EPT[OSL] Ro16 Day 4
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boesthius
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MountainDewJunkie
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Movie Pure Shine | ||
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Captain Peabody
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Really excited for tonight's games...  | ||
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flamewheel
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What was it... GIANT SHARK VERSUS MONSTER OCTOPUS GO~ | ||
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BrownBear
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I guess I'll just read this during the class tomorrow instead of paying attention  | ||
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Deleted User 55994
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maybe watching the allin fail | ||
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jalstar
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want: kal movie fantasy effort but it's highly likely all 4 will lose | ||
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saritenite
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EDIT - AND STORK <3 | ||
DivinO
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On April 09 2010 13:10 flamewheel91 wrote: Holy shit the results picture is from that movie... What was it... GIANT SHARK VERSUS MONSTER OCTOPUS GO~ Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus, haha. Terrible great movie. | ||
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prog.ress
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FireGuyX
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Movie>Stork Pure<Fantasy Shine<Effort Sorry Stork fans but Stork will be eliminated from both leagues soon. | ||
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flamewheel
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On April 09 2010 14:26 DivinO wrote: Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus, haha. Terrible great movie. That shark was like WTF huge when he took out the bridge. | ||
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Ozarugold
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Katsuge
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On April 09 2010 15:02 FireGuyX wrote: Kwanro?Kal. If Kwanro wins Flash being eliminated from the ro16 is going to be pretty high which gives other players a better chance at winning the OSL. I want to see Flash win the golden mouse, but I would like to see Movie win a starleague too, which is why I'm neutral about this matchup. Movie>Stork Pure<Fantasy Shine<Effort Sorry Stork fans but Stork will be eliminated from both leagues soon. ??? isnt kwanro winning increasing the chances of Flash NOT being eliminated from his group..-_- | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On April 09 2010 16:29 Katsuge wrote: ??? isnt kwanro winning increasing the chances of Flash NOT being eliminated from his group..-_- Well it all depends if Kal beats Flash. If Flash is down 1-2 and Kal is 3-0, Kwanro would need to beat Hyvaa to force a tiebraker. If Kwanro beats Kal today and Flash loses to Kal, well Flash is screwed. | ||
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Aduromors
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flamewheel
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On April 09 2010 17:14 Aduromors wrote: what an awful OP Why bother commenting? I hereby ban you from all my LR OPs in the future. Shoo, shoo, begone wit'you! | ||
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Aduromors
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flamewheel
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On April 09 2010 17:20 Aduromors wrote: Not a fan of wading through unfunny image macros to get to the golden chalice of tl starcraft predictions You click one spoiler tag. One. You see a picture of a man with a horn. You scroll down a very negligible amount. You see four predictions. I still don't see what the problem is here. Also, Stork yawning. Amazing. | ||
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Jaester88
United States143 Posts
On April 09 2010 16:29 Katsuge wrote: ??? isnt kwanro winning increasing the chances of Flash NOT being eliminated from his group..-_- If Kwanro wins, everyone in the group is tied at 1-1, which means week 3 is do or die. If Flash beats Kal, he is guaranteed to advance, while if he loses, he is guaranteed to not advance. The situation become slightly more complicated if Kal beats Kwanro. In that case, even if Flash beats Kal, he is not quite guaranteed to advance, though chances are high. Likewise, even if Flash loses to Kal, he is not quite guaranteed to be out. I'd actually agree, Kal winning would be better for Flash because even if he loses to Kal, he might get a second chance. Even if he were to go to tiebreaker between Kal/Hyvaa/Flash, it's difficult for me to imagine that he would go 0-2 in tiebreakers anyway, so I'd rather have him have a possibility for a second chance than worry about him not being able to advance even if he beat Kal. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
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Ducci
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rainei
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Samurai-
