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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
November 20 2009 18:36 GMT
#401
Bad groups for Stork and Fantasy. Great group for JD and Hwasin.

My predictions:
JD/Pusan
Pure/Hwasin
Calm/Fantasy
Flash/Stork (Voting Stork with my heart. My mind says Type-B :-S)
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
November 20 2009 19:42 GMT
#402
On November 20 2009 21:14 Jenia6109 wrote:

(Z)YellOw[ArnC], (P)Pure, (Z)ZerO, (T)Hwasin
Group B is the easiest group full of mediocre players. I even will not try to predict which of them will advance...


Seriously? That's an somewhat of an insult to these players skill & accomplishments.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
November 20 2009 20:10 GMT
#403
group C and D make me cry

group B is lameeeeee

How does JD always net such a good group? oh wait cause hes better than everyone I guess...


I really hope stork/flash advance out of group D.. its like all I care about.
maneatingshoe
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada484 Posts
November 20 2009 20:18 GMT
#404
Group A
(Z)Jaedong and(P)Movie

Group B
(P)Pure and (Z)ZerO

Group C
(Z)Calm and (Z)EffOrt

Group D
(P)Stork and (T)Flash

It looks like all my favorite players have a chance to make it out of the group stages! XD People keep ripping on group B, but ZerO and Pure are both pretty fun players to watch. I really hope we get to see some JD/Flash action this OSL (with flash coming out on top of course). I don't think many of the Terran players will make it out of their group though...sadface for loss of diversity
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
November 20 2009 21:06 GMT
#405
On November 21 2009 03:04 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 02:23 LunarDestiny wrote:
OSL round of 16 without a group of death...


Group C looks like a group of death to me.

Calm, Fantasy and Effort are all border S/high A class players

And at least one of them will be eliminated.

Stork looks like the only one who can take a game from Flash in group D. I expect both Flash and Stork to get out of D 2-1.

Jaedong got this easy.

Group B seems to be more even in term of skill level.


Kinda sad thought i wanted Effort Calm and Fantasy to make it to the next round and i just started likeing Shine with his stomping over Bisu and all .... Well whoever makes it i would be happy .
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
November 20 2009 21:21 GMT
#406
I like how everyone forgot that just as Stork is capable of beating any Zerg on any given day, he's also fully capable of losing miserably.

I wouldn't be surprised with any of the possible results from Stork (0-3 to 3-0)
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
November 20 2009 21:23 GMT
#407
On November 21 2009 06:21 darktreb wrote:
I like how everyone forgot that just as Stork is capable of beating any Zerg on any given day, he's also fully capable of losing miserably.

I wouldn't be surprised with any of the possible results from Stork (0-3 to 3-0)


The same can be said of Flash... I still remember how hard he got owned in the last OSL ro16.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
November 20 2009 21:26 GMT
#408
On November 21 2009 06:23 lone_hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 06:21 darktreb wrote:
I like how everyone forgot that just as Stork is capable of beating any Zerg on any given day, he's also fully capable of losing miserably.

I wouldn't be surprised with any of the possible results from Stork (0-3 to 3-0)


The same can be said of Flash... I still remember how hard he got owned in the last OSL ro16.

Yeah but that's because FlaSh was being stubborn and wouldn't build turrets. lol
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 22:15:03
November 20 2009 22:13 GMT
#409
Flash and stork in the same group? Hope both of them makes it out.

On November 21 2009 03:36 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Bad groups for Stork and Fantasy. Great group for JD and Hwasin.

My predictions:
JD/Pusan
Pure/Hwasin
Calm/Fantasy
Flash/Stork (Voting Stork with my heart. My mind says Type-B :-S)

Have you watched stork play pvz recently? Cause if you still think type b still ahs a chance, theres something wrong with you.
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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
November 20 2009 22:23 GMT
#410
On November 21 2009 04:42 haster27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 21:14 Jenia6109 wrote:

(Z)YellOw[ArnC], (P)Pure, (Z)ZerO, (T)Hwasin
Group B is the easiest group full of mediocre players. I even will not try to predict which of them will advance...


Seriously? That's an somewhat of an insult to these players skill & accomplishments.



Doesn't mean it's not actually the easiest group :/



I think Fantasy is in real trouble. His situation is like FireBathero sticking himself in an all protoss group. On second thought, he'll be fine.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 23:42:37
November 20 2009 23:08 GMT
#411
Group A: I feel a little sorry for (P)Movie. He's going to have to put his PvT and PvP together if he wants to advance, because his sublime PvZ may not be enough against a player as great as (Z)Jaedong, who will be the group leader. That said, Movie's saving grace is that (T)go.go has poor TvP, and that the group's fourth member, (P)Pusan, is the weakest member of the group, by quite a lot. I think Movie squeaks by, because he'll have the practice and the confidence of playing every day in proleague, but this is not the group he wanted.

