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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
October 31 2009 06:53 GMT
#901
On October 31 2009 15:49 Disregard wrote:
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On October 31 2009 15:43 konadora wrote:

On October 31 2009 15:37 Disregard wrote:
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I voted ACE.


Right on BRO!!! + Show Spoiler +
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YEAH!
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
October 31 2009 06:55 GMT
#902
On October 31 2009 15:40 SuperArc wrote:
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On October 31 2009 15:37 darktreb wrote:
On October 31 2009 15:33 JWD wrote:
On October 31 2009 15:32 NeoOmega wrote:
Glimpses of brilliance but overall just too much inexperience. Oz is banking on the future, knowing that they will never win proleague without clutch play from people other that Jaedong.

Oz should be developing players other than JD, but why someone as inexperienced and unsuccessful as killer? Why not someone like HiyA or Lomo?


Because maybe he shows the most potential in practice? Because Lomo and Hiya have shown that they can be good at times but will never be great? Because there could be all kinds of a reasons a great coach like Oz's Cho who has proven himself time and time again might see something?

I love how many people here are just talking out of their asses. Oz has ZERO chance of winning PL finals which is by the way TEN MONTHS FROM NOW if they just ride the JD train all the way there again. They're taking a big chance trying to cultivate other players because they want to win the finals, and they might fall hard on their faces in the process.

Big risk -> big reward or big failure ... SKT1 went 4-7 in the first round last year, let's not go nuts here. Season's not over at all.


zero chances? I know Oz reached the finals thanks to Jaedong, but lets not forget they lost the finals because of Jaedong too.

Oz actually delievered in Bo7s...


Yes, zero is an exaggeration, but I feel like they have very little chance if they don't find another star.

Oz was already sputtering by the time they reached the finals. They rode a huge lead from the early season, as well as maps like Raid Assault and Battle Royal guaranteeing them wins back when JvZ was still in effect, into second place and ninja'd a win against CJ (they certainly deserved it, but they did lose 4-0 on day 2...)

They put up a great fight in the finals (I was rooting for them) but a lot of teams were on the upswing last year (CJ, STX, even SKT1) and with KT looking like an entirely new team already, do you really think Oz is going to make it back again if they just keep doing the same old thing?
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
October 31 2009 06:56 GMT
#903
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Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
October 31 2009 06:56 GMT
#904
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thanks cho
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
October 31 2009 06:56 GMT
#905
killer didnt even get a 50% winrate in minor league last year despite playing 20+ games, oz is really screwed if hes their only developing player
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
October 31 2009 06:58 GMT
#906
I'm sad.
Jaedong
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
October 31 2009 06:58 GMT
#907
jaedong won

oz lost cus of fat face jo

yellow lost deservedly but ace won

man the result is great, so how come it's still just sad... that kid's just getting stomped into the ground
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EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
October 31 2009 07:00 GMT
#908
This outcome was worse than the last Naruto, and that's saying something.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
October 31 2009 07:01 GMT
#909
On October 31 2009 15:56 Sadistx wrote:
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fucking...excellent.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
October 31 2009 07:02 GMT
#910
On October 31 2009 16:00 EvoChamber wrote:
This outcome was worse than the last Naruto, and that's saying something.

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Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
October 31 2009 07:04 GMT
#911
Sadistx, good one
bias-
Profile Joined October 2004
United States410 Posts
October 31 2009 07:06 GMT
#912
Someone put Killer on suicide watch. Effective immediately.
For serious minds, a bias recognized is a bias sterilized.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
October 31 2009 07:07 GMT
#913
Throwing a player into a high pressure match right away is NOT the way to develop new talent - sure, they need exposure - but repeatedly putting him in situations where he'll let the team down?

You'll break the player, not strengthen them.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
October 31 2009 07:10 GMT
#914
On October 31 2009 15:50 darktreb wrote:They need another elite player period. They don't have a single guy outside of JD who isn't a heavy underdog against every other team's ace with the exception of (ironically) ACE and maybe WeMade (which is funny because WeMade is playing really well right now).

That's why Hwaseung House #6 is so good.

And IIRC, they also stopped putting Anytime in the lineup quite some time before he went to ACE.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8035 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 07:11:48
October 31 2009 07:10 GMT
#915
On October 31 2009 15:56 Perguvious wrote:
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thanks cho

I too had faith in the suckage of Oz the military might of ACE.

Edit: lol Sadistx. That's awesome.
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
October 31 2009 07:12 GMT
#916
On October 31 2009 16:10 Zona wrote:
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On October 31 2009 15:50 darktreb wrote:They need another elite player period. They don't have a single guy outside of JD who isn't a heavy underdog against every other team's ace with the exception of (ironically) ACE and maybe WeMade (which is funny because WeMade is playing really well right now).

That's why Hwaseung House #6 is so good.

And IIRC, they also stopped putting Anytime in the lineup quite some time before he went to ACE.

That's because Anytime himself asked for an extended break and the coach agreed,
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
October 31 2009 07:27 GMT
#917
Killer is so bad. Oz should really send Jaedong for ace 24/7 lol.

Good to see Ace winning on Yellow's birthday anyway.
Brood War loyalist
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
October 31 2009 07:31 GMT
#918
DE: "Still the same. I felt both were still Zergs."

What a baller!

He's saying Jaedong is just another zerg ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
nebffa
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Australia776 Posts
October 31 2009 07:40 GMT
#919
keep in mind that the biggest obstacle to JD's resigning with Oz this offseason was that his parents felt he was being overworked—I'm betting that not sending JD for ace so often is a direct result of the contract negotiations that kept him at Hwaseung. It's just too bad that Oz doesn't yet have any other players that can perform well in important games.


wow its been a while since ive seen such an accidental oxymoron play on words. resigning as in giving up, or resigning as in signing on for a new contract? dw, i get what you meant. but it was interesting in the moment =]
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 07:41:02
October 31 2009 07:40 GMT
#920
Well eventually they'll start sending Jaedong again after they hit rock bottom ......... right ?
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