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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
January 23 2010 11:45 GMT
#3561
I didnt know the game went on longer than what we saw on our streams that for sure changes things..

T_T
hatred outlives the hateful
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
January 23 2010 11:45 GMT
#3562
Still happy about Jaedong's win, and I commend Flash for being able to smile whilst accepting his award, I wouldn't be able to smile after all that drama.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
~chut~
Profile Joined September 2003
France1317 Posts
January 23 2010 11:45 GMT
#3563
As strange as it is, Flash looked happier than JD at the end...
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 23 2010 11:46 GMT
#3564
That's the sad thing about all this, Jaedong was actually playing great Starcraft (and as always so was Flash). Neither of them deserved to have their hard work taken away from them in this fashion.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 23 2010 11:46 GMT
#3565
On January 23 2010 20:44 o[twist] wrote:
notice one thing that i REALLY like:

flash and jaedong seem unhappy about all of this
but they're still smiling when they shake hands or talk to each other.
at least they respect each other even if nobody else does

they're friends in that rival kind of way

but I think both of them feel pretty bad about the situation but can't really blame anyone
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
January 23 2010 11:46 GMT
#3566
On January 23 2010 20:44 SUSUGAM wrote:
Guys. I'm 120,000% sure it's the replay. It says so right on the screen.

they were casting over their broadcasted videos (notice the background commentary...)
POGGERS
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
January 23 2010 11:46 GMT
#3567
It's a shame for Jaedong to have to win like this but the reactions from people are hilariously over the top.
Power went out they had 2 options. Give Jaedong the win, or regame. Regame is MORE unfair because Jaedong was very far in front so they chose the right option.
Flash played great but Jaedong was just a little bit better. Congrats to him. The final was dissapointing as a lot of them are but that's just the way it goes.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
January 23 2010 11:46 GMT
#3568
Kespa never heard of a UPS? and the 3rd match shouldnt have been given to JD. game 4 wasnt even a game, flash was upset (as well he should have been). and now JD is pretending like he earned this trophy.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
January 23 2010 11:46 GMT
#3569
And this series was looking SO promising after game 2 and all the way through game 3.

Ugh. Biggest let-down ever, far far worse than 3-0 in either direction.
Intrigue: "as i've said to many others your troubles in life may be directly correlated to your dirty protoss icon"
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 23 2010 11:46 GMT
#3570
On January 23 2010 20:45 vnlegend wrote:
JD strategically dismantled Flash today. The controversial game aside, JD was always 1 step ahead and penetrated Flash's turtling. But no, the 2 losses never happened because Flash is the best!!!!


early game loss
timing push
timing push
8 rax

where was the turtling?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 23 2010 11:47 GMT
#3571
Guys as I've said numerous times, if G3 would have went on, JD would have won. Regame would have been the most unfair thing possible.

3-1 like this, 3-1 if the game had went on. Doesn't make a difference, JD >>> Flash easily. In his worth match-up, on super imbalanced MSL maps. What do you say about that? Nothing, you just keep thinking about unimportant things and concentrating on the wrong stuff.

When G3 vod comes out, analyse it objectively and think for a while.

GJ Jaedong, never doubted you ^_^ Too bad you didn't use Guardians properly in G2, or it'd be a crushing 3-0.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
January 23 2010 11:47 GMT
#3572
On January 23 2010 20:42 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Jeadong was not winning ?
But since everyone seems to think so I'll leave it at that..

Jeadony was slightly leading..
thats it..

give it up retard. yes he was winning.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Tossim111
Profile Joined October 2009
United States246 Posts
January 23 2010 11:47 GMT
#3573
Did I really stay awake for this disappointing series... only game 2 was "ok". The best game of the series ends up being a black out with jaedong at 3.5 bases vs flash 1.5 bases... jaedong looked like he was able to defend 7, with sunks, ultraling, and defiler but you don't just give the win to him because he has an advantage. You have them regame, sure it may seem uneven for jaedong since he had an advantage but it wasn't an advatage of epic proportions enough to actually give him a win, especially since it's 1-1 and bo5. It pretty much put Flash on tilt knowing that he was 1 game away from losing, and to make matters worse the last game did not even finish. Re game would be the most best decision as it doesn't effect either player since none of them are at fault for that bullshit and the series is still equal. Ridiculous.
annYeong(o11)
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada784 Posts
January 23 2010 11:47 GMT
#3574
why did they make the trophy look like a dong?

how did they manage to fail at that relatively simple task
Founder of the KiWiKaKi Fanclub: teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188537 my keyboard is like half broken. like terran. please ignore typos, thanks
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
January 23 2010 11:47 GMT
#3575
I do, though, reall enjoy how both Jaedong and Flash were like... Uh okay. I guess I won this time. No big.
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
January 23 2010 11:48 GMT
#3576
Everyone was robbed by that.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
January 23 2010 11:48 GMT
#3577
On January 23 2010 20:46 d3_crescentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 20:44 o[twist] wrote:
notice one thing that i REALLY like:

flash and jaedong seem unhappy about all of this
but they're still smiling when they shake hands or talk to each other.
at least they respect each other even if nobody else does

they're friends in that rival kind of way

but I think both of them feel pretty bad about the situation but can't really blame anyone


exactly

except they can definitely blame someone

but this is korea so nobody is going to say "thanks but no thanks mbc" during the awards ceremony and i'm astonished anybody who watches pro sc would expect something like that.

i am livid right now. this could seriously have massive psychological implications for either of these guys it's just absurd the people running something like this could be so incompetent
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
January 23 2010 11:48 GMT
#3578
On January 23 2010 20:40 Murlox wrote:

Power is your Intelligence
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
January 23 2010 11:48 GMT
#3579
Congratulations to Jaedong. I wanted Flash badly but I like JD a lot too.

I'm not really concerned about the title actually. This series was meant to determine who is the best player right now. I honestly think it's Flash still and I wished the series played out properly for me to either verify or deny that claim. I hope there is a special match in the very closer future (less then 2 weeks) between these two to actually settle this debate.
MartT
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom88 Posts
January 23 2010 11:48 GMT
#3580
On January 23 2010 20:43 d_so wrote:
flash so mannered. here's a parahrase of what he said:

i wanted to show a good form to my fans but i wasn't able to do it... i feel it was partly due to my skill level not being high enough. i want to congratulate jaedong for his win and i will do better for my fans next time.

at least that's what i remember. better translations will come i'm sure very soon


Just about every interview of the loser of a korean SC says the exact same thing. Not much need for translations
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