• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:32
CET 13:32
KST 21:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down14ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League77Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Hands of Pluto Recent recommended BW games Oceanic Brood War - Join and chat! Bot on ladder BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [ASL22] Grand Finals [BSL23] RO24 Group C
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9206 users

[SPL] Hwaseung Oz vs Air Force ACE - Page 45

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 52 Next
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
October 31 2009 06:40 GMT
#881
fck yeah. At first I was like ^.^ noobs sent killer and then i was like >.< wtf darkelf? where my ruby!

Then I was like >.<------------> -_- ---> 0_o ------>0_0 --------------> >:D ACE FCK YEAH

So if anyone wanted to know how I felt about this matter...

Now I am le tired, fire zee missles later -_-ZZZZ
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 06:40:31
October 31 2009 06:40 GMT
#882
yeah but T1 had bisu, best, fantasy... Oz has Killer.

edit: and jaedong.
Woo Jung Ho
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
October 31 2009 06:40 GMT
#883
Ruby: "I am very hungry for good results, which is why I want to play good games and win. Our team's first win should have happened a long time ago, but I didn't perform too well. So I am happy that DarkElf won today and recorded our team's first win. I also want to wish YellOw a happy birthday."
POGGERS
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
October 31 2009 06:40 GMT
#884
dude Reach has a fukin manly voice
manner
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
October 31 2009 06:40 GMT
#885
On October 31 2009 15:38 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 15:37 Disregard wrote:
[image loading]

oh my...


I am one of the 1408 lol, along with the ones who voted for CJ.

Both Coach Cho screwed me up. But I am having fun right now because Ace won.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 06:41:19
October 31 2009 06:40 GMT
#886
On October 31 2009 15:37 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 15:31 JWD wrote:
Hwaseung was a better team when they just worked JD into the ground :/

Oz was a better team before they lost Anytime/ForGG. Damn coach chased them off -_-

well to be fair, Anytime left for the military. But yeah, letting fOrGG go so quietly was a horrible mistake. Even if he just didn't fit in and so his trade was necessary, Hwaseung should have been more concerned with bringing in a player of similar caliber to replace him.
✌
L_P_Monix
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia157 Posts
October 31 2009 06:40 GMT
#887
On October 31 2009 15:40 iLoveKT wrote:
yeah but T1 had bisu, best, fantasy... Oz has Killer.

edit: and jaedong.

Oz has Jaedong, but apparently they are unaware of that.
p53
Profile Joined September 2009
297 Posts
October 31 2009 06:41 GMT
#888
damn reach too sexy
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
October 31 2009 06:41 GMT
#889
On October 31 2009 15:38 konadora wrote:
DarkElf daily MVP

Q: "How did you feel after finding out you were facing Killer and not Jaedong."
DE: "Still the same. I felt both were still Zergs."


Fuck yeah DarkElf
sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
October 31 2009 06:42 GMT
#890
Reach would have a great voice for Spanish.
Hi Mom
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
October 31 2009 06:42 GMT
#891
On October 31 2009 15:37 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 15:33 JWD wrote:
On October 31 2009 15:32 NeoOmega wrote:
Glimpses of brilliance but overall just too much inexperience. Oz is banking on the future, knowing that they will never win proleague without clutch play from people other that Jaedong.

Oz should be developing players other than JD, but why someone as inexperienced and unsuccessful as killer? Why not someone like HiyA or Lomo?


Because maybe he shows the most potential in practice? Because Lomo and Hiya have shown that they can be good at times but will never be great? Because there could be all kinds of a reasons a great coach like Oz's Cho who has proven himself time and time again might see something?

I love how many people here are just talking out of their asses. Oz has ZERO chance of winning PL finals which is by the way TEN MONTHS FROM NOW if they just ride the JD train all the way there again. They're taking a big chance trying to cultivate other players because they want to win the finals, and they might fall hard on their faces in the process.

Big risk -> big reward or big failure ... SKT1 went 4-7 in the first round last year, let's not go nuts here. Season's not over at all.


That's not necessarily true, though. Jaedong wasn't tired from playing all season long, he was tired because he was practicing for incredibly important matches deep in the OSL, MSL, and Proleague playoffs. Instead of finding another zerg ace player, they need to either work a toss or terran to switch it up a bit, or change how all the leagues end at the same time. =P

Man, these interviews sound like they're pretty funny.
Oh, my eSports
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
October 31 2009 06:42 GMT
#892
Q: How did you feel after hearing that "despite you having a low winning rate, when you win, you win with style."
Reach: "Normally, Kingdom doesn't say that, so when I heard that, I felt goosebumps."
Nal_rA: "I always saw Reach and Kingdom fooling around with each other haha. Also, today is YellOw's birthday, so anything you want to say?"
Reach: "I just want to wish him happy birthday and to spend today well."
Reach: "Darkelf and Ruby are playing very well, and they have influenced us superiors. They make us want to play even better. That is why we want to work hard and continue to win more games."
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
October 31 2009 06:43 GMT
#893

