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[OSL] EVER 2009 OSL Grand Final - Flash vs Movie - Page 122

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gdcrimson
Profile Joined January 2009
New Zealand148 Posts
January 17 2010 09:57 GMT
#2421
On January 17 2010 18:55 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 18:52 PoP wrote:
Terrible terrible execution by Movie in basically everything he attempted.

I disagree. His reaver micro was excellent, remember shuttles have less sight range than tanks have range, often you can't see the shit that kills you. His build was clever and had he not lost his first reaver it would have been devastating. His problem was that as good as he was, Flash was better. It's unfortunate for him that for once the #1 player in the world is the finalist he has to beat. Movie has hugely upped his game for this. Were it any other starleague won by luxury or ggplay etc Movie would lolrape. But for once the finals is an actual contest between two of the best players.


Completely agree. In fact, had this been any Terran other than Flash, Movie could well be 2-0 up at this point. He's playing well but Flash is a fucking monster.
Kreedit
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden373 Posts
January 17 2010 09:57 GMT
#2422
On January 17 2010 18:54 SkelA wrote:
eh if this was stork vs flash and msl flash vs jaedong was gonna be best year! but no movie has to be in a final t.t


Dunno man stork has shown to be a little rusty atm overall so i doubt he would have what it takes to beat flash.

Though if they would have meet im 100% sure it wouldnt have ended in a 3-0 as it looks like this set is going too.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
January 17 2010 09:57 GMT
#2423
On January 17 2010 18:56 integral wrote:
Please pay attention, seriously

1. Movie didn't "fail to cast" storm,
2. nor did he forget to upgrade it.
3. A shuttle wouldn't have helped, because
4. Flash did not target templar with tanks or vultures, because
5. FLASH PUSHED BECAUSE HE KNEW THE TEMPLARS DIDNT HAVE ENERGY FOR STORM YET

The HTs were about to cast...
POGGERS
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
January 17 2010 09:57 GMT
#2424
err dude, flash sieged up in the middle of the map, movie ENGAGED him, i'm 90% sure those templar had energy, flash is just too good
Writer
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 17 2010 09:57 GMT
#2425
On January 17 2010 18:56 Ace wrote:
For those of you saying movie sucks PvT - do you honestly think ANY other Terran could have taken the shit Movie displayed so far?

Didn't think so.

Fucking lots of credit to Flash showing he's still a fucking pimp.

check my signature bro
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
January 17 2010 09:57 GMT
#2426
btw, is it me or the observator is sucking in this serie?
i mean, the first reaver kill, not watching harrasements, or key building hp getting depleted...*

man flash is invincible
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
January 17 2010 09:57 GMT
#2427
On January 17 2010 18:56 Qwertify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 18:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
On January 17 2010 18:55 nodule wrote:
those temps were like 10 s away from having enough energy for storm


They had enough energy or movie wouldn't have engaged.


This is obvious.


Apparently not for a lot of people.
Hi.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 17 2010 09:57 GMT
#2428
On January 17 2010 18:56 538 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 18:54 jalstar wrote:
On January 17 2010 18:53 kyzers0ze wrote:
by.movie? flash and movie from the same clan?


and fantasy. movie probably could have practiced against fantasy if fantasy didn't basically worship flash

It's not worshipping, they are friends.


fantasy looks up to flash, and it's extremely rare for someone older to look up to someone younger in korean culture
kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
January 17 2010 09:57 GMT
#2429
On January 17 2010 18:56 vRoOk wrote:
did anyone else see IdrA in the audience?

from the start bro
8==========))
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
January 17 2010 09:57 GMT
#2430
On January 17 2010 18:55 Itachii wrote:
refresh rate of this thread is incredible o.O


Like all Grand Finals. You have to go back two pages to see if anyone quoted you, and then by the time you write a response, they are 6 pages apart from the original post.
CJ Entusman #24
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 17 2010 09:57 GMT
#2431
On January 17 2010 18:55 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 18:52 PoP wrote:
Terrible terrible execution by Movie in basically everything he attempted.

