %. If you check his stats for this season's proleague, he actually hasn't played many more games than a handful of 'top' players. Not counting tonight's games (not yet updated in TLPD): Flash has 51 wins - 7 losses (including WL finals) = 60 games total Kal has 32 wins - 20 losses = 52 games total Jaedong has 38 wins - 18 losses = 56 games total. Light has 39 wins - 24 losses = 63 games total Zero has 32 wins - 19 losses = 51 games total Really also has 32 wins - 19 losses = 51 games total Leta has 34 wins - 19 losses = 53 games total Overused? perhaps, but not drastically so compared to others. 50 wins in the 4th round mainly means he just has 88% win record compared to jaedong's 68%, Leta's 64%, Zero/Really's 63% and Kal's/Light's 62%. (Yes, I'm aware this won't stop the trolls hating on KT in this thread for using flash for ace). Edit: for good measure, added a few more. Edit2: apparently at 5am I fail at addition, but while I'm here again, added Leta as well. | ||
iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On May 10 2010 20:10 iLoveKT wrote: wow interesting. I never knew MBC was abusing Light much more than KT abuses Flash. lol imho light mainly has such a high amount of games because of all his all-kills in WL. each allkill gives 4 games at once... | ||
Fx_
503 Posts
On May 10 2010 19:57 StylishVODs wrote: Flash + ForGG fighting!! forGG<3 | ||
QibingZero
2611 Posts
Poor Ruby. ;; | ||
SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On May 10 2010 20:08 moopie wrote: It says that he has a monstrous win %. If you check his stats for this season's proleague, he actually hasn't played many more games than a handful of 'top' players. Not counting tonight's games (not yet updated in TLPD): Flash has 51 wins - 7 losses (including WL finals) = 60 games total Kal has 32 wins - 20 losses = 52 games total Jaedong has 38 wins - 18 losses = 50 games total. Light has 39 wins - 24 losses = 63 games total Zero has 32 wins - 19 losses = 51 games total Really also has 32 wins - 19 losses - 51 games total Overused? perhaps, but not drastically so compared to others. 50 wins in the 4th round mainly means he just has 88% win record compared to jaedong's 68%, Zero/Really's 63% and Kal's/Light's 62%. (Yes, I'm aware this won't stop the trolls hating on KT in this thread for using flash for ace). Edit: for good measure, added a few more. Flash has 48 wins not counting today's and 50 counting today's. :p | ||
moopie
12605 Posts
On May 10 2010 20:19 SuperArc wrote: Flash has 48 wins not counting today's and 50 counting today's. :p Note that I said "Including WL finals". | ||
SubtleArt
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Gtks
Greece135 Posts
minerals for a supply depot just to get inside and see what the build order? With that amoud of money if you play with 1 factory you can build 6 vultures (6 X 75 = 450) and you have 50 minerals advandage for a starport. Flash the only information he need it was if there is a 2nd command center in his rubys base and when he seen it he knew he won the game. That was simple mathimatics. Thats made the vultire russ and the wraith russ possible. I also learned and the edit button (thanks) i don't like music in the stream only 1 stream link ;( but i like to dedicate a song to the anti-Flash club with the look "how did i loose this?" the song "looser" Artist Beck lyrics: In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey, butane in my veins so I'm out to get the junkie with the plastic eyeballs, spraypaint the vegetables, dog food stalls with the beefcake pantyhose, kill the headlights and put it in neutral, stockcar flaming with a loser in the cruise control, baby's in Reno with the vitamin D, got a couple of couches, sleep on the love seat, someone came sayin' I'm insane to complain about a shotgun wedding and a stain on my shirt, don't believe everything that you breathe, you get a parking violation and a maggot on your sleeve, so shave your face with some mace in the dark, saving all your food stamps for burning down the trailer park, yo, cut it Soy un perdedor, I'm a loser baby so why don't you kill me, double barrel buckshot, Soy un perdedor, I'm a loser baby so why don't you kill me, forces of evil on a bozo nightmare, ban all the music with a phony gas chamber cause one's got a weasel and others got a flag, one's on the pole, shove the other in the bag, with the rerun shows and cocaine nose job, the daytime crap of the folk singers slop, he hung himself with a guitar string, a slab of turkey neck and