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Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
October 16 2009 11:43 GMT
#481
On October 16 2009 20:40 BookTwo wrote:
wait, OP says backho won?

In our hearts. Only in our hearts. Many thanks to him for some awesome games.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
ATLAS-3.04
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States190 Posts
October 16 2009 11:43 GMT
#482
On October 16 2009 20:40 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 20:37 ATLAS-3.04 wrote:
On October 16 2009 20:33 Snowden wrote:
i use failho as a loving term.


What's with calling Backho "Failho"? He got an impressive and well-deserved victory over Calm in game 1 and nearly took it in game 2.

Heartbreak Ridge = massive ZvP imba. Even Bisu couldn't do it against a mediocre zerg. Hopefully the next map cycle won't be as ridiculously zerg favored.

Anyway, congrats to Calm and thanks again to Kentor.

You should watch moar games with him. He totally deserves the name Failho.


I've seen plenty of his games and I agree. But today he does not. Backho faired no worse than Bisu did against Shine on HBR. Again, Backho was superb in game 1 and nearly won in game 2. Give him credit.
"I wheel destoryed, ehh, everywon... okay? In two-souzand-nine! Tank you!" ~Savior, Blizzcon 2008
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-16 11:44:22
October 16 2009 11:44 GMT
#483
On October 16 2009 20:37 ATLAS-3.04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 20:33 Snowden wrote:
i use failho as a loving term.


What's with calling Backho "Failho"? He got an impressive and well-deserved victory over Calm in game 1 and nearly took it in game 2.

Heartbreak Ridge = massive ZvP imba. Even Bisu couldn't do it against a mediocre zerg. Hopefully the next map cycle won't be as ridiculously zerg favored.

Anyway, congrats to Calm and thanks again to Kentor.


Because he is so increadibly unstable. He often makes S-class moves in games and them throw them away due to very big mistakes, that for some reason, often look hilarious. He the only player who's litterally made me laugh watching some of his games.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
October 16 2009 11:44 GMT
#484
On October 16 2009 20:36 iG.SwOrD wrote:
Maelstrom or just biuld some decent amount of corsair to avoid muta harass eh?


Not sure that is enough

Zerg doesn't care about losing the Mutas as long as he snipes the HT...

Quick switch to Mutas, punish a few probes if not well defended.
Snipe HT while losing your mutas
Overrun the P with Hydra Lings (Lurks?) since no more storms to be afraid of.

If P goes cors I think zerg can easily go Lurk since P won't have enough gas to have the right amount of obs, HT + goons
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
October 16 2009 11:45 GMT
#485
ahh awesome, calm did win

<3
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 16 2009 11:47 GMT
#486
The Mutalisk harass put him behind for sure - but he made the same mistakes as Pusan did against yCh (who did counter the harass effectively with DA) - he let Zerglings kill his expansions and hence left him economically fucked (while the Zerg is economically fine).

The game was pretty even until then imo
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
October 16 2009 11:47 GMT
#487
On October 16 2009 20:02 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 19:59 FireGuyX wrote:
On October 16 2009 19:56 Scorch wrote:
I don't know why Backho always goes so far in tournaments although he's an average player. Kinda like the opposite of what Sea used to be.



He's better than Free.


you are an idiot to think backho is overall a better player than free


Well as far as i know BackHo is a better PvPer then Free , but has worse PvZ . I don't know who has a better PvT thought .
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 16 2009 11:48 GMT
#488
On October 16 2009 20:47 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 20:02 GTR wrote:
On October 16 2009 19:59 FireGuyX wrote:
On October 16 2009 19:56 Scorch wrote:
I don't know why Backho always goes so far in tournaments although he's an average player. Kinda like the opposite of what Sea used to be.



He's better than Free.


you are an idiot to think backho is overall a better player than free


Well as far as i know BackHo is a better PvPer then Free , but has worse PvZ . I don't know who has a better PvT thought .

GTR with how free has been playing within the past month, and how Backho played tonight - it's not that far of a stretch imo!
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7802 Posts
October 16 2009 11:48 GMT
#489
Backho just needed to camp some bases and harrass with a speed shuttle or something. Once P gets into the mid game with 3 bases and setting up a 4th he should be fine with just defending/harass.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 16 2009 11:49 GMT
#490
BackHo almost beat Calm (top3 zerg) in a Bo3.

