Thanks! I was just wondering where the OSL prelim thread was.
Suggestion for formatting: instead of copy/pasting the lineup straight from the calendar, you should copy it from here so it'll be all nice and tlpd-ized and there wont be any (R) tags
I don't think there's any streams up. http://ogn.ferron.pe/ has older estars VODS running, orange TV has all stars VODs running, and mystlord's stream is on old VODs, too
well its 11am in Korea so the groups started an hour ago. The actual streaming will start around 2pm KST and will broadcast the morning groups while the afternoon groups are ongoing.
On September 30 2009 10:56 Plexa wrote: well its 11am in Korea so the groups started an hour ago. The actual streaming will start around 2pm KST and will broadcast the morning groups while the afternoon groups are ongoing.
i most likely wont be up so admin help would be appreciated.
on another note, hopefully boxer somehow makes it out T_T
And... that's it! Logon to the Team Liquid OSL qualifiers Live Report thread on September 30th at 10:00 KST... OGN will periodically be choosing exciting matches and broadcasting them!
Have your writers have a little bit of insight, before they do get me up at dead of night. :<
On September 30 2009 10:56 Plexa wrote: well its 11am in Korea so the groups started an hour ago. The actual streaming will start around 2pm KST and will broadcast the morning groups while the afternoon groups are ongoing.
i most likely wont be up so admin help would be appreciated.
on another note, hopefully boxer somehow makes it out T_T
On September 30 2009 10:56 Plexa wrote: well its 11am in Korea so the groups started an hour ago. The actual streaming will start around 2pm KST and will broadcast the morning groups while the afternoon groups are ongoing.
i most likely wont be up so admin help would be appreciated.
on another note, hopefully boxer somehow makes it out T_T
maybe you shouldn't have made the thread O.o
Should someone make a new one?
was waiting for someone to make one, didnt know the actual streaming wouldnt start until much later, apparantly other people didnt either
On September 30 2009 07:07 Athos wrote: Also, I'm confused as to what happened between GoRush and DaezanG. Can anybody clarify?
ya i dont get it, he said he lost and thought he should leave? he went thru to Ro4 and then beat GoRush, why's he feel bad?
He didn't want to play Devil so he thought he wasn't good enough so he wanted to leave. But Devil W.O before Daezang, and Daezang couldn't leave on Gorush, so he stayed.
??? so he was scared of devil but not scared of gorush? how's that plausible?
Sorry about not clarifying that.
Devil beat Daezang 2-1 and GoRush 2-0 originally and got to the finals, but he played in the wrong map order (Desti -> HBR -> Byzantium instead of Desti -> Byzantium -> HBR [I think]) The CJ coach realized this, and told the KeSPA referee, willing to have Devil play over from the Ro8 against Daezang. The KeSPA referee said that they had to replay all the matches from the beginning, but since the first map, Destination, was played correctly, Daezang>Devil on Desti stays and Devil would have to play from 0-1 on Byzantium. CJ Coach was very angry saying he already won the match, he would understand a rematch from the start, but starting with 1 loss is a huge disadvantage, especially since he originally won.
CJ Coach and Devil decided to forfeit than deal with this nonsense with KeSPA, and Daezang was told to play against GoRush for the Ro4 match. Daezang said that he wanted to forfeit, but Devil had already left, so he played against GoRush.
On September 30 2009 07:07 Athos wrote: Also, I'm confused as to what happened between GoRush and DaezanG. Can anybody clarify?
ya i dont get it, he said he lost and thought he should leave? he went thru to Ro4 and then beat GoRush, why's he feel bad?
He didn't want to play Devil so he thought he wasn't good enough so he wanted to leave. But Devil W.O before Daezang, and Daezang couldn't leave on Gorush, so he stayed.
??? so he was scared of devil but not scared of gorush? how's that plausible?
Sorry about not clarifying that.
Devil beat Daezang 2-1 and GoRush 2-0 originally and got to the finals, but he played in the wrong map order (Desti -> HBR -> Byzantium instead of Desti -> Byzantium -> HBR [I think]) The CJ coach realized this, and told the KeSPA referee, willing to have Devil play over from the Ro8 against Daezang. The KeSPA referee said that they had to replay all the matches from the beginning, but since the first map, Destination, was played correctly, Daezang>Devil on Desti stays and Devil would have to play from 0-1 on Byzantium. CJ Coach was very angry saying he already won the match, he would understand a rematch from the start, but starting with 1 loss is a huge disadvantage, especially since he originally won.
CJ Coach and Devil decided to forfeit than deal with this nonsense with KeSPA, and Daezang was told to play against GoRush for the Ro4 match. Daezang said that he wanted to forfeit, but Devil had already left, so he played against GoRush.
SPREAD THE KESPA HATE!!
This was in the MSL prelims. You'll confuse people by posting it here. : D
On September 30 2009 07:07 Athos wrote: Also, I'm confused as to what happened between GoRush and DaezanG. Can anybody clarify?
ya i dont get it, he said he lost and thought he should leave? he went thru to Ro4 and then beat GoRush, why's he feel bad?
He didn't want to play Devil so he thought he wasn't good enough so he wanted to leave. But Devil W.O before Daezang, and Daezang couldn't leave on Gorush, so he stayed.
??? so he was scared of devil but not scared of gorush? how's that plausible?
Sorry about not clarifying that.
Devil beat Daezang 2-1 and GoRush 2-0 originally and got to the finals, but he played in the wrong map order (Desti -> HBR -> Byzantium instead of Desti -> Byzantium -> HBR [I think]) The CJ coach realized this, and told the KeSPA referee, willing to have Devil play over from the Ro8 against Daezang. The KeSPA referee said that they had to replay all the matches from the beginning, but since the first map, Destination, was played correctly, Daezang>Devil on Desti stays and Devil would have to play from 0-1 on Byzantium. CJ Coach was very angry saying he already won the match, he would understand a rematch from the start, but starting with 1 loss is a huge disadvantage, especially since he originally won.
