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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
December 10 2009 14:23 GMT
#661
Effort why are you bad at ZvZ man and why freaking ultra/ling defiler against mech ? Stick to Muta/ hidra with lurker/defiler support for god's sake .
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
December 10 2009 14:23 GMT
#662
On December 10 2009 22:40 TDK wrote:
dammit effort just when I thought u were better than JD you do this...

I´m a CJ fan and I know EffOrt is no better than JD. EffOrt is probably the most solid and constant zerg on par with JD but he lacks that genius touch. That little spark that had he possesed, he wouldn´t be out of both leagues.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
December 10 2009 14:28 GMT
#663
On December 10 2009 23:20 sushiman wrote:
Feels as disappointing as when GoRush was disqualified for accidentally typing 'b' a while ago. Knocking out the only good ACE-player capable of getting far like that really pisses me off.

a

:p
POGGERS
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
December 10 2009 14:29 GMT
#664
Jaedong 4 pooling (or 5) terran --> great move

Firefist 4 pooling terran --> lame move

wtf?
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
December 10 2009 14:40 GMT
#665
On December 10 2009 23:23 RamenStyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 22:40 TDK wrote:
dammit effort just when I thought u were better than JD you do this...

I´m a CJ fan and I know EffOrt is no better than JD. EffOrt is probably the most solid and constant zerg on par with JD but he lacks that genius touch. That little spark that had he possesed, he wouldn´t be out of both leagues.


I'd probably say not so much the genius touch as it is able to prepare for so many games at the same time. His game against Ruby today showed a lot of questionable decision-making, and lost despite showing vastly superior skills and multi-tasking.
Meh
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-10 14:50:20
December 10 2009 14:42 GMT
#666
On December 10 2009 23:23 raga4ka wrote:
Effort why are you bad at ZvZ man and why freaking ultra/ling defiler against mech ? Stick to Muta/ hidra with lurker/defiler support for god's sake .


He got some advice from Savior on how to handle Mech

In other news, all the dragons are back in form and roflstomping zergs again. Except maybe free. Hmm, I think we should replace him with violet or movie.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
December 10 2009 15:01 GMT
#667
Firefist 4 pooling in a bo1 rushing with all 3 drones and rally ling in a do or die game = lameeeee

JD 4 pooling fantasy in a bo5 ... being blocked with bunker and wining with 3 drones mining = PIMP
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 10 2009 15:01 GMT
#668
On December 10 2009 23:42 lone_hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 23:23 raga4ka wrote:
Effort why are you bad at ZvZ man and why freaking ultra/ling defiler against mech ? Stick to Muta/ hidra with lurker/defiler support for god's sake .


He got some advice from Savior on how to handle Mech

In other news, all the dragons are back in form and roflstomping zergs again. Except maybe free. Hmm, I think we should replace him with violet or movie.

No, with Stats you fool.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 10 2009 15:35 GMT
#669
FUCKING FIREFIST!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! RUBY!!!!!!
Brood War loyalist
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
December 10 2009 15:58 GMT
#670
How hilarious would it be if Firefist wins the MSL?
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
December 10 2009 15:59 GMT
#671
Ouch Ruby ><

On the other hand it's nice to see Jangbi and Kal stepping up, kinda makes up for the disaster of Bisu and gives hopes to the sons of Aiur :3
Revolutionist fan
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 10 2009 16:01 GMT
#672
Effort goddangit man.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
December 10 2009 16:01 GMT
#673
On December 10 2009 23:29 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Jaedong 4 pooling (or 5) terran --> great move

Firefist 4 pooling terran --> lame move

wtf?

Yes, because Ruby is hero for many people - he is most promising person from ACE which most people consider "handicapped" team, so if he has to be defeated - we want him to be defeated in some epic fight.

Because you don't like your favorite player being just stomped with some cheesy strat in one-sided fight. Only games when your favorite is defeated that you accept are these ones that he loses after well fought battle. Truth is - he could defend this and win, but he didn't.

Either way the game would be one-sided, depending only on success on this attack, since FireFist commited his drones as well - that's what makes this game unable to be epic.

I'm happy for FF to advance, because i like him, but i am not blindfolded - this was NOT an exciting game as many people were expecting it to be
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 10 2009 16:02 GMT
#674
On December 10 2009 23:29 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Jaedong 4 pooling (or 5) terran --> great move

Firefist 4 pooling terran --> lame move

wtf?


I say this as a gatorade supporter, but there's a few very basic differences.

Jaedong cheesed in a series game which is all about mental advantage. It's like how no one hated July for cheesing Best in their OSL finals -- it was a brilliant mind game. Same goes for Boxer though no one hates boxer.

What firefist did, though, was turn what could've been a very fun 1v1 into a 3 minute game -- no matter what. Cheesing a Bo1 is just a cheap way to take a win/advance, especially when there's lot of things on the line.

By cheesing Ruby he A) Created the ONLY mirror match up as him vs Jaedong, instead of TvJaedong B)Killed what would have been an amazing thing of an Ace player making the Ro16 in MSL C) Ended a very exciting night in a very anti climactic way and D) Robbed us of what SHOULD'VE been a good game in him vs Ruby, because they're both pretty solid players.

When Jaedong 4pooled, it was just a continuance of a dominating series which, at the very least, had one more game to go, and at the most, had 2 more games. Finishing a series with a cheese is just disheartening. It's like ZvZ ace matches -- there's nothing WRONG with ZvZ (analogywise-- there's nothing WRONG with cheesing), it's just annoying that we waited 2 hours for our finale and it ended in 3 minutes.
Remember Violet.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 10 2009 16:22 GMT
#675
GJ GJ Jangbi, well deserved. Hopefully his PvZ is back in shape

also GJ EFFFORTUUUU on always living up to your hype ^__^
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
December 10 2009 16:26 GMT
#676
effort is like sea, an amazing player that can't peform well in individual leagues

it's sad, i hope he can overcome this

PS: I'm really happy jangbi is through, i hope he is back from his slump
BW is back
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
December 10 2009 16:28 GMT
#677
There's a difference between making short work of an inferior opponent, and goinglame to get an undeserved win. JD does the former, Firefist does the latter.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-10 16:43:29
December 10 2009 16:31 GMT
#678
HAHAHAHA JANGBI KICKS BUTT!
and effort dropping out of both leagues again, except this time much ealrier.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 10 2009 16:56 GMT
#679
On December 11 2009 01:31 MuffinDude wrote:
HAHAHAHA JANGBI KICKS BUTT!
and effort dropping out of both leagues again, except this time much ealrier.


not by his previous OSL standard
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
ftr.midnight
Profile Joined August 2009
Russian Federation150 Posts
December 10 2009 16:59 GMT
#680
On December 11 2009 01:02 TwoToneTerran wrote:
By cheesing Ruby he A) Created the ONLY mirror match up as him vs Jaedong, instead of TvJaedong


Sorry, but you are mistaken.
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