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Shinhan Bank Proleague 09-10 Round 4 Week 2
vs. CJ Entus vs WeMade FOX Tuesday, Apr 20 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
In the new Shinhan Bank PL format, post 2v2, 6 teams advance to the playoffs. 3 teams have a pretty cushy lead above the rest (KT, STX, MBC), 2 teams have relative safety in 4th and 5th (SKT and Woongjin) and should advance unless they hit a major slump.
6th place is much tighter. It's nearly a dead heat among WeMade, eSTRO, hite, KHAN, and CJ. Every win matters, and every chance to knock one of the other 4 down matters even more.
WeMade started the 09-10 season with an unimpressive lineup of Mind, Pure, Shine, and Roro. While not dominant, this lineup won consistently enough to win with some consistency and upset the big 5 once in a while. Constantly underrated, you'd hear cries of "Roro's raping my anti-team" in LR threads, streams, and FPL discussions everywhere. The 4 were winning at a rate just above .500, which is all you need for the playoffs. The problem was the lack of an ace. Shine was too predictable to be played for an ace match, and Roro just couldn't seem to win one. To solve this problem, WeMade called up Baby from the B-team. Baby's individual league success is nothing to dismiss with wins over Jaedong and Stork, and if he brings that level of play to Proleague, WeMade should secure a playoff spot, especially with the depth they gain from the rule changes that allow them to play old-schoolers Midas and Nada with more frequency.
CJ, at this point, seems like an unlikely team to finish in the top 6. The 2009 rookie stars of Movie, Skyhigh, and Effort have all hit slumps, although Movie seems to be recovering, advancing to the Ro16 of the MSL and Ro8 of the OSL. Could Savior's illegal gambling have cursed CJ and its players to not win a league, similar to how the White Sox didn't win a World Series for 86 years after their scandal? Regardless of curses, CJ is looking to their B-team much like they did when the Savior, Iris, Much lineup began to crack. Will CJ go balls-out to win a championship, or just try to give BByong, Rush, Snow, Devil, Miso, and Hydra as much A-team experience as possible? [/spoiler]
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bring it home effort! wemade TOTALLY isnt a team you will play ZvT against...
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United States11637 Posts
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Shine vs. Effort grudge match upcoming!
WeMade's success depends on how many terrans they want to bring.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
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midas+nada+baby, wemade terrans will destroy CJ's movie/effort. skyhigh might stand a chance, but thats it.
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I'm just wondering if EffOrt and Shine are going to play at all... They both have to be exhausted from the OSL rematches couple days ago. Same with go.go...
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Pure, Midas and Nada got this :D:D
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Canada5565 Posts
On April 20 2010 12:37 majesty.k)seRapH wrote: midas+nada+baby, wemade terrans will destroy CJ's movie/effort. skyhigh might stand a chance, but thats it.
I agree that we will see an all T lineup from FOX but I would count on Skyhigh to take a TvT, and after that it's pretty easy to see Movie or Effort getting 1 win between the two of them. Then it goes to ace and Baby tears shit up ^.^
edit: actually, I would bet on Skyhigh beating Baby in a TvT
edit2: goddamn..take a look at Snow's vT record. CJ might be able to win this.
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Too much T in this matchup so I'll choose the STX-eSTRO stream. Holding my thumbs for Movie playing a great game against FOX
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Baa?21243 Posts
How can you predict Effort to win any ZvT =P
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is awesome32274 Posts
I don't think sKyHigh will lose TvT.
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This is very hard,i ecpect great things from both teams this R4.Hoping for CJ anyway.
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On April 20 2010 16:57 eleganten wrote: Too much T in this matchup so I'll choose the STX-eSTRO stream. Holding my thumbs for Movie playing a great game against FOX Bah! Good point. I am a CJ fan though, so I am torn.
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Nah, shine will say his keyboard is broken and regame.
awesome.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
MOVIE VS MIDAS???
MIDAS PWN THE NOOB :D
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is there an option to watch that dual stream that sometimes pops up?
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
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On April 20 2010 18:10 below66 wrote: is there an option to watch that dual stream that sometimes pops up? ds.zeroboy.net/(stream1)/(stream2)
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
FUCK THAT MINE! NOOO
Take out the Nexus at least Midas!
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That storm drop could have done so much more damage if he aimed the storms differently...
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Vulture raid gets A LOT of SCVs!
