EPT[MSL] Ro16 Day 1 - HanaBank MSL 2010
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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o[twist]
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LittLeLives
United States692 Posts
 Anyways, it looks like roffles is streaming it tonight/this morning. | ||
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Noxide
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GTR
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GTR
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29 fps
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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saritenite
Singapore1680 Posts
GO JUNG MYUNG HOON! Beat this zerg to a pulp | ||
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29 fps
United States5723 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
Mvp is purple | ||
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
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29 fps
United States5723 Posts
purple is MVP | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13021 Posts
 BaBy > MVP (both are showing some good results lately but i think BaBy will take it) Calm <> fantasy ( both suck so its coinflip here... giving small advantage to Calm because fantasy has been doing that denchanic build all the time and fails miserably ) Shuttle > HiyA ( Giving Shuttle the edge here but HiyA is preety good too )Hydra < Jaedong ( Jaedong will win unless he 12 hatch and lose horibly ) | ||
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
BaBy > MVPCalm < fantasyShuttle < HiyAAnd PLZZ Hydra < Jaedong! | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
Perhaps MVP should consider this... | ||
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13021 Posts
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Zona
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Zona
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Zona
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
but MVP only mining gas from 12 right now. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Baby already using some scvs as chaff as he attacks towards 12 - so many tanks! | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
 so lame. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
a drop right of MVP's main - MVP Doesn't have enough units at home! | ||
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
But Baby is wayyy ahead | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
MVP like 5 minutes ago started more than 2 armories and had his physics lab lots of damage to Baby's base at 6 but Baby counters with a drop at 12 that dominates the place and kills all the scvs! Still should be Baby's game if he pumps goliaths | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Baby attacking towards 9 again! | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
some BC's getting repaired - MVP's BC force starting to get bigger...will it reach critical mass? | ||
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
Very good match so far | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
but Baby's economic advantage is still pretty large | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
MVP's forward/split tanks are overrun and the BC's flee from the CLOUD of golaiths | ||
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BookTwo
1985 Posts
On April 15 2010 18:39 sArite_nite wrote: calm vs fantasy rematch YAHHHH GO JUNG MYUNG HOON! Beat this zerg to a pulp couldn't have said it better myself. | ||
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
especially since Baby has re-taken 6, although MVP is attacking it now | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
But yeah that'd be pretty imba MVP has a CC ready to take 6 - I don't think it'll work for long, though | ||
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
BaBy overinvesting in Goliaths | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Tanks totally destroy every scv in the maynard towards 6 | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Baby attacking towards 6 - the <10 BCs MVP has isn't enough! | ||
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29 fps
United States5723 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
MVP takes out 3 tanks at the bottom expo | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
But the lingering goliaths bring the floating CC to red! | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
snipes CC tho/i think it will burn down. yea it does | ||
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
MVP CC burns down, no SCVs i sight | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Baby attacks towards 9 and forces it to lift yet another time | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Baby also cleans up 11 with pure tank | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:12 Zona wrote: Baby with clear advantage, but still this game could take a long time to conclude... I'm not so sure about that. 6 has more minerals than 12, and both are out of their banks. | ||
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
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moopie
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Zona
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
MVP risks sending out his BCs unescorted - he doesn't know that mines see them but he pulls back Hmm, perhaps Baby is hurting for resources - he does grab the scraps left at 11. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Nice - 3 vultures from MVP really whittle down Baby's scvs at 11 | ||
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SOB_Maj_Brian
United States522 Posts
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monk
United States8476 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
I still think Baby should probe MVP's natural - and the bonus is that reinforcements are cut off unless MVP invests in a dropship | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13021 Posts
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
Flash vs firebathero | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Baby flying 5 dropships around - what's he planning? | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Baby's ground army is still substantial...is he finally going to attack? | ||
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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cokencheese
Philippines748 Posts
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
if only baby can play ballsy stuff like Flash, this would be over. | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
As the audience snoozes... MVP only producing BC's out of 2 starports even though he has 3 | ||
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29 fps
United States5723 Posts
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:19 cokencheese wrote: What's stopping Baby from just running MVP over? Those BCs don't look so scary to me anymore. mvp has a wall of tanks, that stops baby from a moving his army (mostly goliaths). dropships wont do either due to BCs. | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
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monk
United States8476 Posts
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SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
MVP gaining ground - perhaps he wants to use the ridge as cover to yamoto | ||
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Xeln4g4
Italy1208 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
MVP wants to set up a location he can safely yamoto from Baby just lazily moving his army back and forth | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
MVP on lowground | ||
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moopie
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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Zona
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Zona
40426 Posts
even the live audience really bored... | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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cokencheese
Philippines748 Posts
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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lgd-haze
Sweden547 Posts
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29 fps
United States5723 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Baby with some cute scv drop action causes MVP to splash his own tanks a little | ||
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moopie
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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Aesop
Hungary11269 Posts
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
