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lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
October 31 2009 06:40 GMT
#881
fck yeah. At first I was like ^.^ noobs sent killer and then i was like >.< wtf darkelf? where my ruby!

Then I was like >.<------------> -_- ---> 0_o ------>0_0 --------------> >:D ACE FCK YEAH

So if anyone wanted to know how I felt about this matter...

Now I am le tired, fire zee missles later -_-ZZZZ
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 06:40:31
October 31 2009 06:40 GMT
#882
yeah but T1 had bisu, best, fantasy... Oz has Killer.

edit: and jaedong.
Woo Jung Ho
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
October 31 2009 06:40 GMT
#883
Ruby: "I am very hungry for good results, which is why I want to play good games and win. Our team's first win should have happened a long time ago, but I didn't perform too well. So I am happy that DarkElf won today and recorded our team's first win. I also want to wish YellOw a happy birthday."
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d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
October 31 2009 06:40 GMT
#884
dude Reach has a fukin manly voice
manner
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
October 31 2009 06:40 GMT
#885
On October 31 2009 15:38 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 15:37 Disregard wrote:
[image loading]

oh my...


I am one of the 1408 lol, along with the ones who voted for CJ.

Both Coach Cho screwed me up. But I am having fun right now because Ace won.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 06:41:19
October 31 2009 06:40 GMT
#886
On October 31 2009 15:37 ArvickHero wrote:
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On October 31 2009 15:31 JWD wrote:
Hwaseung was a better team when they just worked JD into the ground :/

Oz was a better team before they lost Anytime/ForGG. Damn coach chased them off -_-

well to be fair, Anytime left for the military. But yeah, letting fOrGG go so quietly was a horrible mistake. Even if he just didn't fit in and so his trade was necessary, Hwaseung should have been more concerned with bringing in a player of similar caliber to replace him.
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L_P_Monix
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia157 Posts
October 31 2009 06:40 GMT
#887
On October 31 2009 15:40 iLoveKT wrote:
yeah but T1 had bisu, best, fantasy... Oz has Killer.

edit: and jaedong.

Oz has Jaedong, but apparently they are unaware of that.
p53
Profile Joined September 2009
297 Posts
October 31 2009 06:41 GMT
#888
damn reach too sexy
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
October 31 2009 06:41 GMT
#889
On October 31 2009 15:38 konadora wrote:
DarkElf daily MVP

Q: "How did you feel after finding out you were facing Killer and not Jaedong."
DE: "Still the same. I felt both were still Zergs."


Fuck yeah DarkElf
sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
October 31 2009 06:42 GMT
#890
Reach would have a great voice for Spanish.
Hi Mom
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
October 31 2009 06:42 GMT
#891
On October 31 2009 15:37 darktreb wrote:
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On October 31 2009 15:33 JWD wrote:
On October 31 2009 15:32 NeoOmega wrote:
Glimpses of brilliance but overall just too much inexperience. Oz is banking on the future, knowing that they will never win proleague without clutch play from people other that Jaedong.

Oz should be developing players other than JD, but why someone as inexperienced and unsuccessful as killer? Why not someone like HiyA or Lomo?


Because maybe he shows the most potential in practice? Because Lomo and Hiya have shown that they can be good at times but will never be great? Because there could be all kinds of a reasons a great coach like Oz's Cho who has proven himself time and time again might see something?

I love how many people here are just talking out of their asses. Oz has ZERO chance of winning PL finals which is by the way TEN MONTHS FROM NOW if they just ride the JD train all the way there again. They're taking a big chance trying to cultivate other players because they want to win the finals, and they might fall hard on their faces in the process.

Big risk -> big reward or big failure ... SKT1 went 4-7 in the first round last year, let's not go nuts here. Season's not over at all.