it's hangin' from a pigeon wing, I can't write if ya' can't relate, trade the cash for the beef for the body for the hate, and my time is a piece of wax, fallen on a termite, who's chokin' on the splinters Soy un perdedor, I'm a loser baby so why don't you kill me get crazy with the cheez-wiz, Soy un perdedor, I'm a loser baby so why don't you kill me drive, by, body pierce yo bring it on down Soy (em llik uoy t'nod yhw os ybab resol a m'I, rodedrep nu yoS) I'm a driver, I'm a winner things are gonna' change I can feel it Soy un perdedor, I'm a loser baby so why don't you kill me Gtks: I can't believe it Soy un perdedor, I'm a loser baby so why don't you kill me Soy un perdedor, I'm a loser baby so why don't you kill me Sprechen sie deutsch, baby Soy un perdedor, I'm a loser baby so why don't you kill me Gtks: You know what I'm sayin' Ps: I done from this theat. | ||
SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Yeah, but why? :o | ||
moopie
12605 Posts
Just cause I sorted all the players from 09-10-10 (beginning of 2009-2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague) including all team leagues (so that I don't have to add up both WL and proleague seperately). WL finals are included on said list, even though their scores don't officially count. It makes the process (and linking to the data) simpler. edit: also, excluding the finals only helps my point by dropping his total games (-tonight) to 57, thus bringing them even closer to the other top players. My point was merely that he isn't as overused as people think he is. He is however keeping KT alive a lot, which I don't think anyone has disputed (but he isn't doing that by playing that many more games than other top players). | ||
okum
France5778 Posts
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
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SturmAddict
Malaysia176 Posts
What i don't understund is Rubys moves i mostly speack about strategie in a gamelay objetives, priorities. The last match Ruby throw 400 minerals for a second command center and 100 minerals for a supply depot just to get inside and see what the build order? With thout amoud of money if you play with 1 factory you can build 6 vultures (6 X 75 = 450) and you have 50 minerals advandage for a starport. Flash the only information he need it was if there is a 2nd command center in his rubys base and when he seen it he knew he won the game. You are wrong -.- 14CC is safe against 1 fact expand / 2 fact pushes if you know what he is going to do. 14CC--> 1 fact tanks-->starport is safe if the opponent expanded vs your 14cc 14CC--> 2-3 fact vults is safe against most aggressive one base early fact play vs 14cc Ruby thought flash expanded, so he built his starport. before second fact. Flash didnt expand, so he won. | ||
moopie
12605 Posts
On May 10 2010 20:47 SturmAddict wrote: You are wrong -.- 14CC is safe against 1 fact expand / 2 fact pushes if you know what he is going to do. 14CC--> 1 fact tanks-->starport is safe if the opponent expanded vs your 14cc 14CC--> 2-3 fact vults is safe against most aggressive one base early fact play vs 14cc Ruby thought flash expanded, so he built his starport. before second fact. Flash didnt expand, so he won. Also he cancelled the supply depot after he squeezed his scv through the wall, so he didn't throw away 100 mins on it. | ||
Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On May 10 2010 20:22 SubtleArt wrote: Ruby 31% TvT 63% TvZ what the fuck? You seem surprised. Everyone knows Ruby is pretty good at TvZ. Dunno why they would sacrifice him to lose to Flash... AGAIN in the same night but whatever *shrugs* | ||
HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On May 10 2010 21:29 Silentness wrote: You seem surprised. Everyone knows Ruby is pretty good at TvZ. Dunno why they would sacrifice him to lose to Flash... AGAIN in the same night but whatever *shrugs* They probably figured that if KT sends Flash its hopeless no matter what, but that if they send Hoejja Ruby's got it in the bag. | ||
StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
His scouting SCV snuck inside Flash's base and saw 3 scv on gas after the factory was built. At most, he didn't realize that Flash went another starport afterwords. | ||
dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
On May 10 2010 21:29 Silentness wrote: Maybe the ACE coach thought after the 1st match, KT would let Flash rest to continue practice for the MSL and send out Hoejja for the 5th game? You seem surprised. Everyone knows Ruby is pretty good at TvZ. Dunno why they would sacrifice him to lose to Flash... AGAIN in the same night but whatever *shrugs* ![]() | ||
StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On May 10 2010 21:36 dtnmang wrote: Maybe the ACE coach thought after the 1st match, KT would let Flash rest to continue practice for the MSL and send out Hoejja for the 5th game? ![]() Yeah thats probably it.. | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Hmm but Reach is pretty hot so it's okay. | ||
iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
On May 10 2010 22:03 flamewheel91 wrote: And KTFlash can't even 3-0 or 3-1 ACE? Hmm but Reach is pretty hot so it's okay. better than Jaedong Oz against ACE at least. | ||
J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![]() He's so big... | ||
JSH
United States4109 Posts
Wasn't Flash called the Little Monster? lol he did step out a bit so I suppose that is why | ||
On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Should of sent Much in ace to snipe flash! | ||
LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
Read the LR, the other KTs failed hard and went 1-2 versus ACE players... | ||
Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On May 11 2010 00:21 JSH wrote: Wasn't Flash called the Little Monster? lol he did step out a bit so I suppose that is why Time to call him a Big Monster. But yeah, KTFlash for the rescue once again... | ||
Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Triple7
United States656 Posts
On May 10 2010 20:34 nozaro33 wrote: Wow Violet and Stats FAIL You can't blame Violet, he lost to REACH after all! | ||
Biff The Understudy
France7888 Posts
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Wings
United States999 Posts
On May 11 2010 05:37 Biff The Understudy wrote: KT is beyond bad this season. How come did they pwnd so much last season... I remember that Flash didn't do that many all kills. Yeah, Flash didn't do that many all kills... cuz the rest of KT is uncannily good at getting only 1 kill. Thus Flash had a ton of 3-kills in WL and 2-kills in PL. | ||
hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
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Rkie
United States1278 Posts
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Wings
United States999 Posts
On May 10 2010 19:52 moopie wrote: ![]() 50-motherfucking-wins. I love that crown that they use to symbolize 50 wins. I can't imagine what the hell it would look like if he got to 60 wins lol | ||
Arite
United States218 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
POOR 815 I CANT SEE CHU | ||
dani_caliKorea
730 Posts
On May 11 2010 09:39 Wings wrote: I love that crown that they use to symbolize 50 wins. I can't imagine what the hell it would look like if he got to 60 wins lol It will be just the crown and the 10 win star. | ||
sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
what a beast flash | ||
dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
On May 11 2010 03:38 Disregard wrote: roflmao.Damn it stop feeding Flash matches, his ELO needs to stop rising. Seeing Flash rising his ELO is pretty much like seeing him rebuild an army in no-time after the previous one has been destroyed =/ | ||
TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Violet lost cuz REACH | ||
maneatingshoe
Canada484 Posts
All: 33-27(55.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L L L L L W W W L | View Games vT: 11-9 (55.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L W W W W W L L | View Games vZ: 11-9 (55.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L L L W W L W W L | View Games vP: 11-9 (55.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L L W W L W L L W | View Games kind of random | ||
JFKWT
Singapore1442 Posts
On May 11 2010 12:33 maneatingshoe wrote: I just wanted to point out that stats' loss last night gave him these stats: All: 33-27(55.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L L L L L W W W L | View Games vT: 11-9 (55.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L W W W W W L L | View Games vZ: 11-9 (55.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L L L W W L W W L | View Games vP: 11-9 (55.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W L L W W L W L L W | View Games kind of random I see what u did there hahhaa | ||
Gtks
Greece135 Posts