YESS MIDAS! Great reaction to the Templars after the initial strike.
Movie building up a rather deadly looking force though, and with TvP the way it is on this map...
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Vultures raiding the base at 11
2 cannons are nothing to 6 vultures
now time to assault the probes
Movie eating a lot of mine damage as he moves his army to respond
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Movie parking an army on the highground near 3 he walks up a templar and storms a bunch of scvs!
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Midas with a lot of Vulture raids that get some Probes...
ARGH Blasted templar storming from above the cliff.... 10 kills...
Dual stargate Arbs...
AHHH STORM ON MIDAS'S TANKS!!!
HOLY FUCK Midas just has TOO MANY!
Repair repair Midas!
And get more Vultures :3
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Vultures probe the base on the other side of 9, but too many cannons there
small attack on Midas's base at 3 storms deal a ton of damage to the clumped tanks but Movie's forces too small to finish things up and he loses lots of goons and retreats
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Midas moves to pursue but Goons make a small sandwich and catch the unsieged tanks off guard...another storm deals some hp damage to some tanks Midas probably lost in the latter part of that exchange
Midas still on 3 bases
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Midas with 3 vessels now? Where did they come from.
Midas clearly taking control of his high ground.
Also taking bottom right once his CC gets there.
Midas pushing forward with his army...
NOOO EMP MISSES
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Movie taking his 5th at 12
An emp launched, but the arbiter dodges
Midas landing a CC at 5 but there's a DT there his push reaches the lowground by Movie's nat!
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Midas's army knocking at Movie's front door - Movie moving to counter?
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Midas has a small defense line at home - can he cut down on Movie's counter?
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Midas seems to be pushing to below Movie's natural...
Is this wise?
Movie biding his time until he can attack...
Oh wait Midas is moving his tank line above the ramp!
OMG DT AT BOTTOM RIGHT 7 KILLS!!!
Movie choosing to counter attack instead of Defending!
MIDAS WITH A LOT OF TANKS!
BUT STASIS FIELDUU!!!
MIDAS HOLD PLZ!!!
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Midas has taken out Movie's nat and is shelling Movie's 3rd above 9
While Movie still at Midas's 3rd at 3 and won't move towards Midas's nat
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Midas now halfway into Movie's main - no units there but a few templar, who drop their storms
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Midas going to COMPLETELY rape Movie's main!
MOVIE RETURNING WITH HIS UNITS!
YESSS MIDAS!!!!
Movie's main is COMPLETELY compromised! I love it.
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Movie adding a gateway at 12 - he's not in good shape if he can't regain control of his main
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Midas retaking his base at 3
Movie losing lots of gateways in his main, builds some at 11.
But midas moves a mid-sized army to wreck Movie's base at 12
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Siege Tanks are IMBA. All of Starcraft has been a history of the other races trying to get around those assholes. Stupid tanks.
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Movie's toast - he only has 11 left, and there's not much there
a DT attacks SCVs at 3 but it won't make a difference
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DT is cleared - Midas's army knocking on the door of Movie's last base
the pylon wall killed
small goon force attacks midas's 3rd at 3
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Movie relying on DTs to try and climb back into this.
HA yeah right loser Movie.
Midas with a huge army stomping on Movie. Movie has this one last army to try to inflict some damage, but Midas macro will clearly prevail and churn out enough units to stopm this attack... right?
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Midas runs his scvs from 3 and loses the CC there vultures and goliaths move into 11 proper to attack
both players not mining, basically
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Midas needs to defend his main - defend his main and he wins
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Movie's final base at top left falls.
Midas mounting a desperate defense at his main...
Why not return home to defend Midas? I heard it's a good strategy...
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE GONNA LOSE YOUR SHIT!
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Movie moving into Midas's main with 8 goons or so, one templar and one arbiter
MIdas just lifts and floats his buildings away from his main
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lol I love watching elimination races
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France2061 Posts
Buildings float. Midas wins.
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"You never want to get into an elimination race with a terran."
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It's going to be elimination and Movie has few buildings left while Midas can float his stuff
Movie concedes
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
LOL Midas going to lift his factories instead.
Elimination race going to go down? Even though Midas still has econ and stuff?
Midas now moving to eliminate Movie's last units.
MINES rape Movie's units. GG from Movie.
<3 MIDAS!!!
