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Bifur
Russian Federation1208 Posts
On November 20 2009 20:46 Highways wrote: Group C: Fantsay could be in trouble here. Effort and Calm are red hot right now. You are talking about FANTASY here. This guy doesn't have guts to play BoX, but in every single game against a zerg he is a clear favourite. go.go would be in trouble if he was in group C, Fantasy is ok. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On November 20 2009 20:46 Highways wrote: Apart from Jaedong, groups A and B seem quite even. Group C: Fantsay could be in trouble here. Effort and Calm are red hot right now. Group D: Another tough group. Possibly group of death along side C. Fantasy can solely practise on TvZ with the help of Boxer and Oov. So it shouldn't be too bad. Only if he could work a bit on his game sense (and nerves) ... only ... if ... *sigh* | ||
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Zholistic
Australia278 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On November 20 2009 20:59 Bifur wrote: You are talking about FANTASY here. This guy doesn't have guts to play BoX, but in every single game against a zerg he is a clear favourite. go.go would be in trouble if he was in group C, Fantasy is ok. When your overall winning percentage is barely over 50%, I wouldn't say you're the favourite in every single game. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On November 20 2009 20:58 bugus wrote: jaedong has no z in his grouping. guess he wants to vs them in play-offs Or perhaps he's sick of being played zvz all the time | ||
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Bifur
Russian Federation1208 Posts
On November 20 2009 20:54 JohnBall wrote: So the groups are:  Jaedong,  Pusan,  go.go., MovieYellOw[ArnC], Pure, ZerO, Hwasinfantasy, Calm, Shine, EffOrttype-b, Stork, Kwanro, FlashThis OSL looks very promising for Jaedong: he will cruise through his group with ease and then will be playing mostly ZvZ. His two Nemesises fantasy and Flash have good chances to be burned in their groups, and Jaedong will have a clear road to another gold. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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Jenia6109
Russian Federation1613 Posts
Jaedong, Pusan, go.go., MovieGroup A has 1 clear favourite Jaedong and 1 clear outsider go.go. So main battle will be between Movie and Pusan (go go Movie !  )YellOw[ArnC], Pure, ZerO, HwasinGroup B is the easiest group full of mediocre players. I even will not try to predict which of them will advance... fantasy, Calm, Shine, EffOrtGroup of Death #1. 3 Favourites and lately rising Shine (though he will not play ZvP). Although fantasy didn't play well lately i think he will not throw games off so easily. And of course his TvZ is art! type-b, Stork, Kwanro, FlashGroupt of Death #2. Two favourites Stork and Flash versus #3-4 OSL type-b and #2 MSL Kwanro. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8093 Posts
On November 20 2009 21:10 Bifur wrote: This OSL looks very promising for Jaedong: he will cruise through his group with ease and then will be playing mostly ZvZ. His two Nemesises fantasy and Flash have good chances to be burned in their groups, and Jaedong will have a clear road to another gold.I understand fantasy but with kwanro and type-b flash isnt going to rape them silly? do you have logic or is this just blind fanboyism :\ | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On November 20 2009 21:14 Jenia6109 wrote: So, groups are unbalanced as always Jaedong, Pusan, go.go., MovieGroup A has 1 clear favourite Jaedong and 1 clear outsider go.go. So main battle will be between Movie and Pusan (go go Movie ! )YellOw[ArnC], Pure, ZerO, HwasinGroup B is the easiest group full of mediocre players. I even will not try to predict which of them will advance... fantasy, Calm, Shine, EffOrtGroup of Death #1. 3 Favourites and lately rising Shine (though he will not play ZvP). Although fantasy didn't play well lately i think he will not throw games off so easily. And of course his TvZ is art! type-b, Stork, Kwanro, FlashGroupt of Death #2. Two favourites Stork and Flash versus #3-4 OSL type-b and #2 MSL Kwanro.ZerO is pretty hot lately... I would expect him or Hwasin to take this group | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On November 20 2009 21:17 Scaramanga wrote: I understand fantasy but with kwanro and type-b flash isnt going to rape them silly? do you have logic or is this just blind fanboyism :\ Both zergs have ZvT as strongest matchup. Thinking Flash would rape them silly is more like blind fanboyism. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On November 20 2009 21:17 Scaramanga wrote: I understand fantasy but with kwanro and type-b flash isnt going to rape them silly? do you have logic or is this just blind fanboyism :\ Don't know man i know Flash is playing amazing TvZ bio right now , but its Kwanro and Type - B so expect all - in ling rushes 2 hat muta and lurker galore . | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8093 Posts