On May 10 2010 20:47 SturmAddict wrote: You are wrong -.- 14CC is safe against 1 fact expand / 2 fact pushes if you know what he is going to do. 14CC--> 1 fact tanks-->starport is safe if the opponent expanded vs your 14cc 14CC--> 2-3 fact vults is safe against most aggressive one base early fact play vs 14cc Ruby thought flash expanded, so he built his starport. before second fact. Flash didnt expand, so he won. 6 vultures total build time 1.80 secs with 1 factory cost 450 minerals for a 2nd fact you need +80 secs build time (time from 1 scv to build 1 factory) but you are counting to reduce the total build time in half your point taken, 2 fact push seems safer, but your scout will do the scan if you lucky in 10-30 secs in end if you try to push the limits as mutch as you can like Flash always does (this is the REAL issue in my post) you may not need the second Starport. Flash with exellent play wipped out the most Probs and drop 3 vultures with mines, trupped down rubys factory 1 tank (+50 secs build time of 1 tank go figure if 1 or more tanks was in the line another 50 secs wait untill the next one) blowed up from 1 mine Game Over. Think 3 Vultures can also trup 2 Factories and 1 Barrak do you really need to add +80 secs build time and that cost need to be removed from economy Ruby needed to build units and it seemed to anyone didn't had? The Starport ruby did was correct move, if he could survive the russ he may cleaned his base from the mines with a Scan and the Wraiths, he may also counting to scan the area with the wraith from a possible macro build, they are fast, as Flash did (some luck need it) + the drop ship protection. It's alote of safer to make some tanks, vultures before you spend for the 2nd factory or expand or a mashine shop upgrade (siege mode). Ruby was late, TIME is needed to make units no matter how many minerals you have in the end. 14cc cost more than 400 and that's the thing, you need 12 scs to the minerals + 2 scv to the refillery count it down (cost + build time) is always risky but Flash manages to protect with "Flash can happen to anyone" Technique without loosing mutch in an early push and that the second issue. The thing is you must ALWAYS can answer the questions "i have x mineras y guss so what units , how many in what time i can build?", "he lost x minerals and y gass what i can do this advandage" if you wand to have some chance with Flash and this the other real issue. I really thought the "looser" lyrics was enough. | ||
Gtks
Greece135 Posts
Ps: Spear me the details do read again the "looser" lyrics | ||
SturmAddict
Malaysia176 Posts
Like all ballers Ruby wanted to 14cc versus flash, knowing recently flash almost never pull 8 rax BBS in a tvt (lol) So yea, and Flash played standard. Flash probably wanted to two fact or fact starport or expand, but Ruby somehow glitched himself in by building a supply depot. Ruby also saw the 3 SCV's on gas before the scv died, therefore Ruby thought its gonne be some gas heavy build like 2 fact tanks with a very fast siege mode, or just a plain 3 fact vults on one base? Either way, Ruby responds by building a starport, researching siege mode, getting an academy, after his first factory thinking that he can get away if he can get siege mode asap, hold his front, use his buildings to stop vulture runby, and he is ahead 2 v 1 base. However Flash knew Ruby knows he had 3 scv's on gas. therefore he guessed Ruby will probably get a fast siege mode to stop his "supposed 2 fact tanks siege mode" push. So he decided to do a timing drop with mines, which work perfectly as shown, he got his vultures to murder the first tank with mines while Ruby had only 1 fact and its producing tanks. The 2 port was also excellent, not only did give a "buffer" if his vult drops failed, it also transitioned smoothly with his fast dropship. Very excellent decision making there. Also to note, 2 port also raeps 1 port w/o armory | ||
Gtks
Greece135 Posts
The resume in all these is that both players took the right desicisions Ruby seemed to played without a mistake but some diffrence in litle details always making the BIG DIFFERENCE. In the bottom line is not so important to see the others players base the information "is there a 2nd command center?" is need it some things are basics. | ||
iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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Gtks
Greece135 Posts
2 scv = 100 minerals you can build 1 vulture and you have +25 minerals advandage for the next vulture Do read the "looser" lyrics i will not spend more time in this one, Cya in the next Flash game. | ||
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