CJ Coach and Devil decided to forfeit than deal with this nonsense with KeSPA, and Daezang was told to play against GoRush for the Ro4 match. Daezang said that he wanted to forfeit, but Devil had already left, so he played against GoRush.
SPREAD THE KESPA HATE!!
Lol, I <3 kespa for giving daezang the win over devil.
On September 30 2009 07:07 Athos wrote: Also, I'm confused as to what happened between GoRush and DaezanG. Can anybody clarify?
ya i dont get it, he said he lost and thought he should leave? he went thru to Ro4 and then beat GoRush, why's he feel bad?
He didn't want to play Devil so he thought he wasn't good enough so he wanted to leave. But Devil W.O before Daezang, and Daezang couldn't leave on Gorush, so he stayed.
??? so he was scared of devil but not scared of gorush? how's that plausible?
Sorry about not clarifying that.
Devil beat Daezang 2-1 and GoRush 2-0 originally and got to the finals, but he played in the wrong map order (Desti -> HBR -> Byzantium instead of Desti -> Byzantium -> HBR [I think]) The CJ coach realized this, and told the KeSPA referee, willing to have Devil play over from the Ro8 against Daezang. The KeSPA referee said that they had to replay all the matches from the beginning, but since the first map, Destination, was played correctly, Daezang>Devil on Desti stays and Devil would have to play from 0-1 on Byzantium. CJ Coach was very angry saying he already won the match, he would understand a rematch from the start, but starting with 1 loss is a huge disadvantage, especially since he originally won.
CJ Coach and Devil decided to forfeit than deal with this nonsense with KeSPA, and Daezang was told to play against GoRush for the Ro4 match. Daezang said that he wanted to forfeit, but Devil had already left, so he played against GoRush.
SPREAD THE KESPA HATE!!
This was in the MSL prelims. You'll confuse people by posting it here. : D
Yeah, if you wanted to you could have just linked to that post
If someone wants to make brackets similar to the ones p4 had for MST last night I'd be happy to take over the LR bracket duties for the rest of morning and the afternoon groups.
On September 30 2009 12:36 Zozma wrote: Looks like Iris is in good shape.
Too early to tell. FBH was doing well till final of his group.
True, but when Tempest is the biggest threat left, I can't really be worried.
Do you really think firefist is that good? ANYTHING can happen in the prelims. Its the most unpredictable part of the whole starleagues.
Firefist actually is pretty good, in my opinion. Besides, FBH's recent form has been a lot worse than Iris's. You can't really compare the two situations, right? I mean, obviously there could be an upset. That's why they play the games.
Anything could happen... but that doesn't mean it usually does.
On September 30 2009 12:36 Zozma wrote: Looks like Iris is in good shape.
Too early to tell. FBH was doing well till final of his group.
True, but when Tempest is the biggest threat left, I can't really be worried.
Do you really think firefist is that good? ANYTHING can happen in the prelims. Its the most unpredictable part of the whole starleagues.
Firefist actually is pretty good, in my opinion. Besides, FBH's recent form has been a lot worse than Iris's. You can't really compare the two situations, right? I mean, obviously there could be an upset. That's why they play the games.
Anything could happen... but that doesn't mean it usually does.
Actually it happens quite often. Just look at mst results. How many players that looked like they were going out actually made it out?
On September 30 2009 12:36 Zozma wrote: Looks like Iris is in good shape.
Too early to tell. FBH was doing well till final of his group.
True, but when Tempest is the biggest threat left, I can't really be worried.
Do you really think firefist is that good? ANYTHING can happen in the prelims. Its the most unpredictable part of the whole starleagues.
Firefist actually is pretty good, in my opinion. Besides, FBH's recent form has been a lot worse than Iris's. You can't really compare the two situations, right? I mean, obviously there could be an upset. That's why they play the games.
Anything could happen... but that doesn't mean it usually does.
Actually it happens quite often. Just look at mst results. How many players that looked like they were going out actually made it out?
It really depends on your definition of "looked like they were going to", I think.
On September 30 2009 12:36 Zozma wrote: Looks like Iris is in good shape.
Too early to tell. FBH was doing well till final of his group.
True, but when Tempest is the biggest threat left, I can't really be worried.
Do you really think firefist is that good? ANYTHING can happen in the prelims. Its the most unpredictable part of the whole starleagues.
Firefist actually is pretty good, in my opinion. Besides, FBH's recent form has been a lot worse than Iris's. You can't really compare the two situations, right? I mean, obviously there could be an upset. That's why they play the games.
Anything could happen... but that doesn't mean it usually does.
Actually it happens quite often. Just look at mst results. How many players that looked like they were going out actually made it out?
It really depends on your definition of "looked like they were going to", I think.
"looked like they were going to" as in favorites of taking the group, which iris is.
On September 30 2009 12:57 KizZBG wrote: Baaaad day for an eSTRO fan. Gonna go to bed soon -_- it's 5am lol
Don't worry, khan failed in mst and they failed morning of osl prelim
On September 30 2009 12:36 Zozma wrote: Looks like Iris is in good shape.
Too early to tell. FBH was doing well till final of his group.
True, but when Tempest is the biggest threat left, I can't really be worried.
Do you really think firefist is that good? ANYTHING can happen in the prelims. Its the most unpredictable part of the whole starleagues.
Firefist actually is pretty good, in my opinion. Besides, FBH's recent form has been a lot worse than Iris's. You can't really compare the two situations, right? I mean, obviously there could be an upset. That's why they play the games.
Anything could happen... but that doesn't mean it usually does.
