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Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
October 28 2009 10:36 GMT
#721
On October 28 2009 19:35 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Let's be honest guys, we just saw Flash display an immaculate game.

And now it's Jaehoon vs FBH.

If someone asked me what could possibly be the worst match up ever, it'd be either this or Rock vs a very hyper cat.


How can you not be excited about watching Firebathero's legendary TvP?
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
October 28 2009 10:36 GMT
#722
Aah Konadora's stream bug T_T
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 10:37:22
October 28 2009 10:36 GMT
#723
On October 28 2009 19:33 Hinanawi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 19:31 darktreb wrote:
On October 28 2009 19:26 Mooncat wrote:
Finally someone shows the skill to take both OSL and MSL in the same season...


I think if PL didn't exist, Jaedong might have won both leagues last season. But Calm is clearly for real so maybe that's not the case.

But how sick would it have been if JD had won both leagues at the same time - the act is nearly unthinkable at the moment and he almost pulled it off. Jaedong can never win a league again and it no longer matters. Of course it's hard to imagine that Jaedong would not win another league but it was even more hard to imagine that Savior would never win again after beating Nada.


I think saying JD will never win another league is way, WAY premature right now. He's not slumping hard or anything, just had a bad last clump of games.

Also, Flash now has a 13 game TvZ win streak to match his 13 (Proleague) game TvT win streak.


Ya I mean I said "it is hard to imagine" that JD would never win again. My basis is not his current performance which is meaningless (JD has always turned it on when it mattered instead of Flash who is always on and burns out), but rather just that if you asked 100 SC fans after Savior beat Nada - "will Savior win another league" I bet 98 or 99 would have said "yes", even if they were told not to count the upcoming MSL final against Bisu.
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
October 28 2009 10:37 GMT
#724
On October 28 2009 19:35 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 19:33 Hinanawi wrote:
Also, Flash now has a 13 game TvZ win streak to match his 13 (Proleague) game TvT win streak.

If he can just fix his slightly questionable TvP, he'll be completely unstoppable this season.


Ahem? Where did THIS come from? FlaSh has the world's best TvP.
Graphics
viewer
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada662 Posts
October 28 2009 10:37 GMT
#725
God i never stop laughing at that guy.
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
October 28 2009 10:38 GMT
#726
On October 28 2009 19:36 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 19:33 Hinanawi wrote:
On October 28 2009 19:31 darktreb wrote:
On October 28 2009 19:26 Mooncat wrote:
Finally someone shows the skill to take both OSL and MSL in the same season...


I think if PL didn't exist, Jaedong might have won both leagues last season. But Calm is clearly for real so maybe that's not the case.

But how sick would it have been if JD had won both leagues at the same time - the act is nearly unthinkable at the moment and he almost pulled it off. Jaedong can never win a league again and it no longer matters. Of course it's hard to imagine that Jaedong would not win another league but it was even more hard to imagine that Savior would never win again after beating Nada.


I think saying JD will never win another league is way, WAY premature right now. He's not slumping hard or anything, just had a bad last clump of games.

Also, Flash now has a 13 game TvZ win streak to match his 13 (Proleague) game TvT win streak.


Ya I mean I said "it is hard to imagine" that JD would never win again. My basis is not his current performance which is meaningless (JD has always turned it on when it mattered instead of Flash who is always on and burns out), but rather just that if you asked 100 SC fans after Savior beat Nada - "will Savior win another league" I bet 98 or 99 would have said "yes", even if they were told not to count the upcoming MSL final against Bisu.


But you said in your post, "Jaedong can never win a league again."

Not even, "Jaedong PROBABLY won't win a league again".

It's a rather strange and unfounded thing to say.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
October 28 2009 10:38 GMT
#727
On October 28 2009 19:37 SilverskY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 19:35 Holgerius wrote:
On October 28 2009 19:33 Hinanawi wrote:
Also, Flash now has a 13 game TvZ win streak to match his 13 (Proleague) game TvT win streak.

If he can just fix his slightly questionable TvP, he'll be completely unstoppable this season.


Ahem? Where did THIS come from? FlaSh has the world's best TvP.


Flash probably does have the best TvP, but he looked questionable against DaezanG (and obviously he lost to Bisu in WCG 2-1).

Really though, we can't tell how good his TvP is because he's barely played any lately.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 28 2009 10:38 GMT
#728
On October 28 2009 19:37 SilverskY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 19:35 Holgerius wrote:
On October 28 2009 19:33 Hinanawi wrote:
Also, Flash now has a 13 game TvZ win streak to match his 13 (Proleague) game TvT win streak.

If he can just fix his slightly questionable TvP, he'll be completely unstoppable this season.


Ahem? Where did THIS come from? FlaSh has the world's best TvP.

He's been losing left and right to the dragons recently. His TvP is not what it used to be.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
ATLAS-3.04
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States190 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 10:38:54
October 28 2009 10:38 GMT
#729
Jaehoon's hair gives me a headache. >.>;
"I wheel destoryed, ehh, everywon... okay? In two-souzand-nine! Tank you!" ~Savior, Blizzcon 2008
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2241 Posts
October 28 2009 10:38 GMT
#730
kinda rooting for FBH just because Khan is so bad lately
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
October 28 2009 10:38 GMT
#731
On October 28 2009 19:37 SilverskY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 19:35 Holgerius wrote:
On October 28 2009 19:33 Hinanawi wrote:
Also, Flash now has a 13 game TvZ win streak to match his 13 (Proleague) game TvT win streak.

