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Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 12:00:56
November 20 2009 11:59 GMT
#341
On November 20 2009 20:46 Highways wrote:
Group C: Fantsay could be in trouble here. Effort and Calm are red hot right now.

You are talking about FANTASY here. This guy doesn't have guts to play BoX, but in every single game against a zerg he is a clear favourite. go.go would be in trouble if he was in group C, Fantasy is ok.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 20 2009 12:01 GMT
#342
On November 20 2009 20:46 Highways wrote:
Apart from Jaedong, groups A and B seem quite even.

Group C: Fantsay could be in trouble here. Effort and Calm are red hot right now.

Group D: Another tough group. Possibly group of death along side C.

Fantasy can solely practise on TvZ with the help of Boxer and Oov. So it shouldn't be too bad. Only if he could work a bit on his game sense (and nerves) ... only ... if ... *sigh*
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Zholistic
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia278 Posts
November 20 2009 12:03 GMT
#343
Yeah fantasy vs Z > everything but 2 hatch muta
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 20 2009 12:03 GMT
#344
On November 20 2009 20:59 Bifur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 20:46 Highways wrote:
Group C: Fantsay could be in trouble here. Effort and Calm are red hot right now.

You are talking about FANTASY here. This guy doesn't have guts to play BoX, but in every single game against a zerg he is a clear favourite. go.go would be in trouble if he was in group C, Fantasy is ok.

When your overall winning percentage is barely over 50%, I wouldn't say you're the favourite in every single game.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 20 2009 12:04 GMT
#345
On November 20 2009 20:58 bugus wrote:
jaedong has no z in his grouping. guess he wants to vs them in play-offs


Or perhaps he's sick of being played zvz all the time
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 12:11:09
November 20 2009 12:10 GMT
#346
On November 20 2009 20:54 JohnBall wrote:
So the groups are:
(Z)Jaedong, (P)Pusan, (T)go.go., (P)Movie
(Z)YellOw[ArnC], (P)Pure, (Z)ZerO, (T)Hwasin
(T)fantasy, (Z)Calm, (Z)Shine, (Z)EffOrt
(Z)type-b, (P)Stork, (Z)Kwanro, (T)Flash

This OSL looks very promising for (Z)Jaedong: he will cruise through his group with ease and then will be playing mostly ZvZ. His two Nemesises (T)fantasy and (T)Flash have good chances to be burned in their groups, and (Z)Jaedong will have a clear road to another gold.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 20 2009 12:12 GMT
#347
Group C is gonna be epic.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
November 20 2009 12:14 GMT
#348
So, groups are unbalanced as always

(Z)Jaedong, (P)Pusan, (T)go.go., (P)Movie
Group A has 1 clear favourite (Z)Jaedong and 1 clear outsider (T)go.go. So main battle will be between (P)Movie and (P)Pusan (go go (P)Movie ! )

(Z)YellOw[ArnC], (P)Pure, (Z)ZerO, (T)Hwasin
Group B is the easiest group full of mediocre players. I even will not try to predict which of them will advance...

(T)fantasy, (Z)Calm, (Z)Shine, (Z)EffOrt
Group of Death #1. 3 Favourites and lately rising (Z)Shine (though he will not play ZvP). Although (T)fantasy didn't play well lately i think he will not throw games off so easily. And of course his TvZ is art!

(Z)type-b, (P)Stork, (Z)Kwanro, (T)Flash
Groupt of Death #2. Two favourites (P)Stork and (T)Flash versus #3-4 OSL (Z)type-b and #2 MSL (Z)Kwanro.
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
November 20 2009 12:17 GMT
#349
On November 20 2009 21:10 Bifur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 20:54 JohnBall wrote:
So the groups are:
(Z)Jaedong, (P)Pusan, (T)go.go., (P)Movie
(Z)YellOw[ArnC], (P)Pure, (Z)ZerO, (T)Hwasin
(T)fantasy, (Z)Calm, (Z)Shine, (Z)EffOrt
(Z)type-b, (P)Stork, (Z)Kwanro, (T)Flash

This OSL looks very promising for (Z)Jaedong: he will cruise through his group with ease and then will be playing mostly ZvZ. His two Nemesises (T)fantasy and (T)Flash have good chances to be burned in their groups, and (Z)Jaedong will have a clear road to another gold.

I understand fantasy but with kwanro and type-b flash isnt going to rape them silly? do you have logic or is this just blind fanboyism
:\
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 20 2009 12:21 GMT
#350
On November 20 2009 21:14 Jenia6109 wrote:
So, groups are unbalanced as always

(Z)Jaedong, (P)Pusan, (T)go.go., (P)Movie
Group A has 1 clear favourite (Z)Jaedong and 1 clear outsider (T)go.go. So main battle will be between (P)Movie and (P)Pusan (go go (P)Movie ! )

(Z)YellOw[ArnC], (P)Pure, (Z)ZerO, (T)Hwasin
Group B is the easiest group full of mediocre players. I even will not try to predict which of them will advance...