near infinite yamato gun wins. no way to lose unless all Goliaths can volley safely. how hard is it to scan for goliaths and yamato gun one by one? surely 11 bc can stand up with 20 goliaths after yamatos guns. | ||
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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Ryo
8787 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
VULTURES CATCHES SIGHT OF SCV | ||
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:25 sashkata wrote: Baby doesn't have any gas. MVP might win. iirc there is one non-depleted refinery that baby isn't mining from | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:26 Plexa wrote: If baby just stays away this game should be a draw Unlimited yamato though? | ||
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GTR
51397 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:26 Plexa wrote: If baby just stays away this game should be a draw ? theoretically mvp wins since he has 'infinite' yamato | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:27 GTR wrote: ? theoretically mvp wins since he has 'infinite' yamato Yea, but he needs to get close enough to use it. If he's on the main land goliaths can cause a lot of (irrepairable) damage | ||
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
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monk
United States8476 Posts
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
if he loses anymore tanks he can just get overwhelmed | ||
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:28 Jakalo wrote: Going for scanners, maybe cloaced wraith? Can't do wraiths with money issues. It's so the tanks run into mines. | ||
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moopie
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:28 below66 wrote: what considers it a draw? a certain amount of time? When neither play can't or won't attack anymore. There is no official time limit. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:28 Nytefish wrote: MVP why would you reverse all the progress you made and send all your units back to your main... Can't leave his main to get taken out. | ||
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monk
United States8476 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Baby attacking MVP's nat though (finally) - but backs off quickly risky scanless mineclearing by MVP | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
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monk
United States8476 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
MVP, cant scna and yamato stray units | ||
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
One bc is sniped | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
bad trade though - lost a bc for one goliath yamoto | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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SOB_Maj_Brian
United States522 Posts
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
I'm talking about when he was attacked by vultures and ran his CC out to the middle. | ||
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
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GTR
51397 Posts
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29 fps
United States5723 Posts
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
This should be good!! | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Baby lifts all his buildings and attacks MVP"s base | ||
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29 fps
United States5723 Posts
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Plaaguu
United States406 Posts
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
AMAZING MINES | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
100000 tanks sniped | ||
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SOB_Maj_Brian
United States522 Posts
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
OH MY FUCKING GOD 5 TANKS DIE TO A MINE | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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GTR
51397 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4719 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
but I think MVP only has only one or two factories while Baby has plenty | ||
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29 fps
United States5723 Posts
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lavion
Singapore286 Posts
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
MVP now can find a highground, float his buildings there, relax and hope for draw. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:33 Plexa wrote: it's times like this where "... is being revealed" would totally fuck this game up +1 | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
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29 fps
United States5723 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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SOB_Maj_Brian
United States522 Posts
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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moopie
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
actually MVP should try hunting buildings rather than trying to confront... | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
okay he did it. | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
MVP seriously should be yamatoing gols | ||
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Ota Solgryn
Denmark2011 Posts
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Ryo
8787 Posts
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Baby using a red floating CC to take a peek at MVP's position Baby has reclined his chair... | ||
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
Amazing!! | ||
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cokencheese
Philippines748 Posts
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29 fps
United States5723 Posts
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
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BookTwo
1985 Posts
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:36 Chen wrote: i think baby lost dammit =( But unless MVP actually attempts to take the goliaths out, the referee's gonna call a draw. | ||
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SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
Baby can't move his army because of the guarded choke and BCs guarding the ridge, MVP can't engage Goliaths on open ground. | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
he should win by attrition, if he plays smart | ||
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epi
Canada115 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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29 fps
United States5723 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13021 Posts
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:37 PoP wrote: But unless MVP actually attempts to take the goliaths out, the referee's gonna call a draw. With that said, MVP can kill all of Baby's buildings - yamtoing any that baby tried to protect | ||
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lavion
Singapore286 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
BaBy will be forced to come out eventually, Stray BC killing his base and no buildings at his army | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:38 sashkata wrote: Yeah, MVP can't attack. It should be a draw. He doesn't need to attack, he can take out the remaining buildings | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
The onus is on Baby to attack | ||
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Pinnacle55
Singapore173 Posts
[MSL] Not Dead Yet I open my livestream and find that it is true. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13021 Posts
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:38 sashkata wrote: Yeah, MVP can't attack. It should be a draw. No, beacuse he can eliminate BaBy without attacking | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
then use tank and walls to push in goliaths. | ||
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29 fps
United States5723 Posts
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:38 Plexa wrote: With that said, MVP can kill all of Baby's buildings - yamtoing any that baby tried to protect Yeah, seriously what was Baby thinking sending his WHOLE army cleaning the last buildings bottom left? It was so obvious MVP wanted that to happen. -_- | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:37 Jackal03 wrote: mvp will just keep waiting and recharging his energy he should win by attrition, if he plays smart Yep and all his has to do is to snipe one of Baby's gols once in a while for the ref not to declare it a draw | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Baby gets sick of things and attacks! | ||