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On April 09 2010 17:20 Aduromors wrote: Not a fan of wading through unfunny image macros to get to the golden chalice of tl starcraft predictions Jeah, i dislike this as well.. I use larger fonts, so everything is bigger, and its really frustrating when i click on predictions, and instead of predictions i get a picture to my face and i have to scroll down etc.. Predictions and results should only contain relevant data, that is my opinion. Or at least switch predictions with pictures, so pictures are second and predictions are first | ||
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boesthius
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ToeJam
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On April 09 2010 18:06 Samurai- wrote: Jeah, i dislike this as well.. I use larger fonts, so everything is bigger, and its really frustrating when i click on predictions, and instead of predictions i get a picture to my face and i have to scroll down etc.. Predictions and results should only contain relevant data, that is my opinion. Or at least switch predictions with pictures, so pictures are second and predictions are first Sometimes people like to have fun, since they are organizing all this information for us. It also keeps things interesting. Remember: We are not a community of robots. | ||
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boesthius
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Ryo
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Edit: The OGN ferron stream is working fine today, you can try that | ||
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lazz
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GTR
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On April 09 2010 18:34 Ryo wrote: Kwanro sometimes reminds me of an uglier version of Onew from Shinee Edit: The OGN ferron stream is working fine today, you can try that what | ||
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moopie
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prosatan
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Nice play there | ||
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NguN
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Kwanro's got nothing now | ||
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moopie
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another hatch going down now by his nat. gg. | ||
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sixfour
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Jackal03
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kwanro gg's | ||
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prosatan
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that hero Dt for Kal.... GG from Kwanro | ||
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meegrean
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monk
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7mk
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effort dont lose to shine again! gg btw, solid onesided play from kal | ||
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darktreb
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On April 09 2010 18:57 meegrean wrote: oops, kwanro is out of this osl. He can still make it but Kal has to beat Flash, Kwanro has to beat hyvaa, and then Kwanro has to win a tiebreaker between him, Flash, and hyvaa. In other words, it's not looking too good. | ||
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Xeln4g4
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Movie is going to face Bisu and Stork in a single week ... not bad as a challenge | ||
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moopie
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On April 09 2010 18:56 Kashll wrote: Damn i like how kwanro usually plays but that was pathetic. kwanro picks a build and all-ins. very rarely does he ever transition due to reacting to his opponent. His build didn't work, but it wasn't different than his usual play. | ||
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boesthius
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Malinor
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But Kal played awesome. | ||
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Amnesia
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On April 09 2010 19:03 boesthius wrote: Mystlord is on vacation until saturday. that said if you're lagging it's not me, sorry =/. network is completely fine on my end and i'm streaming the same way i have been sooo i dunno what to tell you .-. yup yup, it's not boes, it's you. I'm watching this stream watching my school Internet, which is really fucking slow. And the stream is running fine. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
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On April 09 2010 18:59 abyss wrote: MYSTLORD, WE NEED YOUR STREAM!!! ditto | ||
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FireGuyX
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On April 09 2010 19:07 Itachii wrote: Movie please suck like you did vs Bisu yesterday Except for game one, Movie played terrific. | ||
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moopie
