• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 03:12
CET 09:12
KST 17:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage14Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23
StarCraft 2
General
Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top? Liquibets sc2 season 30 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament iNu's Battles #22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [G] How to playtest arcade maps [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery BW General Discussion [BSL23] RO16 Group Stage screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool [BW] Looking for Clan Thread!
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL23] Ro16 Group C - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL23] Ro16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll
Strategy
Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck? European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 14703 users

[OSL] Ro36 Group C - Page 25

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 28 Next All
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
October 16 2009 11:43 GMT
#481
On October 16 2009 20:40 BookTwo wrote:
wait, OP says backho won?

In our hearts. Only in our hearts. Many thanks to him for some awesome games.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
ATLAS-3.04
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States190 Posts
October 16 2009 11:43 GMT
#482
On October 16 2009 20:40 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 20:37 ATLAS-3.04 wrote:
On October 16 2009 20:33 Snowden wrote:
i use failho as a loving term.


What's with calling Backho "Failho"? He got an impressive and well-deserved victory over Calm in game 1 and nearly took it in game 2.

Heartbreak Ridge = massive ZvP imba. Even Bisu couldn't do it against a mediocre zerg. Hopefully the next map cycle won't be as ridiculously zerg favored.

Anyway, congrats to Calm and thanks again to Kentor.

You should watch moar games with him. He totally deserves the name Failho.


I've seen plenty of his games and I agree. But today he does not. Backho faired no worse than Bisu did against Shine on HBR. Again, Backho was superb in game 1 and nearly won in game 2. Give him credit.
"I wheel destoryed, ehh, everywon... okay? In two-souzand-nine! Tank you!" ~Savior, Blizzcon 2008
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-16 11:44:22
October 16 2009 11:44 GMT
#483
On October 16 2009 20:37 ATLAS-3.04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 20:33 Snowden wrote:
i use failho as a loving term.


What's with calling Backho "Failho"? He got an impressive and well-deserved victory over Calm in game 1 and nearly took it in game 2.

Heartbreak Ridge = massive ZvP imba. Even Bisu couldn't do it against a mediocre zerg. Hopefully the next map cycle won't be as ridiculously zerg favored.

Anyway, congrats to Calm and thanks again to Kentor.


Because he is so increadibly unstable. He often makes S-class moves in games and them throw them away due to very big mistakes, that for some reason, often look hilarious. He the only player who's litterally made me laugh watching some of his games.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
October 16 2009 11:44 GMT
#484
On October 16 2009 20:36 iG.SwOrD wrote:
Maelstrom or just biuld some decent amount of corsair to avoid muta harass eh?


Not sure that is enough

Zerg doesn't care about losing the Mutas as long as he snipes the HT...

Quick switch to Mutas, punish a few probes if not well defended.
Snipe HT while losing your mutas
Overrun the P with Hydra Lings (Lurks?) since no more storms to be afraid of.

If P goes cors I think zerg can easily go Lurk since P won't have enough gas to have the right amount of obs, HT + goons
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
October 16 2009 11:45 GMT
#485
ahh awesome, calm did win

<3
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 16 2009 11:47 GMT
#486
The Mutalisk harass put him behind for sure - but he made the same mistakes as Pusan did against yCh (who did counter the harass effectively with DA) - he let Zerglings kill his expansions and hence left him economically fucked (while the Zerg is economically fine).

The game was pretty even until then imo
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
October 16 2009 11:47 GMT
#487
On October 16 2009 20:02 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 19:59 FireGuyX wrote:
On October 16 2009 19:56 Scorch wrote:
I don't know why Backho always goes so far in tournaments although he's an average player. Kinda like the opposite of what Sea used to be.



He's better than Free.


you are an idiot to think backho is overall a better player than free


Well as far as i know BackHo is a better PvPer then Free , but has worse PvZ . I don't know who has a better PvT thought .
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 16 2009 11:48 GMT
#488
On October 16 2009 20:47 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 20:02 GTR wrote:
On October 16 2009 19:59 FireGuyX wrote:
On October 16 2009 19:56 Scorch wrote:
I don't know why Backho always goes so far in tournaments although he's an average player. Kinda like the opposite of what Sea used to be.



He's better than Free.


you are an idiot to think backho is overall a better player than free


Well as far as i know BackHo is a better PvPer then Free , but has worse PvZ . I don't know who has a better PvT thought .

GTR with how free has been playing within the past month, and how Backho played tonight - it's not that far of a stretch imo!
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8203 Posts
October 16 2009 11:48 GMT
#489
Backho just needed to camp some bases and harrass with a speed shuttle or something. Once P gets into the mid game with 3 bases and setting up a 4th he should be fine with just defending/harass.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 16 2009 11:49 GMT
#490
BackHo almost beat Calm (top3 zerg) in a Bo3.