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Baby a-moves - he loses tons of tanks | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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29 fps
United States5723 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
MVP GOT THIS | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
the floating factory ate lots of hits Baby concedes MVP is so happy! | ||
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
woongjin terrans #1 <3 | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
wow, what a fucking long game | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
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SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
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Emon_
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radadaundandan
Bulgaria3148 Posts
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
BaBy should have switched to BCs when he had the advantage. | ||
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:40 Katsuge wrote: baby's had enough and just suicides :/ He had no choice. He had no buildings there. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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GTR
51397 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:40 Plexa wrote: that was really dumb of baby yeh he had the game shift into his favor when mvp lost those tanks | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
FINALLY Fantasy vs Calm Please don't get raped Fantasy...I really want to be your fan. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
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albis
United States652 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:40 radadaundandan wrote: Well done baby. I respect you for that move. exactly. someone had to end it (or it would eventually be called, or 3 hours of yamatos). | ||
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chongu
Malaysia2584 Posts
BaBy...![[image loading]](http://i43.tinypic.com/xbfxom.jpg) edit: just have to say that there were some epic moments in there - scv dodging yamoto and mine killing 7 tanks | ||
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:41 GTR wrote: yeh he had the game shift into his favor when mvp lost those tanks yup, and then he trapped himself | ||
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
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SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:41 tyCe wrote: BaBy could have just floated his buildings in the corner where his army was. Clump up those goliaths away from the cliffs and it's a stalemate pretty much.. He didn't have any floatable buildings left (I think). And there's no way he could have floated one from top right anyway lol. | ||
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
or, with his economic advantage, could have matched the BC's coach fiddles with MVP's hair, he's still smiling. Baby stone-faced. He lost a game where he had a good advantage. Perhaps his quick rise hasn't given him the experience of such TvT's | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:42 PoP wrote: He didn't have any floating buildings left (I think). And there's no way he could have floated one from top right anyway lol. he had a CC, rax and 4-5 facts left. | ||
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Marine50
Australia1764 Posts
that guy shakin his head was so good. He should of face palmed himself and it would of summed up the situation spot on | ||
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Malinor
Germany4719 Posts
I really enjoyed that game though. | ||
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Alak
Sweden380 Posts
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
Yeah, but he should've floated them in advance. They weren't going to make it there in that situation. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:43 Alak wrote: MVP has no potential, will never amount to anything noteworthy and still persists in pretending he will by reaching the Ro16. If he enters into the Ro8 by the luck of draw (facing a relatively inexperienced Baby) there will be hell to pay. Gah! Yeah I can't stand MVP either. | ||
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Zona
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but that might have freed his army from 7...who knows but if he did that the game probably would take another 20 minutes | ||
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 There is a lot of "shoulds". | ||
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On April 15 2010 19:41 moopie wrote: exactly. someone had to end it (or it would eventually be called, or 3 hours of yamatos). For what? He failed to save any of his buildings and managed to get trapped after MVP lost 6 tanks to a mine.Not to mentions all the other stuff he should have done when he had the advantage. That said I still like BaBy, and love this game ^^ | ||
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:42 PoP wrote: He didn't have any floatable buildings left (I think). And there's no way he could have floated one from top right anyway lol. No he did have buildings, MVP realised this and had a BC patrolling the area where the buildings would fly in from | ||
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All those buildings were floating above a big line of turrets. Better to leave them there rather than float them all the way across the map with the risk of them getting scouted by a spider mine or something. | ||
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On April 15 2010 19:42 PoP wrote: He didn't have any floatable buildings left (I think). And there's no way he could have floated one from top right anyway lol. he still had some factorys in his main, floating above some turrets baby's bad move was when he got cornered in mvp main, there was no way he could win once he got trapped | ||
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On April 15 2010 19:45 Jackal03 wrote: he still had some factorys in his main, floating above some turrets baby's bad move was when he got cornered in mvp main, there was no way he could win once he got trapped Yeah Baby was in a tough spot though - he couldn't just send a few units to kill MVP's main because BCs would just Yamato them all. But if he sends his whole army (like he did) then he gets trapped. Not really sure what else he could have done other than just posture around the map and hope for MVP to screw up (with 20/20 hindsight, this looks like it would have been the best move). There was simply no way Baby was going to be able to eliminate MVP that game (short of MVP giving away a bunch of units). | ||
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France15446 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:45 Jackal03 wrote: he still had some factorys in his main, floating above some turrets baby's bad move was when he got cornered in mvp main, there was no way he could win once he got trapped What's really really weird is that Baby actually pulled back before completely cleaning bottom left, as he if was aware of the risk of getting trapped. Yet 2 minutes later he sent them back there and MVP moved his tanks forward, sieged the choke and that was it. | ||
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Zona
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In his quick rise to prominence, though, he still lacks experience to some degree, and not knowing how to play out a super late game TvT like this one is one of his minor shortcomings. He dominated everything up until the BC transition. | ||
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Netherlands1958 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:46 Polis wrote: I had just watch near the ending, so what had stopped baby to just send 5 goliath to kill that BC, mines? It would be trapped between goliaths and turrets. All of his goliaths were being contained by MVP's army | ||
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On April 15 2010 19:43 Jakalo wrote: For what? He failed to save any of his buildings and managed to get trapped after MVP lost 6 tanks to a mine.Not to mentions all the other stuff he should have done when he had the advantage. That said I still like BaBy, and love this game ^^He had a bunch of facts left (and 1 CC). MVP had no scans, and his BC's did not patrol towards the bottom). Even if they did, he could bring in 2 buildings from the bottom right, 2 from the left, and 1-2 diagonally. He would have gotten 1 to the bottom left corner, set his tanks and goliaths in front (though away from the cliffs), and sat it out for another hour while yamato recharged (or the match would be called as a draw). Enough is enough. He can still take the other 2. | ||
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Zona