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On April 09 2010 19:07 Itachii wrote: Movie please suck like you did vs Bisu yesterday did you watch his games against bisu? he lost the first time due to missing 2 dts that took out his econ (he was dominating bisu up until then, though it doesn't justify the blunder of losing close to 40 probes) and then beat him in the last match. his vp was actually a lot more solid than it used to be. | ||
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minidino
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Itachii
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On April 09 2010 19:11 FireGuyX wrote: Except for game one, Movie played terrific. no he sucked in both, watch them again | ||
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Ozarugold
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EDIT: Wow. Nevermind. That was sexy~ | ||
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boesthius
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lazz
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stork sent his probe 5 seconds earlier so he could scout inside his opponents base before 1 st zealot blocked ramped if he scouted 2nd position - damn.. nice timing | ||
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luckybeni2
Germany1065 Posts
On April 09 2010 19:12 moopie wrote: did you watch his games against bisu? he lost the first time due to missing 2 dts that took out his econ (he was dominating bisu up until then, though it doesn't justify the blunder of losing close to 40 probes) and then beat him in the last match. his vp was actually a lot more solid than it used to be. He played horrible. Bisu just played so bad and that he almost came back made movie look even worse | ||
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Ozarugold
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Itachii
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On April 09 2010 19:12 moopie wrote: did you watch his games against bisu? he lost the first time due to missing 2 dts that took out his econ (he was dominating bisu up until then, though it doesn't justify the blunder of losing close to 40 probes) and then beat him in the last match. his vp was actually a lot more solid than it used to be. i would't write something like that if i haven't watchem them don't let movie's wins fool you they both played really bad | ||
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moopie
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On April 09 2010 19:19 Itachii wrote: i would't write something like that if i haven't watchem them don't let movie's wins fool you they both played really bad all i said was that compared to his usual vp, his play was good (again, not counting losing all his probes in his main). | ||
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... Gets like 3 probes... | ||
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Movie takes 1. | ||
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Itachii
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On April 09 2010 19:37 Lann555 wrote: So where did Stork lose this game? he kinda let movie get bottom left for nothing | ||
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Ozarugold
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GG | ||
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moopie
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stork losing his 3 oclock now to movies army. expecting gg shortly. | ||
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Jackal03
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GJ movie! | ||
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moopie
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gg. | ||
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prosatan
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DinoToss is out | ||
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JohnColtrane
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faced | ||
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lazz
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edit: all the pvps movie has won recently is because he went for an all-in strat that skips detection. if his opponents went straight DT forge expand he wouldve lost PvP looking a lot like ZvZ recently, with detection openings > DT openings > non detection openings, although its always been like this really ;/ | ||
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moopie
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On April 09 2010 19:39 FireGuyX wrote: Movie said in an interview that PvP is his best MU, I guess he meant that. it certainly has gotten a lot better than it used to be. | ||
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Itachii
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Xeln4g4
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This game was one of the highest level PvP i have seen in a while! | ||
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Ozarugold
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I can never tell who is ahead in PvT. | ||
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
On April 09 2010 19:39 Faranth wrote: That was depressing. T.T Stork had superior battle micro, but allowed Movie to have more bases the entire game. >.< GG. Are the fates of Bisu and Stork intertwined or something? Yeah that sums it up :/ | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Can't wait until he runs into someone like Flash so I can enjoy watching him getting crushed. | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