Actually it happens quite often. Just look at mst results. How many players that looked like they were going out actually made it out?
It really depends on your definition of "looked like they were going to", I think.
"looked like they were going to" as in favorites of taking the group, which iris is.
10/19 cases. Keke was favorite in his group, but he didn't show up.
Pusan made it to the finals of his offline groups last year but lost to a zerg both times If I recall. but SEA WTF??? Even jaehoon converted on 1 of 2 finals matches. Ugh I wouldnt be suprirsed if Hogil all ind or something lame, but geez sea, really...
On September 30 2009 07:07 Athos wrote: Also, I'm confused as to what happened between GoRush and DaezanG. Can anybody clarify?
ya i dont get it, he said he lost and thought he should leave? he went thru to Ro4 and then beat GoRush, why's he feel bad?
He didn't want to play Devil so he thought he wasn't good enough so he wanted to leave. But Devil W.O before Daezang, and Daezang couldn't leave on Gorush, so he stayed.
??? so he was scared of devil but not scared of gorush? how's that plausible?
Sorry about not clarifying that.
Devil beat Daezang 2-1 and GoRush 2-0 originally and got to the finals, but he played in the wrong map order (Desti -> HBR -> Byzantium instead of Desti -> Byzantium -> HBR [I think]) The CJ coach realized this, and told the KeSPA referee, willing to have Devil play over from the Ro8 against Daezang. The KeSPA referee said that they had to replay all the matches from the beginning, but since the first map, Destination, was played correctly, Daezang>Devil on Desti stays and Devil would have to play from 0-1 on Byzantium. CJ Coach was very angry saying he already won the match, he would understand a rematch from the start, but starting with 1 loss is a huge disadvantage, especially since he originally won.
CJ Coach and Devil decided to forfeit than deal with this nonsense with KeSPA, and Daezang was told to play against GoRush for the Ro4 match. Daezang said that he wanted to forfeit, but Devil had already left, so he played against GoRush.
SPREAD THE KESPA HATE!!
This was in the MSL prelims. You'll confuse people by posting it here. : D
Yeah, if you wanted to you could have just linked to that post
On September 30 2009 12:36 Zozma wrote: Looks like Iris is in good shape.
Too early to tell. FBH was doing well till final of his group.
True, but when Tempest is the biggest threat left, I can't really be worried.
Do you really think firefist is that good? ANYTHING can happen in the prelims. Its the most unpredictable part of the whole starleagues.
Firefist actually is pretty good, in my opinion. Besides, FBH's recent form has been a lot worse than Iris's. You can't really compare the two situations, right? I mean, obviously there could be an upset. That's why they play the games.
Anything could happen... but that doesn't mean it usually does.
Actually it happens quite often. Just look at mst results. How many players that looked like they were going out actually made it out?
It really depends on your definition of "looked like they were going to", I think.
"looked like they were going to" as in favorites of taking the group, which iris is.
10/19 cases. Keke was favorite in his group, but he didn't show up.
On September 30 2009 13:05 mog87 wrote: Pusan made it to the finals of his offline groups last year but lost to a zerg both times If I recall. but SEA WTF??? Even jaehoon converted on 1 of 2 finals matches. Ugh I wouldnt be suprirsed if Hogil all ind or something lame, but geez sea, really...
On September 30 2009 12:36 Zozma wrote: Looks like Iris is in good shape.
Too early to tell. FBH was doing well till final of his group.
True, but when Tempest is the biggest threat left, I can't really be worried.
Do you really think firefist is that good? ANYTHING can happen in the prelims. Its the most unpredictable part of the whole starleagues.
Firefist actually is pretty good, in my opinion. Besides, FBH's recent form has been a lot worse than Iris's. You can't really compare the two situations, right? I mean, obviously there could be an upset. That's why they play the games.
Anything could happen... but that doesn't mean it usually does.
Actually it happens quite often. Just look at mst results. How many players that looked like they were going out actually made it out?
It really depends on your definition of "looked like they were going to", I think.
"looked like they were going to" as in favorites of taking the group, which iris is.
10/19 cases. Keke was favorite in his group, but he didn't show up.
Thats above 50%. Thats high lol.
Hmm. It seems to be true that upsets are likely during the offline qualifiers, but it's called an upset because it's not what you would expect, right? I still think Iris will take it comfortably.
On September 30 2009 12:38 MuffinDude wrote: [quote]
Too early to tell. FBH was doing well till final of his group.
True, but when Tempest is the biggest threat left, I can't really be worried.
Do you really think firefist is that good? ANYTHING can happen in the prelims. Its the most unpredictable part of the whole starleagues.
Firefist actually is pretty good, in my opinion. Besides, FBH's recent form has been a lot worse than Iris's. You can't really compare the two situations, right? I mean, obviously there could be an upset. That's why they play the games.
Anything could happen... but that doesn't mean it usually does.
Actually it happens quite often. Just look at mst results. How many players that looked like they were going out actually made it out?
It really depends on your definition of "looked like they were going to", I think.
"looked like they were going to" as in favorites of taking the group, which iris is.
10/19 cases. Keke was favorite in his group, but he didn't show up.
Thats above 50%. Thats high lol.
Hmm. It seems to be true that upsets are likely during the offline qualifiers, but it's called an upset because it's not what you would expect, right? I still think Iris will take it comfortably.
Hes down 0 - 1 rite now. That makes me a bit nervous like fbh made me nervous when he was down 0 - 1 against maestro.
On September 30 2009 12:39 Zozma wrote: [quote]True, but when Tempest is the biggest threat left, I can't really be worried.
Do you really think firefist is that good? ANYTHING can happen in the prelims. Its the most unpredictable part of the whole starleagues.