That's not necessarily true, though. Jaedong wasn't tired from playing all season long, he was tired because he was practicing for incredibly important matches deep in the OSL, MSL, and Proleague playoffs. Instead of finding another zerg ace player, they need to either work a toss or terran to switch it up a bit, or change how all the leagues end at the same time. =P

Man, these interviews sound like they're pretty funny.
Oh, my eSports
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
October 31 2009 06:42 GMT
#892
Q: How did you feel after hearing that "despite you having a low winning rate, when you win, you win with style."
Reach: "Normally, Kingdom doesn't say that, so when I heard that, I felt goosebumps."
Nal_rA: "I always saw Reach and Kingdom fooling around with each other haha. Also, today is YellOw's birthday, so anything you want to say?"
Reach: "I just want to wish him happy birthday and to spend today well."
Reach: "Darkelf and Ruby are playing very well, and they have influenced us superiors. They make us want to play even better. That is why we want to work hard and continue to win more games."
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
October 31 2009 06:43 GMT
#893

On October 31 2009 15:37 Disregard wrote:
[image loading]

I voted ACE.
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QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
October 31 2009 06:44 GMT
#894
Haha ACE above Woongjin, though it's a tie.
Oh, my eSports
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
October 31 2009 06:44 GMT
#895
no hwaseung house?

still, really glad to see a win by ACE. Oz is really tanking this year.
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
October 31 2009 06:45 GMT
#896
keep in mind that the biggest obstacle to JD's resigning with Oz this offseason was that his parents felt he was being overworked—I'm betting that not sending JD for ace so often is a direct result of the contract negotiations that kept him at Hwaseung. It's just too bad that Oz doesn't yet have any other players that can perform well in important games.
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Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 31 2009 06:47 GMT
#897
SKT1 went 4-7 in the first round last year, let's not go nuts here. Season's not over at all.

The difference is that SKT1 had good players that were either slumping (Fantasy/Best), or not playing at all (iirc Bisu wasnt sent out very much that round). Oz doesnt really have anyone on that team that can turn the corner and turn them into a contender again. with that lineup random scrub+double JD wins looks like the only way oz is going anywhere.
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
October 31 2009 06:49 GMT
#898
no hwaseung house?

still, really glad to see a win by ACE. Oz is really tanking this year.
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 06:50:11
October 31 2009 06:49 GMT
#899
On October 31 2009 15:43 konadora wrote:

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On October 31 2009 15:37 Disregard wrote:
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I voted ACE.


Right on BRO!!! + Show Spoiler +
FREE COOKIES


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"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 06:56:38
October 31 2009 06:50 GMT
#900
On October 31 2009 15:42 QibingZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 15:37 darktreb wrote:
On October 31 2009 15:33 JWD wrote:
On October 31 2009 15:32 NeoOmega wrote:
Glimpses of brilliance but overall just too much inexperience. Oz is banking on the future, knowing that they will never win proleague without clutch play from people other that Jaedong.

Oz should be developing players other than JD, but why someone as inexperienced and unsuccessful as killer? Why not someone like HiyA or Lomo?


Because maybe he shows the most potential in practice? Because Lomo and Hiya have shown that they can be good at times but will never be great? Because there could be all kinds of a reasons a great coach like Oz's Cho who has proven himself time and time again might see something?

I love how many people here are just talking out of their asses. Oz has ZERO chance of winning PL finals which is by the way TEN MONTHS FROM NOW if they just ride the JD train all the way there again. They're taking a big chance trying to cultivate other players because they want to win the finals, and they might fall hard on their faces in the process.

Big risk -> big reward or big failure ... SKT1 went 4-7 in the first round last year, let's not go nuts here. Season's not over at all.

Instead of finding another zerg ace player, they need to either work a toss or terran to switch it up a bit


They need another elite player period. They don't have a single guy outside of JD who isn't a heavy underdog against every other team's ace with the exception of (ironically) ACE and maybe WeMade (which is funny because WeMade is playing really well right now).

EDIT: Also Estro doesn't have a bona fide ace right now either, though I'd probably take Up, Really (playing like a baller right now), or Hyvaa over any non-JD Oz player.

You don't get to pick and choose who is good - if Killer has shown the most potential then he should be developed. Trying to force greatness out of a mediocre T/P when it's not there would not be the answer.
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