I disagree. His reaver micro was excellent, remember shuttles have less sight range than tanks have range, often you can't see the shit that kills you. His build was clever and had he not lost his first reaver it would have been devastating. His problem was that as good as he was, Flash was better. It's unfortunate for him that for once the #1 player in the world is the finalist he has to beat. Movie has hugely upped his game for this. Were it any other starleague won by luxury or ggplay etc Movie would lolrape. But for once the finals is an actual contest between two of the best players.

Movie's execution isn't bad except during head on battles. His builds are being executed fine.Then his armies aren't coordinated and he can't pull it off.
Unfortunately for him, battles are kinda important to winning.
Jaedong
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
January 17 2010 09:57 GMT
#2432
I don't think Movie played poorly. You're looking at some of the best defense ever. Basically any other player would've crumbled against the Reaver/DT/Shuttle strategy.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
January 17 2010 09:57 GMT
#2433
On January 17 2010 18:55 cz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 18:54 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On January 17 2010 18:52 cz wrote:
On January 17 2010 18:51 jalstar wrote:
On January 17 2010 18:51 johnnyspazz wrote:
i dont think any templars had mana for storm



they definitely did

Yeah they were out there for a while.
They get 60 (right?) to start. Then they were sitting when those 2 vultures, then they say some more before movie suicided into Flash's push.... they definitely had the mana...


they had been out before the vults found them: the screencaster showed it before. Also that's where their rally point is, not right beside the gate (where they start charging mana).

Just for the record, we're agreeing, right? You're just agreeing with more powerful empiricism.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
kawatan
Profile Joined January 2010
288 Posts
January 17 2010 09:58 GMT
#2434
On January 17 2010 18:54 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 18:53 Smix wrote:
lol seriously looks like an interrogation room
'WHAT HAPPENED. WHY NO STORM'

hahaha yeahhh


High Templar: "I just can't do it, Captain. I don't have the power!"
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6992 Posts
January 17 2010 09:58 GMT
#2435
On January 17 2010 18:57 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 18:56 integral wrote:
Please pay attention, seriously

1. Movie didn't "fail to cast" storm,
2. nor did he forget to upgrade it.
3. A shuttle wouldn't have helped, because
4. Flash did not target templar with tanks or vultures, because
5. FLASH PUSHED BECAUSE HE KNEW THE TEMPLARS DIDNT HAVE ENERGY FOR STORM YET

The HTs were about to cast...

Movie chose to engage, he could've delayed had he not had energy.

He is not a D level player ffs.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 17 2010 09:58 GMT
#2436
Lol... I like the pregame stuff by NeverGG really gives perspective as to whats going on there
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
January 17 2010 09:58 GMT
#2437
On January 17 2010 18:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 18:55 nodule wrote:
those temps were like 10 s away from having enough energy for storm


They had enough energy or movie wouldn't have engaged.


Movie engaged because Flash was about to siege his natural.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 17 2010 09:58 GMT
#2438
On January 17 2010 18:57 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 18:56 538 wrote:
On January 17 2010 18:54 jalstar wrote:
On January 17 2010 18:53 kyzers0ze wrote:
by.movie? flash and movie from the same clan?


and fantasy. movie probably could have practiced against fantasy if fantasy didn't basically worship flash

It's not worshipping, they are friends.


fantasy looks up to flash, and it's extremely rare for someone older to look up to someone younger in korean culture


In any culture actually.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
January 17 2010 09:58 GMT
#2439
On January 17 2010 18:58 kawatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2010 18:54 konadora wrote:
On January 17 2010 18:53 Smix wrote:
lol seriously looks like an interrogation room
'WHAT HAPPENED. WHY NO STORM'

hahaha yeahhh


High Templar: "I just can't do it, Captain. I don't have the power!"

NOT ENOUGH ENERGY
8==========))
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
January 17 2010 09:58 GMT
#2440
Go Movie I believe!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
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