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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
December 17 2009 11:52 GMT
#1121
On December 17 2009 20:49 DoX.) wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 16 2009 14:33 IdrA wrote:
pvp is so funny

they just sit there hurling imbalanced shit at each other




lol
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 11:53:52
December 17 2009 11:53 GMT
#1122
On December 16 2009 14:33 IdrA wrote:
pvp is so funny

they just sit there hurling imbalanced shit at each other


LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
dats racist
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 17 2009 11:55 GMT
#1123
PvP is really a contest of who can be the most gay. Stats goes for DT rush, that's pretty gay. Jangbi however goes for DT rush and proxy gate, that's even more gay = win.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 12:04:06
December 17 2009 12:00 GMT
#1124
Yay
Jangbi/Best gangbang Flash for me please so he doesnt have to play JD kthx?

Idra's quote is gold
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
December 17 2009 12:04 GMT
#1125
On December 17 2009 20:44 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 20:43 Mastermind wrote:
Jangbi wins.

Reasoning?


Just lol...
Juringo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany12 Posts
December 17 2009 12:37 GMT
#1126
On December 17 2009 20:55 Holgerius wrote:
PvP is really a contest of who can be the most gay. Stats goes for DT rush, that's pretty gay. Jangbi however goes for DT rush and proxy gate, that's even more gay = win.



LOL!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 17 2009 12:38 GMT
#1127
This topic is crazy. I read about two pages full of "omg Flash where is your TvZ now??" "nooo, zero too strong for Flash!".
And then after the "gg" I see "Total dominance by Flash".

So was the game close or not?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
December 17 2009 12:45 GMT
#1128
On December 17 2009 21:38 SuperArc wrote:
This topic is crazy. I read about two pages full of "omg Flash where is your TvZ now??" "nooo, zero too strong for Flash!".
And then after the "gg" I see "Total dominance by Flash".

So was the game close or not?


People were being overdramatic. Zero's third gas was delayed for literally 3 minutes and he barely even made it to Flash's half of the map once in the entire game. Flash was sloppier than usual but always completely in control.
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 12:59:55
December 17 2009 12:58 GMT
#1129
The game was pretty good but I don't think it was particularly close. Part of the problem is that anyone who has watched Flash's TvZ run has become accustomed to almost literally perfect play. Flash did not look that way tonight, but I think that its less his fault and more a testament to Zero's good play. Zero had some very creative and excellent vessel snipes and he anticipated a Flash double drop perfectly (he had definitely been watching Flash replays and knew to expect it). The game went something like this:

Zero opens 3 hatch fake muta really going for lurkers. Flash opens 1 rax CC then adds 3 more rax quick just like he's been doing lately. Flash made a tiny error early, he had an mnm control group parked infront of zero's nat when lurkers popped. The lurkers burrowed and nailed about half the control group. Zero moved out with good lurker/ling numbers and scared Flash into putting up 3 bunkers for an attack that never came. Now came the really cool part by Flash. Flash sacrificed quite a lot of units to kill/prevent Zero's 3rd over and over again. This part right here is where Flash swung into the lead even though it wasn't exactly obvious. This put Zero behind slightly and when he got his 3rd/4th gas up he switched to ultra's. Flash had been playing on 2 bases for quite a while and had sacrificed lots of units to control the map/prevent the third and fourth so it appeared as though Flash was behind. This is when the forementioned failed drop happened for Flash, he lost 2 vessels and a dropship. Then Flash turned on god-mode. In the next few minutes he exerted good map pressure while simultaneously double expanding and using drops to keep zero defending and slowing his adding of 5th/6th bases. Once Flash's 4 (or maybe even 5) bases kicked in he put up some facts and added 12 and eventually up to ~20 tanks to his army. It was very reminiscent of Fantasy v Jaedong on outsider with much the same result.
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
December 17 2009 13:41 GMT
#1130
These are BO3 right? somehow we got our Liquibet points already after the first matches?