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One vessel would have helped a ton for scouting, dmatrix with yamoto, or emp And Baby really could have used just one cloaked wraith, as others have said. | ||
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New Zealand846 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:48 Ikonn wrote: All of his goliaths were being contained by MVP's army + MVP resorted to killing shuttles on sight. | ||
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On April 15 2010 19:48 Ikonn wrote: All of his goliaths were being contained by MVP's army His siege tanks should have been in the front, not in the back of the goliaths. | ||
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On April 15 2010 19:47 darktreb wrote: Yeah Baby was in a tough spot though - he couldn't just send a few units to kill MVP's main because BCs would just Yamato them all. But if he sends his whole army (like he did) then he gets trapped. Not really sure what else he could have done other than just posture around the map and hope for MVP to screw up (with 20/20 hindsight, this looks like it would have been the best move). There was simply no way Baby was going to be able to eliminate MVP that game (short of MVP giving away a bunch of units). He could have moved back into his base, and sat around (like MVP was doing with his for a long time). | ||
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United States143 Posts
![[image loading]](http://blog.wfgame.com/attachment/201004/15/11856_1271328628dgem.jpg) Poor BaBy | ||
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Zona
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On April 15 2010 19:49 moopie wrote: He had a bunch of facts left (and 1 CC). MVP had no scans, and his BC's did not patrol towards the bottom). Even if they did, he could bring in 2 buildings from the bottom right, 2 from the left, and 1-2 diagonally. He would have gotten 1 to the bottom left corner, set his tanks and goliaths in front (though away from the cliffs), and sat it out for another hour while yamato recharged (or the match would be called as a draw). Enough is enough. He can still take the other 2. Yeah, I was thinking that too - but that would've extended the game another 15 minutes at least... | ||
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Jackal03
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On April 15 2010 19:47 darktreb wrote: Yeah Baby was in a tough spot though - he couldn't just send a few units to kill MVP's main because BCs would just Yamato them all. But if he sends his whole army (like he did) then he gets trapped. Not really sure what else he could have done other than just posture around the map and hope for MVP to screw up (with 20/20 hindsight, this looks like it would have been the best move). There was simply no way Baby was going to be able to eliminate MVP that game (short of MVP giving away a bunch of units). he could try to send a bait unit to destroy mvp main while catching the BCs in transit to get the bait still, not sure this would work, though spot for him | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
never mind, he just took a nervous deep breath. Please don't fail, Fantasy. Pretty please! | ||
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
Calm is ranked 3 Fantasy is ranked 9 | ||
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Zona
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But I don't think it's true, the way Fantasy has been playing. | ||
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fallingdream
Romania452 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:49 FireGuyX wrote: His siege tanks should have been in the front, not in the back of the goliaths. In that case MVP would have used yamato on siege tanks, and then he would have just pushed with his tanks building to soak some dmg and bc's. | ||
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United States4549 Posts
fantasy: vs ALL 17-14 - 54.8%; 5-4 vs. Z 55.6; kespa ranking 9th; last 10 - 5-5 | ||
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Zona
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mediocrity is the name of the game | ||
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On April 15 2010 19:50 wfoperational wrote: Poor BaBy Ahh, now I feel so bad for cheering against him =/ | ||
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:50 Jackal03 wrote: he could try to send a bait unit to destroy mvp main while catching the BCs in transit to get the bait still, not sure this would work, though spot for him He royally fucked up when he unsieged his tanks after hitting the buildings and move into the tank line and got raped. He should have pulled back and then rinsed and repeated to kill the bcs | ||
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Zona
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Fantasy pushes up his glasses...can he take revenge? | ||
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fantasy: 7 | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:53 s.Q.uelched wrote: If Baby played with even more patience and used his brain There's no way he could have lost considering his progamer speed/control. MVP is pretty fast himself. If I recall, he's known for having incredibly high APM. He's also a progamer... | ||
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Zona
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Calm the beige Zerg at 1. | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:51 Chen wrote: 1 wraith+cloak woulda won the game for Baby =( The only way Baby could have won that game is if he destroyed most of MVP's main earlier when he had the macro advantage, and he was at that point too but Baby didn't scout the battlecruisers until it was too late. | ||
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Zona
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Fantasy's SCV arrives 2 larvae were saved for lings? | ||
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United States11390 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:55 Zona wrote: 12pool? curious Yeah, it was. May as well try to end the game early with muta harass rather than have to deal with lategame vs terran on this map. | ||
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Netherlands4817 Posts
On April 15 2010 19:54 Roffles wrote: MVP is pretty fast himself. If I recall, he's known for having incredibly high APM. He's also a progamer... Hence and used his brain Go Calm! | ||
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On April 15 2010 19:55 boesthius wrote: all the games are on match point tonight :o I know - I was just lamenting the fact 1 rax CC for Fantasy depot and bunker at his nat | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
2nd rax already for fantasy | ||
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SkelA
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edit : 2 hatch lurk :D | ||
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Harem
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That explains the zergling numbers + speed. | ||
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Zona
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Den first for Calm... Well Fantasy's mnm micro vs lurker was pretty terrible last game... | ||
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
And Lunkers for Calm | ||
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Zona
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Calm expands to 3 AND sends a drone to 5 | ||
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Zona
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Calm adds a spire - Calm with his double expo after lair is going to be a ton ahead soon if Fantasy doesn't deal with it | ||
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Hot_Bid
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and fantasy refuses to move out this is awesome INVISIBLE STOP LURKER > FANTASY | ||
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Zona
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starts rine range. Calm starts his first evo chamber Fantasy staying in his base adding turrets to his nat Does calm only have his 6 lings? fantasy moving out with a very small group of mnmnf | ||
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On April 15 2010 20:00 Hot_Bid wrote: looooooool calm has had nothing but 6 speedlings and its the 7 minute mark rofl and fantasy refuses to move out this is awesome INVISIBLE STOP LURKER > FANTASY yeh calm's psychologically fucking fantasy over | ||
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Zona
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adding a creep at 5 as Fantasy moves that way Calm's going to lose that base | ||
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At last Fantasy spots the 4th base | ||