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this midas guy is pretty good
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Movie is so inconsistent and stupid, why the hell did he allow Midas to freely attack his base when he had Midas pincered?
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gg
+ Show Spoiler +Time to see if Wemade can follow this up. *rubs hands together*
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Terrible game, reminded me of Lux vs Up, but at least that one was rigged...
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On April 20 2010 18:35 ShadeR wrote: Yay good for anti =]] If only Movie's losses gave points...
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holy shit my ears boes lol
Edit: who's that gee gee remix by?
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Midas kicking major ass Glad to see him succeed. Although I regret taking him off my final FPL.
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that was brilliant!
midas on my main and movie on anti ^^
sweet play. midas doing really well this round
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On April 20 2010 18:35 FireGuyX wrote: Movie is so inconsistent and stupid, why the hell did he allow Midas to freely attack his base when he had Midas pincered? The decision making was horrible. He traded his main base + two expansions for Midas 3o'clock. The fuck was that?
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and Movie still sucks against Terrans.
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Movie once again proves that his PvT is dumb as hell.
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On April 20 2010 18:37 Emon_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 18:35 FireGuyX wrote: Movie is so inconsistent and stupid, why the hell did he allow Midas to freely attack his base when he had Midas pincered? The decision making was horrible. He traded his main base + two expansions for Midas 3o'clock. The fuck was that?
Yeah if Movie pincered that attack, it would of wiped out Midas army and Movie would of had a huge lead. I don't understand that trade-off by Movie, his economy was up and running.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On April 20 2010 18:43 FireGuyX wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 18:37 Emon_ wrote:On April 20 2010 18:35 FireGuyX wrote: Movie is so inconsistent and stupid, why the hell did he allow Midas to freely attack his base when he had Midas pincered? The decision making was horrible. He traded his main base + two expansions for Midas 3o'clock. The fuck was that? Yeah if Movie pincered that attack, it would of wiped out Midas army and Movie would of had a huge lead. I don't understand that trade-off by Movie, his economy was up and running. Perhaps you underestimate the number of tanks that Midas had and the positioning that he held. There were basically only small chokes leading to Midas's army, and Movie's army primarily consisted of goons. Midas also had 3 vessels with his army. Unless Movie got some baller stasises off, then I highly doubt that Movie could've defeated Midas's army that cleanly.
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United States11637 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Shine with a pretty good defense.
Unfortunately he's behind BIG TIME on Spire timing.
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On April 20 2010 18:39 Holgerius wrote: Movie once again proves that his PvT is dumb as hell.
tell that to baby
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United States11390 Posts
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On April 20 2010 18:47 Mystlord wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 18:43 FireGuyX wrote:On April 20 2010 18:37 Emon_ wrote:On April 20 2010 18:35 FireGuyX wrote: Movie is so inconsistent and stupid, why the hell did he allow Midas to freely attack his base when he had Midas pincered? The decision making was horrible. He traded his main base + two expansions for Midas 3o'clock. The fuck was that? Yeah if Movie pincered that attack, it would of wiped out Midas army and Movie would of had a huge lead. I don't understand that trade-off by Movie, his economy was up and running. Perhaps you underestimate the number of tanks that Midas had and the positioning that he held. There were basically only small chokes leading to Midas's army, and Movie's army primarily consisted of goons. Midas also had 3 vessels with his army. Unless Movie got some baller stasises off, then I highly doubt that Movie could've defeated Midas's army that cleanly.
But it was mostly tanks with little vultures, I think Midas sieged late too. And lets say most of the goons get wiped out, Movie could have easily replaced his units.
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Time to rape this drones - revenge.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
And Shine rapes Hydra's mutas.
Stop trying Hydra. You're screwed. All of Hydra's Drones die, errrrr yeah.
GG from Hydra.
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Hydra concedes, shine wins.
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just woke up to see
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On April 20 2010 18:53 Harem wrote:
haha xD
anyways, I thought Hydra played quite well given the circumstances, gg
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you don't expect a player called hydra to be very good at zvz
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On April 20 2010 18:52 zmeqt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 18:39 Holgerius wrote: Movie once again proves that his PvT is dumb as hell. tell that to baby Are you gonna try to argue he's good at PvT?
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On April 20 2010 18:57 jalstar wrote: you don't expect a player called hydra to be very good at zvz
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hahaha boes you kill me with your stuff
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But seriously, a lamb for a pet?