There is hardly a ZvP imba.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 16 2009 11:49 GMT
#491
Backho has like zero game sense and adaptability.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 16 2009 11:50 GMT
#492
On October 16 2009 20:49 SuperArc wrote:
BackHo almost beat Calm (top3 zerg) in a Bo3.

There is hardly a ZvP imba.
(P) BackHoHeartbreak Ridge(Z) Calm
(P) 39 - 44 (Z)(P) 63-87 (Z)(Z) 59 - 37 (P)

Matchup code begs to differ!

I think Backho just really upped his game tonight - it was impressive tbh and he should be proud of the games he played here today
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
October 16 2009 11:52 GMT
#493
agreed, even in the last game it was pretty even until those last few decisions, maybe some archons to defend those lings and it could have gone totally different.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 16 2009 11:54 GMT
#494
On October 16 2009 20:49 SuperArc wrote:
BackHo almost beat Calm (top3 zerg) in a Bo3.

There is hardly a ZvP imba.


Calm wouldn't be top 3 ZvP, probably Top 5-7.
sAviOr...
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-16 11:54:33
October 16 2009 11:54 GMT
#495
On October 16 2009 20:50 Plexa wrote:

I think Backho just really upped his game tonight - it was impressive tbh and he should be proud of the games he played here today

Yeah, definitely. He was one reaver shot away from winning the series (scourge eggs).
ModeratorGood content always wins.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
October 16 2009 11:55 GMT
#496
On October 16 2009 20:54 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 20:49 SuperArc wrote:
BackHo almost beat Calm (top3 zerg) in a Bo3.

There is hardly a ZvP imba.


Calm wouldn't be top 3 ZvP, probably Top 5-7.

Calm is top 1 everything IMO. Calm is the best zerg out there right now, and probably the best player.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-16 11:59:07
October 16 2009 11:57 GMT
#497
Man, LOVED the first game. Finally some twist in PvZ play.

On October 16 2009 20:47 Plexa wrote:
The Mutalisk harass put him behind for sure - but he made the same mistakes as Pusan did against yCh (who did counter the harass effectively with DA) - he let Zerglings kill his expansions and hence left him economically fucked (while the Zerg is economically fine).

The game was pretty even until then imo


How was the game even? He let the zerg get 4 bases before he can get his 3rd. The food count was basically even(and it looked like Backho cut probes too since his army looks pretty big compared to food). Plus hydra/lurker/ling pretty much rapes zealot/goon army.

That said, I agree that he should've played defensive, and at least put a few lots/temps at his expansions to protect against lings.

Meh
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-16 12:09:02
October 16 2009 11:58 GMT
#498
Maybe protoss players should update hallucinations and use it on his HTs and fool the zerg to either think he has sniped most of them or just lure the mutas in to killing them :D or yeah get good at maelstorming :/ .

Anyways i don't know who will stop Jaedong or Calm this OSL/MSL if they don't kill themselves earlier . I think Flash is the main contender , but his TvZ looks fragile at times . Other then him i don't know who can do it a protoss player seems highly unlikely... other capable ZvZers could stop their progress but thats to tough to tell .
zenaardvark
Profile Joined September 2009
United States18 Posts
October 16 2009 11:59 GMT
#499
On October 16 2009 20:54 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 20:49 SuperArc wrote:
BackHo almost beat Calm (top3 zerg) in a Bo3.

There is hardly a ZvP imba.


Calm wouldn't be top 3 ZvP, probably Top 5-7.

NO, Calm is definitely top 3. There is no other player that I would place above him except for Jaedong and maybe Effort if he plays well this year.
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Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
October 16 2009 12:01 GMT
#500
On October 16 2009 20:49 SuperArc wrote:
BackHo almost beat Calm (top3 zerg) in a Bo3.

There is hardly a ZvP imba.

With all due respect, Shine DID beat Bisu (top1 protoss, best PvZer in history) in a Bo3. Not that long ago. Your argument is invalid.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
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