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or rather thats clam!?! | ||
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Zona
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Fantasy adding 2 rax Calm still on 3 bases though but only 2 gas, pretty good shape Calm prepares to expand to 12? | ||
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moopie
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On April 15 2010 20:02 integral wrote: QUICK -- someone explain calm's build! fake all-in to cause fantasy to bunker up while you take 4 bases. | ||
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Zona
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rather than spring a stop lurker trap. Fantasy's scv spots the morphing hatchery at 12 | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:03 moopie wrote: fake all-in to cause fantasy to bunker up while you take 4 bases. what about the part where he lets his fourth die? | ||
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Caos2
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Fantasy with Mech? LOL! STX, STX, STX! | ||
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moopie
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On April 15 2010 20:03 integral wrote: what about the part where he lets his fourth die? calm got too greedy and fantasy found his inner oov | ||
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Zona
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Fantasy's getting his vessel and siege tech soon Calm will have defilers real soon | ||
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GONNA BREAK FORTIFIED FRON SUCCEDS BUT LOSES MOST OF HIS ARMY | ||
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On April 15 2010 20:05 integral wrote: was that a success? I can't tell I would say so. he took out a lot of m&m and the bunkers (and a vessel), forcing fantasy to remain contained and not being able to expo and take map control. | ||
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Zona
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Calm now comfortably on 3 gasses swarm/ling attack towards Fantasy's nat but despite fantasy's lack of units, Calm doesn't keep his army together and loses most of it | ||
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Zona
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Clam suicides so much lurkerling to the ramp by moving and not burrowing... | ||
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prosatan
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VESELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL , DARK SWARRRRRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMM | ||
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Yeah, calm probably ahead now - his base at 5 re-established and he's about to take 11 | ||
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New Zealand846 Posts
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Zona
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is his macro slipping? | ||
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Zona
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Even if fantasy kills a base, Fantasy's still behind Calm's not microing that well...but it doesn't matter | ||
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Zona
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sigh... | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
He's a pure mech player. | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
at least he kills Calm's 6th, but loses 1/2 his M&M | ||
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On April 15 2010 20:10 Waxangel wrote: man the announcer was so cruel, he said that lady in the audience looks like qoo)max AHHAHAAHA OMG that's actually pretty accurate ;o | ||
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lurkerling moves towards 9 witha defiler! | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:11 Chen wrote: Fantasy loses his tanks to lings, this game is over Has been over for a while. Once again not even sure where it went wrong. Thought Fantasy was in decent shape after killing the 5 o'clock | ||
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ultras are out! 2 lurkers burrowed north of 6 to protect that spot Fantasy with great sense has his mnm behind his tanks, allowing his tanks to die to lings... | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
ultras out with no tanks, Calm just playing with him now | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
edit; nvm I must have missed ultras | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:13 Plexa wrote: calm has a shockingly low drone count o.O but insanely good macro | ||
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On April 15 2010 20:13 Zona wrote: If Calm wasn't throwing his units away the way he is, he could've ended this a lot earlier... he still has 12 cows lol. and he just overran Fantasy's nat, killing 2 more tanks in process | ||
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Weak - I shouldn't bother setting aside time to watch Fantasy play vs zerg anymore | ||
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Calm | ||
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Zona
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On April 15 2010 20:14 Chen wrote: he still has 12 cows lol. and he just overran Fantasy's nat, killing 2 more tanks in process I never said he was losing... just that the way he threw his units at fantasy's positions were a real waste. | ||
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kyzers0ze
Singapore1073 Posts
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
Once the lurkers were out fantasy was on the back foot the entire game, and Calm just expoed away. And now, time to see if Shuttle really has improved his PvT. | ||
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Braavos36374 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:16 StylishVODs wrote: That was really bad from Fantasy, specially after taking out calms third pretty quick. I think Calm was still marginally ahead after losing that 3rd gas, he had early hive, plenty of hatcheries, and a big enough eco to afford such a loss. He also barely lost any drones at that expo. | ||
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InDaHouse
Sweden956 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:16 Zona wrote: I never said he was losing... just that the way he threw his units at fantasy's positions were a real waste. Yes, but if you look at how many hatches Calm had you realize had could do it many times and still win, Calm was way ahead when he smacked Fantasys nat with lings/lurkers. He just needed to macro. | ||
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United States1728 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:10 Zona wrote: Fantasy's losing to a <50% ZvT'er sigh... Nop, Fantasy is losing to a 35.71% ZvT (in 2010). + Show Spoiler + Before yesterday's match Calm's ZvT in 2010 was 30.77%, so Fantasy lost to that abysmal score two days in a row. Ah! Forgot what I just posted, Calm faced Flash SIX times in 2010 and we all know what that means PS: Was that Rainbow? Before the boy bands? | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:17 hitthat wrote: Too much marine wasting, but much better than yesterday. and not enough medics. | ||
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On April 15 2010 20:18 Hot_Bid wrote: I think Calm was still marginally ahead after losing that 3rd gas, he had early hive, plenty of hatcheries, and a big enough eco to afford such a loss. He also barely lost any drones at that expo. I also think he came out ahead, even after losing that base. Fantasy's overly defensive stance allowed calm to expo to 4 base (3 gas) with an army of no more than a handful of lings. his econ was great. The first attack on the nat (with all the lurkers) was also worth the tradeoff, since it wiped out fantasy's forces and forced him to turtle again. Very greedy build, but it was entertaining. | ||
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And since Calm was basically pumping pure drone all that time, his economy was wicked strong compared to normal games at that timing. | ||
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:19 Caos2 wrote: Nop, Fantasy is losing to a 35.71% ZvT (in 2010). + Show Spoiler + Before yesterday's match Calm's ZvT in 2010 was 30.77%, so Fantasy lost to that abysmal score two days in a row. Ah! Forgot what I just posted, Calm faced Flash SIX times in 2010 and we all know what that means PS: Was that Rainbow? Before the boy bands? The thing is fantasy is not a much better TvZer | ||
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InDaHouse
Sweden956 Posts
Fantasy creative TvZ is good. | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