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On April 20 2010 19:00 Katsuge wrote:
wrong thread yo
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On April 20 2010 18:55 FireGuyX wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 18:47 Mystlord wrote:On April 20 2010 18:43 FireGuyX wrote:On April 20 2010 18:37 Emon_ wrote:On April 20 2010 18:35 FireGuyX wrote: Movie is so inconsistent and stupid, why the hell did he allow Midas to freely attack his base when he had Midas pincered? The decision making was horrible. He traded his main base + two expansions for Midas 3o'clock. The fuck was that? Yeah if Movie pincered that attack, it would of wiped out Midas army and Movie would of had a huge lead. I don't understand that trade-off by Movie, his economy was up and running. Perhaps you underestimate the number of tanks that Midas had and the positioning that he held. There were basically only small chokes leading to Midas's army, and Movie's army primarily consisted of goons. Midas also had 3 vessels with his army. Unless Movie got some baller stasises off, then I highly doubt that Movie could've defeated Midas's army that cleanly. But it was mostly tanks with little vultures, I think Midas sieged late too. And lets say most of the goons get wiped out, Movie could have easily replaced his units. But Movie almost certainly didn't have any units in his main when Midas initially pushed in. That means that Movie would've had to wait for his units in the main to finish before pushing in. Midas was already on 4 base on his side of the map (essentially), so if Movie took out Midas's force, he would've lost his natural 100% and been behind on econ.
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On April 20 2010 19:00 7mk wrote:wrong thread yo
wemade 3-0 seems likely tho, i can't think of any scenario where cj wins this next game
snow vs major maybe
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Super happy to see midas back in shape again. If only he was still on SKT, but I guess he needed the move to Wemade to blossom again..
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On April 20 2010 19:00 Katsuge wrote: estro 3-0 inc?!
Lol wrong thread, this is WeMade 3-0 
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Holy crap the ads are repetitive.
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Looking a wee bit grim for CJ. Not out yet though, and who knows maybe they'll come back? You never know.
We'll see how it goes.
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Meh Hydra, Movie losing to a terran is normal, but you shouldnt lose a ZvZ...
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United States11637 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
IRIS IS THE BACK!!!! YEAHHHHHHH
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Fuck yeah Iris. Wow he looks sleepy. And his record (this year?) sucks!
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wow, berseker!
it's been a while
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
IRIS VS LUCIFER? LOOOOOL 1 sided rape IMO :D
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lucifer. EZ prey for the BERSERKER!
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Berserker the dominant Terran at 5. Lucifer the protoss prey at 11.
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gogogo iris!
welcome back to the lineup
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Watch as Berserker's industrious SCVs gather the resources required to CRUSH his enemies.
While Lucifer's probes only prolong the time until his defeat.
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On April 20 2010 19:08 zOrK. wrote: where is nada. :'( Saving him in case of ace game yo.
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Berserker brilliantly decides to build his depot at his natural choke. He knows the best offense is a great defense.
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I have a feeling the coward Protoss will go Nexus first...
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Indeed, the unscrupulous Lucifer tries to abuse PvT by going Nexus before gateway He starts his gateway to hell now.
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rofl what on earth is Iris supposed to do about that T_T
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
12 Nex from Lucifer, some sort of natural wall-in from Iris?
1 SCV on gas as well.
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Iris finishes his natural wall with another depot - it'll be impenetrable from hell's agents!
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Core starts for the agent of evil, while Iris starts his first factory. His valiant metal army will soon rumble the earth!
Iris's SCV scouts and sees Lucifer's treachery.
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Lucifer's pathetic zealots can never catch up to Iris's meticulous SCV dancing.
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Lucifer starts his 2nd gateway - in his blindness he allows Iris's overpowering vulture to raid his natural probes, killing 2 of them.
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if iris wins snow can clean this up
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Goon range for Lucifer. As if such measly tech could face down Iris's might.
Iris starts his academy and 2nd factory. He's ready for any shenanigans his devil opponent might pull.
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A vulture checks out 11 and confirms that there's no Nexus there.
First armory for Iris, he gets his scanners as well.
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Observertech done for Lucifer Iris also has a starport in progress.
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Both players playing passively.
Iris keenly waits for the perfect time to strike. Lucifer's just a coward.