Firefist actually is pretty good, in my opinion. Besides, FBH's recent form has been a lot worse than Iris's. You can't really compare the two situations, right? I mean, obviously there could be an upset. That's why they play the games.
Anything could happen... but that doesn't mean it usually does.
Actually it happens quite often. Just look at mst results. How many players that looked like they were going out actually made it out?
It really depends on your definition of "looked like they were going to", I think.
"looked like they were going to" as in favorites of taking the group, which iris is.
10/19 cases. Keke was favorite in his group, but he didn't show up.
Thats above 50%. Thats high lol.
Hmm. It seems to be true that upsets are likely during the offline qualifiers, but it's called an upset because it's not what you would expect, right? I still think Iris will take it comfortably.
Hes down 0 - 1 rite now. That makes me a bit nervous like fbh made me nervous when he was down 0 - 1 against maestro.
On September 30 2009 13:55 Avidkeystamper wrote: Major played pretty pathetically during the pre-season. I really didn't seen this one coming even as an upset.
On September 30 2009 14:03 p4NDemik wrote: How is savior always sick during these prelims? Seriously every one I see him play in he has to wear a mask.
hey we are doing some english commentary for these games with some pretty good commentators so feel free to listen in. http://www.livestream.com/rangirlsc
One of the players above will move on to the next round. Wow.
ggaemo is OZ's 2nd best zerg, I think. He'll probably advance.
Saying that ggaemo is "OZ's second best zerg" unfortunately has a lot less meaning then saying something like; "Lou Gehrig was the second best players on the 1927 Yankees" (Babe Ruth).
Jesus, is the JTV stream completely freezing (video only) whenver anything interesting happens for anyone else? I still get the sound so the stream obviously isn't dead or anything but the video just plain doesn't move until every bit of action is done.
It's pretty and all, but I'd prefer a pixelated mess if it wouldn't freeze on me.
One of the players above will move on to the next round. Wow.
ggaemo is OZ's 2nd best zerg, I think. He'll probably advance.
Saying that ggaemo is "OZ's second best zerg" unfortunately has a lot less meaning then saying something like; "Lou Gehrig was the second best players on the 1927 Yankees" (Babe Ruth).
One of the players above will move on to the next round. Wow.
ggaemo is OZ's 2nd best zerg, I think. He'll probably advance.
Saying that ggaemo is "OZ's second best zerg" unfortunately has a lot less caché then saying something like; "Lou Gehrig was the second best players on the 1927 Yankees" (Babe Ruth).
Oz's depth is terrible.
Nah, Killer is Oz's 2nd best zerg. I prefer not to think about the other zergs. Though neel may be 3rd, it's hard to tell.
I know =[ , u and ur movies and skyhighs. But Much and Savior >=]
On September 30 2009 14:46 TwoToneTerran wrote: Jesus, is the JTV stream completely freezing (video only) whenver anything interesting happens for anyone else? I still get the sound so the stream obviously isn't dead or anything but the video just plain doesn't move until every bit of action is done.
It's pretty and all, but I'd prefer a pixelated mess if it wouldn't freeze on me.
why don't you register for the official ogn stream? i'm sure it's lower bitrate
On September 30 2009 14:46 TwoToneTerran wrote: Jesus, is the JTV stream completely freezing (video only) whenver anything interesting happens for anyone else? I still get the sound so the stream obviously isn't dead or anything but the video just plain doesn't move until every bit of action is done.
It's pretty and all, but I'd prefer a pixelated mess if it wouldn't freeze on me.
You need 1.5mbps internet to watch this stream smoothly. If your internet is not fast enough, you'll have problems watching this stream.
On September 30 2009 14:46 TwoToneTerran wrote: Jesus, is the JTV stream completely freezing (video only) whenver anything interesting happens for anyone else? I still get the sound so the stream obviously isn't dead or anything but the video just plain doesn't move until every bit of action is done.
It's pretty and all, but I'd prefer a pixelated mess if it wouldn't freeze on me.
why don't you register for the official ogn stream? i'm sure it's lower bitrate
I'm pretty sure this is the first time someone posted this link on TL. It's the same quality as the old L1. Compared to the OGN direct stream, the colors on this stream are not as good.
On September 30 2009 14:46 TwoToneTerran wrote: Jesus, is the JTV stream completely freezing (video only) whenver anything interesting happens for anyone else? I still get the sound so the stream obviously isn't dead or anything but the video just plain doesn't move until every bit of action is done.
It's pretty and all, but I'd prefer a pixelated mess if it wouldn't freeze on me.
You need 1.5mbps internet to watch this stream smoothly. If your internet is not fast enough, you'll have problems watching this stream.
On September 30 2009 14:54 Atrioc wrote: sAviOr 1:2 Bubble
-_-
It seems it wasn't a typo on the Fomos website. But as a Savior fan I firmly believe that it was a typo in the universal timeline, and that the Lord Almighty will update it with the correct results shortly.
On September 30 2009 14:46 TwoToneTerran wrote: Jesus, is the JTV stream completely freezing (video only) whenver anything interesting happens for anyone else? I still get the sound so the stream obviously isn't dead or anything but the video just plain doesn't move until every bit of action is done.
It's pretty and all, but I'd prefer a pixelated mess if it wouldn't freeze on me.
You need 1.5mbps internet to watch this stream smoothly. If your internet is not fast enough, you'll have problems watching this stream.
On September 30 2009 15:00 Avidkeystamper wrote: Pandemik, ur crazy. You have the profile pic for haiti already?
I know, I've been marveling at how pictures of these random newbies just pop up when I TLPD them. Amazing work. Go Rush! Go Bubble! Terran did not do well in the morning.
I think SkyHigh has some of the best TvT in town right now. He crushed Leta with ease in the ProLeague playoffs a number of times. Very confident at the moment. Nothing to be ashamed of for Boxer.
