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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7474 Posts
January 09 2010 08:46 GMT
#221
On January 09 2010 17:44 Disregard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 17:43 Katsuge wrote:
strategies are made in accordance with different map.. i dont see why terran shouldnt turtle on this map, since this map is all about map dominance.


For the sake of entertainment, its best to not go Flash like.


Fuck entertainment. If toss don't want to go carrier lategame on this map and want go to arbiters on a map that it is easy to shutdown they deserve to slam into an unbeatable wall.

That is like blaming a zerg on five gas for casting DS in the same spot for 5 minutes at two places while ultra grades finish ... it is how the game works sometimes.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 08:47:58
January 09 2010 08:46 GMT
#222
On January 09 2010 17:46 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 17:44 Disregard wrote:
On January 09 2010 17:43 Katsuge wrote:
strategies are made in accordance with different map.. i dont see why terran shouldnt turtle on this map, since this map is all about map dominance.


For the sake of entertainment, its best to not go Flash like.

Do you ever actually watch any of his games? Such an ignorant statement.


I'am referring to the recent game here.

edit: + Show Spoiler +
Against Best.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
January 09 2010 08:46 GMT
#223
On January 09 2010 17:45 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 17:43 Katsuge wrote:
strategies are made in accordance with different map.. i dont see why terran shouldnt turtle on this map, since this map is all about map dominance.

No one's saying it's bad to do to win, because the players' jobs are to win. But the audience wants entertainment and excitement, which turtling does not offer.

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 17:44 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On January 09 2010 17:36 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 09 2010 17:35 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Lol Kal let the game slip away. So sad.

Match Point is bad for PvT. 8-12+ 1-11 during pre season testing. Because Terrans can use the high pods to spread out everywhere.
I'm not taking anything away from Hwasin, I don't care about either player.

Yea its a tough map for P obviously. Just look at it Terran's dream vs P. But Kal had a real chance that game. He didnt execute very well late game.

I don't know, what could he have done?


unfortunately.
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
January 09 2010 08:46 GMT
#224
Hwasin is 2-0 on this map, 1-0 v P
Kal is 1-0 on this map, hasn't played v T yet
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
January 09 2010 08:47 GMT
#225
Ok, i woke up still in time. Show no mercy Kal!
BW fighting!
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
January 09 2010 08:47 GMT
#226
honestly the game before and this game actually shows in management game kal is the superior player but the way hwasin prepared for this game. Really smart. Kal was abit too agressive at times which did costs him too.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 09 2010 08:47 GMT
#227
On January 09 2010 17:46 Katsuge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 17:45 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 09 2010 17:43 Katsuge wrote:
strategies are made in accordance with different map.. i dont see why terran shouldnt turtle on this map, since this map is all about map dominance.

No one's saying it's bad to do to win, because the players' jobs are to win. But the audience wants entertainment and excitement, which turtling does not offer.

On January 09 2010 17:44 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On January 09 2010 17:36 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 09 2010 17:35 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Lol Kal let the game slip away. So sad.

Match Point is bad for PvT. 8-12+ 1-11 during pre season testing. Because Terrans can use the high pods to spread out everywhere.
I'm not taking anything away from Hwasin, I don't care about either player.

Yea its a tough map for P obviously. Just look at it Terran's dream vs P. But Kal had a real chance that game. He didnt execute very well late game.

I don't know, what could he have done?


unfortunately.

Yes, in the end, it's really the map-makers fault. :/
Jaedong
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 09 2010 08:47 GMT
#228
On January 09 2010 17:46 domane wrote:
Could Kal have played better? I think he could have sniped the CC at 3'oclock (focus firing).

At the time you are referring to he could have merged his two arbiter/goon forces and denied Hwasin the high ground. Since Kal had bases at 5 and 6, once Hwasin took his high ground it got very hard.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 08:48:40
January 09 2010 08:48 GMT
#229
Starting:

Hwasin @ 4
Kal @ 8
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2231 Posts
January 09 2010 08:48 GMT
#230
On January 09 2010 17:46 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 17:44 Disregard wrote:
On January 09 2010 17:43 Katsuge wrote:
strategies are made in accordance with different map.. i dont see why terran shouldnt turtle on this map, since this map is all about map dominance.


For the sake of entertainment, its best to not go Flash like.


Fuck entertainment. If toss don't want to go carrier lategame on this map and want go to arbiters on a map that it is easy to shutdown they deserve to slam into an unbeatable wall.

That is like blaming a zerg on five gas for casting DS in the same spot for 5 minutes at two places while ultra grades finish ... it is how the game works sometimes.

exactly, this map is basically Bluestrom 3.0, why do progamers stick to arbs so much? carriers would be better choice.
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 08:49:19
January 09 2010 08:48 GMT
#231
game 3 up, hard to expect cheese when 2 team mates are playing eachother sadly.. too much mutual respect.

ok fuck that BBS INCOMMING LOL
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 09 2010 08:49 GMT
#232
Cheese!!!
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
January 09 2010 08:49 GMT
#233
BBS from hwasin????!?!?!
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
January 09 2010 08:49 GMT
#234
two scvs moving out for hwasin!
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
January 09 2010 08:49 GMT
#235
Set 2 was so bad, lol
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 09 2010 08:49 GMT
#236
CHEESE
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
January 09 2010 08:49 GMT
#237
here comes the red cheese
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 09 2010 08:49 GMT
#238
yup, bbs it is
Sigi
Profile Joined August 2009
United States243 Posts
January 09 2010 08:49 GMT
#239
BBS!!!
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
January 09 2010 08:49 GMT
#240
BBSSSS I LOVE YOU HWASIN
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