On April 09 2010 19:41 Holgerius wrote: Movie is evil. Can't wait until he runs into someone like Flash so I can enjoy watching him getting crushed.movie is rough son | ||
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NguN
Australia1322 Posts
On April 09 2010 19:41 SkelA wrote: Is there a chance for 1-2 tiebreak in stork group or its not possible anymore? Yeah if Baby beats Movie and Stork beats Hwasin | ||
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structuralinertia
Australia1426 Posts
On April 09 2010 19:41 SkelA wrote: Is there a chance for 1-2 tiebreak in stork group or its not possible anymore? It's possible - Stork needs to beat Hwasin and Baby needs to beat Movie | ||
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On April 09 2010 19:41 SkelA wrote: Is there a chance for 1-2 tiebreak in stork group or its not possible anymore? Baby > Movie Stork > Hwasin Tiebreakers. I'd say Baby is the favorite against Movie and Stork is the favorite against Hwasin so this is definitely still possible. | ||
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chongu
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+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i40.tinypic.com/2mzl4qo.jpg) | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On April 09 2010 19:43 structuralinertia wrote: It's possible - Stork needs to beat Hwasin and Baby needs to beat Movie Highly possible considering how bad Movie's PvT is, I hope it improves when he plays against Baby. But Movie is 2-1 against Baby. | ||
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Canada115 Posts
On April 09 2010 19:41 SkelA wrote: Is there a chance for 1-2 tiebreak in stork group or its not possible anymore? If Stork > Hwasin, and Baby > Movie, Baby advances 3-0 and the other three tiebreak at 1-2. | ||
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Australia14949 Posts
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
Movie's just getting started. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Remember Bisu 2009? He went like fast dt in every second PvP/PvT he played. | ||
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Emon_
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Movie is 2-1 and has a good chance of advancing. Whatever the case, Pure vs. Fantasy should be EPIC! | ||
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Baddieko
Singapore855 Posts
On April 09 2010 19:43 Holgerius wrote: I do not get why Tosses don't just DT rush Movie. I've never seen him get detection early. =/ so movie gets his success from pvp by solely gambling, no detection and hidden expo. Prob he do his homework more knowing stork will never go dts | ||
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
On April 09 2010 19:45 darktreb wrote: You guys can hate on Movie all you want but he's one PvT win away from being definitively the best performing Protoss player (in the individual leagues) this season! Movie's just getting started. 100% quote | ||
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NguN
Australia1322 Posts
Heck, Movie had split Stork's army, moved into his natural, with a +1 upgrade over Stork and he still failed to break him. | ||
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
lol Pure has better stats than Fantasy? What? | ||
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Ozarugold
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EDIT: I meant boothgirl! | ||
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Ozarugold
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Aw...there goes my live reports... | ||
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On April 09 2010 19:48 Holgerius wrote: It makes me sick to see people compare Movie to Bisu and calling him the next big Protoss. =/ I do not see any potential for that in his play. That's pretty harsh. His play is definitely sloppy but to say you don't see "any potential" for him to be the next big Protoss means you're basically going out of your way not to. He's clearly got the modern solid mechanics as well as occasionally brilliant micro. He's demonstrated an ability to play PvZ in a way and on a level that very few if any other Protoss players can at the moment (his impressive 2-0 of Zero who was coming off an insane ZvP streak at the time during the last OSL is grossly underrated). He's demonstrated that he can perform under pressure (not every time, but he's not a guaranteed choker either) with games like his PL playoffs ace match against Leta last summer and him making the OSL finals as well as getting into both ro16's this year. He's also shown that he can come up with crafty builds, such as what he showed in games 1 and 2 in the OSL finals where he was way ahead in builds both times but couldn't put it together (and was facing the best player in the world). He would have won that OSL against another Terran, maybe even 3-0. He's also demonstrated that he can sometimes play absolutely terribly, and he sometimes makes absolutely inexcusable mistakes that are painful to watch. But to say he has "no potential" to be the next big P? Movie's like practically the definition of unrefined potential. | ||