Jaedong, Movie

Group B: This group is similar to Group A, but without the big name of Jaedong. Instead, the talent is more evened out, and predicting the winner in this group with certainty is damn near impossible. The group's seed, (Z)YellOw[ArnC] has been slumping something terrible this season, and with his recent displays of futility, it's hard to see him advancing here. This is a point in (Z)ZerO's favor, because the underrated Woongjin zerg's weak ZvZ should get a pass, while his superb ZvT and ZvP will be more than a match for (T)Hwasin and (P)Pure. The second spot in this group will likely go to the winner between these two, but if Yellow[ArnC] plays the spoiler, he's most likely to topple the terran. Pure's play has been impressive lately, he has a slight edge for the last spot in the round of 8.

ZerO, Pure

Group C: This is it. The unquestioned group of death, is not only filled with three of the top 6 or so players in BW, but it will provide (T)fantasy OSL TvZ action, and (Z)EffOrt and (Z)Calm facing off in ZvZ. This leaves (Z)Shine, a vastly overrated cheesy zerg, in the lurch, but all manner of things could theoretically happen here. EffOrt has an edge in ZvZ over Calm based on recent results, so I see him coming out of this group. fantasy's OSL form is too good to be denied, he should advance as well, his seed depending on his match against EffOrt. I'd give him slight odds to top this group.

fantasy, EffOrt

Group D: The last two groups are close to call, but there is only really one obvious pick for the winners of Group D. Both (T)Flash and (P)Stork have been in fine form lately, especially against zerg. (Z)type-b and (Z)Kwanro have respectable records in ZvP and ZvT, but both are nowhere near the big two here. If either zerg advances, it'll be a huge upset. Given Flash's current weakness in TvP, Stork is the likely first place winner here.

Stork, Flash
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 20 2009 23:27 GMT
#412
Really hope Effort gets his ZvZ revenge against Clam

not that I dislike Clam, but Effort needs his revenge
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
November 20 2009 23:31 GMT
#413
lol fantasy is in trouble if his vulture drops dont work every time
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
November 21 2009 00:09 GMT
#414
On November 21 2009 01:39 dukethegold wrote:
How did Fantasy end up in an all Zerg group? O.o

It's like the exactly same situation with Hwasin's MSL group, except the terran is on the receiving end this time.

With that said, you have to realize that 30% of Fantasy's losses to Zerg come from Jaedong, and he is 6 to 7 against Jaedong.

With that said, with Calm and Effort in his group, this is pretty scary.

Take out Fantasy's games against Jaedong, it raises his TvZ by 2 percent to 55.5%.
Arf
aG.Admirai
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada55 Posts
November 21 2009 00:17 GMT
#415
no bisu! oh no! =0
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
November 21 2009 02:58 GMT
#416
On November 21 2009 02:24 KP_CollectoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2009 01:18 Musoeun wrote:

Here's my take on fantasy: he's a fast player, but not a "solid" one. In this he takes after Boxer far more than oov, of his two mentors.


I was under the impression that fantasy was actually quite slow. In all of his replays, when he's coasting and there's no action - he's actually the slowest progamer I've seen by far. I don't mean this as a negative thing, in fact I find it awsesome that he can be a top player without meeting the apm "requirements" For that reason I think he's more like oov, but I feel he lacks the genius economy management that oov and Flash seem to have. Interesting observations though.


I honestly don't really pay attention to APM that much; what I meant by him being a "fast" playing is that he's always pushing the game, pulling out the next tech choice, harassing, trying to be a step ahead of his opponent. The obvious contrast is Flash, who seems more content to harass a little, but sit back and build up.
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InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
November 21 2009 03:10 GMT
#417
Looking forward to Stork vs Flash.
Stork protoss legend
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
November 21 2009 03:41 GMT
#418
On November 21 2009 04:42 haster27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 21:14 Jenia6109 wrote:

(Z)YellOw[ArnC], (P)Pure, (Z)ZerO, (T)Hwasin
Group B is the easiest group full of mediocre players. I even will not try to predict which of them will advance...


Seriously? That's an somewhat of an insult to these players skill & accomplishments.

What accomplishments -.- That is by far the easiest group
Group A minus Jaedong could be easier, but the "accomplishments" of all four players in group B sums up to all of 1 silver medal. thats it.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
November 21 2009 03:48 GMT
#419
Group A is the easiest group, there's Jaedong and then the rest doesn't compare to what's in Group B.
Zero fighting.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
November 21 2009 03:49 GMT
#420
hwasin tvz/zero zvp/yarnc zvt/pure pvp is definitely not "mediocre", they're just not well-rounded enough to win any SLs
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