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Control tower finishes for Iris - he starts a dropship - ready to surprise his hapless opponent
Lucifer prepares to expand to 11
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rofl that must have been a game between just joined players?
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Observer sees the 2 factories with machine shops - and sees the dropship emerge no matter Lucifer can have as much foreknowledge of Iris's plans as he wants - it won't save him from his destruction.
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Iris prepares a CC in his base to take 5 he also drops an scv at 3 to prepare to expand there as well
his vultures tangle with some goons and get away scot-free
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Iris builds his 3rd and 4th factories. Lucifer doesn't know what kind of pain he's in for
His dropship arrives in Lucifer's main and drops 4 vultures - they nimbly squeeze through despite Lucifer moving his goons in response.
But Lucifer's dark tactics are able to take down the dropship before it reaches safety
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hahahaha it's so funny when the commentators go "OH! Lee Young Ho!"
edit: For those who don't know, Flash and Lucifer have the same name
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2nd armory up and running for Iris
Lucifer drops a few units to destroy Iris's prepared SCV at 3
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Iris adding another 2 factories, to 6
He snipes one of Lucifer's evil eye observers near his nat.
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Iris will be crushed by protoss big push at this rate.
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Iris pushing out - is Lucifer ready for the pain to come?
Lucifer masses a few zealots to prepare for the train of death coming his way...will it be enough?
His new nexus at 12 finishes
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Lucifer on 7? gates and 1 stargate
He drops a probe at 9 to prepare to expand there
Iris picking off observers with goli/vessel as he moves forwards
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Iris's push has reached halfway down the map
but the agent of hell has amassed a lot of units - can our hero prevail under such difficult circumstances?
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Iris in his brilliance nullifies the devil's arbiter energy and puts his opponent's plans on hold.
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Iris commands his army to continue to take ground
Lucifer preparing to expand to 1.5
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Iris manages to get his very close to Lucifer's natural - but here comes the flank!
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So many dead goons - but there's no more vultures with the remaining tanks and zealots wipe out Iris's forces
things look dire for our valiant hero!
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a train of vultures raid 12 - cannons mean nothing under such numbers, lots of probes killed but some run goons retaliate and sandwich the vultures
iris's base at 6 fully operational.
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Lucifer foolishly sends his probes as a gift to iris's vultures iris's vultures also raid 1 and kill all the cannons and probes there, though there weren't that many
Iris expanding to 7.5 as well!
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The nexus at 1.5 dies to pure vulture - how weak is the devil?
vultures return to 12 but this time 3 cannons are in their way, now 4 still the manage to find a blind spot and pick off a few probes
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an observer notices Iris's base at 7.5 - but the middle of the map is ALL Iris's yellow
Lucifer definitely on the back foot.
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Amazing how Terran has more than half the map...
even without sieging lucifer's pathetic forces must run from iris's ball of metal
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Wow I'm talking to myself...
Iris's army heads back towards Lucifer's nat - there's no resistance!
and Lucifer runs his army into mines while trying to return
4 tanks and a goli frozen!
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Goons however shut down Iris's base at 7.5 still - if Lucifer can't save his main he'll be in deep trouble.
but enough reinforcments arrive to finish off iris's push
Iris sends his scvs to 1.5?
a few die to the 2 cannons there...
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Iris's mobile vultures drive lucifer's forces against a wall near 12
brilliant attack!
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On April 20 2010 19:27 Zona wrote: Wow I'm talking to myself... Nah, you are talking to the forum
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Lucifer will quickly lose his base and all the probes there
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Iris lost two huge armies in pushes and yet is winning?
WTH?
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Iris once again moves towards Lucifer's nat, more cautiously and wisely this time
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Or not? Iris attacking 11 instead - not enough defense there to stop him!
He also sends a small force to shell 1.5 - Lucifer can't handle his tactical genius!
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The minimap sez it all - all the yellow everywhere
Lucifer tries a last ditch attempt by recalling on Iris's factories
a DT clears out the 2 tanks at 1.5 long after the nexus fell
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Lucifer oddly chooses to focus on the CC in Iris's base rather than armories, depots, or factories
Iris's small reinforcements form his factories and return are going to clean it up
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Iris sieges up Lucifer's nat.
Even the devil will fall before the Berserker's might!
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Lucifer left with 2 pathetic arbiters potshotting at the tanks
He concedes
Raped.