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On April 09 2010 20:03 lazz wrote: Cross positions, pure wins. Night guys Haha 12 Nex too. Over before it begins! Just kidding ... sort of. | ||
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
On April 09 2010 20:04 darktreb wrote: Haha 12 Nex too. Over before it begins! Just kidding ... sort of. Pure has to fuck up pretty bad to lose it, we all know 12 nex has no counter *not counting Power Outage, but this is OSL, so it cant happen | ||
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United States282 Posts
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
On April 09 2010 20:06 Mortician wrote: Pure has to fuck up pretty bad to lose it, we all know 12 nex has no counter it does, proxy 8 rax | ||
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On April 09 2010 20:07 NguN wrote: I hope Fantasy double expands he'll get run over if he does. | ||
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Watch MVP vs. Best/Stork. Double expand into 10 Fact push. Destroyed them. | ||
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Fantasy sends out another Vulture. Kills Pure's probe at 9. No third for Pure aw... Plants mines. | ||
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On April 09 2010 20:08 writer22816 wrote: Isn't Rax expand a hard counter to 12 nex? rax expand would come out pretty even, id hardly call it a hard counter tho | ||
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Fantasy's vulture beating away at a pylon at 9 | ||
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On April 09 2010 20:09 lazz wrote: rax expand would come out pretty even, id hardly call it a hard counter tho I'd vote BBS for a hard counter and proxy 8 rax for a soft counter | ||
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On April 09 2010 20:10 Mortician wrote: I'd vote BBS for a hard counter and proxy 8 rax for a soft counter Pretty sad indeed | ||
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On April 09 2010 20:10 Mortician wrote: I'd vote BBS for a hard counter and proxy 8 rax for a soft counter youd have to ask idra but i think a proxied 8 rax would come out ahead of 12 nex 90% of the time, dsont really have to BBS but you may as well lol cos youre screwed if he 10 gated | ||
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Pure's probe destroys a vulture. Pure taking 9 now. | ||
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Pure runs into mines again like 5 times though -___- | ||
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way ahead. you got this son | ||
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150 supply vs 100 now in favor of Fant | ||
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it's awesome | ||
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On April 09 2010 20:26 Lann555 wrote: So if Zero beats Pure next weak Fantasy is garantueed at least a tie-breaker. how about Fantasy smashes Clam and is 2-1? | ||
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Lol, Fantasy smashing zergs...I hope so, but I'm not hopefull. | ||
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show us you're out of your slump! | ||
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On April 09 2010 20:02 darktreb wrote: That's pretty harsh. His play is definitely sloppy but to say you don't see "any potential" for him to be the next big Protoss means you're basically going out of your way not to. He's clearly got the modern solid mechanics as well as occasionally brilliant micro. He's demonstrated an ability to play PvZ in a way and on a level that very few if any other Protoss players can at the moment (his impressive 2-0 of Zero who was coming off an insane ZvP streak at the time during the last OSL is grossly underrated). He's demonstrated that he can perform under pressure (not every time, but he's not a guaranteed choker either) with games like his PL playoffs ace match against Leta last summer and him making the OSL finals as well as getting into both ro16's this year. He's also shown that he can come up with crafty builds, such as what he showed in games 1 and 2 in the OSL finals where he was way ahead in builds both times but couldn't put it together (and was facing the best player in the world). He would have won that OSL against another Terran, maybe even 3-0. He's also demonstrated that he can sometimes play absolutely terribly, and he sometimes makes absolutely inexcusable mistakes that are painful to watch. But to say he has "no potential" to be the next big P? Movie's like practically the definition of unrefined potential. I do not think he's showing solid mechanics at all. In fact I have several times noticed that his multitasking is extremely poor. His micro is good on a small scale, but when it comes to huge army control he is severly outclassed by plenty of other Tosses. I do not agree that he would've won the OSL finals vs any other T than Flash; his PvT is absolutely horrible and insanely gimmicky. I can agree that his PvZ is pretty good, but other than that he's mediocre at best. Comparing him to Bisu is retarded. | ||
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On April 09 2010 20:38 Ozarugold wrote: Weird lag. Shine Overpool gas? Effort with 12hatch? Shine 12pooled. | ||