They kept trading units, and Ruby was slowly losing workers/CCs/mining time in the process. Meanwhile, Lucifer just kept macroing up every army he lost, and was never harassed or anything.
Ruby knew he was fighting a losing battle and gave it up, I guess.
I just want to thank T.O.P or whoever is streaming on justin.tv. This stream is simply the best I have ever seen. The resolution is incredible and it doesn'y lag at all. I can't wait to see Ultras tear Marines to shreds with such detail. Thanks a lot guys (and whoever provides any stream actually)
On September 30 2009 16:26 motbob wrote: I don't think there's any way ForGG is going to lose to Bogus or Nada.
Agreed.
What if I say you're not like the others? What if I say you're not just another one, look at your face, you're the pretender. What if I say I'll never surrender.
On September 30 2009 16:26 motbob wrote: I don't think there's any way ForGG is going to lose to Bogus or Nada.
Agreed.
What if I say you're not like the others? What if I say you're not just another one, look at your face, you're the pretender. What if I say I'll never surrender.
Jtv dont work for Europe, so guess the one i prefer...
Hmmm... Last time I checked, France was in Europe, and I am watching jtv right now. Anyway, it is always good to have several streams. The more the better.
pretty nice game by mr purple though, I thought casy had it for sure for a while there but this protoss had very good storms and army control... He got the carrier/goon/templar mix quite early too.
Boo Im sad for 815. Same thing happened to him yesterday: Everything going smoothly for him until after the first game of the group finals. Really sad for him...
On September 30 2009 17:34 RainmanMP wrote: Whoever made the OP sucks and hasn't updated the results in forever.
Yeah, if you're not gonna update, don't make the thread.
I third this, that is one of the worst things that someone can do it sounds like he knew he wouldnt be able to update the results so he shouldn't have made it
On September 30 2009 17:34 RainmanMP wrote: Whoever made the OP sucks and hasn't updated the results in forever.
Yeah, if you're not gonna update, don't make the thread.
I third this, that is one of the worst things that someone can do it sounds like he knew he wouldnt be able to update the results so he shouldn't have made it
On September 30 2009 17:55 motbob wrote: Who is this Purple guy? He beat Saint.
he's also in the secret [gosl] guild, where nonamers become famous! But seriously, Purple was playing quite well against Casy, it wouldn't surprise me if he advanced.
I think it's funny that everyone just assumes Violet's PvT is good.
Not saying it's definitely bad (and obviously FBH's TvP is one of the worst in the business), but Violet basically played NO PvTs during his breakout season. His PvT ELO (and peak) is 2017.
On September 30 2009 18:25 darktreb wrote: I think it's funny that everyone just assumes Violet's PvT is good.
Not saying it's definitely bad (and obviously FBH's TvP is one of the worst in the business), but Violet basically played NO PvTs during his breakout season. His PvT ELO (and peak) is 2017.
On September 30 2009 18:25 darktreb wrote: I think it's funny that everyone just assumes Violet's PvT is good.
Not saying it's definitely bad (and obviously FBH's TvP is one of the worst in the business), but Violet basically played NO PvTs during his breakout season. His PvT ELO (and peak) is 2017.
We're all just focusing on FBH's TvP. It's so bad it really doesn't matter what Protoss he plays if they're a PL starter.
On September 30 2009 18:25 darktreb wrote: I think it's funny that everyone just assumes Violet's PvT is good.
Not saying it's definitely bad (and obviously FBH's TvP is one of the worst in the business), but Violet basically played NO PvTs during his breakout season. His PvT ELO (and peak) is 2017.
to be fair, almost anything will be good enough to beat FBH. I would say Violet is a lock.
On September 30 2009 18:25 darktreb wrote: I think it's funny that everyone just assumes Violet's PvT is good.
Not saying it's definitely bad (and obviously FBH's TvP is one of the worst in the business), but Violet basically played NO PvTs during his breakout season. His PvT ELO (and peak) is 2017.
to be fair, almost anything will be good enough to beat FBH. I would say Violet is a lock.
On September 30 2009 18:25 darktreb wrote: I think it's funny that everyone just assumes Violet's PvT is good.
Not saying it's definitely bad (and obviously FBH's TvP is one of the worst in the business), but Violet basically played NO PvTs during his breakout season. His PvT ELO (and peak) is 2017.
to be fair, almost anything will be good enough to beat FBH. I would say Violet is a lock.
WHAT THE FUCK is going on. Sea is out of both leagues. Free loses 0-2 to some no name. Jesus christ. The only redemption from this whole thing is the fact that Pusan is in both leagues.
On September 30 2009 18:38 Pioneer wrote: WHAT THE FUCK is going on. Sea is out of both leagues. Free loses 0-2 to some no name. Jesus christ. The only redemption from this whole thing is the fact that Pusan is in both leagues.
Offlines are pretty unforgiving...and Free never makes the OSL.
On September 30 2009 18:48 Holgerius wrote: So Ret is good enough to beat players who qualify for Starleagues? Get your ass to Korea, Ret! :D
Lol for all we know, Barracks could have been messing around since he was online/aganist a foreigner. Still, if he was trying his best, that is damn impressive by Ret. He really should go over there.
oh lol, BeSt & Kal both got served by nonames? nice to see Pusan make both of the preliminaries ;p free also got destroyed by some guy named Reality whom actually made it all the way through :o
Good to see July, Gorush, Nada, Boxer, Savior, Yellow, Iris, Casy, Xellos and Midas eliminated nice and early. With so many of my all time favourites having retired, I really enjoy seeing those remaining getting slaughtered.
One hits a point where even your "newer newer semi-favourites who you picked because you needed to find somebody to cheer for" are past it. Not even Free, Upmagic and the like can get past the "Tossgirl hurdle" anymore.