On October 31 2009 15:37 Disregard wrote:
[image loading]

I voted ACE.
POGGERS
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
October 31 2009 06:44 GMT
#894
Haha ACE above Woongjin, though it's a tie.
Oh, my eSports
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
October 31 2009 06:44 GMT
#895
no hwaseung house?

still, really glad to see a win by ACE. Oz is really tanking this year.
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
October 31 2009 06:45 GMT
#896
keep in mind that the biggest obstacle to JD's resigning with Oz this offseason was that his parents felt he was being overworked—I'm betting that not sending JD for ace so often is a direct result of the contract negotiations that kept him at Hwaseung. It's just too bad that Oz doesn't yet have any other players that can perform well in important games.
✌
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 31 2009 06:47 GMT
#897
SKT1 went 4-7 in the first round last year, let's not go nuts here. Season's not over at all.

The difference is that SKT1 had good players that were either slumping (Fantasy/Best), or not playing at all (iirc Bisu wasnt sent out very much that round). Oz doesnt really have anyone on that team that can turn the corner and turn them into a contender again. with that lineup random scrub+double JD wins looks like the only way oz is going anywhere.
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
October 31 2009 06:49 GMT
#898
no hwaseung house?

still, really glad to see a win by ACE. Oz is really tanking this year.
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 06:50:11
October 31 2009 06:49 GMT
#899
On October 31 2009 15:43 konadora wrote:

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 15:37 Disregard wrote:
[image loading]

I voted ACE.


Right on BRO!!! + Show Spoiler +
FREE COOKIES


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 06:56:38
October 31 2009 06:50 GMT
#900
On October 31 2009 15:42 QibingZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 15:37 darktreb wrote:
On October 31 2009 15:33 JWD wrote:
On October 31 2009 15:32 NeoOmega wrote:
Glimpses of brilliance but overall just too much inexperience. Oz is banking on the future, knowing that they will never win proleague without clutch play from people other that Jaedong.

Oz should be developing players other than JD, but why someone as inexperienced and unsuccessful as killer? Why not someone like HiyA or Lomo?


Because maybe he shows the most potential in practice? Because Lomo and Hiya have shown that they can be good at times but will never be great? Because there could be all kinds of a reasons a great coach like Oz's Cho who has proven himself time and time again might see something?

I love how many people here are just talking out of their asses. Oz has ZERO chance of winning PL finals which is by the way TEN MONTHS FROM NOW if they just ride the JD train all the way there again. They're taking a big chance trying to cultivate other players because they want to win the finals, and they might fall hard on their faces in the process.

Big risk -> big reward or big failure ... SKT1 went 4-7 in the first round last year, let's not go nuts here. Season's not over at all.

Instead of finding another zerg ace player, they need to either work a toss or terran to switch it up a bit


They need another elite player period. They don't have a single guy outside of JD who isn't a heavy underdog against every other team's ace with the exception of (ironically) ACE and maybe WeMade (which is funny because WeMade is playing really well right now).

EDIT: Also Estro doesn't have a bona fide ace right now either, though I'd probably take Up, Really (playing like a baller right now), or Hyvaa over any non-JD Oz player.

You don't get to pick and choose who is good - if Killer has shown the most potential then he should be developed. Trying to force greatness out of a mediocre T/P when it's not there would not be the answer.
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 52 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IntoTheTV X SOOP
20:00
Premier - Group C
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
IntoTheiNu 1108
WardiTV634
Rex131
TKL 125
CranKy Ducklings91
CranKy Ducklings SOOP10
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko327
Rex 131
TKL 125
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 32220
Calm 10835
Bisu 1402
Horang2 851
actioN 659
Jaedong 598
Hyuk 398
BeSt 396
Larva 323
Stork 305
[ Show more ]
Mini 300
EffOrt 278
Soma 208
Light 172
ggaemo 153
Zeus 141
Snow 118
Barracks 83
Hyun 73
Pusan 67
Killer 65
Sea.KH 61
hero 56
Sharp 54
Shinee 50
HiyA 42
Mong 36
Mind 35
ToSsGirL 31
Shine 31
Movie 28
Yoon 17
Sacsri 13
Noble 12
yabsab 10
Sexy 8
Icarus 1
Dota 2
Cr1tdota1971
XcaliburYe427
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1122
x6flipin255
markeloff60
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr59
Other Games
B2W.Neo1318
hiko272
Pyrionflax229
Beastyqt174
RotterdaM57
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL17412
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 17
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV300
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
11h 29m
The PondCast
21h 29m
Kung Fu Cup
22h 29m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 22h
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
GSL
2 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Epic.LAN
4 days
Yamato Cup
5 days
Map Test Tournament
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Rogue vs Classic
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSC
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.