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On April 09 2010 20:32 Holgerius wrote: I do not think he's showing solid mechanics at all. In fact I have several times noticed that his multitasking is extremely poor. His micro is good on a small scale, but when it comes to huge army control he is severly outclassed by plenty of other Tosses. I do not agree that he would've won the OSL finals vs any other T than Flash; his PvT is absolutely horrible and insanely gimmicky. I can agree that his PvZ is pretty good, but other than that he's mediocre at best. Comparing him to Bisu is retarded. So a mediocre player has 100% win rate vs Stats and Stork? God those two must suck. And his BOs were good enough to crush any other T than Flash 3-0. | ||
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On April 09 2010 20:39 SuperArc wrote: So a mediocre player has 100% win rate vs Stats and Stork? God those two must suck. And his BOs were good enough to crush any other T than Flash 3-0. Dude, M18M has a 100% winrate vs Flash. So what? Really bad argument there yo. I feel extremely confident that any solid TvP'er would've crushed Movie. At roughly the same point in his career as Movie is in now, Bisu had 2 Starleague wins under his belt and had crushed the current bonjwa 3-0. | ||
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On April 09 2010 20:43 Holgerius wrote: Dude, M18M has a 100% winrate vs Flash. So what? Really bad argument there yo. I feel extremely confident that any solid TvP'er would've crushed Movie. At roughly the same point in his career as Movie is in now, Bisu had 2 Starleague wins under his belt and had crushed the current bonjwa 3-0. M18M only played one game vs Flash. | ||
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And Movie only played 2 games vs Stork. | ||
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god both players suck at ZvZ | ||
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Three if you count today, all happened at different times. | ||
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On April 09 2010 20:48 SuperArc wrote: Three if you count today, all happened at different times. Come back if he actually beats Stork in a BoX in a Starleague. Then I can maybe take you seriously. | ||
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Air battle. Shine winning... Effort GGs | ||
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Shine's zvz is still rock hard. | ||
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His games clearly show he takes his girlfriend more seriously. He should make way and retire. Hydra has more potential than that. His play is disgusting. | ||
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again | ||
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Stork is in the same situation. . | ||
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On April 09 2010 20:51 SuperArc wrote: Why is Effort even playing SC anymore? His games clearly show he takes his girlfriend more seriously. He should make way and retire. Hydra has more potential than that. His play is disgusting. What the hell happened to the guy? A year ago he was still seen as one of the next great zergs and now he is just about ready for the B-team. | ||
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On April 09 2010 21:05 Lann555 wrote: What the hell happened to the guy? A year ago he was still seen as one of the next great zergs and now he is just about ready for the B-team. Most probably girlfriend into slump. A lack of effort in his play (ironically). | ||
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Since with Stork out I dont see any player beat Flash in a bo3/bo5. Stork could have beaten him if he met him before the final. Stork vs Flash finals would have been one-sided rape. | ||
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On April 09 2010 21:05 Lann555 wrote: What the hell happened to the guy? A year ago he was still seen as one of the next great zergs and now he is just about ready for the B-team. He just happened to be the one to reach the Jaedong standard first. The rest have since caught up too. | ||
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Group A:  Kal 2-0 hyvaa 1-1 Flash 1-1Kwanro 0-2Kwanro almost out, if hyvaa and Flash wins, we'll have a round robin with 2 going out. Kwanro has to beat hyvaa and hOpe that Kal beats Flash so he can try for the last spot in the round robinGroup B: BaBy 2-0Hwasin 1-1Movie 1-1Stork 0-2Stork almost out, if Movie beats BaBy and Hwasin beats Stork, round robin with 2 going out. Stork has to beat Hwasin and hope that BaBy beats Movie so he can try to advance in the round robinGroup C: ZerO 2-0Pure 1-1fantasy 1-1Calm 0-2Calm almost out, fantasy beating Calm and pure beating ZerO we will have round robin with 2 going out too. Calm has to beat fantasy and cheer for ZerOGroup D: fOrGG 2-0go.go 1-1Shine 1-1EffOrt 0-2fOrGG is almost classified and EffOrt still got a shot, if fOrGG beats Shine and he beats go.go, we'll have a round robin with only 1 going out. Also, if go.go beats EffOrt and Shine beats fOrGG, round robin for 2 spotsso, i guess this sums up OSL so far edit: messed up, no one is out yet | ||