If he can just fix his slightly questionable TvP, he'll be completely unstoppable this season.


Ahem? Where did THIS come from? FlaSh has the world's best TvP.


He's had a pretty dismal record vs top Ps lately, but he always ends up playing them on HBR or destination or something. We actually haven't seen him play a top tier TvP since his recent surge, which means it's the only questionable variable with our little monster.
Remember Violet.
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
October 28 2009 10:38 GMT
#732
On October 28 2009 19:29 ATLAS-3.04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 19:13 SilverskY wrote:
On October 28 2009 19:12 Orbifold wrote:
I kind of understand why some people think Flash fans can be annoying... but come on, how can you not just revel in the abject domination of that last game?

I kind of feel that FlaSh is under-loved. So many haters.


"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." ~Albert Einstein.

I agree wholeheartedly. It just boggles the mind. It especially irritates me considering how much praise Fantasy receives. But hey, the human brain is stupid -- the greatest mind of 20th century said so himself.


Fantasy is bound to get more talk, even though it should be clear Flash has always been the better terran. First, fantasy gets most of the horde of SKT fans by default. Second, he's made it a bit further into the last few leagues (barring GOM, which everyone seemed to ignore). Finally, he's known for making newer strategies popular (despite the fact they seem to be created by oov or boxer), so he gets that whole 'genius' label.


But hey, FBH TvP coming up, brace yourself!
Oh, my eSports
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
October 28 2009 10:39 GMT
#733
The last time Flash played an in-form dragon (besides his WCG series with Bisu, which was super close) was some time ago.

Anyway, Fantasy (the only other candidate for best TvP) has also lost his most recent series with Bisu and Stork.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
October 28 2009 10:39 GMT
#734
Come on, FBH, just Deep Six him. Treat it like TvZ and you might have a chance!
Remember Violet.
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
October 28 2009 10:40 GMT
#735
Is this match 2000 ?
Or will the second set be ?
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
October 28 2009 10:40 GMT
#736
Oh man, after getting such amazing games from Flash and Hogil, we're going to get some of the worst PvT and TvP ever seen on live TV.
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
October 28 2009 10:41 GMT
#737
On October 28 2009 19:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Come on, FBH, just Deep Six him. Treat it like TvZ and you might have a chance!


yes

eSTRO style go go go
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
October 28 2009 10:41 GMT
#738
On October 28 2009 19:38 Gustav_Wind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 19:36 darktreb wrote:
On October 28 2009 19:33 Hinanawi wrote:
On October 28 2009 19:31 darktreb wrote:
On October 28 2009 19:26 Mooncat wrote:
Finally someone shows the skill to take both OSL and MSL in the same season...


I think if PL didn't exist, Jaedong might have won both leagues last season. But Calm is clearly for real so maybe that's not the case.

But how sick would it have been if JD had won both leagues at the same time - the act is nearly unthinkable at the moment and he almost pulled it off. Jaedong can never win a league again and it no longer matters. Of course it's hard to imagine that Jaedong would not win another league but it was even more hard to imagine that Savior would never win again after beating Nada.


I think saying JD will never win another league is way, WAY premature right now. He's not slumping hard or anything, just had a bad last clump of games.

Also, Flash now has a 13 game TvZ win streak to match his 13 (Proleague) game TvT win streak.


Ya I mean I said "it is hard to imagine" that JD would never win again. My basis is not his current performance which is meaningless (JD has always turned it on when it mattered instead of Flash who is always on and burns out), but rather just that if you asked 100 SC fans after Savior beat Nada - "will Savior win another league" I bet 98 or 99 would have said "yes", even if they were told not to count the upcoming MSL final against Bisu.


But you said in your post, "Jaedong can never win a league again."

Not even, "Jaedong PROBABLY won't win a league again".

It's a rather strange and unfounded thing to say.


Uhh what I meant was even if Jaedong never wins another league it's irrelevant - his greatness and legacy has already been cemented in my mind. Everything he does from here is just another notch up in the pantheon of greats, and he's already one of the 5 greatest players of all time (along with the 4 bonjwas).

Sorry for any confusion, at no point did I ever intend to imply that I thought JD would never win again. In fact, I consider him the favorite in both leagues this season because frankly that's where the safe money is.

In fact I would argue that comparing a player to Savior right after beating Nada is the HIGHEST compliment you can pay a progamer. Never in progaming history did resistance feel so futile than when Savior beat Nada in Shinhan3 (along with Reverse LT, Longinus, Neo Arkanoid...)
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 28 2009 10:43 GMT
#739
Is there any stream that's working?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
October 28 2009 10:43 GMT
#740
On October 28 2009 19:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Come on, FBH, just Deep Six him. Treat it like TvZ and you might have a chance!


This is probably a good idea, and you'd figure FBH is the type of guy who has the balls to pull it off. Someone needs to show him go.go vs Bisu and let him know he can even be BM and make a few CCs in his opponent's base. Hell, go.go isn't good TvP either. C'mon FBH.
Oh, my eSports
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