THE DONG GOING STRONG!

finally a day without upsets in one league atleast.
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
December 17 2009 14:25 GMT
#1131
wow, 4/4 liquibets !!
I agree flash was sloppier, but once again. TvZ pure ownage
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
December 17 2009 14:35 GMT
#1132
So.... if Flash beats Jaedong tonight, he surpasses his own all time ELO high for like.. the 3rd time in 3 weeks? Shit.....rooting for Flash to surpass 2400!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 17 2009 14:55 GMT
#1133
On December 17 2009 20:49 Gangrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 20:15 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On December 17 2009 20:13 SilverskY wrote:
On December 17 2009 20:12 Mastermind wrote:
On December 17 2009 20:10 Rucky wrote:
zero's defense with defiler was as good as a top zerg can get...even jaedong would only defend in the same way.

the only thing that could have worked was to not let flash expand so much, but flash was making sure nothing of that.

I think Zero lost when he let Flash deny his third so many times. The second time he lost his drone was just sloppy play.

Or maybe Flash just played awesome?! O_O


If we're talking about the time that Zero sent the drone in front of his lings in lurkers as he attempted to secure third again, and the rines killed it instantly because it was so far ahead of the pack, then no, that was just sloppy. But the fact that he delayed that third for so damn long so many times was brilliant overall.


Thinking about it that way, it's a miracle ZerO survived that long with his third denied over and over again.

Flash actually sacrificed large portions of his army when he was denying it... it was almost even.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 14:58:41
December 17 2009 14:58 GMT
#1134
On December 17 2009 21:38 SuperArc wrote:
This topic is crazy. I read about two pages full of "omg Flash where is your TvZ now??" "nooo, zero too strong for Flash!".
And then after the "gg" I see "Total dominance by Flash".

So was the game close or not?

In the midgame I think that after Zero got his 4th gas he had a chance to do something, but instead he forgot adrenaline glands and teched to ultras and the T got to 5 bases and Zero died. I don't think he ever was on Flash's half of the map.

EDIT: Gah hate these double posts >< sorry
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
December 17 2009 15:14 GMT
#1135
On December 17 2009 21:04 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 20:44 Scaramanga wrote:
On December 17 2009 20:43 Mastermind wrote:
Jangbi wins.

Reasoning?


Just lol...

Fail post is fail, i posted this when jangbis dt spawned not after the game lol
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
December 17 2009 15:39 GMT
#1136
Get raped Firefist, thats what you get for taking Jaedong v Ruby from us.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
December 17 2009 15:45 GMT
#1137
On December 18 2009 00:39 Gumbo wrote:
Get raped Firefist, thats what you get for taking Jaedong v Ruby from us.


'Cheesing' is a legitimate strategy. What did you want Firefist to do, play standard on a Terran favored map in TvZ against a superior player in that matchup?

It was all or nothing and he was lucky enough for Ruby to spawn close to him. He didn't 'take away' anything, he legitimately won.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
December 17 2009 15:56 GMT
#1138
oh my god I love flash so muchhh

nothing like seeing 12 tanks roll a freaking turtle zerg

you can't out turtle flash punk!

the game was really weird though.. flash denied the third a longggg time, but when zero got it up he basically jumped to 4 gas. It didn't really seem to matter as all he could do was defend flash's attacks, so flash just went to 5 bases and rolled him lolol

it was amazing
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
December 17 2009 16:30 GMT
#1139
I just checked jon747, WTF BEST VS CANATA 50 MINS WTFFFFFFFFFFF
POGGERS
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
December 17 2009 16:38 GMT
#1140
Just watched the vod's off jon747 on youtube, and good games man good games.

Best vs Canata - wtf 50 minutes lol I watched this one last (waiting for it to fully load so i can skip back/forth) but oh man nukes lol. Seriously, Terrans camping with cliff tanks and mass gols and tower defense is pretty gay. Lockdown is gay but sorta cool when combined with nuke.

Flash vs Zero - pretty nice TvZ, Flash did good job denying Zero's 3rd gas (I think) but kind of sloppy losing dropship and vessels here and there, meh, still the monster.

JD vs Firefist - I was like wtf JD 2nd hatch in main, but I see why... JD too good.

Jangbi vs Stats - LOL dt vs dt
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