Calm's ZvT>>>>Fantasy's TvZ. | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:21 InDaHouse wrote: Fantasy standard TvZ is cringe-worthy Fantasy creative TvZ is occasionally good. FYP =[ | ||
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40426 Posts
That seems to be the conclusion borne out by this week's results. Fantasy's creative TvZ...probably overrated. One thing I really think was a tremendously bad idea was confirming in an interview that he was going to try his funky valkyrie/whatever build against Calm in the OSL. Gave Calm the heads up to plan something that would counter it. | ||
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Netherlands2744 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:15 anch wrote: fantasy, just like his alias, a fantasy chance of winning. thirsday friday saturday mazeltov! latin girl mexican girl! | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Hiya's TvP should be...interesting...to watch. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:18 Hot_Bid wrote: I think Calm was still marginally ahead after losing that 3rd gas, he had early hive, plenty of hatcheries, and a big enough eco to afford such a loss. He also barely lost any drones at that expo. I tuned in when he killed it, didn't pay too much attention to the start, so I might be abit off... looked like calm had opened something like 2hatch into dual exp for mass eco. Even so, it's standard for Z to try for damage after 3rd gas is taken out and fanta should have forseen it, and prevented it better. His micro wasn't very clean... | ||
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but he never upset, ever. Off-topic: Is there a thread Where I can bash all these Korean boy bands? 'cause they can't even get the grammar in the English words right. | ||
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United States4549 Posts
shuttle - 1 | ||
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Singapore1073 Posts
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GTR
51397 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:26 Zona wrote: Hmm, horrible PvT vs above average TvP... shuttle is the most underrated progamer today | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:26 Zona wrote: Hmm, horrible PvT vs above average TvP... Shuttle is next to Movie Protoss' last hope to achieve anything. And Hiya is one of the best TvPers in the SC scene. | ||
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On April 15 2010 20:26 Lann555 wrote: Fuck this. Fantasy will come back and destroy Calm in the next two games with some crazy-ass shit. I gotte believe oov better work extra hard on those builds. | ||
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On April 15 2010 20:25 Caos2 wrote: Although the statistics don't agree very much with me I Just can't rank fantasy in the same level with the other A-Class progamers. Yeah, he was a silver medalist in two OSL in a row and he beat Jaedong more than once in last year's Proleague finals but he to lose to EVERYONE that is slightly better than him overall since then. Don't read me wrong, he can mop lower skilled gamers all day long but he never upset, ever. Off-topic: Is there a thread Where I can bash all these Korean boy bands? 'cause they can't even get the grammar in the English words right. I somewhat disagree. Just looking over fantasy's last bunch of games, he beat: Kwanro, Mind, Free x2, Pure x2, Shine and Really. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:26 Lann555 wrote: Fuck this. Fantasy will come back and destroy Calm in the next two games with some crazy-ass shit. I gotte believe I hope so to, but the way he plays now it just seems calm is the better player. Fantasys mechanics and micro isn't up to par:/ it'll be tough. But then again I'd rather watch calm vs flash than fanta vs flash in the future so more zergs win good for me hehe | ||
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Zona
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But I believe in Shuttle too. I've already mentioned that he's the bright spot in my super poor FPL so far. Hiya still hasn't expanded... | ||
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Caos2
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Hiya is 1-3 in Match Point in the same MU, one win over Kal (all of Hiya's TvP in 2010 were in this same map). I call Shuttle On April 15 2010 20:25 Navane wrote: thirsday friday saturday mazeltov! latin girl mexican girl! Gotta correct you, it said "Maxican" girl in the lyrics, whatever that means | ||
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Zona
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
reaver for shuttle | ||
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SuperArc
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Harem
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On April 15 2010 20:31 SuperArc wrote: Hiya went for siege expand I think and Shuttle goes for reaver! :o Hiya opened FD. | ||
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Zona
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He's got a reaver on the way though. Hiya's ebay half done. | ||
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moopie
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Lann555
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On April 15 2010 20:29 StylishVODs wrote: I hope so to, but the way he plays now it just seems calm is the better player. Fantasys mechanics and micro isn't up to par:/ it'll be tough. But then again I'd rather watch calm vs flash than fanta vs flash in the future so more zergs win good for me hehe I know, but gotte talk up my favorite player even when things aren't going great. I think the whole atmosphere in SKT right now must be pretty bad and it's probably affecting Fantasy's performace. Best has become pretty irrelevant and Bisu is not even proleague material anymore. The team went from one of the top contenders to bottom of the heap basically and all of a sudden Fantasy has to carry the team. | ||
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Zona
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2nd gate for Shuttle. Reaver is loaded into the shuttle! | ||
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Smix
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Caos2
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On April 15 2010 20:29 Lann555 wrote: I somewhat disagree. Just looking over fantasy's last bunch of games, he beat: Kwanro, Mind, Free x2, Pure x2, Shine and Really. Well, I expect Fantasy to win over all of those players (maybe with the exception of Kwanro), but I just can't liquibet Fantasy over Calm, Kal, Flash, Jaedong, Stork, Sea, Leta, etc. | ||
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Zona
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Reaver's dropped - takes a siege hit while its scarab doesn't hit | ||
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Smix
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Harem
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On April 15 2010 20:32 Zona wrote: No vultures, so not FD. 2nd gate for Shuttle. Reaver is loaded into the shuttle! ?? He had vultures lay mines. That's even how he saw the shuttle coming. | ||
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Zona
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wow Hiya's mouth is pretty wide open - wider than usual when he mouthbreathes. Hiya moving out with his army! | ||
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Smix
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nexus about to blow up | ||
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Zona
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shuttle's nat nexus falls | ||
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khersai
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Shuttle playin like shit | ||
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Lann555
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
He had done enough damage. | ||
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Smix
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Zona
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finally the attack is cleared out, but Hiya already starting his 3rd CC at his nat | ||
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Zona
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Vultures mine the path to 12 - Shuttle won't be able to take the spot without Hiya knowing. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
It's like he has a sixth sense in that matchup. | ||
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Zona
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Xeln4g4
