Awesome guide. This is a barrier I've had at C- and why I haven't been playing. I make almost entirely units at the start of midgame and my production/hatchery count suffers because of it. I'm definitely going to look analyze my play differently from now on and play a more defensive ZvP.

sixghost

United States2096 Posts

February 04 2009 17:21 GMT

#42

God it's like you've been watching my iccup replays. It just seems like such a slippery slope in zvp. If I try to make a ton of drones early on, I get rolled by the first zealot archon push, if I make hydras earlier I'm fine in the mid game but can never stop making hydras and eventually lose map control and the P army wears me down.

FortuneSyn

1826 Posts

May 17 2009 01:43 GMT

#43

I'm going to post in this "old thread" for two reasons:

1) To thank you deeply for this guide. Your logic is extremely easy for me to understand, and yet it talks about concepts that are the reason I cannot come higher up in the ranks. Zerg mid-game economy is something i struggle so hard with.

2) To bring more attention to this guide. I have seen some help threads that could use this thread as guidance. It's pretty awesome, thats all.

w3jjjj

United States760 Posts

May 17 2009 02:46 GMT

#44

This is old stuff, the section about zvp timings was before the 4 gate zeal/archon attack was invented, don't follow that section anymore. Other things look fine.

drinking

Philippines281 Posts

May 17 2009 03:52 GMT

#45

thanks for this, smi.lols :D

Myst-

United States96 Posts

May 17 2009 15:24 GMT

#46

Yeah, thanks for this. I started playing Zerg 2 weeks ago after a 3 year break(I played Protoss since release, so it was a major change). I was struggling after getting my 4th down and not making enough drones to keep up my macro against other players. While I must improve other things like mechanics, scouting, denying 3rd's, this has help quite a bit!

arb

Noobville17921 Posts

May 22 2009 00:24 GMT

#47

going to bump this for those who havent read and to add

this has helped my zerg so fucking much against protoss