On September 30 2009 19:58 Alethios wrote: Good to see July, Gorush, Nada, Boxer, Savior, Yellow, Iris, Casy, Xellos and Midas eliminated nice and early. With so many of my all time favourites having retired, I really enjoy seeing those remaining getting slaughtered.
One hits a point where even your "newer newer semi-favourites who you picked because you needed to find somebody to cheer for" are past it. Not even Free, Upmagic and the like can get past the "Tossgirl hurdle" anymore.
On September 30 2009 19:58 Alethios wrote: Good to see July, Gorush, Nada, Boxer, Savior, Yellow, Iris, Casy, Xellos and Midas eliminated nice and early. With so many of my all time favourites having retired, I really enjoy seeing those remaining getting slaughtered.
One hits a point where even your "newer newer semi-favourites who you picked because you needed to find somebody to cheer for" are past it. Not even Free, Upmagic and the like can get past the "Tossgirl hurdle" anymore.
*sigh*
Whats wrong with you. I should have really insult you by now but I won't because it will get me banned no matter how many posts I have. Still ROFL! -_- God~
Id rather have Mind in, and Id drop horang2 to the bottom because on these maps you will need to be able to beat a good zerg which I dont think he can.
are you all being idiots on purpose or something? pusan is in no shape a royal roader, he top 4'd like 50 times in 2005. and guemchi qualified last season but dropped out in the ro36.
On September 30 2009 20:38 GTR wrote: are you all being idiots on purpose or something? pusan is in no shape a royal roader, he top 4'd like 50 times in 2005. and guemchi qualified last season but dropped out in the ro36.
On September 30 2009 20:38 GTR wrote: are you all being idiots on purpose or something? pusan is in no shape a royal roader, he top 4'd like 50 times in 2005. and guemchi qualified last season but dropped out in the ro36.
Hey GTR, thanks for making me look up Really to see if you were wrong about him being a Royal Roader and seeing that he lost to MuJuK in the Batoo OSL. THANKS A BUNCH PAL.
and what, Reality? huh? I smell bad puns coming up. fbh lucked out because MVP beat Violet... yCh[z-zOne] looks like he did pretty well. lol@ggaemo qualifying but not HiyA and at Kal losing haha what?? good to see an ACE player (RuBy) in though. and yay Jaehoon. also this maestro guy managed to beat Much....
what happened to Iris? letting cuteangel qualify!?
eSTRO Already Qualified: None Qualified from Prelims: Really MSL
Already Qualified from Last MSL: Jaedong (Into MSL) Given a spot due to Team/Kespa Rank: BackHo Qualified from Prelims: None
Already Qualified from Last MSL: UpMaGiC (Into Survivor) Given a spot due to Team/Kespa Rank: hyvaa Qualified from Prelims: None
no way.... i swore i saw some more estro blood get in. god thats very depressing anyways for both teams. (take jaedong out and its like both the teams are even on qualifications)
Little bunch of hopes of Protosses who have a 1% chance of winning this OSL (most of them are almost impossible). I will dance if they will win: Movie Pusan Horang2 JangBi And, of course, main hopes: Bisu[Shield] (my pick) and Stork[gm] (he can reach finals but if there will be Bisu, Flash or Zerg he will lose lol)
Three of main terrans: By.Flash (ultimate weapon buy also can lose ultimately) fantasy (he has many chances until he fight against Jaedong)
Leta (he is between the guys above and beyond, i dont trust in his power )
Large cloud of zergs who have large chance of winning this OSL (and of course it will be ZvZ final or even maybe all Z semifinals lol): Jaedong Calm EffOrt Luxury YellOw[ArnC] ZerO (he will lose if he will play ZvZ) Kwanro type-b by.hero (this guy can kill some protoss ) Hyuk
eSTRO Already Qualified: None Qualified from Prelims: Really MSL
Already Qualified from Last MSL: Jaedong (Into MSL) Given a spot due to Team/Kespa Rank: BackHo Qualified from Prelims: None
Already Qualified from Last MSL: UpMaGiC (Into Survivor) Given a spot due to Team/Kespa Rank: hyvaa Qualified from Prelims: None
no way.... i swore i saw some more estro blood get in. god thats very depressing anyways for both teams. (take jaedong out and its like both the teams are even on qualifications)
On September 30 2009 22:11 canucks12 wrote: Wemade: Pure, Mind, Shine, RorO
Lets see some wins!
If only Nada could have joined them.
Same! So saddened that July and NaDa didnt qualify
Me too and also Savior and Iris didn't qualify .... At least i'm happy that Mind made it . He is always a pleasure to watch and his games and build orders are very smart .
On September 30 2009 23:19 TwoToneTerran wrote: Ouch, KT got destroyed in this prelim. A lot of them made it pretty far but got cut off at the knees.
I must be missing something, didn't ForGG and Lux both qualify?
Yes, but KT's bright future is in the up and coming talent like Violet and Hoejja (and to a lesser extent Tempest and Firefist). ForGG and Lux doing well is great to see but I'd prefer a stronger showing for the on paper best team around.
I'm looking forward to seeing herO[jOin] support the FOX lineup in the future.. In his first prelim he took down Sea, and in these prelims he beat Shuttle, XellOs, and IrOn, only to lose in the finals of both to a zerg (Hyuk and ggaemo T_T) If he works on his ZvZ he could show some promise!
On October 01 2009 01:38 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Uh.. Savior said "Look forward to my starleague win." How can you win when you don't even qualify?!?!?!? DAMMIT!
On October 01 2009 01:38 Liquid_Turbo wrote: Uh.. Savior said "Look forward to my starleague win." How can you win when you don't even qualify?!?!?!? DAMMIT!