(T)fantasy, (Z)Calm, (Z)Shine, (Z)EffOrt
Group of Death #1. 3 Favourites and lately rising (Z)Shine (though he will not play ZvP). Although (T)fantasy didn't play well lately i think he will not throw games off so easily. And of course his TvZ is art!

(Z)type-b, (P)Stork, (Z)Kwanro, (T)Flash
Groupt of Death #2. Two favourites (P)Stork and (T)Flash versus #3-4 OSL (Z)type-b and #2 MSL (Z)Kwanro.



ZerO is pretty hot lately... I would expect him or Hwasin to take this group
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 20 2009 12:21 GMT
#351
On November 20 2009 21:17 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 21:10 Bifur wrote:
On November 20 2009 20:54 JohnBall wrote:
So the groups are:
(Z)Jaedong, (P)Pusan, (T)go.go., (P)Movie
(Z)YellOw[ArnC], (P)Pure, (Z)ZerO, (T)Hwasin
(T)fantasy, (Z)Calm, (Z)Shine, (Z)EffOrt
(Z)type-b, (P)Stork, (Z)Kwanro, (T)Flash

This OSL looks very promising for (Z)Jaedong: he will cruise through his group with ease and then will be playing mostly ZvZ. His two Nemesises (T)fantasy and (T)Flash have good chances to be burned in their groups, and (Z)Jaedong will have a clear road to another gold.

I understand fantasy but with kwanro and type-b flash isnt going to rape them silly? do you have logic or is this just blind fanboyism
:\


Both zergs have ZvT as strongest matchup. Thinking Flash would rape them silly is more like blind fanboyism.
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
November 20 2009 12:24 GMT
#352
On November 20 2009 21:17 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 21:10 Bifur wrote:
On November 20 2009 20:54 JohnBall wrote:
So the groups are:
(Z)Jaedong, (P)Pusan, (T)go.go., (P)Movie
(Z)YellOw[ArnC], (P)Pure, (Z)ZerO, (T)Hwasin
(T)fantasy, (Z)Calm, (Z)Shine, (Z)EffOrt
(Z)type-b, (P)Stork, (Z)Kwanro, (T)Flash

This OSL looks very promising for (Z)Jaedong: he will cruise through his group with ease and then will be playing mostly ZvZ. His two Nemesises (T)fantasy and (T)Flash have good chances to be burned in their groups, and (Z)Jaedong will have a clear road to another gold.

I understand fantasy but with kwanro and type-b flash isnt going to rape them silly? do you have logic or is this just blind fanboyism
:\


Don't know man i know Flash is playing amazing TvZ bio right now , but its Kwanro and Type - B so expect all - in ling rushes 2 hat muta and lurker galore .
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 12:27:27
November 20 2009 12:26 GMT
#353
On November 20 2009 21:21 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 21:17 Scaramanga wrote:
On November 20 2009 21:10 Bifur wrote:
On November 20 2009 20:54 JohnBall wrote:
So the groups are:
(Z)Jaedong, (P)Pusan, (T)go.go., (P)Movie
(Z)YellOw[ArnC], (P)Pure, (Z)ZerO, (T)Hwasin
(T)fantasy, (Z)Calm, (Z)Shine, (Z)EffOrt
(Z)type-b, (P)Stork, (Z)Kwanro, (T)Flash

This OSL looks very promising for (Z)Jaedong: he will cruise through his group with ease and then will be playing mostly ZvZ. His two Nemesises (T)fantasy and (T)Flash have good chances to be burned in their groups, and (Z)Jaedong will have a clear road to another gold.

I understand fantasy but with kwanro and type-b flash isnt going to rape them silly? do you have logic or is this just blind fanboyism
:\


Both zergs have ZvT as strongest matchup. Thinking Flash would rape them silly is more like blind fanboyism.

Lets take a look through time and space at tlpd
This is his record vs Z from this season Flash's TvZ stats wow thats massive blind fanboyism
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
November 20 2009 12:28 GMT
#354
On November 20 2009 20:59 Bifur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 20:46 Highways wrote:
Group C: Fantsay could be in trouble here. Effort and Calm are red hot right now.

You are talking about FANTASY here. This guy doesn't have guts to play BoX, but in every single game against a zerg he is a clear favourite. go.go would be in trouble if he was in group C, Fantasy is ok.


Clearly consistently deep runs in the OSL are a symptom of being unable to play BoX.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 12:29:42
November 20 2009 12:29 GMT
#355
On November 20 2009 21:26 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 21:21 SuperArc wrote:
On November 20 2009 21:17 Scaramanga wrote:
On November 20 2009 21:10 Bifur wrote:
On November 20 2009 20:54 JohnBall wrote:
So the groups are:
(Z)Jaedong, (P)Pusan, (T)go.go., (P)Movie
(Z)YellOw[ArnC], (P)Pure, (Z)ZerO, (T)Hwasin
(T)fantasy, (Z)Calm, (Z)Shine, (Z)EffOrt
(Z)type-b, (P)Stork, (Z)Kwanro, (T)Flash

This OSL looks very promising for (Z)Jaedong: he will cruise through his group with ease and then will be playing mostly ZvZ. His two Nemesises (T)fantasy and (T)Flash have good chances to be burned in their groups, and (Z)Jaedong will have a clear road to another gold.

