[q] Cost of worker loss compared to... - Page 3

Shauni

4077 Posts

November 03 2008 15:11 GMT

#41

This is all very interesting, but in an actual game you also have to measure countering damage due to the harassing player sacrificing units for superior economy, not just the loss of single units.

I know it might be obvious for some, I'm just saying...

or mathematically formulated: calculate the time to replace the lost units from the economy advantage gained

Chill

Calgary25997 Posts

November 03 2008 15:21 GMT

#42

On November 03 2008 23:24 lololol wrote:

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This is for wc3, it would have quite different numbers in bw, because income progression isn't linear and costs are different, e.t.c.

OMFG I'm so dumb.

He did it for BW too first. I never knew he did it for WC3 so when I saw "The true cost of Peons" I just assumed it was StarCraft without reading it. Goddamn.

Elvin_vn

Vietnam2038 Posts

November 03 2008 16:36 GMT

#43

you also have to take into account the mental/psychology value in the case of losing scv to probe hit/run micro

Guilty

Canada812 Posts

November 03 2008 17:40 GMT

#44

the anwser is 23.... OMG!! He Wrote The BOOK!!!

[Edit] Yeah i just saw that lil while go..

KOFgokuon

United States14910 Posts

November 03 2008 17:55 GMT

#45

you also have to take into account that when the zealot is harassing you do shift your probes around to other mineral patches to make sure that the probe doesn't die, you spend a few seconds attacking the zealot with other probes (3? 4? depends) which takes up mining time, honestly the only way you can figure it out is just to do experiments: practice against it and see how many minerals you have, then do a few experiments to see how many minerals you have if you aren't harassed

that's the only way to do it

HooHa!

United States688 Posts

November 03 2008 18:08 GMT

#46

Sometimes the few seconds of swarming a zealot doesn't even hardly effect mining. probably at most a good 40 or so minerals.

Plus ramps and high grounds and natural defenses give you a little more advantages and hindrances that they would have to deal with if they wanted to end the game. Same would apply for them if they utilized it against you. Examples like neutral buildings, wallins, sim city's, mining an area that arbiter would recall. Manner pylon to increase efficiency of mining, or decrease theirs.. Rush distances. We all know this in the back of our minds, but it can heal a broken economy. little by little.

I always feel pretty lame if I get caught in a worker swarm with a zealot. cause it isn't too hard to dodge the probes or whatever, and like the potential is lost from the zealot.

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