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On April 15 2010 20:36 Smix wrote: lol after shuttle's shuttle died, commentators: his ID is shuttle!!!! T_T comment of the day! | ||
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moopie
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SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:37 moopie wrote: shuttle with the unluckiest scarabs ever this game. you clearly have never seen CJ tosses play. | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:36 Xeln4g4 wrote: Was it my impression or this was one of the sloppiest defense in PvT seen in a while? For the first time in history i can say: "i could have defende better than that!" Yeah, he completely forgot about his shuttle and timed his flank about as bad as possible. This game is completely over unless Hiya makes some horrible mistake | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Shuttle on 4 gates now, has a citadel | ||
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:37 SuperArc wrote: Hiya's TvP timings are really insane. It's like he has a sixth sense in that matchup. That had nothing to do with Hiya's TvP. Every Terran and their mother does that kind of minipush with a few tanks and vults to abuse the low ground outside the nat. Shuttle just played terribly. | ||
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Zona
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Hiya adding another 4 factories to his 4 Reaver drop on the nat nets a few kills | ||
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SplashbackFerret
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Zona
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he's taking his 4th at 5 - and 2 of Hiya's vultures scout it | ||
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Katsuge
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moopie
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infinity2k9
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Zona
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and he runs his probes before the vultures arrive at 5 | ||
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integral
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Smix
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Zona
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SuperArc
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moopie
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Zona
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a giant hole in shuttle's defense allows hiya to drive a few vultures right into his main | ||
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Xxio
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Especially if he loses his 4th again. | ||
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Gregsen
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
Meh, he's going to get rolled. | ||
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Lann555
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integral
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Zona
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Caos2
United States1728 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:42 SuperArc wrote: Why do protoss two big hopes Movie and Shuttle have such horrible PvT? =/ Even though they are the only good Protoss from that broke out in the last two years, I can still see Stork or Kal winning a Starleague. ... [biased] Actually, if Reach ever joins a good team again maybe he can win one as well. [/biased] | ||
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moopie
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NguN
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integral
United States3156 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:45 Zona wrote: Hiya doesn't even need to siege when attacking - his army is just so much bigger lol | ||
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konadora
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okum
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Zona
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GTR
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Kwanroller
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Lann555
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Caos2
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But, damn, those were nice storms. | ||
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StylishVODs
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Zona
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While a lone tank sieges up above 5... | ||
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konadora
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:46 StylishVODs wrote: Fuck I went to blow my noise and when I come back Hiyas army is gone. Did i miss something:D shuttle had some sexy storms but not enough | ||
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
My hopes are dashed. I hope it was a case of bad nerves. | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
but shuttle is damn good, that almost made up for the bad start | ||
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SplashbackFerret
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Lann555
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moopie
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Zona
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Shuttle concedes | ||
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Caos2
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o[twist]
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On April 15 2010 18:30 o[twist] wrote: lol sooo much calm v. fantasy... besides that one, baby, shuttle, jaedong ez. lol idiot | ||
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Jackal03
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Itachii
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boesthius
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Katsuge
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Jakalo
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HiyA in the end, but advantage was too big | ||
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Zona
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
Still don't get how he says he doesn't like the MU when he is so good at it. | ||
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Lucumo
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On April 15 2010 20:48 Itachii wrote: 0/3 LB fuck yeah.Now Dong needs to fuck up vs hydra and iam done Yay, 1/3 here :-P | ||
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Lann555
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
Every prediction by OP has been wrong so far... please don't let it be so for the last game as well =/ | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
All he needed was to protect his natural entrance and keep goons on high ground and he might have had a chance. | ||
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Gregsen
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:48 Itachii wrote: 0/3 LB fuck yeah.Now Dong needs to fuck up vs hydra and iam done Do not despair! This is only game one, two to go. | ||
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SkelA
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:49 Lann555 wrote: If this is the true level of PvT from Shuttle, he is very much screwed as far as individual leagues go This is actually better than his old PvT. Search for "Shuttle vs Canata" on youtube (from 2009 WL) and you'll find a game that makes Canata look like a genius. | ||
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Zona
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Last must be raping Shuttle in practice. | ||
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StylishVODs
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Garnet
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:49 Gregsen wrote: what kind of autotune track is that on roffles channel :D I duno but he should play The Roots - What They Do, that's what I'm listening to | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:54 roMAD wrote: kpop is the worst music ever did you never listen to jpop? | ||
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roMAD
Russia2355 Posts
Only from animes. It's bad too, but i guess it's a little better than kpop | ||
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GTR
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or even just regular english pop ;; | ||
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roMAD
Russia2355 Posts
I find english pop much better, although i don't listen to it at all Or you mean British pop? Oh lol, it's my 2000 post. Gonna dedicate it to Jaedong of course and his path of dethroning Flash. Lee Jae Dong <3 | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 15 2010 20:54 roMAD wrote: kpop is the worst music ever Couldn't agree more. | ||