The berserker is victorious. As expected.
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Someone explain me how Iris won that? O.O
This was S-class macro and mine puting...
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lucifer gg's
it's so good to see iris back in winning
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Wow, Iris some how won even after losing a bunch of tanks in the first push
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On April 20 2010 19:29 SuperArc wrote: Iris lost two huge armies in pushes and yet is winning?
WTH?
Lucifer is shit, no other answer required.
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NaDa or Baby next, go go (:
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This game has to be recommended.
Iris is quite an old player too, but he played such, incredible late game. It's astonishing...
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Iris played great and Lucifer really didn't make much of an effort. Iris was on equal or had more bases then him the entire game, not to mention map control and Lucifers refusal to use recall or psi strom. GG Iris!
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On April 20 2010 19:33 SuperArc wrote: This game has to be recommended.
Iris is quite an old player too, but he played such, incredible late game. It's astonishing... Agreed. I really enjoyed that game.
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I also noticed that Iris got a very fast science facility to counter storm/stasis. I didn't look at the upgrades, but he had two fast armories too. Very tech rushing build from him.
And his constant aggression never gave Lucifer time to regroup and start an attack.
This is what I would call a win from a very experienced player.
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Replay shows lucifer forgetting to mine gas for a long time, leaving him unable to make good units at a critical moment after he won a big fight. By good units I mean the imba-Arbiters of course.
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Yeah, he used his vultures very well and didn't waste them.
Even his tanks were moved often, allowing his entire army to be a mobile force.
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snow, i guess no one believes in effort anymore
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Ah, CJ going to throw Iris's win down the drain =(
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
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maybe we'll get baby v. effort ace? preview of osl finals?
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On April 20 2010 19:42 Zona wrote: Ah, CJ going to throw Iris's win down the drain =(
Effort vs Roro would be such a tossup...
Skyhigh vs Roro = instant win for Roro...
Snow is the best option vs Roro.
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or not? Apparently Roro is horrible vP?
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Bah, I really want WeMade to win...but not with these players :/
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Snow the weather Toss at 7. Roro the rolling zerg at 11.
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On April 20 2010 19:43 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 19:42 Zona wrote: Ah, CJ going to throw Iris's win down the drain =( Effort vs Roro would be such a tossup... Skyhigh vs Roro = instant win for Roro... Snow is the best option vs Roro.
CJ probably expected baby to come, couldn't send effort against a T
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On April 20 2010 19:42 Zona wrote: Ah, CJ going to throw Iris's win down the drain =( Snow is awesome :O
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On April 20 2010 19:43 Jackal03 wrote: why no skyhigh?
because WeMade expects Skyhigh and so they'll send out a very good ZvTer vs Skyhigh's mediocre TvZ.
It was a very good 4th game decision from Coach Cho.
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Lucky for snow, he scouts Roro first, he can time his gate/forge/cannon/nexus precisely.
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Snow delays Roro's nat drone a lot, and even throws in a manner pylon.
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United States11390 Posts
On April 20 2010 19:45 Zona wrote: 12pool no gas It was overpool.
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On April 20 2010 19:45 Harem wrote:It was overpool. really? wow my sense of time is so off when I check the oven...
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On April 20 2010 19:45 LoStYouRSkiLLS wrote: Ugh what about BaBy? The coaches have no regard for FPL these days
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On April 20 2010 19:45 LoStYouRSkiLLS wrote: Ugh what about BaBy?
Probably practicing for his individual leagues so WeMade gives him some time off PL
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Careless. An OL is sniped by a goon
but 5 lings in Snow's main!
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Snow going Sair/Dt?
I don't like that. =/
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bisu build?
it didn't quite worked for movie in the msl
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wow 4 mutalisks causing so much trouble.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
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roro better not fail this
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3 hatch muta is such a strong build...
Why dont more zergs do that?
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LOL alffla, again... this time even writing pretty much the same thing
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United States11390 Posts
On April 20 2010 19:52 SuperArc wrote: 3 hatch muta is such a strong build...
Why dont more zergs do that? It was delayed 5hat mootas.
Not 3hat.
3hat muta hits a lot earlier.
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A hydra switch right now would just run Snow over in a few minutes all templar morphed to archons economy in ruins
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On April 20 2010 19:53 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 19:52 SuperArc wrote: 3 hatch muta is such a strong build...