On October 01 2009 01:44 RainmanMP wrote: Just from prelims I'm pretty sure this OSL will be way better than the last in terms of players and game quality. Hopefully Ro32 lineups are out soon.
On October 01 2009 01:27 tree.hugger wrote: Real pity that FBH made it in.
You are officially my least favourite TL member.
Amen to that
Srsly tough why do you dislike FBH?
sure the guy is pretty crap nowadays in everything but TvT(and even there hes inconsistent)
But hes the biggest pimp broodwar has seen since... since... hmm this is hard.
Looks dumb, plays badly atm, most likely the reason to Savior's slump, and is so useless against Protoss that him getting in makes no difference because he'll drop like a fly against any mediocre Protoss player.
On October 01 2009 01:27 tree.hugger wrote: Real pity that FBH made it in.
You are officially my least favourite TL member.
Amen to that
Srsly tough why do you dislike FBH?
sure the guy is pretty crap nowadays in everything but TvT(and even there hes inconsistent)
But hes the biggest pimp broodwar has seen since... since... hmm this is hard.
Looks dumb, plays badly atm, most likely the reason to Savior's slump, and is so useless against Protoss that him getting in makes no difference because he'll drop like a fly against any mediocre Protoss player.
Plays badly il give you but looks dumb wtf?
Hell hes one of the smexiest people in all of broodwar.
Sure hes no mantoss but those hips man... those hips.
And it wasnt like he alone sent savior into his slump nor was the biggest reason.
Sure he was the nail in the coffin but bisu was by far the main reason for saviors slump.
Also he was semi decent against protoss last year( 50% win ratio i think) not that it really matter now but before his slump he was improving atleast.
On October 01 2009 01:27 tree.hugger wrote: Real pity that FBH made it in.
You are officially my least favourite TL member.
Amen to that
Srsly tough why do you dislike FBH?
sure the guy is pretty crap nowadays in everything but TvT(and even there hes inconsistent)
But hes the biggest pimp broodwar has seen since... since... hmm this is hard.
Looks dumb, plays badly atm, most likely the reason to Savior's slump, and is so useless against Protoss that him getting in makes no difference because he'll drop like a fly against any mediocre Protoss player.
FBH used to have the sexiest TvZ ever (LITERALLY SOME OF THE MOST ENTERTAINING TVZ EVER). Just because he's slumping doesnt mean that no one should like him any more. Right savior fans?
On October 01 2009 01:27 tree.hugger wrote: Real pity that FBH made it in.
You are officially my least favourite TL member.
Amen to that
Srsly tough why do you dislike FBH?
sure the guy is pretty crap nowadays in everything but TvT(and even there hes inconsistent)
But hes the biggest pimp broodwar has seen since... since... hmm this is hard.
Looks dumb, plays badly atm, most likely the reason to Savior's slump, and is so useless against Protoss that him getting in makes no difference because he'll drop like a fly against any mediocre Protoss player.
Disliking him because of looks is dumb (he's hot, though). He has been slumping, yes, but I have hope of him returning to form.
FBH is entertaining as hell both in game and as a person. His TvZ was seriously S-class like a year ago. I remember the game where he smashed Jaedong to pieces with Battlecruisers. Good times. His TvP is retarded, but sometimes his class shines through even there, like that MSL where he was placed in a group with only Protosses (one of them Bisu) and beat them all. I don't see how it's possible to not like him.
You can't just say "i can't see a reason not to like him".. the way he acts, he has to have some people dislike him... he performs ceremonies and does over the top (for progamers) but good interviews and does wacky late game ceremony strats - great - not everyone has to like the same thing. That would be boring.
I personally do like him though, since he brings a sense of fun to progaming :D.
On October 01 2009 03:15 anch wrote: (P)BeSt 1-2 (T)n.Die_DDONG BeSt still gets knock out in prelim. wtf. Pusan 3 x 2-0 his group. like really scrub opponents.
On October 01 2009 03:15 anch wrote: (P)BeSt 1-2 (T)n.Die_DDONG BeSt still gets knock out in prelim. wtf. Pusan 3 x 2-0 his group. like really scrub opponents.
Best hasn't been the same since July.
He did really well in the first two rounds of proleague. Winners league killed him though.
On October 01 2009 03:16 Camlito wrote: You can't just say "i can't see a reason not to like him".. the way he acts, he has to have some people dislike him... he performs ceremonies and does over the top (for progamers) but good interviews and does wacky late game ceremony strats - great - not everyone has to like the same thing. That would be boring.
I personally do like him though, since he brings a sense of fun to progaming :D.
You don't have to like him, but I really don't get how people can hate him. It's not like he does his ceremonies with any malice. He's just got a sense of humour; he smiled when Jaedong put up 5 BM ceremonial hatcheries in his natural. The Savior fanbois who whine and moan about FBH are people who take things way too seriously.
On October 01 2009 03:16 Camlito wrote: You can't just say "i can't see a reason not to like him".. the way he acts, he has to have some people dislike him... he performs ceremonies and does over the top (for progamers) but good interviews and does wacky late game ceremony strats - great - not everyone has to like the same thing. That would be boring.
I personally do like him though, since he brings a sense of fun to progaming :D.
You don't have to like him, but I really don't get how people can hate him. It's not like he does his ceremonies with any malice. He's just got a sense of humour; he smiled when Jaedong put up 5 BM ceremonial hatcheries in his natural. The Savior fanbois who whine and moan about FBH are people who take things way too seriously.
Yes, savior fanboys who whine, nothing like the great and manly Firebathero who'd never whine about something they don't like happening.
On October 01 2009 01:27 tree.hugger wrote: Real pity that FBH made it in.
You are officially my least favourite TL member.