I understand fantasy but with kwanro and type-b flash isnt going to rape them silly? do you have logic or is this just blind fanboyism
:\


Both zergs have ZvT as strongest matchup. Thinking Flash would rape them silly is more like blind fanboyism.

Lets take a look through time and space at tlpd
This is his record vs Z from this season Flash's TvZ stats wow thats massive blind fanboyism

Yeah, I think that after Kwanro, Flash took a hard look at his TvZ and fixed it up.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-20 12:30:51
November 20 2009 12:29 GMT
#356
On November 20 2009 21:17 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 21:10 Bifur wrote:
On November 20 2009 20:54 JohnBall wrote:
So the groups are:
(Z)Jaedong, (P)Pusan, (T)go.go., (P)Movie
(Z)YellOw[ArnC], (P)Pure, (Z)ZerO, (T)Hwasin
(T)fantasy, (Z)Calm, (Z)Shine, (Z)EffOrt
(Z)type-b, (P)Stork, (Z)Kwanro, (T)Flash

This OSL looks very promising for (Z)Jaedong: he will cruise through his group with ease and then will be playing mostly ZvZ. His two Nemesises (T)fantasy and (T)Flash have good chances to be burned in their groups, and (Z)Jaedong will have a clear road to another gold.

I understand fantasy but with kwanro and type-b flash isnt going to rape them silly? do you have logic or is this just blind fanboyism
:\

Don't forget that this was nobody else but Kwanro who eliminated Flash from previous MSL.

type-b statistics in ZvT is 63.16%

And moreover Flash has one of the best PvT'ers of all time in his group too.
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
November 20 2009 12:30 GMT
#357
Predictions:
Group A: Jaedong and Movie
Group B: Pure and ZerO
Group C: fantasy and Calm
Group D: Stork and Flash

Pretty good player selection here.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
November 20 2009 12:33 GMT
#358
Group A: I think Jaedong is going thru for sure, and while Movie is the more likely choice, Pusan could go Spirit Apeshit mode and make it, or even go.go can pull some of his gay crap and take the remaining spot.

Group B: Hwasin is facing two zergs, and with his MSL group having other 3 zergs, his practice schedule will be quite simple and he is a favorite here. Yarnc is always a menace, but ZerO has being tearing it up lately, and he is the most likely other choice. In my heart, I wish Pure would be the one accompanying Hwasin, but he is still a question mark.

Group C: This is definitey the group of death. Everyone here is top dog, even Shine, who after an embarrassing debut against Iris, has picked up his pace and has been cruising thru the PL. Fantasy has toned it down a little, but the OSL owns him another shot at the title, and this might be a first step. Not much to say about the remaining two, Calm and EffOrt, the only two zergs who represent a real threat at the moment to JD´s throne as zerg overmind.

Group D: This has a clear favorite to win it all, Flash, and another one to crush everyone except Flash, our very own silver master Stork. However, people should watch out for the other two. Kwanro is the master in senselessly bumping his head into walls, but eventaully even the thickest wall is bound to break if Kwanro hits it with his head enough times. The other one is Type-B, who is one of the most underrated zergs. Many think he is a one hit wonder, and he has a very tough test to proof himself. Personally I hope FLash and Stork make it, but Type-B shouldn´t be dismissed from the start, and even if he doesn´t make it this OSL, I´m almost sure he is going to prove wrong all those who tagged him as a fluke.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 20 2009 12:38 GMT
#359
On November 20 2009 21:21 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 21:17 Scaramanga wrote:
On November 20 2009 21:10 Bifur wrote:
On November 20 2009 20:54 JohnBall wrote:
So the groups are:
(Z)Jaedong, (P)Pusan, (T)go.go., (P)Movie
(Z)YellOw[ArnC], (P)Pure, (Z)ZerO, (T)Hwasin
(T)fantasy, (Z)Calm, (Z)Shine, (Z)EffOrt
(Z)type-b, (P)Stork, (Z)Kwanro, (T)Flash

This OSL looks very promising for (Z)Jaedong: he will cruise through his group with ease and then will be playing mostly ZvZ. His two Nemesises (T)fantasy and (T)Flash have good chances to be burned in their groups, and (Z)Jaedong will have a clear road to another gold.

I understand fantasy but with kwanro and type-b flash isnt going to rape them silly? do you have logic or is this just blind fanboyism
:\


Both zergs have ZvT as strongest matchup. Thinking Flash would rape them silly is more like blind fanboyism.

The way Flash has been playing TvZ this season, rape is to be expected. Look at the difference in his last game with Kwanro compared to their encounter last MSL. Flash TvZ is really fresh and hot as hell.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
QuanChi
Profile Joined February 2003
Brazil133 Posts
November 20 2009 13:01 GMT
#360
On November 20 2009 21:14 Jenia6109 wrote:
(Z)YellOw[ArnC], (P)Pure, (Z)ZerO, (T)Hwasin
Group B is the easiest group full of mediocre players. I even will not try to predict which of them will advance...

Clearly you don't have any idea of what you are talking about.
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