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Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
February 02 2010 13:07 GMT
#821
On February 02 2010 22:04 Mystlord wrote:
Stork. Get better plz. I still love you.

i am in full agreement with this. please find your inner imbaness and win a clutch game for a change T_T
@QxGDarkCell ._.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
February 02 2010 13:08 GMT
#822
On February 02 2010 22:00 Redshirt wrote:
Most protoss players are loving idiots when it comes to PvZ. That's why they always lose against the zerg players who can tick off all of the checkpoints.


when the hell did this use of the word "loving" start ? O_o
its so bizarre
beep boop
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
February 02 2010 13:08 GMT
#823
On February 02 2010 22:06 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 22:03 PanoRaMa wrote:
On February 02 2010 22:00 BackHo wrote:
Sigh

Why didn't CJ send out Savior instead?


probably cuz CJ wanted to win

all the "pvz needs to be fixed" sounds like the 6months-year prior to bisu 3-0ing savior in msl...just give it time for builds to evolve and protosses to get better. Where was all the pvz complaining in 2008/2009 when protosses were owning, i.e. 6 dragon/taekbang era?


Protosses are doing better already.

Please dont bring this topic up again just because two Protosses got defeated by a freaking zvp monster, its really ridiculous


what? i'm not the one complaining -_-

balance is fine imo, it's all just trends.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 13:14:10
February 02 2010 13:13 GMT
#824
On February 02 2010 22:08 PanoRaMa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 22:06 7mk wrote:
On February 02 2010 22:03 PanoRaMa wrote:
On February 02 2010 22:00 BackHo wrote:
Sigh

Why didn't CJ send out Savior instead?


probably cuz CJ wanted to win

all the "pvz needs to be fixed" sounds like the 6months-year prior to bisu 3-0ing savior in msl...just give it time for builds to evolve and protosses to get better. Where was all the pvz complaining in 2008/2009 when protosses were owning, i.e. 6 dragon/taekbang era?


Protosses are doing better already.

Please dont bring this topic up again just because two Protosses got defeated by a freaking zvp monster, its really ridiculous


what? i'm not the one complaining -_-

balance is fine imo, it's all just trends.


the 2nd part wasnt directed at you (but yeah it sounds like it was ^^)
beep boop
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
February 02 2010 13:15 GMT
#825
On February 02 2010 21:59 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 21:58 Malinor wrote:
On the highest level of play, it doesn't seem that protoss has an answer to zerg right now.
It helps if you don't let a bunch of lurkers run into your main.


I wasn't reffering to this game only. The dominance that zerg had over toss a few months ago has mostly vanished. But seeing Jaedong and Effort play, they just overwhelm their opponents. Of course Stork made a few mistakes early on, but Jangbi did not, and he lost in a similar fashion, unable to secure a forth base, while Effort slowly expands and secures map control, with endless amounts of units streaming onto the toss.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
February 02 2010 13:15 GMT
#826
Damn, Stork got outplayed.

If he hadn't went for a super early third he would've had a better chance =(. It's just Effort scouted the attempt like right away lol.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
February 02 2010 13:21 GMT
#827
i knew no khan toss could beat effort

CJ won again, i'm glad bad times are ending (the trio is pefforming well again)
BW is back
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
February 02 2010 13:27 GMT
#828
yay CJ! I can't for vods
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
February 02 2010 13:28 GMT
#829
On February 02 2010 22:27 Tuke wrote:
yay CJ! I can't for vods

I cant for them either
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 13:34:34
February 02 2010 13:32 GMT
#830
On February 02 2010 22:15 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 21:59 okum wrote:
On February 02 2010 21:58 Malinor wrote:
On the highest level of play, it doesn't seem that protoss has an answer to zerg right now.
It helps if you don't let a bunch of lurkers run into your main.


I wasn't reffering to this game only. The dominance that zerg had over toss a few months ago has mostly vanished. But seeing Jaedong and Effort play, they just overwhelm their opponents. Of course Stork made a few mistakes early on, but Jangbi did not, had he lost in a similar fashion, unable to secure a forth base, while Effort slowly expands and secures map control, with endless amounts of units streaming onto the toss.


its not like its impossible to defeat effort as protoss
his last loss was 6 days ago. his last loss vs jangbi barely over a month.
But yeah I sort of agree about the situation.
But tbh I think zerg players are just generally better than protoss players atm.
beep boop
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
February 02 2010 13:33 GMT
#831
The templar drop killing drones really do 0 damage in late game when they can replenish 20 drones in seconds . IMO drones are valuable in early game. Protoss should not waste energy to exchange gas for mins.
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
February 02 2010 13:45 GMT
#832
On February 02 2010 22:33 Baddieko wrote:
The templar drop killing drones really do 0 damage in late game when they can replenish 20 drones in seconds . IMO drones are valuable in early game. Protoss should not waste energy to exchange gas for mins.

If storm drop kills 20 drones it is huge damage at any part of the game. Sure zerg can replenish them very quickly but that is 20 larvas that could've gone for units. It cripples zerg's mining at that base pretty much. If zerg doesn't remake those drones and chooses to make units, his ecomony is going to suffer so much with longer range. Either way zerg's army is going to be smaller.
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
February 02 2010 14:09 GMT
#833
Isn't this less of a zerg v protoss issue and more of an Effort v Stork issue?

Effort is 4-0 against Stork... he just simply has Stork's number.
Moktira is da bomb
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6173 Posts
February 02 2010 14:12 GMT
#834
dont tell me this series isnt finish yet ??
n_n
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 14:17:10
February 02 2010 14:16 GMT
#835
On February 02 2010 23:12 FaCE_1 wrote:
dont tell me this series isnt finish yet ??

Why wouldn't it be?

EDIT: Oh, it's not updated but EffOrt already won.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
February 02 2010 14:35 GMT
#836
On February 02 2010 22:32 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 22:15 Malinor wrote:
On February 02 2010 21:59 okum wrote:
On February 02 2010 21:58 Malinor wrote:
On the highest level of play, it doesn't seem that protoss has an answer to zerg right now.
It helps if you don't let a bunch of lurkers run into your main.


I wasn't reffering to this game only. The dominance that zerg had over toss a few months ago has mostly vanished. But seeing Jaedong and Effort play, they just overwhelm their opponents. Of course Stork made a few mistakes early on, but Jangbi did not, had he lost in a similar fashion, unable to secure a forth base, while Effort slowly expands and secures map control, with endless amounts of units streaming onto the toss.


its not like its impossible to defeat effort as protoss
his last loss was 6 days ago. his last loss vs jangbi barely over a month.
But yeah I sort of agree about the situation.
But tbh I think zerg players are just generally better than protoss players atm.


Probably the truth.

I wasn't trying to say there is nothing protosses they can do, don't want to start a useless imba debate. Just right now, the best zvp players are looking really really strong.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 14:53:25
February 02 2010 14:51 GMT
#837
I hate to see Stork lose, but Stork has been playing good latelly and you will always run into a mine at some point. To do it vs a really good zvp player is nothing to be upset about.

Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
February 02 2010 15:00 GMT
#838
On February 02 2010 22:07 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2010 22:04 Mystlord wrote:
Stork. Get better plz. I still love you.

i am in full agreement with this. please find your inner imbaness and win a clutch game for a change T_T


lol are you kidding me? two last khan games stork has stepped in and won it for them!
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
February 02 2010 15:27 GMT
#839
Can we declare (Z)EffOrt's ZvP hiccup over?

Yeah, probably.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
February 02 2010 15:33 GMT
#840
Effort's ZvP is truly quite ridiculous, he's clearly reading the Protoss Code like July used to.
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