Why dont more zergs do that? It was delayed 5hat mootas. Not 3hat. 3hat muta hits a lot earlier.
yeah, I did mean that.
No one will ever expect it.
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ah, 2 templar out and charging energy
and indeed hydra are being massed
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But there's a DT! an OL arrives to nullify that
the templar don't have energy?
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Was it that bad? Glad I missed that one... :O
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mutas pick off the templar...lol it's over
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snow got raped
terrible play
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it's bad if you cheer for toss lol
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On April 20 2010 19:55 DoX.) wrote: T.T Ahh no Nada
no nada, no baby, no effort, no skyhigh
sigh
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On April 20 2010 19:52 7mk wrote:LOL alffla, again... this time even writing pretty much the same thing 
loool stop following me
omg snow played like he doesnt know how to pvz or something >_>
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god, being a CJ fan is so exhausting
edit: oh my it just doesnt stop alffla well I gotta go now though ^^
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Glad to see Midas performing well.
Only one terran in the Wemade lineup though and they still won, I was surprised. Expected them not to play Baby though, he’s got several important matches coming up, and he’s been playing a lot .
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Why is everyone criticing Snow?
This build has put Stork off guard, Bisu, hell even Movie vs great.
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Wtf with never sending pure ! Think about my fpl kthx weMade? Gz though !
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On April 20 2010 19:56 Nouar wrote: Wtf with never sending pure ! Think about my fpl kthx weMade? Gz though ! With so many backbone players on other teams doing poorly, WeMade might even be able to lay claim to having the deepest useful team in the current round.
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Effort still tired after THOSE games.
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I humbly request that OPs will contain the real names of the players who actually played, instead of having me click the names to find out.
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On April 20 2010 20:00 Hittegods wrote: I humbly request that OPs will contain the real names of the players who actually played, instead of having me click the names to find out.
no
open lineups if you need names quickly
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0/2 LB today
awful
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On April 20 2010 19:56 SuperArc wrote: Why is everyone criticing Snow?
This build has put Stork off guard, Bisu, hell even Movie vs great.
i only critize snow because he played very bad, poor decision making
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On April 20 2010 20:04 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 20:00 Hittegods wrote: I humbly request that OPs will contain the real names of the players who actually played, instead of having me click the names to find out. no open lineups if you need names quickly Didn't realize it was hilarious. There must be something wrong with me.
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update results with proper names ffs
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Why does everyone have to try and be cute with the results and make it hard to understand?
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Ugh, why not just put proper results :/
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It's exceptionally annoying having to click the TLPD to figure out who the hell the OP's trying to write about.
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It's not like someone will make a second OP You have the only OP for this match so make it right. People aren't being unreasonable in asking results to be properly named. Even if you do have a line up tab...
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Whats wrong with the results. I always thought the regular names of the players were ok. Why do you have to make up new ones? Its annoying as hell to check TLPD just to know who was playing.
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I have got to get RorO off my anti-team
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I see someone abusing their powers as OP...
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i agree with all the posts above me, please put regular names in the OP
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Yup, it confused me having "Typhoon Zerg" and "3m4m5m6m7m gg" as different people
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I will join complainers here. These names don't even make any sense and it is super annoying to find out who is who. I just clicked to check results quickly and instead of that I have sepnt more time than I should figuring it out.
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Man.. i LOVED zona's live-reporting. Awesome dude
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Midas was the best choice ever for my FPL 13 points so far for a 2 point investment.
But no BaBy kinda makes me sad. Also, LOL at the 524 people who still have Roro on their anti.
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god damn why is every single other op allowed to make up names
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Is anyone going to translate the interview? I want to see if they ask Midas about his recent improved performance.
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Wow CJ didn't send up skyhigh AND effort... quite surprising
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Snow is the opposite of Movie, he's good at PvT and PvP but sucks at PvZ.
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damn son. FOX tearing shit up poor CJ is still slumping
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Sad that CJ lost but dammm Midas is performing well. If only Savior could do the same thing....
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On April 21 2010 05:46 FireGuyX wrote: Snow is the opposite of Movie, he's good at PvT and PvP but sucks at PvZ.
No he has pretty good PvZ, watch the games against HyuN and by.hero, his worst matchup is PvP despite the win vs Kal.
he's also undefeated against up-and-comer Neo.G_Soulkey, but none of those games were televised.
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