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On April 09 2010 21:32 Jackal03 wrote: so now we have: Group A: Kal 2-0hyvaa 1-1Flash 1-1Kwanro 0-2Kwanro out, if hyvaa and Flash wins, we'll have a round robin with 2 going outGroup B: BaBy 2-0Hwasin 1-1Movie 1-1Stork 0-2Stork out , if Movie beats BaBy and Hwasin beats Stork, round robin with 2 going outGroup C: ZerO 2-0Pure 1-1fantasy 1-1Calm 0-2Calm out , fantasy beating Calm and pure beating ZerO we will have round robin with 2 going out tooGroup D: fOrGG 2-0go.go 1-1Shine 1-1EffOrt 0-2fOrGG is almost classified and EffOrt still got a shot, if fOrGG beats Shine and he beats go.go, we'll have a round robin with only 1 going out. Also, if go.go beats EffOrt and Shine beats fOrGG, round robin for 2 spotsso, i guess this sums up OSL so far This is almost exactly opposite of how I wish it was. I think I should find a different hobby. | ||
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If Flash > Kal and hyvaa > Kwanro then Kal, hyvaa, and Flash are all at 2-1 and playoff with 2 advancing.If Flash > Kal and Kwanro > hyvaa then Flash advances as First and Kal advances as second.If Flash < Kal and hyvaa > Kwanro then Kal advances as First and hyvaa advances as second.If Flash < Kal and hyvaa < Kwanro then Kal advances as first and Flash, hyvaa, and Kwanro playoff for second. | ||
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Stork is 0-2 in a group with no zergs. What. | ||
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flash you better beat kal! | ||
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EffOrt, you make me so sad. | ||
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On April 09 2010 22:39 konadora wrote: Shine > EffOrt oh god Effort wtf happened to you? Women, always been men's downfall. | ||
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On April 09 2010 20:28 Lann555 wrote: Lol, Fantasy smashing zergs...I hope so, but I'm not hopefull. Never underestimate Fantasy, he's TvZ is unpredictable. Besides, Calm's ZvT is far from being perfect as well. | ||
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On April 09 2010 22:39 konadora wrote: Shine > EffOrt oh god Effort wtf happened to you? Not that unbelievable? | ||
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Wow. | ||
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On April 09 2010 22:56 hitthat wrote: Never underestimate Fantasy, he's TvZ is unpredictable. Besides, Calm's ZvT is far from being perfect as well. Never underestimate Fantasy? If by unpredictable you mean a total gimmick that fails half the time then you are correct. | ||
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On April 10 2010 03:01 Jayme wrote: Never underestimate Fantasy? If by unpredictable you mean a total gimmick that fails half the time then you are correct. It all depends on your perspective. is the glass 1/2 full, or 1/2 empty? he can beat anyone with his crazy builds, just as easily as he can lose to anyone with them. | ||
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On April 10 2010 03:36 Chen wrote: It all depends on your perspective. is the glass 1/2 full, or 1/2 empty? he can beat anyone with his crazy builds, just as easily as he can lose to anyone with them. Fantasy has good builds and especially his transitions into mid-game mech have proven him useful. The only reason he lost to Zero was due to the fact that he left his valkyries idle (*SIGH*) p.s: Fantasy has beaten Calm 3 times to Calm's 1 time (only last season stats), which has to be taken into consideration. Two of those wins were pretty dominating if you ask me | ||
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This is the reason, in my opinion, Flash lost. He used a strategy which allowed for lower APM requirments for both sides which allowed hyvaa enough breathing room mechanically to excecute his gameplan, which as usual was the correct response, close to 100%. | ||
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Bisu and now Stork interesting and good to see fantasy kicking ass <3 | ||
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United States627 Posts
lol, movie owning | ||
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United States5045 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/564_Movie/games#tblt-3728-1-default-0-stork | ||
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On April 10 2010 05:44 raga4ka wrote: I hope that with todays and yesterdays win people will stop calling Movie a one MU specialist with 2 mediocre MUs . He is as good as a protoss can get right now . I rarely cheer for protoss players to win anything , but i wouldn't mind Kal or Movie winning the OSL . They have a lot of style and flair in their games . I swore after seeing him macro off 5 mining bases while storm dodging that his APM went up, but nope, still 250. | ||
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Poland2267 Posts
On April 10 2010 03:01 Jayme wrote: Never underestimate Fantasy? If by unpredictable you mean a total gimmick that fails half the time then you are correct. Memory's too short? Wins against Jeadong during his best form is not much? If fantasy made a one gimmick build and loose every time becouse of this, than ok. But no, he tries many, many gimmicky strats, and thats why he is capable of outsmart any Zerg. You underestimate him becouse you cannot see that he's capable of wining against any Zerg as much as loosing against the worst scrub. Through all his career Fantasy was overrated or underrated. Besides, against Calm he is not even underdog. Calm's form is terrible right now. | ||
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