On November 20 2009 21:21 SuperArc wrote: Both zergs have ZvT as strongest matchup. Thinking Flash would rape them silly is more like blind fanboyism. Lets take a look through time and space at tlpd This is his record vs Z from this season Flash's TvZ stats wow thats massive blind fanboyism | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On November 20 2009 20:59 Bifur wrote: You are talking about FANTASY here. This guy doesn't have guts to play BoX, but in every single game against a zerg he is a clear favourite. go.go would be in trouble if he was in group C, Fantasy is ok. Clearly consistently deep runs in the OSL are a symptom of being unable to play BoX. | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
On November 20 2009 21:26 Scaramanga wrote: Lets take a look through time and space at tlpd This is his record vs Z from this season Flash's TvZ stats wow thats massive blind fanboyism Yeah, I think that after Kwanro, Flash took a hard look at his TvZ and fixed it up. | ||
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Bifur
Russian Federation1208 Posts
On November 20 2009 21:17 Scaramanga wrote: I understand fantasy but with kwanro and type-b flash isnt going to rape them silly? do you have logic or is this just blind fanboyism :\ Don't forget that this was nobody else but Kwanro who eliminated Flash from previous MSL. type-b statistics in ZvT is 63.16% And moreover Flash has one of the best PvT'ers of all time in his group too. | ||
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JohnBall
Brazil1272 Posts
Group A: Jaedong and Movie Group B: Pure and ZerO Group C: fantasy and Calm Group D: Stork and Flash Pretty good player selection here. | ||
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
Group B: Hwasin is facing two zergs, and with his MSL group having other 3 zergs, his practice schedule will be quite simple and he is a favorite here. Yarnc is always a menace, but ZerO has being tearing it up lately, and he is the most likely other choice. In my heart, I wish Pure would be the one accompanying Hwasin, but he is still a question mark. Group C: This is definitey the group of death. Everyone here is top dog, even Shine, who after an embarrassing debut against Iris, has picked up his pace and has been cruising thru the PL. Fantasy has toned it down a little, but the OSL owns him another shot at the title, and this might be a first step. Not much to say about the remaining two, Calm and EffOrt, the only two zergs who represent a real threat at the moment to JD´s throne as zerg overmind. Group D: This has a clear favorite to win it all, Flash, and another one to crush everyone except Flash, our very own silver master Stork. However, people should watch out for the other two. Kwanro is the master in senselessly bumping his head into walls, but eventaully even the thickest wall is bound to break if Kwanro hits it with his head enough times. The other one is Type-B, who is one of the most underrated zergs. Many think he is a one hit wonder, and he has a very tough test to proof himself. Personally I hope FLash and Stork make it, but Type-B shouldn´t be dismissed from the start, and even if he doesn´t make it this OSL, I´m almost sure he is going to prove wrong all those who tagged him as a fluke. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On November 20 2009 21:21 SuperArc wrote: Both zergs have ZvT as strongest matchup. Thinking Flash would rape them silly is more like blind fanboyism. The way Flash has been playing TvZ this season, rape is to be expected. Look at the difference in his last game with Kwanro compared to their encounter last MSL. Flash TvZ is really fresh and hot as hell. | ||
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QuanChi
Brazil133 Posts
On November 20 2009 21:14 Jenia6109 wrote: YellOw[ArnC], Pure, ZerO, HwasinGroup B is the easiest group full of mediocre players. I even will not try to predict which of them will advance... Clearly you don't have any idea of what you are talking about. | ||
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