There is hardly a ZvP imba.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 16 2009 11:49 GMT
#491
Backho has like zero game sense and adaptability.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 16 2009 11:50 GMT
#492
On October 16 2009 20:49 SuperArc wrote:
BackHo almost beat Calm (top3 zerg) in a Bo3.

There is hardly a ZvP imba.
(P) BackHoHeartbreak Ridge(Z) Calm
(P) 39 - 44 (Z)(P) 63-87 (Z)(Z) 59 - 37 (P)

Matchup code begs to differ!

I think Backho just really upped his game tonight - it was impressive tbh and he should be proud of the games he played here today
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
October 16 2009 11:52 GMT
#493
agreed, even in the last game it was pretty even until those last few decisions, maybe some archons to defend those lings and it could have gone totally different.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 16 2009 11:54 GMT
#494
On October 16 2009 20:49 SuperArc wrote:
BackHo almost beat Calm (top3 zerg) in a Bo3.

There is hardly a ZvP imba.


Calm wouldn't be top 3 ZvP, probably Top 5-7.
sAviOr...
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-16 11:54:33
October 16 2009 11:54 GMT
#495
On October 16 2009 20:50 Plexa wrote:

I think Backho just really upped his game tonight - it was impressive tbh and he should be proud of the games he played here today

Yeah, definitely. He was one reaver shot away from winning the series (scourge eggs).
ModeratorGood content always wins.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
October 16 2009 11:55 GMT
#496
On October 16 2009 20:54 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 20:49 SuperArc wrote:
BackHo almost beat Calm (top3 zerg) in a Bo3.

There is hardly a ZvP imba.


Calm wouldn't be top 3 ZvP, probably Top 5-7.

Calm is top 1 everything IMO. Calm is the best zerg out there right now, and probably the best player.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-16 11:59:07
October 16 2009 11:57 GMT
#497
Man, LOVED the first game. Finally some twist in PvZ play.

On October 16 2009 20:47 Plexa wrote:
The Mutalisk harass put him behind for sure - but he made the same mistakes as Pusan did against yCh (who did counter the harass effectively with DA) - he let Zerglings kill his expansions and hence left him economically fucked (while the Zerg is economically fine).

The game was pretty even until then imo


How was the game even? He let the zerg get 4 bases before he can get his 3rd. The food count was basically even(and it looked like Backho cut probes too since his army looks pretty big compared to food). Plus hydra/lurker/ling pretty much rapes zealot/goon army.

That said, I agree that he should've played defensive, and at least put a few lots/temps at his expansions to protect against lings.

Meh
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-16 12:09:02
October 16 2009 11:58 GMT
#498
Maybe protoss players should update hallucinations and use it on his HTs and fool the zerg to either think he has sniped most of them or just lure the mutas in to killing them :D or yeah get good at maelstorming :/ .

Anyways i don't know who will stop Jaedong or Calm this OSL/MSL if they don't kill themselves earlier . I think Flash is the main contender , but his TvZ looks fragile at times . Other then him i don't know who can do it a protoss player seems highly unlikely... other capable ZvZers could stop their progress but thats to tough to tell .
zenaardvark
Profile Joined September 2009
United States18 Posts
October 16 2009 11:59 GMT
#499
On October 16 2009 20:54 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 20:49 SuperArc wrote:
BackHo almost beat Calm (top3 zerg) in a Bo3.

There is hardly a ZvP imba.


Calm wouldn't be top 3 ZvP, probably Top 5-7.

NO, Calm is definitely top 3. There is no other player that I would place above him except for Jaedong and maybe Effort if he plays well this year.
_ is currently a nub...Pending upgrade...
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
October 16 2009 12:01 GMT
#500
On October 16 2009 20:49 SuperArc wrote:
BackHo almost beat Calm (top3 zerg) in a Bo3.

There is hardly a ZvP imba.

With all due respect, Shine DID beat Bisu (top1 protoss, best PvZer in history) in a Bo3. Not that long ago. Your argument is invalid.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 28 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 48m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech143
StarCraft: Brood War
Killer 120
Barracks 106
NaDa 34
910 29
Noble 22
NotJumperer 12
Dota 2
monkeys_forever215
League of Legends
JimRising 519
Reynor56
Counter-Strike
fl0m3572
olofmeister141
Other Games
summit1g11210
WinterStarcraft388
ceh9353
Happy270
Mew2King188
Fuzer 105
NeuroSwarm77
KnowMe62
ViBE46
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2255
League of Legends
• Rush1260
• Lourlo795
• Stunt556
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
1h 48m
KCM Race Survival
1h 48m
WardiTV Invitational
3h 48m
Lambo vs Shameless
Rogue vs uThermal
Percival vs YoungYakov
TBD vs GgMaChine
OSC
7h 48m
OSC
14h 48m
ArT vs MindelVK
MiniZergUA vs TBD
Shameless vs TBD
Ultimate Battle
1d 3h
OSC
1d 5h
OSC
1d 15h
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
BSL
2 days
TerrOr vs OyAji
UltrA vs Gosudark
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
3 days
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-11
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.