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lavion
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prosatan
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FaCE_1
Canada6163 Posts
how about all pop is awful And yeah, all the player I was expecting to win are losing... what the hell is going on !!! | ||
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
Jaedong : Red | ||
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Malinor
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Zona
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Hydra the blue victim at 1. Yet another game on match point. | ||
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boesthius
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
Unknown zerg player who dares to face The Tyrant: Blue zerg | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
12 pool 11 gas for JD | ||
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sixfour
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prosatan
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Zona
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StylishVODs
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SuperArc
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Zona
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Overlords arrive at each other's nats | ||
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Zona
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Zona
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now JD has 1 drone on gas... | ||
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
First fight goes to JD | ||
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Caos2
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ZvZ in 2010 Jaedong: 66.67% in 18 matches Hydra: 44.44% in 9 matches ZvZ in Matchpoint in 2010 Jaedong: 100% in 2 matches Hydra: 100% in 1 match ZvZ in Matchpoint EVER Jaedong: 100% in 4 matches Hydra: 100% in 1 match | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
I liked the sunken at the natural, too often JD was too overconfident and then lost because he didnt make a sunken. | ||
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Smix
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Zona
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now JD has a bunch of lings below Hydra's nat Both players' lairs finish, spires started JD"s spire doesn't seem that much ahead | ||
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Zona
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Hydra has 7? drones on minerals in his main | ||
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Caos2
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Zona
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JD did kill a drone earlier with his lings though... JD does seem to have more drones on minerals than Hydra does actually Hydra looks like he has very few drones on minerals now... just 4 | ||
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Zona
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
This is called patrol micro. | ||
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SkelA
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Zona
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Hydra's roving mutas all gone he's toast | ||
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opsayo
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cold hard factz ;-) | ||
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prosatan
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Jd has this easy! | ||
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boesthius
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Jakalo
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Hydra :DDat last GG | ||
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Alethios
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Jackal03
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rape by the dong | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
But this is JD's MSL to win, he needs a golden badge.  | ||
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prosatan
Romania7763 Posts
Good work JD | ||
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
On April 15 2010 21:08 Cpadolf wrote: lol, what up with CJ zergs and really late GG timing? they gotta compensate for idra | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
Haha, nice one | ||
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lavion
Singapore286 Posts
outclassed | ||
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Cpadolf
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Lucumo
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StylishVODs
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3nickma
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Haha epic!  L E E J A E D O N G ! <3 | ||
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Cpadolf
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On April 15 2010 21:11 Cpadolf wrote: 9-1 in his last 10 ZvZ's, 20-6 (77%) since his loss against Savior. JvZ is coming back baby! Yeah, all I want is JD to mix his BOs up a bit more. 9pool speed all in rapes all his 12pool/hatch plays. | ||
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Zona
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DivinO
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boesthius
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SkytoM
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Zona
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On April 15 2010 20:50 snowdrift86 wrote: This is actually better than his old PvT. Search for "Shuttle vs Canata" on youtube (from 2009 WL) and you'll find a game that makes Canata look like a genius. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/11464_Canata_vs_Shuttle/vod | ||
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Ozarugold
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I was going to miss all of the matches today due to a previous appointment but lucky for me there was a 1+ hour TvT so I managed to catch Jaedong's match! Hurrah! | ||
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Doraemon
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
And HiyA too! I am happy~ (And of course Jaedong  ) | ||
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e_i_pi_1_0
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lacho_u
Bulgaria535 Posts
On April 15 2010 21:11 Cpadolf wrote: 9-1 in his last 10 ZvZ's, 20-6 (77%) since his loss against Savior. JvZ is coming back baby! That's exactly what I said yesterday. J V Z back in action, I hope that he's gonna pwn this MSL once again. | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
On April 15 2010 22:30 lacho_u wrote: That's exactly what I said yesterday. J V Z back in action, I hope that he's gonna pwn this MSL once again. Too bad he rolls over to Terran now. And considering the amount of terran, that might be a problem. | ||
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hku
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MountainDewJunkie
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On April 15 2010 23:52 MountainDewJunkie wrote: It's only "Clam" when he loses. That's right. Change OP please. | ||
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SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
On April 15 2010 22:12 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote: Jaedong and HiyA both won. I am a happy person. ALL OZ FINALS, MAKE IT HAPPEN! | ||
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ZenDeX
Philippines2916 Posts
I can't wait to see JD lose again if this happens! :D | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On April 16 2010 01:31 On_Slaught wrote: Wow fantasy losing to another zerg? Sad. Fantasy isn't good vs Zergs, how is this a surprise? | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 16 2010 02:28 Jayme wrote: Fantasy isn't good vs Zergs, how is this a surprise? He didn't´say it was a surprise, just that it was sad. I also think it's sad that he can't get his TvZ together like before. He was always so fun to watch:/ | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
poor fantasy | ||
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hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
too bad a D terran would just rush out like a retard and sadly win | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10340 Posts
MSL > OSL?? o_O | ||
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iNeedHugs
United States7 Posts
On April 16 2010 02:28 Jayme wrote: Fantasy isn't good vs Zergs, how is this a surprise? It's not. | ||
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