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[OSL] EVER 2009 OSL Grand Final - Flash vs Movie - Page 135

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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
January 17 2010 10:21 GMT
#2681
On January 17 2010 19:15 d(O.o)a wrote:
Movie can't be babysitting his DT 24/7 he got a decent amount done with it by killing the shop and what more could he have done? try to kill an scv when there's a turret in range? run to the natural where there's another turret?


His WHOLE opening is based on that, and it's the early game. There's absolutely no reason to lose the reaver outside of turret range. Nor is there any to lose the initial DT.

I'd probably agree with you had it been any other phase of the game though.

As for the reavers, they died to tanks that were out of sight range. He is supposed to map hack or something?


He was supposed to gather the reaver back after the scarab went off. He was late (just like he was for the DT) and that was a terrible mistake at this stage of the game.
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InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
January 17 2010 10:21 GMT
#2682
On January 17 2010 19:16 Shikyo wrote:

Those strategic recalls were really nice.

What are people talking about


how can you say a hallucination recall behind the spidermine/turret line was not a great strategy? This failed JUST because of Flash's amazing defense and a subpar unitmix/execution by movie.


"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 17 2010 10:21 GMT
#2683
The Power Rank is spot on about Movie: He's fucking GOOD but unrefined. In this series he's shown the ability to prepare for Series play and he's shown some damn good PvT.

He's playing Flash though and his execution is suffering. That sums it up all to this point. Neither play has played like shit, or boring or whatever. This is seriously a matchup of two top 5 players in the world right, except the #1 player is SO far ahead of everyone else.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 17 2010 10:21 GMT
#2684
Flash sets up outside his third... awaiting the inevitable recalls
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 17 2010 10:22 GMT
#2685
Flash has secured his third...

Ah scans the arb and the stargate and arb tribunal.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
January 17 2010 10:22 GMT
#2686
this is so boring... movie turtling like a flash
( ・´ー・`)
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
January 17 2010 10:22 GMT
#2687
Scan over arbiter tribunal and stargate.
Flash returns...
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
January 17 2010 10:22 GMT
#2688
What the fuck Flash. How do you scan like that?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
January 17 2010 10:22 GMT
#2689
I WANT THAT JIGSAW PUZZLE
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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
January 17 2010 10:22 GMT
#2690
On January 17 2010 19:21 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 19:15 d(O.o)a wrote:
Movie can't be babysitting his DT 24/7 he got a decent amount done with it by killing the shop and what more could he have done? try to kill an scv when there's a turret in range? run to the natural where there's another turret?


His WHOLE opening is based on that, and it's the early game. There's absolutely no reason to lose the reaver outside of turret range. Nor is there any to lose the initial DT.

I'd probably agree with you had it been any other phase of the game though.

Show nested quote +
As for the reavers, they died to tanks that were out of sight range. He is supposed to map hack or something?


He was supposed to gather the reaver back after the scarab went off. He was late (just like he was for the DT) and that was a terrible mistake at this stage of the game.


The tank shot it as it shot the scarab. there was literally less than a second between.
Hi.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 17 2010 10:22 GMT
#2691
On January 17 2010 19:21 Mystlord wrote:
Arbs coming for Movie.

Flash looks like he's going to play the same macro game like on HBR.

Don't think he can make that great wall of supply depots though
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Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
January 17 2010 10:22 GMT
#2692
Flash's balance and timing is so sick. I don't think he misses a beat - ever. I'm sure he dreams timing builds, unit balance, the time it takes to get an EMP from start to finish and is that quick enough to counter, I'm sure he has like individual clocks in his head that tell him when he has enough energy for a scan. Etc etc.
CJ Entusman #24
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 17 2010 10:22 GMT
#2693
On January 17 2010 19:21 Ace wrote:
The Power Rank is spot on about Movie: He's fucking GOOD but unrefined. In this series he's shown the ability to prepare for Series play and he's shown some damn good PvT.

He's playing Flash though and his execution is suffering. That sums it up all to this point. Neither play has played like shit, or boring or whatever. This is seriously a matchup of two top 5 players in the world right, except the #1 player is SO far ahead of everyone else.


I wonder if this is a good demonstartion of his skill though. He's under a ton of stress...
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
January 17 2010 10:22 GMT
#2694
woot depot walls!
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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
January 17 2010 10:23 GMT
#2695
On January 17 2010 19:22 meegrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 19:21 Mystlord wrote:
Arbs coming for Movie.

Flash looks like he's going to play the same macro game like on HBR.

Don't think he can make that great wall of supply depots though

If he did then that would just be wtf
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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
January 17 2010 10:23 GMT
#2696

On January 17 2010 19:17 johnnyspazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 19:16 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:15 johnnyspazz wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:14 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:13 konadora wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:11 cz wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:11 bearbuddy wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:10 O-ops wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:10 konadora wrote:
3-2 Royal Roader (P)Movie Reverse Comeback plz


Didn't anytime do the same thing?


I think anytime went from 2-0 to 2-2 to 3-2


thanks for telling us about the 2-2 part

uh i think he was talking about

Anytime went 2-0

Then Boxer caught up 2-2

Then Anytime won 3-2

Right, but if a series goes from 2-0 to 3-2, it's redundant to say it went through 2-2 along the way. That's a given


LOL are you serious?

yes. you tell me how 3-2 is possible without 2-2

the point is the winner of the series is still ambiguous you retard


The point is that you are going against your opponent when he is on fire, turd. There's a difference between going from 0-2 to 3-2 and going 2-0 to 3-2

Thx for informing us that the winner of this series is still ambiguous when the series is not over.

Fan of the Jangbanger
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 17 2010 10:23 GMT
#2697
Movie applying some good early pressure
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
January 17 2010 10:23 GMT
#2698
On January 17 2010 19:21 johnnyspazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 19:18 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:17 johnnyspazz wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:16 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:15 johnnyspazz wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:14 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:13 konadora wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:11 cz wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:11 bearbuddy wrote:
On January 17 2010 19:10 O-ops wrote:
[quote]

Didn't anytime do the same thing?


I think anytime went from 2-0 to 2-2 to 3-2


thanks for telling us about the 2-2 part

uh i think he was talking about

Anytime went 2-0

Then Boxer caught up 2-2

Then Anytime won 3-2

Right, but if a series goes from 2-0 to 3-2, it's redundant to say it went through 2-2 along the way. That's a given


LOL are you serious?

yes. you tell me how 3-2 is possible without 2-2

the point is the winner of the series is still ambiguous you retard

I was quoting someone who was talking about Anytime vs Boxer. It's not ambiguous, it already happened kthx.

wow youre an even bigger idiot than i thought
it isnt that it went 2-2, its the fact someone said anytime went down 0-2 and won 3 straight when instead he won 2 and lost 2 and won the last game

Fucking duh. If he wins games 1,2 and 5, that obviously means games 3 and 4 were won by the other guy, hence 2-2. You can't go from up 2-0 to up 3-2 without going through 2-2. It's redundant info.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
January 17 2010 10:23 GMT
#2699
On January 17 2010 19:20 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 19:18 FireGuyX wrote:
how the **** is Flash suppose to defend his expansions on this map?

turtle up with tanks? maybe?
Movie shoulda tried carriers at least once this series,



Movie is already taking a 4th expansion.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
January 17 2010 10:23 GMT
#2700
wow turret + tank strat does not work at all.
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