Amen to that
Srsly tough why do you dislike FBH?
sure the guy is pretty crap nowadays in everything but TvT(and even there hes inconsistent)
But hes the biggest pimp broodwar has seen since... since... hmm this is hard.
Looks dumb, plays badly atm, most likely the reason to Savior's slump, and is so useless against Protoss that him getting in makes no difference because he'll drop like a fly against any mediocre Protoss player.
Disliking him because of looks is dumb (he's hot, though). He has been slumping, yes, but I have hope of him returning to form.
FBH is entertaining as hell both in game and as a person. His TvZ was seriously S-class like a year ago. I remember the game where he smashed Jaedong to pieces with Battlecruisers. Good times. His TvP is retarded, but sometimes his class shines through even there, like that MSL where he was placed in a group with only Protosses (one of them Bisu) and beat them all. I don't see how it's possible to not like him.
Go FBH!
I just listed some reasons to dislike him, I personally don't dislike him.
Ahh so many many good players dropped out, still quite a few new names go through, mediocre players all the way :|
Lomo & HiyA delivered once again, out of OSL out of MSL, hopefully out of PL lineup. seriously only reason i wear this Oz tag is because i like JD so much, should search for some other team with more players that i like while still remaining a JD fan ;p (oh well i like BackHo & Killer a bit too)
On October 01 2009 03:15 anch wrote: (P)BeSt 1-2 (T)n.Die_DDONG BeSt still gets knock out in prelim. wtf. Pusan 3 x 2-0 his group. like really scrub opponents.
On October 01 2009 03:15 anch wrote: (P)BeSt 1-2 (T)n.Die_DDONG BeSt still gets knock out in prelim. wtf. Pusan 3 x 2-0 his group. like really scrub opponents.
On October 01 2009 15:04 rotinegg wrote: I HATE luxury. Cocky son of a b*tch with no skills to back up his words. how dare you shit on tybe-b go.go and your own brother yellow.
Well he A) has a title to back up his words, and B) I think you're mistaking his interview. He was on Hite for quite awhile before KT so I'm sure he knows everyone on Hite and being amazed that they did so well is not such a foreign concept.
On October 01 2009 15:04 rotinegg wrote: I HATE luxury. Cocky son of a b*tch with no skills to back up his words. how dare you shit on tybe-b go.go and your own brother yellow.
Well he A) has a title to back up his words, and B) I think you're mistaking his interview. He was on Hite for quite awhile before KT so I'm sure he knows everyone on Hite and being amazed that they did so well is not such a foreign concept.
his title is the biggest fluke. In his interview he said "어처구니 없었다", which translates into something like "...I was at a loss of words [when I came to realize that one of the four Hite players would make it to the finals]." I'm sorry I can't come up with a better translation as I suck at English but he was clearly taking a shot at the 4 Hite players, implying that he is much better than them. i don't like cocky players who suck like perfectman and luxury
On October 01 2009 16:53 Fontong wrote: LOL savior out of OSL by a guy name bubble. damn savior sucks these days, which is pretty awesome because fanboys will be crying.
And yay forgg is in the osl ro36. I believe, forgg fighting!!!
he's been out of the OSL 4 seasons in a row, we are used to it . Don't try and be a smart ass.
On October 01 2009 16:05 rotinegg wrote: his title is the biggest fluke. In his interview he said "어처구니 없었다", which translates into something like "...I was at a loss of words [when I came to realize that one of the four Hite players would make it to the finals]." I'm sorry I can't come up with a better translation as I suck at English but he was clearly taking a shot at the 4 Hite players, implying that he is much better than them. i don't like cocky players who suck like perfectman and luxury
In retrospect it looks like a fluke; at the time he won the title, Luxury played much better than usual in Winners League, looked like a god of Zerg for most of the MSL, and made a decent run at the OSL as well.
It's not as though everybody and his brother was auto-voting go.go and type-b into that OSL quarters, either. Yarnc in a low-Protoss OSL? Fine (although also a fluke). Leta? He's supposed to be (near?) S-class, sure. The other two? Not so much.
Just a disclaimer, many of the results in the OP are a little off. Mostly the WLW/LWW parts, but some 2-0's were 2-1's and vice versa. What is in TLPD are the official results.
On October 01 2009 16:05 rotinegg wrote: his title is the biggest fluke. In his interview he said "어처구니 없었다", which translates into something like "...I was at a loss of words [when I came to realize that one of the four Hite players would make it to the finals]." I'm sorry I can't come up with a better translation as I suck at English but he was clearly taking a shot at the 4 Hite players, implying that he is much better than them. i don't like cocky players who suck like perfectman and luxury
In retrospect it looks like a fluke; at the time he won the title, Luxury played much better than usual in Winners League, looked like a god of Zerg for most of the MSL, and made a decent run at the OSL as well.
It's not as though everybody and his brother was auto-voting go.go and type-b into that OSL quarters, either. Yarnc in a low-Protoss OSL? Fine (although also a fluke). Leta? He's supposed to be (near?) S-class, sure. The other two? Not so much.
But then, I actually like Luxury.
I'm telling people that luxury was a forgg. They usually suck but they played awesome for the short time, giving them the gold.
Still, can't forgive him for taking away jangbi's gold.
I hate the name Barracks... I mean... are these people thinking about the future? If they ever become really popular.. they're gonna want an epic name... not a building... frick
Both HoGiL and Horang2 are in, heck yeah. though Justin and herb are out so not every hite player made it, but those two were the most important. It'll be a Nice hite packed OSL with these two plus go.go, YellOw[ArnC], type-b and Leta. Nice to see som upsets too, like, Barracks? Reality? Cool Sucks to see BeSt out though, he's one of my fav tosses.
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.... At least i'm happy that Mind made it . He is always a pleasure to watch and his games and build orders are very smart .
